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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 02:22 AM
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Mark Perry
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Not knocking Ryan as a QB at all. Just saying he is not in the elite class of the other 3 just yet in my opinion. Not many are. Those are 3 first ballot hall of famers. Ryan not there yet. They have playoff skins on wall and titles. Ryan not so much yet.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: txmasterpo]
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01/17/17 02:23 AM
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Mark Perry
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Those guys you mentioned that are not yet in the class of those QBs with rings are still far more likely to have it all come together than ANY rookie..... History doesn't lie Who the hell is talking rookies here? All have been playing 5-10 years or more.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 02:25 AM
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txmasterpo
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I took the original point to be nothing left but elite, proven QBs....Calm down chief
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 02:39 AM
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Allison1
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This is an offense year.
During the regular season they are all in the top 8 according to ESPN stats. On the other end Atlanta is the top defense left in the playoffs and they were 8th in the regular season.
I am wrong but you can not prove it, you just believe it enough from the bottom of your heart.....
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:18 AM
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Ryan is not in the same class as the other 3 he hasn't won anything yet, I hope he does soon.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:21 AM
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The only connection I see is that they have "Rs" on their names.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:27 AM
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I hope Atlanta and Matt Ryan win it all now the Boys are eliminated.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:31 AM
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Bee'z
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Long as Brady doesn't get the trophy I do not care. I would be fine with Ryan winning it all honestly.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:33 AM
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I'm going for Atlanta or the Steelers. Can't stand Rodgers or Brady. Both seem so arrogant.
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Re: Look who's left
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01/17/17 03:40 AM
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Long as Brady doesn't get the trophy I do not care. I would be fine with Ryan winning it all honestly. I'm with you on this one. Brady's a crybaby, cracked me up when the Texans D was busting him up a lil and he was crying to the refs. Rogers is just calm cool and collected he know he can cut you when he want to. I'd be fine with Ben getting another ring or Ryan getting one.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 12:58 PM
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Ryan belongs with Marino, McNabb, and uh.....oh..... hmmmmm...... Romo more than Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger. But I do hope this changes.
Just want to make folks smile, and spit coffee on their keyboard.
If you put beans in your chili, you don't know beans about chili.
God doesn't create temporary people, you will spend eternity somewhere. Choose wisely.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: UGLYSHCTICK]
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01/17/17 02:01 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Ryan belongs with Marino, McNabb, and uh.....oh..... hmmmmm...... Romo more than Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger. But I do hope this changes. That's a good comparison.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 03:30 PM
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Hall of Fame QBs...There are only 25 of them (there's a few more QB/RB from the old days, but 25 modern QBs that dates back to 1945) That's 25 qbs in 70 years. There are only a couple from each generation. We all know Brady and Manning are going to be in. I'm not so sure Big Ben and Rodgers get in--Brees, Romo, Ryan, Rivers, Eli--they ain't gettin' in.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 04:07 PM
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Mark Perry
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Brees and Rodgers get in. No question. Great QBs and media favorites. They get in.
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Re: Look who's left
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01/17/17 04:16 PM
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As pass happy as most offenses are the last 10 years and going forward I'm sure it won't change I suspect people will have to take a deep breathe when looking at some of the numbers. Clearly Peyton and Brady get in, beyond that it's hard to say. I suspect Rodgers is still making case for himself. Brees I just don't know. I think the bar for performance and winning should be very high for the hall. It's the hall of fame not the hall of above average.
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