Well I�d like personally thank the child that made my tungsten weights for 1/4 of the price i paid from the tackle shops who bought them from the same exact place as I did. Quality is great for mine

Never really though about going this route for my tungsten weights...So what the verdict on the overall quality? Even when I pay more for ones from brand names, they still chip and wear from use.

We can say all we want that things should be made in America but these companies have one goal, that's to turn a profit. they will continue to import them from China until customers are willing to pay alot more for that product. A free market is driven by the consumer.

Back to the real issue

The plopper is the most over rated lure in history besides the laser lure

I�ve caught more fish on my Laser Lire then my plopped!! Lol

I got no problems with companies having products made in China, it is only way many can compete.

I despise companies like Alibaba that simply steal other peoples� ideas and then sell them for cheaper because they get to cut out the inventor and don�t have to pay employees to come up with these ideas.

These types of companies are thieves and consumers reward them to save a buck.

You want to reward a thief it is your money.


https://qz.com/771727/chinas-factories-i...to-get-over-it/

Haha that�s not what alibaba does. Everyone has a price.

What they do is go straight to the plant and say hey, change the name and sell to me. They don�t copy it. They literally get the same exact product.

My tungsten weights are literally made side by side with the big brands you see see online.

It�s capitalism. If these money hungry SOB�s didn�t want a 30-40% margin I would buy from them.

A voice of reason. Many inventors sell their inventions to someone who has the expertise and finances to mass produce their invention but few get the recognition or monetary reward. Bill McEwen is said to have invented the spinnerbait but he sold it to Charles Spence which was Strike King Lure Company. Probably 15 or 20 different brands of spinnerbaits on the market now. Alibaba doesn't make anything, they buy products and businesses from entrepreneurs and inventors and market them to the world. Warren Buffet and Carl Icahn basically do the same. It's capitalism and Clark I betcha the margin at BPS, Academy, etc. is much more than 30-40%. That would barely pay their overhead. I may never buy another Whopper Plopper directly from China but I do want to compare it to the ones I bought retail here and see if one performs better than the other and it will be a fair test I promise.

I just Laugh when I read All these �I support the small business� and �I only Buy American, Murcia� bs. Look I wish Everything was made right here in the Great USA. But we Americans are greedy [censored] and can�t make an honest profit. Nothing is 100% made in America. Nothing. Even the 350 round bales in my hay field we�re in some from or fashion made via over seas products.

I�m all for supporting the lemonade stand the kids put up. But when it comes to goods and services, I work too hard for my money to not try and save a buck or two from something. I shop At BPS and cabelas and all those, but if i can get the same product 1/4 of the price I�m doing it. Those who disagree are lying to themselves and calling the kettle black if they say they don�t do the same at some level.

I work in the chemical industry.

If a customer comes to us with a formula and asks us to make it for them, we dont sell that product to other service companies.

The formula belongs to the original customer.

it would not be right to manufacture that product and bypass the customer that came up with formula and sell to their customer.

Sorry that is not capitalism.

Nowhere did I say we should only buy 100% American. Im saying we shouldnt support corrupt business practices.

in China, that IS capitalism!

as a country they don't recognize patents, trademarks, copyrights, brands, or anything else that would afford a company competitive protection of their R&D. by our standards it is unethical at best, straight up theft at worst; by their standards it is just called 'business'.

They list the manufacturer as ALLBLUE not River2Sea

That is correct. Different company and they make their own Whopper Ploppers. No different than Strike King, Booyah, Terminator, Stanley, War Eagle, etc. all make their own spinner baits and some may even be made in China or they buy the parts in China. Some folks just can't accept the fact that China has the expertise to make as good a product as the U.S. but if you search their tackle box probably 3/4 of the stuff in there came from China.

No one made that claim. I always enjoy reading your posts, but apparently your reading comprehension is lacking.

There are two possibilities:

1. Alibaba is buying the exact same product off the exact same assembly line and bypassing the creator of the lure.

2. Alibaba is buying a knockoff of the Whopper Plopper and selling it under the same name. So selling a knockoff but taking advantage of all the advertising the creator has paid for. That is false advertising.

3. River2Sea gave Alibaba permission to sell direct to consumers and cut out their customers.



Neither option 1 nor 2 IMO, is a business practice I want to support. Both are essentially theft. Never said I would never buy products made in China.

Option 3 is highly unlikely because as we see its being advertised as a different company's product.

I never called you Un-American either. I was only trying to point out what is likely happening in case many people didn't realize and just thought they were getting an awesome deal.