It's a level 4. They don't just pick a random level to assign to an area. Think about it, that is the same level as Afghanistan. I used to hear Americans traveling to Cancun telling everyone how safe it was on the resorts until they had a shootout on the beach full of Americans and later when they found 2 suitcases with bodies hacked up in them. A fishing trip there will be safe until it isn't. If you're the one caught there then, we'll all set around and have a thread about it and everyone will be saying that it was your fault for being somewhere you shouldn't be.

If you can't be out after dark and feel that you should be relatively safe, do you really think it is somewhere you should be during the day? Too many other places that I can fish in this world to be choosing one in an area so out of control as Mexico right now.

So what do you imagine the rating for Detroit, Memphis or St. Louis would be?

So what do you imagine the rating for Detroit, Memphis or St. Louis would be?

lol Thats funny right there! dont forget Chi-Raq

So what do you imagine the rating for Detroit, Memphis or St. Louis would be?

So what do you imagine the rating for Detroit, Memphis or St. Louis would be?

That is the most ignorant defense I have heard. I get that Mexico isn't the only dangerous place and there are plenty of places to avoid here in the USA. That is exactly why you nor I choose to walk down the street there and most of the time avoid driving in that part of town altogether. Add being in a foreign country with known corrupt police and government and well the lack of comparison could go on forever.

It is dangerous just like the wrong street in Chicago, just don't expect any help for you or your family from government resources.

I am not telling you it's not worth it because a trip of a lifetime might well be. It has been for me any many others who have been. I just was lucky enough to go prior to this mess and we all thought it to be relatively safe. At least for traveling outside the USA.

I will say that while fishing you are closer to the cartel business than many on here will let you know. While fishing Salto at what I recall record high water levels, 23 feet high, at the back of coves and cuts, you could see crops being grown and tended to. Water being pumped from the lake for irrigation and hombres taking siesta's underneath trees with machine guns. We also had security escorts while fishing Comedero that accompanied us throughout the day on the water and stood outside the bunkhouse while we slept.

Not to mention getting stopped by the Police on the way back to Mazatlan, for what seemed like hours that was about 15 minutes probably, and our driver getting really nervous on the side of the road. I believe both camps now allow you to travel from fish camp to the airport if you so choose avoiding a nights stay in town. This is definitely the route I would choose.

Hindsight leaves a little to be desired but I had a hell of a good time on each trip. My wife knows nothing about the circumstances above because it would scare her. And honestly the desire to go back burns hotter as each year passes but I can't talk myself back into it yet. I about had myself convinced until the level 4.

So what do you imagine the rating for Detroit, Memphis or St. Louis would be?