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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Ken A.] #12599388 01/29/18 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
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Most should know that just because it's loaded with DD doesn't mean they'll zoom over and jump on your hook. BTW is the wolf pack lake fishable or does he just have you fish the main lake?


It is fishable and loaded with fish. Price is the same to fish either lake. WP is somewhat of a mystery tho. Of the 74 DD's put in there only three 12's have been caught in two years time.

Evidence points to unprecedented growth from the first year's spawn. Many fish were caught in the 4.5 to 5.5 pound range that all looked like little clones with tiny mouths and out of proportion bodies one year after the first spawn.

I fished WP last April and had 20 fish all between 3.5 and 5.5 pounds. No fish that size range were put into the lake. Makes you wonder....


That is odd. I read in Lunker Lure about what you stated about the 74 DD'S transplanted into the wolf pack. So the 5.5 would have been roughly 2 years old? ..I live in the northeast (which isnt the right state for my obsession) and its a whole different scenario up here.

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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599404 01/29/18 12:35 AM
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I don't get the "High fence Hater" mentality. Hunting, fishing, or anything within reason. Short of shooting a deer litterally in a 20 sq/ft pin or catching a 18 on bass out of a bath tub.

The haters that claim there is no "sport" extremely hypocritical.

Unless you are fishing out of a hand dug canoe, with a gut string line you wove fishing with a cane you hand cut you have no room to talk. Same thing with hunting. Don't criticize Someone shooting a 200" deer in a 6,000 acre game ranch unless you hunt horseback with a bow you made with your own hands and a flint knapped broad head.

"Hey that guy caught that DD out of Camelot bell is BS, anyone can do that where's the sport in that" then the next weekend he's using his 450$ rod that could feel a fish fart from 100 yards looking at his dual 16" Carbon's while his spotlock holds him in place so he doesn't even have to hold his boat in the wind fishing.

Same thing with deer hunters. "Where's the sport in hunting high fence". Yea well where's the sport in sitting in a blind, under a feeder, with a high powered rifle and scope.

I do both of these things btw, but I don't knock the high fence guys because we all do something that others may seem less sporty.


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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: BassObsessed] #12599434 01/29/18 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted By: BassObsessed
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Most should know that just because it's loaded with DD doesn't mean they'll zoom over and jump on your hook. BTW is the wolf pack lake fishable or does he just have you fish the main lake?


It is fishable and loaded with fish. Price is the same to fish either lake. WP is somewhat of a mystery tho. Of the 74 DD's put in there only three 12's have been caught in two years time.

Evidence points to unprecedented growth from the first year's spawn. Many fish were caught in the 4.5 to 5.5 pound range that all looked like little clones with tiny mouths and out of proportion bodies one year after the first spawn.

I fished WP last April and had 20 fish all between 3.5 and 5.5 pounds. No fish that size range were put into the lake. Makes you wonder....


That is odd. I read in Lunker Lure about what you stated about the 74 DD'S transplanted into the wolf pack. So the 5.5 would have been roughly 2 years old? ..I live in the northeast (which isnt the right state for my obsession) and its a whole different scenario up here.


The exact timetable is up for debate. Supposedly 12 very large males (5-7.5#) were placed in the lake as it was filling in fall of 2015. Mike started adding DD females as they were caught in Winter of 2015 and all through 2016 and 2017.

Mike started letting folks fish the WP in Fall of 2016. These 2.5 to 3.5# fish started showing up in numbers. There were never any fish in this size range placed in the lake. They looked like very young fish with the mouth of a much smaller fish but with overblown bodies.

I fished the lake for the first time on April 19, 2017 and caught a bunch of them in the 5 pound class, with the biggest being 5.5. That is why I say "evidence" points to the first year fish in WP growing as much as 5.5# in their first year.

The real test IMO will be this spring. If 8 to 9 pounders start showing up in numbers we will know.

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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Clark3] #12599439 01/29/18 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: Clark3
I don't get the "High fence Hater" mentality. Hunting, fishing, or anything within reason. Short of shooting a deer litterally in a 20 sq/ft pin or catching a 18 on bass out of a bath tub.

The haters that claim there is no "sport" extremely hypocritical.

Unless you are fishing out of a hand dug canoe, with a gut string line you wove fishing with a cane you hand cut you have no room to talk. Same thing with hunting. Don't criticize Someone shooting a 200" deer in a 6,000 acre game ranch unless you hunt horseback with a bow you made with your own hands and a flint knapped broad head.

"Hey that guy caught that DD out of Camelot bell is BS, anyone can do that where's the sport in that" then the next weekend he's using his 450$ rod that could feel a fish fart from 100 yards looking at his dual 16" Carbon's while his spotlock holds him in place so he doesn't even have to hold his boat in the wind fishing.

Same thing with deer hunters. "Where's the sport in hunting high fence". Yea well where's the sport in sitting in a blind, under a feeder, with a high powered rifle and scope.

