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Re: Draft [Re: RayBob] #12725555 04/22/18 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: RayBob
Hernandez the OG from UTEP maybe or best available OL. Talk in the off season has been all about making the offense Dak friendly. Fixing the OL issues will do that. Biggest need after that is LB'er. If it was me at 19 and he's available then I'd pick Vita Vea.
OL is the biggest need for the cowboys IMHO. I know they need all sorts of help on defense at nearly all positions, but they're 2 decent offensive linemen away from getting back that good running game and making it much more Dak-friendly. One decent player isn't going to make the defense that much better - they just have too many holes on that side of the ball.

But I think they should draft best player available. Drafting for position when you're as bad as they are is a losing game - ask Cleveland.


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Originally Posted By: RayBob
Hernandez the OG from UTEP maybe or best available OL. Talk in the off season has been all about making the offense Dak friendly. Fixing the OL issues will do that. Biggest need after that is LB'er. If it was me at 19 and he's available then I'd pick Vita Vea.
I would take Vita Vea at 19 but he wont' be there. If by chance he is I don't think the boys even have them on their radar. Could be a big mistake if they don't if that plays out.

Re: Draft [Re: Davedave] #12725604 04/22/18 01:07 AM
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Hernandez - OL at the back end of the 1st for an extra 3rd....Kirk - WR in 2nd, Jewell - LB and Elliot - SS in 3rd, Hines - RB and then Nnadi - DT in the 4th, Fumaglia - TE in the 5th but he may go earlier (Whitten clone).... I haven't studied the last few picks yet.


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Re: Draft [Re: Davedave] #12725705 04/22/18 02:23 AM
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Hopefully, the best defense player available regardless of position in every round


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Re: Draft [Re: Scagnetti] #12725749 04/22/18 03:07 AM
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Hernandez the OG from UTEP maybe or best available OL. Talk in the off season has been all about making the offense Dak friendly. Fixing the OL issues will do that. Biggest need after that is LB'er. If it was me at 19 and he's available then I'd pick Vita Vea.

Ive heard the same talk about fixing the OL but how many more 1st round picks and dollars are you going to invest in an OL that already has three Pro Bowlers playing in front of arguably the best RB in the NFL?

The Cowboys have a brittle LB in Lee playing on the 25th ranked defense with glaring needs in the secondary and theyre going to ignore that?

I dont get it



Smart as you are???

You get it.

I don't really care and I'd imagine Stephen Jones doesn't either how many 1st round picks are on the OL. Their draft position is not that important. The importance would be there is excellence along the OL which while there in 2016 was missing in 2017, as you know. This almost needs to be a plug and play guy.

I hear a lot of people slam Dallas' secondary but that group of rookies they started with was play pretty darn strong at the end of last year. I think they will continue to grow better especially with the addition of coach Kris Richard.

You have a strong point concerning the Cows LB'ers. That concerns me as well. Losing Hitchens hurts , like losing Leary in 2017 did. I fully look for Dallas FO to address that in 1 or 2 ways. The draft is obvious. secondly maybe a FA. NaVorro Bowman is sitting out there in free agency land.

Cows just have some rebuilding to do but this FO has operated differently , not perfect, but better since SJ and Will McClay have been pulling the strings (since 2011). I expect more positive moves.


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Re: Draft [Re: Trickster] #12725755 04/22/18 03:15 AM
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Hernandez the OG from UTEP maybe or best available OL. Talk in the off season has been all about making the offense Dak friendly. Fixing the OL issues will do that. Biggest need after that is LB'er. If it was me at 19 and he's available then I'd pick Vita Vea.
I would take Vita Vea at 19 but he wont' be there. If by chance he is I don't think the boys even have them on their radar. Could be a big mistake if they don't if that plays out.


Vea is big enough, mobile enough, and dangerous enough to take a lot of pressure off the LB'ers . Build up the middle D. I don't think he'll be there either but who knows?


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Re: Draft [Re: Davedave] #12725763 04/22/18 03:27 AM
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I wish the Cowboys would pick this guy somewhere along the way.

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Re: Draft [Re: Davedave] #12725768 04/22/18 03:40 AM
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A hard pipe hitting Linebacker.


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Theyve got to get a lber and a safety. Got too.


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Re: Draft [Re: fish4bass] #12725865 04/22/18 12:04 PM
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A hard pipe hitting Linebacker.


They've had a few pipe hitters, Gregory and McClain

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When I look @ their record with vs. without Sean Lee - I think they need to go linebacker.

JR

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When I look @ their record with vs. without Sean Lee - I think they need to go linebacker.

JR


Agree, I'm thinking Rashan Evans, if they go WR Ridley is probably the guy, don't count out Sutton either, dude is a beast

Re: Draft [Re: lconn4] #12726060 04/22/18 03:41 PM
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I wish the Cowboys would pick this guy somewhere along the way.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/2018/04/21/shaquem-griffin-im-not-just-a-feel-good-story/


Not going to happen, he's not a thug with a rap sheet, not Cow material (this was for my buddies RayBob and Tx) grin


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Would LOVE to see Shaquem Griffin come to the Cows, I am pulling for him in a big way. I grew up with a guy who had the same condition with his arm and was one of the best shooters on the court I ever played with. We called him "auto" sometimes, cause if you made the mistake of giving him time to get the ball balanced properly on his good hand, he was pretty much automatic when he was on. I saw him hit 6 triples in pickup game to 15 before, it was crazy. He used his bad arm/hand to position the ball then quickly lifted and spun it up in position then elevated and shot. It was a beautiful sight to behold, he worked hard at it. I miss that guy. RIP Rodney, you were special and a good man.


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Hernandez at 19 if he is still there. NO way Jerrah passes him up.


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