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If you were to build a custom bolt action rilfe......
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01/03/17 10:13 PM
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for distance shooting and hunting,
What and how would you build it?
Caliber? Action? Barrel?
Thinking about putting a new one together
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01/03/17 10:22 PM
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Depends on what I wanted to hunt, hard to beat a 220 swift or 22-250 for distance and availability of ammunition and easy on the shoulder. Depends on distances you are talking about and how much retained energy you need vs expense.
A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user- Theodore Roosevelt Broken Bow Lake Fishing Guide 2020 Caymas CX 20 PRO and 250 SHO
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01/03/17 10:27 PM
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Already have my 220 swift, spot on for a great shooter gun.
Just really looking at something out of the ordinary that will be an easy shooter that can hunt white tail and below with. Bench rest on steel to 6-800 yards maybe.
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01/03/17 10:27 PM
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220 swift. Bolt. Bull. We may have had this disscusion.
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01/03/17 10:31 PM
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I like the Creedmore, but its the "New Hot" Round. Looking for something a little more unique.
Really enjoyed shooting a friends 6 BR
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01/03/17 10:32 PM
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If I was going to shoot whitetail at 800 yards, I would look into 7 mag or maybe play with some 30-06 loads. I am partial to 25-06 and there are some light bullets for that. Would be a light shooter. But you would be back at a more or less 220 swift territory.
A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user- Theodore Roosevelt Broken Bow Lake Fishing Guide 2020 Caymas CX 20 PRO and 250 SHO
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01/03/17 10:33 PM
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If I was going to shoot whitetail at 800 yards, I would look into 7 mag or maybe play with some 30-06 loads. I am partial to 25-06 and there are some light bullets for that. Would be a light shooter. But you would be back at a more or less 220 swift territory. Not going to be hunting at that kind of distance, but shooting steel. Most areas I get to hunt are down to about 300 yard shots max
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01/03/17 10:34 PM
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Hell I wouldn't be against trying my luck with the 6.5 Grendel again, only this time with a bolt action
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01/03/17 10:37 PM
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P.O. Ackley noted that his experience proved that a .220 Swift was the most deadly caliber ever produced for deer and similar-sized game. In addition to some extensive shooting tests on animals, findings by firing two 48-grain bullets from a 220 Swift into half-inch armor plate on the front of a U.S. Army half-track. He also fired 100-grain bullets from a .270 Winchester and armor-piercing rounds from a government .30-06.
The results were amazing. Both of the .220 Swift factory loads penetrated completely through the half-inch armor plate, leaving holes approximately 3/8 inch in diameter. The 100-grain .270 bullets managed no penetration whatsoever, leaving only shiny spots on the armor plate, and the .30-06 armor-piercing bullets made only shallow craters.
He made shots on a conservation hunt to reduce the number of wild burros in excess of 600 yards. Even the gut shot burros dropped in their tracks.. Amazing little caliber, it's not for every thing, but man it can do a lot. I was summarily impressed.
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01/03/17 10:40 PM
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P.O. Ackley noted that his experience proved that a .220 Swift was the most deadly caliber ever produced for deer and similar-sized game. In addition to some extensive shooting tests on animals, findings by firing two 48-grain bullets from a 220 Swift into half-inch armor plate on the front of a U.S. Army half-track. He also fired 100-grain bullets from a .270 Winchester and armor-piercing rounds from a government .30-06.
The results were amazing. Both of the .220 Swift factory loads penetrated completely through the half-inch armor plate, leaving holes approximately 3⁄8 inch in diameter. The 100-grain .270 bullets managed no penetration whatsoever, leaving only shiny spots on the armor plate, and the .30-06 armor-piercing bullets made only shallow craters.
He made shots on a conservation hunt to reduce the number of wild burros in excess of 600 yards. Even the gut shot burros dropped in their tracks.. Amazing little caliber, it's not for every thing, but man it can do a lot. I was summarily impressed.
Love my swift! Really got to stretch her out this past fall and see what she could do at a little distance. Scary accurate round shooting 4" steel at 400 yards Also, never had a deer take a step after pulling the trigger. Just drop straight down.
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01/03/17 10:55 PM
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I would probably go with the 300 ultra mag. But I'm not a long range shooter/hunter. I tend to do most of my hunting with a 270 or 30-30 on the rare occasion I'm not bow hunting.
