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Re: lightning deaths [Re: Mike L] #1309361 05/10/07 05:11 PM
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I've never had a great enough appreciation for lightning! I guess I just figure, oh I'll be alright. I know that's foolish! Thanks for this reminder to head for shelter a little sooner next time!



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Re: lightning deaths [Re: gregorkhan] #1309363 05/10/07 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: gregorkhan
One poster said that a 14 second delay from lightning to thunder indicates a strike 1 mile away. Given that sound travels through air at about 1000 feet per second, the actual distance is about 1 mile per 5 second delay.



Yep...here's the math...

Sound travels at 340.29 meters/second

Thats 1116.15 feet/second

Theres 5280 feet/mile

5280/1116.15 = 4.73 seconds

If you want to take into consideration the speed of light (you seeing the lighting) then it would technically be less than 4.73 seconds...but very, very little differece!


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: Brooksido] #1310045 05/10/07 08:45 PM
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Lightning can do some pretty wierd stuff. We had a big old native pecan hit several years ago. It blew the bark off that tree smooth as a new fence post. What was amazing, the bark was laid out on the ground in circles around that tree just like the circles on a bulls-eye target...couldn't have done it any better by hand. Course that tree was seriously dead.

Re: lightning deaths [Re: SlickFish] #1310144 05/10/07 09:17 PM
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Had a big oak in the back yard. Got hit my light and through bark to the neighbors yard and it had burn marks on it. Be Smart and abort the fishing.


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: Jigfish] #1311886 05/11/07 06:01 PM
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Five seconds is a mile away. Sound travels at 1100 ft/second, and there are 5280 feet in a mile -- ergo, about 5 seconds.

to estimate counting seconds, count: one-mississippi, two mississippi, etc.
-- or one-thousand, two-thousand, etc. to count approximate number of feet. Using "mississippi" seems to stretch it out enough, while if you say "thousand", you can count too fast.

You can practice while watching your watch or a clock to figure out how fast to count. I use "thousand" and just think back on disco days -- standard disco beat was 120 beats per second, so I count one-thousand (two beats), two-thousand, two more beats, etc, while I think "disco beat" in my head.


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: JazzHarmonicat] #1312052 05/11/07 07:26 PM
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1133.994 ft/sec to be exact, at 75 F. there can be variablies temp and humidity, but I think that 5/mile is a good senerio, error on the side of caution, is the best.

back in my vj/dj days it for me I would do a one - one thousand, two - one thousand... but tha was just me smile

I see lightneing or thunder I am off the lake, end of story


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: waytooslow] #1312400 05/11/07 10:15 PM
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Think about this: If you're sitting on a seat that is all plastic (though on a metal pedestal) and the boat is fiberglass, you think maybe you're safe. But if your foot is on the TM (trolling motor) pedal, and there's a cable running from the pedal to the TM, and the TM is metal and is down in the water -- man! A rubber sneaker and a little plastic or rubber on the pedal is about all you've got to stop lightning. Ain' gonna do it. Not a good scenario.
I'm going out to Fork tomorrow, God willin' and the Creeks don't rise, and I might have to try out my own advice, heading for shore, away from trees, and scrunching down in the boat (with rain suit on of course, to keep dry, not that that would have any effect on lightning).


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: JazzHarmonicat] #1312405 05/11/07 10:17 PM
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Somebody tole me that that saying "... and the Creeks don't rise" refers to a bit of American history that is not taught in public schools, which is why I capitalized "Creeks". Look it up on the internet. Pretty interesting story. I think it's where Andy Jackson got his original fighting fame, unless I misremembered.


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: JazzHarmonicat] #1312531 05/11/07 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: JazzHarmonicat
Think about this: If you're sitting on a seat that is all plastic (though on a metal pedestal) and the boat is fiberglass, you think maybe you're safe. But if your foot is on the TM (trolling motor) pedal, and there's a cable running from the pedal to the TM, and the TM is metal and is down in the water -- man! A rubber sneaker and a little plastic or rubber on the pedal is about all you've got to stop lightning. Ain' gonna do it. Not a good scenario.
I'm going out to Fork tomorrow, God willin' and the Creeks don't rise, and I might have to try out my own advice, heading for shore, away from trees, and scrunching down in the boat (with rain suit on of course, to keep dry, not that that would have any effect on lightning).



Then think about this - the lightning bolt just traveled 30,000 feet from the cloud to the boat, with NO WIRES OR METAL!


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Re: lightning deaths [Re: SAK] #1312627 05/12/07 12:24 AM
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Lightning struck my H3 last night in Houston!!! On Star and the vehicle computer are giving out false readings.


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