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Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12160554 03/27/17 07:48 PM
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Yes sir and no sir goes a long way with police, game wardens and all law enforcement. They deal with a lot of attitude from scumbags. When decent people treat them with respect, they usually appreciate it. If you break a very minor law and they decide to pull you over, just cooperate and keep your opinions to yourself. Do these few things and I can guarantee that most of your interactions with the law will be painless.


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Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: AgSellers04] #12160576 03/27/17 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: AgSellers04
Bottom line is if law enforcement deems that you were operating a boat in an unsafe manner or creating an unsafe situation that may endanger someone in any way, shape, or form, whatever you were doing then becomes illegal. This is regardless of whether or not there is a sign or law on the books about running at speed under or along a bridge. Reckless endangerment is very much against the law and boaters all too often seem to misunderstand this.


Word up.

But some people feel if its legal its their right... safety of others be dammed. They should not be out there. My boat is bigger and faster and I am fishing for money so I own the lake.

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: J.P. Greeson] #12160613 03/27/17 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: J.P. Greeson
Yes sir and no sir goes a long way with police, game wardens and all law enforcement. They deal with a lot of attitude from scumbags. When decent people treat them with respect, they usually appreciate it. If you break a very minor law and they decide to pull you over, just cooperate and keep your opinions to yourself. Do these few things and I can guarantee that most of your interactions with the law will be painless.


Perfectly stated. Even if you get a ticket this time I would bet a majority of time if infraction isn't bad or someone just didn't know you get a warning when doing this. Not 100% of the time will you get away with it but I'm betting a large percent.


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Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: J.P. Greeson] #12160635 03/27/17 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: J.P. Greeson
Yes sir and no sir goes a long way with police, game wardens and all law enforcement. They deal with a lot of attitude from scumbags. When decent people treat them with respect, they usually appreciate it. If you break a very minor law and they decide to pull you over, just cooperate and keep your opinions to yourself. Do these few things and I can guarantee that most of your interactions with the law will be painless.


Yep, If you show respect they will too. Coping an attitude will get you nowhere

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12160685 03/27/17 09:23 PM
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WOW, I never expected this to go this far! Sorry to be so late getting back in. Work got in the way of a good fishin' story. First off my point is that during a big event like the Classic, just like you do with your children, maybe someone should have told their staff, don't be an a$$, we've got company coming over. To spend that day running back and forth filling tickets was the type of thing that the folks who review 'how did it go' consider. Me getting a ticket is irrelevant - but they may consider the fact that XXX were written those 3 days to visitors, and think - they really didn't want us down here. Just food for thought. I promise that the 'be on your best behavior' speech was was given to several staffs. The Classic dropped a ton of money in that town and community. That was my sole point. I want them to come back. That doesn't mean drop all speeding laws, or let everybody do whatever they want. By the way 361V and 9094, it looks like y'all are correct - it appears to be 'local ordinance' not state law. Similar to traffic light cameras and no jake brakes.

I'll respond to a few of the thoughts:
- I stand corrected, I do not run under the bridges at Fork, but they are marked with big letters on the bridge and a line of buoys - if I remember correctly. Actually, I haven't been to Fork in probably 12 years. However, Conroe is marked with a little ~ 2' x 2' sign on the column. By the time you can read it, you're too close to abide the law. Again, the law is the law, and I'm not protesting the ticket, just the attitude of the officer.
- The regulations that are being quoted don't align with the explanation I got either. It reads 50' - he said !00' (including him! haha - it was funny).
- Evidently reading comprehension was running a little low today. As I said, I was running ~ 35, not 70 as some seem to think. I was completely in control and there was not a boat within a quarter mile any direction. No one was tied under the bridge - it would have beat you senseless from the rollers. As a matter of fact - for all the 'it's dangerous, I fish under the bridge folks', on Rayburn, where I fish most often, I always look for a big open area without crappie boats, and go through there. And I have always checked-up and trimmed down to have better control when I go under a bridge. A couple of folks here have drawn me in tournaments, and will confirm. Loosing it at high speed and hitting a bridge would be bad. Oh, and IF there are crappie boats everywhere, I DO idle under the bridge. The 190 Bridge on Livingston, especially the east end always scares me, because too many people run through the first few openings, and they are blind to the other side. My COMMON sense makes me go out a little further and use another opening.
- Which begs the point, if there are indeed more deaths and incidents on Conroe, yet a bigger LEO presence (y'alls words - not mine) seems like maybe they are doing something wrong. Should be the safest place on earth. Do y'all remember the Triton that hit the pontoon with the family of 9 and killed them all as well as 2 poodles going under the bridge on T- Bend, or the Cat that hit the wake board boat killing 5 wakies and a Hawaiian Tropic model going under the bridge on Livingston? No? Because it never happened. Maybe it's not the hazard y'all have been regulated to believe?
- And 'check your horn before every trip'! Really? I had to look for 20 seconds before I found the button! I've seriously never heard a boat honk it's horn! I call BS on that one. By the way, I found a loose wire and fixed mine. None the less - it didn't work, I'll take my ticket - I looked, and I actually got a warning for that one.
- The Duck (should replace the U with I), Snowflake! Really! I'd hoped we wouldn't get to name calling, but here we go - Hillary Voter, Prius Driver!

