It's not that it's not a popular topic. It's just that 99% of us in the OT are fat and lazy and don't visit the fitness section.

What is the way to stop this?

You would have to break trigger fingers to prevent someone from rapidly squeezing off shots. I think I could empty a magazine as fast as a bump stock with nothing but my finger.

An AR can be bump fired by without any device fairly easily with a little practice...

Easy, you cant stop the guns. There are already too many in circulation and the will be for the next 100 yrs or more. You stop the ammo. all the repeating rounds and you don't allow guns with different ammo to be mass produced. In just 10 yrs it would be very difficult to get if you didn't already have a stash. Crazies that weren't already into guns (shick is most mass shooters) would have a very difficult time getting it and you aren't going to kill more than 5-6 without a semi auto.

Guilty... and 3 generations of my family ahead of me that were fit died of cancer. I'm trying a different direction, and my lady likes em a little thick. LOL!



This is a very good point that I hadn't really considered...

If you ever shot a bump fire contraption you would understand it's not all that great. Under controlled conditions you can burst off a magazine for fun and feel like you are rocking and rolling. Then you put it away and never use again. Banning bump fire devices is certainly not going to make us safer. You can also bump fire without even needing a bump fire stock. You may have the materials at home or just a quick trip to the local hardware store or even Wallyworld.

In watching the videos and reading about the function, it looks like you could use a rifle sling wrapped around your shoulder to accomplish the same thing as the bump stock. I'm not very mechanically minded, so I have no idea if one could even design & build a semiauto that could have a 'governor' limiting maximum rate of fire.

Ok. Not an answer to the question. You can also alter an AR trigger group at home. If automatic weapons are illegal, all of these tricks to make a gun an auto should be illegal as well, including practicing a bump fire.

I will also say that it's difficult to make an argument for bump fire stocks as anything except for a tool that could be used really effectively against a huge crowd of people. They're not nearly accurate enough to be used for hunting or range work or any other normal purpose.

I'm against gun control, but we should be philosophically consistent. However automatic weapons are regulated, tricks to make normal guns operate like automatic guns should be regulated in the same way. If we want to have a conversation about legalizing automatic weapons, that's fine too. It's just illogical to have different standards for guns that are made automatic by the manufacturer versus those that are made automatic by the end-user.

https://worldtruth.tv/five-more-things-that-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-massacre/

Read this, if you have questions about the logistics of this all. Makes you think WTH.

Why do we have different standards for guns that are made automatic by the manufacturer versus those that are made automatic by the end-user?

If you can provide an answer to that which is philosophically consistent and logical, then I'm open to it. Otherwise, the rest of these arguments are just grasping.

Where the brass? In the photo you only see a very small portion of a whole big, huge room.

I stopped reading after that.

To those who believe bump stocks are fine as-is:

Do you think automatic weapons should be regulated in the same way as bump stocks and AR-15 rifles are regulated now?

Simple, bump fire does not make a firearm fully automatic. A trigger pull is required for each round.

If he was close to the window opening when he fired, plenty of it could have gone out the window as well. My ARs typically ejected at about 2:00, which wouldn't leave any or very little brass in the room.