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Re: Fishtailing [Re: senko9S] #12573386 01/11/18 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: senko9S
what about a seat belt gig?


Alright, alright, that's enough of that. The way some people drive they need seat belts. I wasn't implying they should be required, I just wondered in that particular instance if seat belts would have kept both anglers from being ejected. Spearing a wave didn't kill them, getting ejected did.


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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573393 01/11/18 12:51 PM
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Most likely chine walk and trimming down or slowing down will solve the issue.

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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573519 01/11/18 02:26 PM
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I see all of the time people trying new props or messing with motor height trying to get the most top end speed they can. The only time you will accomplish speed gains from motor height adjustment or a different prop is when you learn how to control the chine. All boats chine at a certain speed, some more than others. If you are slowing down or trimming down when your boat starts to chine then you will never go faster than that at which it started no matter what modifications you do. A friend of mine with a bass cat 200 merc complained his boat would only run around 63 / 65. He wanted me to drive the boat and see if I could figure out why it was slower than what others claimed they could run with the same set-up. I got it up to 72 .... he said was slowing down when it started to get out of control.

Re: Fishtailing [Re: Huckleberry] #12573522 01/11/18 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
I see all of the time people trying new props or messing with motor height trying to get the most top end speed they can. The only time you will accomplish speed gains from motor height adjustment or a different prop is when you learn how to control the chine. All boats chine at a certain speed, some more than others. If you are slowing down or trimming down when your boat starts to chine then you will never go faster than that at which it started no matter what modifications you do. A friend of mine with a bass cat 200 merc complained his boat would only run around 63 / 65. He wanted me to drive the boat and see if I could figure out why it was slower than what others claimed they could run with the same set-up. I got it up to 72 .... he said was slowing down when it started to get out of control.


I have given boat driving lessons to probably 25 guys over the years. wink



Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573557 01/11/18 02:58 PM
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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573574 01/11/18 03:04 PM
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Its not chine walking. Had the boat well over a year and know how to drive it. The rear end is sliding out to one side, not just rocking like chine walk does. I will check the hydraulic steering and see if it has any air. I checked all bolts last night and all are tight. Thanks for the input guys!


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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573620 01/11/18 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: young gun 12
Its not chine walking. Had the boat well over a year and know how to drive it. The rear end is sliding out to one side, not just rocking like chine walk does. I will check the hydraulic steering and see if it has any air. I checked all bolts last night and all are tight. Thanks for the input guys!


This discussion about steering issues may have very well saved your life. Please check everything on the steering system in your boat.



Re: Fishtailing [Re: Dubee] #12573622 01/11/18 03:31 PM
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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12573629 01/11/18 03:35 PM
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Check and make sure your skeg isn't broken off.

Re: Fishtailing [Re: Ken A.] #12573652 01/11/18 03:45 PM
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Send me five easy payments of 69.95 per month! Lol


Lol. Guess i will figure it out myself. Lol

Re: Fishtailing [Re: the skipper] #12573699 01/11/18 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: the skipper
Hydraulic steering might have air in, motor bolts could be loose. My last boat did it once and it was air the steering system. Easy fix


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Re: Fishtailing [Re: Tjhook] #12574169 01/11/18 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Travis@BorisMarine
my boat fish tailed on my Saturday. Its a steering issue, not sure what it is yet. Its at charlies outboards in Alvarado right now.


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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12575061 01/12/18 01:38 PM
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Actually, this sounds more like gearcase crabbing, also known as prop walk.

Prop loses bite for just a second.

http://www.screamandfly.com/archive/index.php/t-37859.html

Probably need to lower your motor just a little.

Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12575074 01/12/18 01:52 PM
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My boat tries to "walk" a little, but not until it gets right around 75mph or so and then it seems to settle back down at around the 80-81mph mark after I bump the trim down a hair and bump the jack plate up a hair.

Each boat is different and they all have their own little nuances...


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Re: Fishtailing [Re: B-Deuces] #12575096 01/12/18 02:04 PM
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I have to agree that what you are describing is not chine walking at all. You describe the back end slipping out from under you. Kind of like a high speed drift but with rear wheel drive? Loosing traction at high speed? If I try turning to sharp at WOT with motor high I feel my back end beginning to slide out. Things can get crazy real fast if we try to push past this limit without adjusting something. My choices in this scenario are to A. Slow down a little. B. Trim down a little or C. Back of the sharpness of the turn. You know your own boat so if this is a brand new sensation/problem or you feel it at lower speeds obviously you have one of the aforementioned problems that others have posted. High speed only? Could be simply your boat telling you you have found the edge and are at the limits of your present set up. Good luck.

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