Sorry if I upset you all. Hope to see y'all on the lake some day. You'd be lucky to have me as a friend, as I you.


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Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12160714 03/27/17 09:40 PM
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I'm down with a good wake and bake

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12160737 03/27/17 09:50 PM
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You didn't respond to whether you and Reid had tickle fights or not. I'll take the silence as a yes.


Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Dan90210 ☮] #12160760 03/27/17 10:04 PM
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Legal or not running on plane under those bridges is very dangerous.

As a kayak fisherman I want to give a big middle finger to anyone who does that... legal or not. There are always little crappie boats and jon boats, bass busters and yaks tied off on or near those pilings. And they could be on the backend of one where you cant see them and they cant see you.

Very dangerous situation to have a glitter boat shoot through there with any speed at all.

Common sense guys. Too many fisherman lost their lives bcs people dont practice common sense or show courtesy to their fellow man.


I'll play your game. If it's legal, then I'm gonna do it. You guys in your kayaks, jon boats and Trackers need to realize it's legal to run on plane therefore you should stay away. Go fish a lake with idle only bridges. That's simple.


Cigarettes are legal does not mean they are safe.

Use common sense bud. How would you feel if you take out a kid in yak or jon boat? Would you say, "well I was legal, too bad for him".

But hey, I guess your 50k boat trumps a guy in $500 Kayak. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain


So by your theory, if I'm driving 55mph in a 55mph zone and I run over you because I didn't see you playing in the highway, I'm at fault. This makes ZERO sense. YOU have to be responsible for your actions. YOU have to realize there's vehicles driving 55mph out there so don't play in the highway. Same goes for bridges. You must realize there will be boats running on plane under bridges where it's legal. Why would you be out expecting anything less?

Owning a $50k bass boat doesn't make anyone greater than anyone else. What does make someone greater than others is that person having common sense and putting it to use.

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12160824 03/27/17 10:41 PM
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If you knew on that 55mph freeway there would be people playing would you still drive 55mph?

Yes or No.

I would say no. Sounds like you're leaning toward yes because they should know better.

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If you knew on that 55mph freeway there would be people playing would you still drive 55mph?

Yes or No.

I would say no. Sounds like you're leaning toward yes because they should know better.


Face it. Some people are morons.

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Jeff Gilbert] #12160921 03/27/17 11:41 PM
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Lol, well I'm thinking this thread didn't go as expected.


Lol

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: bogey♂] #12160930 03/27/17 11:46 PM
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2 bee'z be careful on the bridges. I didn't realize this until a few years back, but the pilings that have a cross bar up top also have a cross bar under water. The ones I am talking about are the ones that run N-S. I think that all of them have the cross bar E-W

The only areas that I run on plane are where it says MAIN SPAN. I have seen people run the areas that have the cross member and I tighten up a little each time that I see it (even at idle).


I learned that a few years back when we got really low that last time too cheers Thankfully it did not cost me any money and someone told me as that could really ruin your day hitting a damn cross bar.


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Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Bryan O'] #12161014 03/28/17 12:32 AM
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Good thing the game wardens don't setup shop at the 155 bridge on the pines. If it's not occupied by crappie fisherman, I've never seen anyone check up.

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Highway 43 bridge on caddo too.

Re: Be Aware of the troll under the bridge on Conroe [Re: Dan90210 ☮] #12161063 03/28/17 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dan90210
If you knew on that 55mph freeway there would be people playing would you still drive 55mph?

Yes or No.

I would say no. Sounds like you're leaning toward yes because they should know better.


Common sense answer is yes, of course. But why should I have to worry about a moron playing in the highway? The idiot should have enough sense to not be there.

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