Well they are federation guys haha

1-10, it scores a solid 0.125 and I live on the damn lake. After living here 22 years, the only thing I've learned is humility.

The silting last year didn't help, hopfully the carp will let the Zebra Mussels grow lol. Its a 2 for me and I like the lake!

Why ya hating on the Fed guys? We put on a show brotha!

0.5

It fished hard....its become another Conroe down south.....aolf and indian are all docks and metal bulkhead covered with pontoon boats jet skis and wake boats........tough to fish for sure...... most of the river guys said their spots were silted in and they couldnt get access.... alot of fish were caught way north, but size was lacking....all in all, I'd skip it if I could fish Raven, Rayburn, Nacogdoches or Naconiche

I would rate it a 2 as well.

Now if you were talking the "other" Bass or Cats then it goes way up.

Kurth is a 5 or so if you can get in there! Ever since the big 'un was caught out there it has been packed.

Naconiche is 7 or 8 if they aren't spraying for Giant Salvania. If they are it drops to a Zero in that area.

^^^This and yes I grew up fishing there and have continued to fish there off and on for 40+ years. When I was young and going every weekend it was a different lake. The Jungle was 'The Jungle' and only guys who knew how to navigate it ventured in. Small islands off the river channel north of 190 that used to exist are no longer there or have been reconfigured by floods. If you do your homework you can catch the green ones but don't expect to hook up on every boathouse or twig that is adjacent to the change in direction of a bulkhead.

This has to be a joke lol

No I promise you Jake. Ask Kris I'm serious as a heart attack. I have more 20lb sacks on Livingston than I do Rayburn. Grass lakes kick my teeth in. I am probably the world's worst at figuring out how to find them in grass. I live 5 minutes off the Trinity river and used to fish it 3 or 4 days a week after school and work. Muddy shallow water is just my niche.

I definitely like the style of Livingston fishing more than I do Rayburn fishing. It's the kind of stuff I like to do.

He's not saying the lake is as good as Rayburn (Because that's just crazy and everyone knows that's not true), but I get what Chance is saying for sure.

Oh no Livingston is nowhere near as good as Rayburn. Hell Livingston is not even in top 10 lakes in southeast texas. But for me I love it. That's all I'm saying. About like lake Houston. For people that don't know it, it's just a garbage dump. For us that know it it's a good fishery close to home.

Only above average fisherman would like Livingston. Anyone can catch a fish on Rayburn.



Disclaimer .... I've never fished Livingston or Rayburn

I was on that lake weekly back in the early 80's while in college. There was a time it fished real well. I guided duck hunting and bass fishing (but mostly whites). Never the giant bags of today, like Rayburn or Falcon, but 12 to 15 pounds was what it took to win. The BASS event in 89? took 36 for 3 days. In 94 it was ~ 44 for 4 if I recall. It still takes ~ 15 to win most events, but the weights fall off much quicker. I pre-fished a lot for TXTT last summer, and what blew me away is how much it has silted in. I can run White Rock from Galloway's to the river with my eyes closed. That used to be 40' deep, and now I was barely able to stay on plane through there! 38' of Dallas [censored]! And the river at the chalk bluffs was 50' deep, and now is 8. North from White Rock to Robb's Lake was 45' and is now 8'. So many of the creeks above 19 that were real good are completely cut off from the silt. Whites, Dillards, Nelson, Blacks all of them are gone. 95% of the jungle is cut off with a rim island that has developed along the river. I had big plans for a run up the river last year, but when it was all said and done we ended up on the south end. And it was a carousel of people fishing the same stuff. We ended up OK, but the lake fished real small.

I don't think there is enough local interest or money for the lake to recover. None of the local towns seem to care, Trinity, Huntsville, Livingston. And Onalaska can't muster it alone. The fishery doesn't get any love from TP&W. And as long as it will drain Dallas the COE doesn't care about it silting in. I saw a footprint of the watershed, and it was ~ a quarter of the state of Texas. The home values on the north end are pitiful, and the south is not much better. Compare them to Conroe 45 min's away. All that said I like fishing the lake because of the type of fishing it takes. Just wish it got a little care and love from the government. Oh yeah, and as Bobby Bare said - I give her a 3.

I love fishing that lake. Casting at visible targets all day is therapeutic for me. I always seem to catch 10 or more doing it. Not in the same league as other east Texas lakes but if you like junk fishing shallow dirty water then it's a fun place. Plus you can catch fish shallow in the summer. I only fish the lake when it gets hot.