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01/03/17 11:07 PM
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338 lapua mag, 300 ultra mag, 7mm mag or 260 28 inch match barrel rem 700 bolt 24x scope
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01/03/17 11:14 PM
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if it's not a .50 cal it' not a rifle
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01/03/17 11:42 PM
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01/03/17 11:54 PM
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Don't know about it personally but there is a guy that shoots F class (800-1000 yards) in midland. He was #1 in the nation and 3rd in the world in 2014. He shoots a .284 shehane. If I was going to build one I would research this caliber.
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01/03/17 11:56 PM
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Define long range. 400 yards used to be a long shot. Now everyone thinks they are a super sniper and wants to shoot a mile.
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01/04/17 12:18 AM
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6.5-06 If it was a factory action it'd be savage or tikka. Custom action, stiller or defiance Bartlein barrel or benchmark probably
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01/04/17 12:22 AM
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220 swift. Bolt. Bull. We may have had this disscusion. I don't think that's the kind of details he wanted.
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01/04/17 12:33 AM
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220 Swift is hard to beat.I have every caliber imaginable and all have their place but my 220 Ruger goes with me on every trip either as primary gun or backup. Porky met his demise and died with his eyes open just a few weeks ago.
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01/04/17 12:49 AM
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Do you load your own or factory ammo?
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01/04/17 12:53 AM
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220 swift. Bolt. Bull. We may have had this disscusion. I don't think that's the kind of details he wanted. No need to expand, he and I have had a FTF disscusion on this topic..
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01/04/17 01:00 AM
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Do you load your own or factory ammo? Factory ammo 4200 fps
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01/04/17 01:05 AM
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Do you load your own or factory ammo? Yes
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01/04/17 01:06 AM
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Do you load your own or factory ammo? Factory ammo 4200 fps Not quite. Load I'm shooting right now in my swift is only 3970
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01/04/17 01:09 AM
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I have a 6.5 Creedmoor and love it. This round was designed by the guys from Hornady as affordable factory produced ammunition for long range competition. As it has gotten more popular there are a number of good bullet options from 100 to over 140 grains. Low recoil, long rang and low ammo price makes it pretty attractive.
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01/04/17 01:19 AM
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6.5 creedmoor is a very cool round and proven at long range. A 6.5-284 or 6.5-06 would be fun to play with though since you roll your own
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01/04/17 01:53 AM
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I have and have had many custom wildcat rifles most all of the 6mm Ackleys. My 3 favorite are both on 40x Single Shot actions short one in a 6BR built by Clarence Hammond and the other is a 6mm tight neck built by SG&Y, the other is a Shilen DGA single shot action chambered in 22/6mm some call it a 22TTH all have 26" Shilen barrels Jewel triggers and Kevlar pillar bedded stocks. I could not ask for any better shooting rifles. They all shoot great these are my favorites, for a new custom rifle person a 22-250 Ackley or 243 Ackley would be hard to beat. I have both and they sure will do the job. My 6/284 was the best long range rifle I ever shot, most all have Leupold 8x32 glass on them all have Davidson bases, Kelby Rings and Jewel Triggers.
Anyone needing any Ackley info I may can help if it on one I have had.
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01/04/17 02:39 AM
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I've built my share of customs over the years.
Depends what you want to do with it, long range cam mean different things.
I'd look at a 30 cal more than likley. I built a 300 Ultra few years ago, they will reach out there. I perfer the Short Magnums now days.
Remingtons have shortlock times and can be made very accurate, but hardcore gun guys like Model 70's better. I like them all.
Hart, Shilin, lots of good barrels to choice from.
Hogue make a good Alum Piller stock that can work good for a long range rifle. I perfer wood stocks for custom guns, but if you are going to use it go Synthitic.
I wish you guys wouldn't bring up guns. I had a bad gun habit at one time, I had my own gun a month club. I have two barreled action in the safe. One 300 H&H and 338 Asquare I plan to build up one of these days. Also have new Mauser actions in the safe too for guns down the road.
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01/04/17 02:43 AM
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I am a LE sniper. Been shooting all of my life (born in the forties). I have learned over the years that most 500 yard shots are closer to 150 yards, and most hyper-velocity small-caliber centerfire cartridges a.) ruin a WHOLE lot of meat, and b.) grievously wound a lot of game that was assumed to be "missed" because the animal didn't flop over immediately and die.
I have found that most folks aren't up to shooting at really long ranges, like 500 yards and up. In spite of claims to the contrary....... And if you're going to hunt deer with a centerfire .22, PLEASE..... use a heavy bullet. And pick your shot. I know a lot of people who can pull that off. And I have seen a lot who can't.
