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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: senko9S] #12661029 03/06/18 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: senko9S
miss those drifts. that's where I learned a bubblegum fluke.


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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Longeye] #12661093 03/06/18 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Longeye
Back in the day when the south/southwest side of wolf island was full of hydrilla, it was a massacre. Went out there one day and caught my best (10.25) and a boat load of 4's - 6's but those days are long gone.

Had a few awesome days drifting that hydrilla with a 10" pumpkinseed worm. Sure wish it would come back.


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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Barrett] #12661119 03/06/18 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Barrett
Btw yall know there is grass coming back basically on the entire north end of the lake anywhere in 3 feet or less? I pulled up hydrilla yesterday. Some places its already thick too.


Shhh. I think that just washed in with all the rain. Nothing to see here. peep

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Barrett] #12661139 03/06/18 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Barrett
Btw yall know there is grass coming back basically on the entire north end of the lake anywhere in 3 feet or less? I pulled up hydrilla yesterday. Some places its already thick too.


bang

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Justin DuBose] #12661152 03/06/18 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Justin DuBose
I just wait for March and April then get Barrett to take me fishing out there.....



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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Barrett] #12661438 03/07/18 01:35 AM
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Outstanding. How are zebras? You could stand in 3 foot of water in pick them up in clumps. My kids did that 2 years ago. It seems like maybe they have gone away a little but hard to tell.


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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Stratos2011] #12661485 03/07/18 02:04 AM
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I can’t stand Ray Roberts!! Luckily there are other really good lakes in our area. I’m sure there are lakes that I like that other people hate. My top 3 to hate: Ray Roberts, Lake Worth, Granbury.

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Mike Keenan] #12667626 03/11/18 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mike Keenan
Two things that Hurt ray Roberts... when they drew it down for the dam repairs back in 1999 or so and the grass going away... I think when the dam repairs were going on, they drained like 25’ out of it... that killed it

The draw down for the dam repair was the middle nineties. The major draw down was less than 25 feet and was a natural draw down due to drought in the late nineties. It was enough to kill the grass. Ray Roberts was fairly new then, and at the top of the water shed had plenty of nutrients in the water and soil. Age has taken its toll on the nutrients. Hydrilla tries to make a comeback, but can't seem to get started; just like every other lake in this water shed.
And, no, there was no spraying that took place.
The LMBV was real and took place all over Texas at the same time. Rayburn, Toledo, Fork, all came back. Roberts has been a slow process.
This isn't a theory. These are facts.

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Stratos2011] #12667639 03/11/18 06:01 PM
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Hubbard Creek doesn't seem to be doing too bad these days... Wasn't it almost dry couple years ago? Grass Everywhere....


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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Stratos2011] #12667976 03/11/18 11:24 PM
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The draw down to repair the dam is what got the grass started on those flats. The water came up slow enough to let it grow out there. It was a drought that left the grass on dry land. Hydrilla has made a come back a couple times since then, last time was about 2005. But again a drought left it on the bank. We get good stands of milfoil when we get consistent water levels, the last couple times it started coming back really good the lake flooded and the milfoil ended up in too deep of water for too long and it couldn't survive.

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Stratos2011] #12667984 03/11/18 11:38 PM
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I have been pulling up decent hydrilla in a couple spots , we shall see


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Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Stratos2011] #12668569 03/12/18 02:13 PM
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1 limit out of 250 plus teams this weekend. It can only get better...

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: Donald Harper] #12668593 03/12/18 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
First off you must learn how to do your mapping work. In doing so you will find where the fish live. From there you will pick the spots close by that they feed on and spawn on. It takes many hours at home on the computer to find these spots. Then you have to spend endless hours on the water eliminating these spots down to the best 3 shallow water spots, best 3 mid range spots and the 3 best deep water spots.
- You will have to fish at least 60 shallow water spots to find the 3 best spots for top water and spawning areas.
- You will have to fish 60 mid-range spots to find the 3 best spots. These are slopes, drainages, funnel points, inside bends in the creeks, no nothing shore lines with deep water very close by and out and around every point looking for irregular features of each.
- You will have to fish 60 deep water spots to find the 3 best spots. These are vertical ledges, deep creek channel ledges, bends in the river channel, inside bends of all creeks and underwater humps/islands. The ones that have the best irregular feature will hold the fish and will be the first area that the fish will move to and or call their comfort zone.

180 spots doesn't seem like very much to fish. We probably have fished that many spots on many lakes. The problem is all these spots need to be fish more than once. It may be the best spot on the lake; but if you are not there at the right time of the day, you will miss the window of opportunity. It takes one full year to fish these spots at different times of the day to become knowledgeable of what the fish are relating to and their routes from deep water to mid-range and then to the shallows. Big Bass follow the same pattern and route daily moving from one ambush spot to the next. It will be a very short distance form their deep water comfort zone to the shallows. How far that fish will advance each day depends on the food supply she runs into at each of her ambush spots along that route. She will start at the steepest drop or ledge, move to her second ambush spot that may be a river tree, then to a large stump, next to a pile of rocks, then move up on a funnel point and so forth toward the shallows. She may never make the full journey each day; because when she feeds up she will quickly return to her deep water comfort zone and suspend there until the next feeding period.

The odds are greatly against us on catching big fish. Smaller fish are much more active, feed more often and travel much farther to do so. Staying on the water and finding irregular features on deep contour lines is the key. I begin my search on the 30 ft. contours on the maps.


Makes what the pros did at RR even more impressive. How do they do it? Many (most?) of them had never been on the lake prior to tournament run.

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: adam_p] #12668600 03/12/18 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: adam_p
The draw down to repair the dam is what got the grass started on those flats. The water came up slow enough to let it grow out there. It was a drought that left the grass on dry land. Hydrilla has made a come back a couple times since then, last time was about 2005. But again a drought left it on the bank. We get good stands of milfoil when we get consistent water levels, the last couple times it started coming back really good the lake flooded and the milfoil ended up in too deep of water for too long and it couldn't survive.


Hydrilla had started before the dam work draw down. It was spread by a few unnamed fishermen coming back from East Texas with livewells full of the grass. And no, it wasn't the same unnamed fisherman that introduced smallmouth into Ray Roberts.
TPWD Biologist, Hysmith, always said Hydrilla could lay high and dry for years; as soon as water covered it, it would start growing again. Of course, he said a lot of things.

Re: Ray Roberts [Re: furim2] #12668629 03/12/18 02:49 PM
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Hysmith, always said Hydrilla could lay high and dry for years; as soon as water covered it, it would start growing again. Of course, he said a lot of things.


I was never a hysmith fan, but that has happened multiple times, including right now.

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