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Bump fire stocks and Youtube
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10/05/17 05:25 AM
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Uncle Zeek
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I ordered and paid for a slidefire stock yesterday so I could satisfy my curiosity about this device. Rather interested to see whether it gets shipped or not, as the slide fire website has a message tonight that they aren't taking any more orders at present. Not sure if they're sold out, or if they're being bombarded by cyberattacks. If it doesn't get shipped, no big deal - I'll get my money back.
I'm reserving judgement at the moment as to whether this device should be legal or illegal. One mundane argument against making this thing illegal is that it's something that I could build at home without making permanent modifications to a rifle.
In reading about these stocks, I went to Youtube. My word, the vicious people are out in force piling hate-filled comments on tutorial videos that are several years old. Saw lots of comments left that youtube should take all such videos (and presumably anything firearms related) down. I have a bad feeling about where this could lead.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 09:16 AM
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Gamblinman
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I have several...I bought one outright and the others came on used weapons I purchased. They work best with a lite (3.0 lb.) trigger pull.
Lots of fun, and you find out real quick what ammo you're weapon likes best. I found Federal brass works best. The steel ammo not so much.
I don't see these being banned completely, but becoming NFA items.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 10:41 AM
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John175☮
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I expect bump-stock and echo-triggers to be looked at and outlawed.
I'm surprised they were found legal in 2010.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 10:54 AM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 11:13 AM
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patriot07
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Not much reason for them to be less regulated than automatic weapons. I assume they'll either be outlawed completely or regulated like other NFA items. I find either of those approaches reasonable.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 11:54 AM
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leethefishking
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One of my co workers bought one several years ago. We went out and fired it. As LEOs we all agreed it was fun but none of us were comfortable with it being legal. In my opinion it was a company building a device to skirt the law.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: leethefishking]
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10/05/17 12:13 PM
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Hard Rain
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One of my co workers bought one several years ago. We went out and fired it. As LEOs we all agreed it was fun but none of us were comfortable with it being legal. In my opinion it was a company building a device to skirt the law. I definitely agree...IMO I don't see why fully auto is illegal except with FFL but this is legal just does not make much sense.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 12:39 PM
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Nickbyrd
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Ehh burning up ammo fast as you can buy it ..sounds fun and cool and all But ,honestly if they outlawed it or was never even in existence I wouldn't hurt my feeling none .
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 12:47 PM
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Bob Davis
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We can't legislate our way out of this, to think that we can is foolhardy. You can 3D print a device in about 5 minutes or you can use a belt loop or a crank. I am against full auto, and see no need for it, but any legislation would be nothing more than a placebo.
It may make more sense to legislate concert venues. An open field packed with 40,000 people shoulder to shoulder enclosed by chain link is like shooting fish in a barrel. Especially with high rise hotels within range.
Last edited by Bob Davis; 10/05/17 12:49 PM.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 12:52 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 01:03 PM
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buda13
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I would have no issue with the bump stocks being deemed illegal... pretty sure its going to happen in short order. IMO they will be made illegal not only to buy and sell but also to posses. There wont be a grandfather clause with this one. So they are easy to make at home? Okay, fine.. let those people making their own deal with the federal charges when they get caught, but lets take them off the market so that any idiot out there cant just order one on the internet and instantly make a weapon almost auto.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 01:05 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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Should we govern vehicles to 75mph max?
I dont know why they sell cars with 600hp.
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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10/05/17 01:16 PM
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buda13
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Hard to argue that logic BBT...
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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10/05/17 01:22 PM
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txshotgun
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Should we govern vehicles to 75mph max?
I dont know why they sell cars with 600hp. False equivalence.
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Re: Bump fire stocks and Youtube
[Re: buda13]
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10/05/17 01:23 PM
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SheldonS
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I would have no issue with the bump stocks being deemed illegal... pretty sure its going to happen in short order. IMO they will be made illegal not only to buy and sell but also to posses. There wont be a grandfather clause with this one. So they are easy to make at home? Okay, fine.. let those people making their own deal with the federal charges when they get caught, but lets take them off the market so that any idiot out there cant just order one on the internet and instantly make a weapon almost auto. The average Joe who buys one or owns one for novelty will be stopped by laws. Someone who wants to do harm will not be stopped by laws.
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