I do both of these things btw, but I don't knock the high fence guys because we all do something that others may seem less sporty.


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I have been once a couple springs ago and I am grateful for the experience!


To the naysayers, if you think it's "shooting fish in a barrel" you are mistaken. Those fish are finicky as any fish on the planet. We hit it at a good time in March during a stable day between a lot of fronts and the fishing was tough for sure. I would like a another crack at it one day, maybe I will be able to go, maybe not.

To me the best part of the day was the conversation with Mike and Chris on ride to and from Mexia and during lunch. Mike's knowledge of how to grow big fish and their behavior is amazing.

If you can make it happen, you'll enjoy the time just knowing what you can potentially catch and also visiting with Mike.


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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599469 01/29/18 01:13 AM
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Had the pleasure to fish this a couple years ago due to a very gracious forum member on this thread. I think our best 5 went over 40 pounds and I caught my personal best of 11 pounds. That place is pretty special!

Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599471 01/29/18 01:14 AM
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I was told this used to be a place they farm raised catfish for chain restaurants, now they sell trophy bass fishing, odd

Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Ken A.] #12599472 01/29/18 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
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Originally Posted By: Ken A.
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Most should know that just because it's loaded with DD doesn't mean they'll zoom over and jump on your hook. BTW is the wolf pack lake fishable or does he just have you fish the main lake?


It is fishable and loaded with fish. Price is the same to fish either lake. WP is somewhat of a mystery tho. Of the 74 DD's put in there only three 12's have been caught in two years time.

Evidence points to unprecedented growth from the first year's spawn. Many fish were caught in the 4.5 to 5.5 pound range that all looked like little clones with tiny mouths and out of proportion bodies one year after the first spawn.

I fished WP last April and had 20 fish all between 3.5 and 5.5 pounds. No fish that size range were put into the lake. Makes you wonder....


That is odd. I read in Lunker Lure about what you stated about the 74 DD'S transplanted into the wolf pack. So the 5.5 would have been roughly 2 years old? ..I live in the northeast (which isnt the right state for my obsession) and its a whole different scenario up here.


The exact timetable is up for debate. Supposedly 12 very large males (5-7.5#) were placed in the lake as it was filling in fall of 2015. Mike started adding DD females as they were caught in Winter of 2015 and all through 2016 and 2017.

Mike started letting folks fish the WP in Fall of 2016. These 2.5 to 3.5# fish started showing up in numbers. There were never any fish in this size range placed in the lake. They looked like very young fish with the mouth of a much smaller fish but with overblown bodies.

I fished the lake for the first time on April 19, 2017 and caught a bunch of them in the 5 pound class, with the biggest being 5.5. That is why I say "evidence" points to the first year fish in WP growing as much as 5.5# in their first year.

The real test IMO will be this spring. If 8 to 9 pounders start showing up in numbers we will know.


That is insane genetics and buffet like food availability. I saw where the Camelot bass are thick right down to there tail. I'll be anxious to hear the spring updates.

Re: Camelot bell? [Re: SC-001] #12599565 01/29/18 02:25 AM
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I was told this used to be a place they farm raised catfish for chain restaurants, now they sell trophy bass fishing, odd


You heard wrong sir.

As a matter of fact there is not a catfish in the lake, nor crappie nor any other kind of fish other than bass, threadfin shad and coppernose bluegill. He has stocked rainbow trout a few times and tilapia to add to the forage base but there is nothing in the lake to compete with the bass.

There are maybe a half dozen grass carp in the lake that are four feet long now, probably 50 pounds. You will occasionally see them cruising the shallows eating grass.

Mike took special care when he built the lake to make sure there were no lakes below it or above it that could rise and flood into it thereby diluting the gene pool. That is another thing that makes the lake so special. The Florida genes remain pure.



Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599568 01/29/18 02:28 AM
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Did the cold winter cause a shad die off?

Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Jarrett Latta] #12599589 01/29/18 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
Did the cold winter cause a shad die off?


Good question. I am sure it did to an extent. I will ask Mike how it affected his lakes.



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Maybe someday!! It sounds incredible Ken! Fouzman...100 x $1500 = holy smokes. Are you a Rockefeller? LOL!


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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599594 01/29/18 02:41 AM
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I think most guys problem with CB is that they can't afford to fish it, so anything record wise or PB wise don't register with them, as most of the public can't fish it.
I really don't have a position with it, unless a state record was recognized from CB or any other private lake. I felt the same way, years ago about Echo.

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I would love to fish CB but I cannot afford it, going to have to stick to Ray Roberts and Texoma. grin


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Re: Camelot bell? [Re: Deps] #12599622 01/29/18 02:54 AM
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I can afford to fish it, but I'd choose not to spend $1500 to fish a little lake for a day. Ridiculous, IMO.


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