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 Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 04:21 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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02/20/18 04:22 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President. 15 is my favorite Article. Almost got one when I was in the Air Force.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: elcoyote, esq.]
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02/20/18 04:26 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President. 15 is my favorite Article. Almost got one when I was in the Air Force. I never got an Article 15, but I did get a page 11. Actually I got a couple page 11 entries - one good, one not so good.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 04:26 PM
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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02/20/18 04:44 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President. S Yup, I meant something else. 2nd Ammendment
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 04:54 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. How can we have an honest discussion if you say the second amendment is irrelevant? Just like your original post in this thread, youre starting off by being insulting and saying the second amendment is irrelevant. Then all of the bill of rights must be irrelevant. The Supreme Court has upheld the second amendment many times. Several of them in the last fifteen years.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 05:04 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President. S Yup, I meant something else. 2nd Ammendment Following your logic, the 1st Amendment should limit your freedom of speech to a quill pen and ink set. 
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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02/20/18 05:07 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. How can we have an honest discussion if you say the second amendment is irrelevant? Just like your original post in this thread, youre starting off by being insulting and saying the second amendment is irrelevant. Then all of the bill of rights must be irrelevant. The Supreme Court has upheld the second amendment many times. Several of them in the last fifteen years. how is there a conversation when the only answer is "pry my AR from my cold dead hand"? thats what makes people take gun control to the extreme. No one said anything about banning all guns, but thats where it immediately goes, so the other side is forced to bring up nuclear alternatives like the changing the 2nd amend.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: soggybottom]
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02/20/18 05:10 PM
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how is there a conversation when the only answer is "pry it from my AR from my cold dead hand"? thats what makes people take gun control to the extreme. No one said anything about banning all guns, but thats where it immediately goes, so the other side is forced to bring up nuclear alternatives like the changing the 2nd amend. For the record, do a forum search for the word "pry". You're the first to bring it up 
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
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02/20/18 05:15 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. Did you mean something else? Article 2 is about the President. S Yup, I meant something else. 2nd Ammendment Following your logic, the 1st Amendment should limit your freedom of speech to a quill pen and ink set. Would we be allowed to wear those white wigs and wear makeup? Asking for Derek.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
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02/20/18 05:26 PM
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following this logic, yes, if people were murdering kids with "pens" they would have been banned yesterday and the constitution would have been changed (not calling for change) just using your example.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 05:27 PM
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I dont own a semi auto rifle and probably never will. If they ban them I really dont care. Also, if they ban them I dont think it will solve anything.
I just dont want my kids to have to worry about bringing a doorstop to school with them. Can yall figure this out already?
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 05:33 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. I think you meant the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights, not the Article 2 of the Constitution. You fail the mental evaluation - you must turn in all your guns.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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02/20/18 05:36 PM
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I'm not sure why people think Article 2 of the constitution written in 1790 is still relevant in the real world of today. It clouds the discussion of how to address the problem as for many it simply comes back to that. Interestingly it has been modified so that it does not include many things like bombs, artillery, etc. I can see why people will argue for guns for protection, but not defending themselves against the military. I think you meant the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights, not the Article 2 of the Constitution. You fail the mental evaluation - you must turn in all your guns. monumental fail.
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Re: Mental evaluation for Gun Purchase
[Re: donothin]
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02/20/18 05:41 PM
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people with ideas other than mine scare me, and I have to attack them to keep from having to question or reevaluate my position on something that I have placed so much of my beliefs in!!
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