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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 10:49 PM
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coachallentca
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very sad. I hope they find the guy but it's not looking good.. Parying for the family.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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01/06/18 11:26 PM
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PowPowOl'Son
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He must've been getting it pretty good to end up that far from the coangler. And to lose someone from spearing a wave? I've seen guys come out due to hooking a wave but to spear and lose him is a helluva impact imo It was a single console boat. If he speared a wave pretty good, the amount of water that comes over the bow is overwhelming. Its crazy how much comes over. It couldve easily washed him out of his seat.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 11:51 PM
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fouzman
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Coincidence is His way of remaining anonymous.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 11:52 PM
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ChuChu1
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This from a guy that was there.
Its not good. The lady in room next to us visited bill (angler) at hospital. They speared a wave and Nik went out. By the time he stopped he tried to go back and get him, engine would not fire. He went to try trolling motor and another wave knocked him off boat, co angler was last seen waving at him. He had to tie his self to the troll motor cable to stay with boat. He was able to get away from boat and to land before it crashed on rocks. It was 30degrees and windy as hell, water temps were low 50's where we were. I would imagine by the time he stopped he was already a long ways from him. Then the wind pushing boat did not help when it was dead in water. I dont know all the details yet but this was from someone who actually saw him and asked right b4 we left today. Its probably the most accurate thing we have heard so far from a reliable source. I pray they find him alive.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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01/06/18 11:58 PM
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Flippin-Out
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It's odd that the driver was able to stay with the boat, if indeed that's what happened, and the co was not able. It's also strange that the video I saw of the boat against the rocks showed the boat completely full of water. Wonder why the auto bilge wasn't functional . But, I guess it could have been a destroyed hull and a dead battery. Can't tell by the pictures and video.
Sad .....very sad. Steez, By the time that video was made, the boat had (apparently) been swamped for 12 or more hours (so the battery was likely dead). Once you take on a lot of water (one wave can do it), your freeboard is virtually nil, and then wave after wave will begin to wash over the boat. Getting a boat moving again, into the waves so the bow rides over them, is crucial to any chance of ever getting water out of the boat. Even then, the standard bilge pumps in many boats today are unlikely to be able to do it in such extreme conditions, in my opinion. I don't know yet if he ever got it started again, or if he ever got it moving into the waves to effect any chance of dewatering. Everyone should keep in mind that the big picture outcome of getting swamped may be determined in what steps you take IMMEDIATELY after taking the first wave into the boat...along with how well your equipment is prepared for dealing with this serious situation. My modified setup will pump almost 3X the water compared to the boat's factory configuration. Some who run big water even put a dedicated pump (large at that) in the cockpit floor of the boat. I'm thinking of doing that also (at least 1500 GPH).
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/07/18 12:07 AM
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fouzman
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ChuChu, thanks for posting that. From the bassfan article, the accident happened at 0730, 8-10 miles outside the mouth of the Kissimmee River. Sounds like the main lake was furious and winds were high. Amazing to me that Kisiah survived 11+ hours in those conditions. Pray for the recovery of the co-angler. His family really needs that right now.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/07/18 12:58 AM
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Following this has me ordering a ACR personal locator beacon. It's one of the few that don't require a service plus its waterproof and buoyant. About $250 for a added piece of mind.
I go to a number of places where you are quite a way from anything. We go out to the Breton Islands from Venice in bay boats for example. Weather can change quickly or unexpected. Equipment can fail. Accidents can happen. Even the most experienced can get in a life threatening situation.
It would be a great idea the tournament trails to made it a beacon mandatory. They go a long way. Lots can happen. No one may know something has occurred until the boat doesn't check in.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: fouzman]
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01/07/18 01:13 AM
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Chris_K
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I read that as well 
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/07/18 01:28 AM
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grout-scout
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On another forum someone mentioned that maybe the kill switch came off upon impact with the wave and that could be why the motor died/didnt re-start. Seemed like a very plausible situation.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Chris_K]
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01/07/18 02:09 AM
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mudd
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I read that as well Thats some interesting insight into the conditions.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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01/07/18 07:26 AM
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SoCal Tom
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He must've been getting it pretty good to end up that far from the coangler. And to lose someone from spearing a wave? I've seen guys come out due to hooking a wave but to spear and lose him is a helluva impact imo We speared a wave on Tawakoni last year and I was halfway out of the boat from it. I went to the beach a lot when I was young in San Diego and never got hit that hard by water as that day. I understand how it could happen. Prayers for all involved
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: grout-scout]
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01/07/18 10:48 AM
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Flippin-Out
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On another forum someone mentioned that maybe the kill switch came off upon impact with the wave and that could be why the motor died/didnt re-start. Seemed like a very plausible situation. The kill-switch theory is an excellent one. In safety articles I've read, that oversight typically gets mentioned as to why some incidents got a lot more serious than need be - all because an engine restart failed due to a disconnected kill-switch. I've had this puzzle me after I got up with the vest on and later had trouble starting the outboard, only to realize I had pulled a dunce move. Because the plastic tabs can get broken, I carry a spare in the boat, too. It's a VERY long way from the NW part of the lake down to Pahokee Rocks (by the Pahokee airport). I'm familiar with that lone utility pole light there as well. It's a landmark of at least 40 years I think.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/07/18 03:13 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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In the video of the boat rolling against the rocks, is the trolling motor stowed? It looks like it. That is odd. If it is stowed, no way was it used to look for someone and then the boater fell out.
I'm probably wrong.
Ranger Z520 guy.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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01/07/18 03:51 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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In the video of the boat rolling against the rocks, is the trolling motor stowed? It looks like it. That is odd. If it is stowed, no way was it used to look for someone and then the boater fell out.
I'm probably wrong. Maybe he tried to deploy and got knocked out before he even had a chance to deploy
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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01/07/18 04:12 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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In the video of the boat rolling against the rocks, is the trolling motor stowed? It looks like it. That is odd. If it is stowed, no way was it used to look for someone and then the boater fell out.
I'm probably wrong. Maybe he tried to deploy and got knocked out before he even had a chance to deploy The story is that the co was ejected, then the boater couldn't start the boat and then "searched for a bit with the trolling motor" and then was thrown from the swamped boat. I don't know. Im sure that the shock of the incedent impairs judgment and ability to think and remember clearly.
Ranger Z520 guy.
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