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01/04/17 02:53 AM
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Depends what you want to do with it, long range cam mean different things.
Already have my 220 swift, spot on for a great shooter gun.
Just really looking at something out of the ordinary that will be an easy shooter that can hunt white tail and below with. Bench rest on steel to 6-800 yards maybe.
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01/04/17 03:04 AM
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I am flip flopping between a .280 and a 7 -08. leaning towards 7 -08 since I love how my father's shoots. I will limit myself on pigs and yotes to 400 yards. I have dropped a few pigs pushing 250 to 300 yards with my .270, and I know the .280 gives more options for weight. I have save up enough now for an AR, I wish the R12 was more reasonably priced, I would get one in a 7-08 (I know it's not a bolt action)
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01/04/17 03:09 AM
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I have seen a 7-08 pop steel consistently at 200-800 yards. That is another awesome caliber for sure with lots of potential.
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6.5 creedmoor is a very cool round and proven at long range. A 6.5-284 or 6.5-06 would be fun to play with though since you roll your own I like your line of thinking. The OP mentioned unique, and I have a 257 STW that I would not trade for anything. It's built on a Remmy 700 action with a Bartlett bbl. I would not hesitate on a Shillen bbl either.
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6.5 creedmoor is a very cool round and proven at long range. A 6.5-284 or 6.5-06 would be fun to play with though since you roll your own I like your line of thinking. The OP mentioned unique, and I have a 257 STW that I would not trade for anything. It's built on a Remmy 700 action with a Bartlett bbl. I would not hesitate on a Shillen bbl either. 6.5-257wby is another option too. Find the bullet you want to shoot and build the rifle around it. 06 brass is cheaper and more readily available obviously but killer could have a lot of fun with this project. I like it. As far as building the rifle TCK has you on the right track already. We can spend your money quick too
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01/04/17 06:19 AM
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Some good options y'all have thrown out there
Gonna dwell on this one tonight and see what I can start putting together in my mind
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01/04/17 08:08 AM
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Neighbor has a neat set up. Sako action Shillen 26" heavy barrel chambered in .25/284. I think you would be kinda limited on bullet weights but extremely accurate.
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where will you take an 800 yard shot?
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I built a 6.5 Lapua with a Defiance action, 26 inch barrell, Brown Precision stock with a 3 x 18 Leopold scope, the scope can be dialed in out to almost 900 yards, it is a dream to shoot, at 100 yards 5 shots are just a ragged hole.
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Neighbor has a neat set up. Sako action Shillen 26" heavy barrel chambered in .25/284. I think you would be kinda limited on bullet weights but extremely accurate. Interesting choice. I've always heard .25 and .277 bullets lack selection in long range bullets. Sako action would be sweet, but probably cost you nearly as much as a custom. Unless you already had a sako as a donor.
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where will you take an 800 yard shot? A good friend of mine has a long distance range at his Pali pinto farm He's a big 6mm and 6BR guy Also has a full sporting clay, skeet, and 5 stand set up
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I built a .260 Remington (still hate that name - should be a 6.5-08 A-Square) this year that's turning into a real shooter. I did have to laugh at myself last Sunday when I killed the first deer with it. I shot a doe at 85 yards and used a 14 lb target rifle with a $2500 scope. Talk about a no drama shot!
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Defiance or Surgeon action
Bartlein Match barrel
Jewel HVR trigger
Caliber and stock are up to you, Amigo.
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01/05/17 05:13 AM
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Defiance or Surgeon action
Bartlein Match barrel
Jewel HVR trigger
Caliber and stock are up to you, Amigo. Love what your thinking brother Very similar to what I did on my last AR upper build just never got to shoot it before someone offerd me stupid money for it for what I had in it I love odder rounds that work. But still up in the air
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I built a .260 Remington (still hate that name - should be a 6.5-08 A-Square) this year that's turning into a real shooter. I did have to laugh at myself last Sunday when I killed the first deer with it. I shot a doe at 85 yards and used a 14 lb target rifle with a $2500 scope. Talk about a no drama shot! You need to up your game! Schmidt and Bender glass would have doubled the effect!
DON'T GET CONFUSED BETWEEN MY PERSONALITY AND MY ATTITUDE. MY PERSONALITY IS WHO I AM...MY ATTITUDE DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ARE
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