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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
[Re: TarponFly]
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12/30/16 07:30 AM
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Robert Hunter
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Please take a pic of the big Browns on the redds so that other anglers can avoid them. So few on here know how to see the light spots they make in the river. Even though most are very bright and impossible to miss with the naked eye. Sucks to see people standing in the middle of them suffocating the eggs. Glad to see it looks like the fishing is on the upswing!
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
[Re: TarponFly]
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01/01/17 05:03 PM
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Fishingpoleguy
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What is redd, I used salmon eggs once to catch them at the park,
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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01/01/17 05:47 PM
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Scoundrel
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
[Re: TarponFly]
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01/01/17 10:43 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Redds are the big spawning beds trout fan out in the stream bed. Several fish will use them places on the white river they are ten yards accross. The fish fan them to get any settlement and silt out and turning over the rocks gets to the lighter color underneath any algae on the top. They are very visible if you know what your looking at.
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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05/30/24 07:43 PM
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TarponFly
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Yep, still a full-time fishing guide just don’t post in here due to the haters as I can’t see who you actually are. I pretty much stopped guiding in Broken Bow due to It’s two commercialized now and you can’t get off the grid due to everything is basically handicap accessible. They still don’t stock the mid portion of spillway so there’s not a lot of fish up there. The only fun thing we fish for is the walleye. Chasing walleye Is usually not near people flyfishing for the trout so it’s a little bit of solitude. Pay $10 to park in Broken Bow now is a little irritating. But I’m sure y’all talked about that. But here is what is Interesting And the reason I am posting years and years later. Years and years ago, I developed a fly and made it my own and sold a ton of them for trout up and Broken Bow. Before Facebook Instagram, blah blah, this right here was the only place you could talk about Fishing. For the most part, it’s always been a great place to get information and help and brag about your trips. But there’s always been haters. Back in the day if you read through these posts and previous posts, you will see the hate I got for using what I called “the Near Deere”. it’s simply just a 1/80 or a 1/100 Jig head powder painted olive. Put some olive hackle on the end, and two wraps of olive chenille, and you have one of the deadliest weapons in the river to this day. All the purists in here, the fly shop owner, Sid and many more, were absolutely insanely awful. Straight up bullies And y’all should be ashamed of yourselves if you’re reading this and still even alive. I promise you the kids nowadays they would’ve quit the first week, due to all the bullying I got on this from here. Big reason a lot of us top guides quit posting here. By the way, Bass Bug, if you’re still alive, I still hold the lake record on your lake on this very fly. I was absolutely astonished today when somebody texted me a picture. This picture is of a guide that works for the fly shop! They now carry, the Near Deer! The very jig fly that everybody in here in previous days gave me so much sheet for years and years. -it is now confirmed to be a “FLY”. I bet some of y’all remember when I caught 109 trout out of Broken Bow in one outing. The fly shop owner called me and gave me a mouthful for posting such extreme lies. I didn’t give him any excuses didn’t say anything just let him blab his mouth at me. I had let that post ride for one week after saying I caught 109 , it’s pretty far out there, but yet again it’s me. So I went home after I knew the world was riled up and posted the video of 109 fish caught on my GoPro. Lol that was a great in your face moment. Anyways I’m gonna post the Facebook picture of the dude that sells them now. Go get you some! -Professional jealousy at its greatest
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
[Re: TarponFly]
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06/05/24 02:54 PM
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kdub#1
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Carey very interesting read, and have missed reading your posts. The above guide does not work for the flyshop if you mean Beavers Bend Flyshop and Professional Guide service. The above guide is often confused with the flyshop because he markets his business as "Broken Bow flyshop and also Tied 2 Fly. Am just curious which "flyshop" you are referencing for no other reason than personal curiosity because the two businesses are often confused.
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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06/06/24 02:57 PM
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TexasZman
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...he markets his business as "Broken Bow flyshop and also Tied 2 Fly. Tied 2 Fly is NOT part of Beavers Bend Fly Fishing Guide Service nor Broken Bow Fly Shop. Chris Schatte is the owner of Beavers Bend Fly Fishing Guide Service and Broken Bow Fly Shop. He and his guides, especially Jeff Preddy, are good people.
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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06/06/24 03:58 PM
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kdub#1
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Thanks for the clarification between tied 2fly and brokenbow guide service. I guess it's the beard I would have sworn they were the same.
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
[Re: TarponFly]
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06/06/24 04:53 PM
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split cane rod
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It’s amazing to me that both these guys claim to have invented the John Deere jig fly. It’s been around since the 1950’s! It’s a very effective jig. Variations of flies are ‘invented’ every day. I tie versions of the Deena that I feel are an improvement over the original version.
I have been tying jig flies for 40 years. I use them for panfish and trout.
I also have had days where I caught 70+ trout at Broken Bow. I don’t argue that anyone else could have a 100 fish day there… well, those days are probably gone, too.
JR
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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06/09/24 12:18 AM
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Breeden3
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Carey, Chris Schatte absolutely does not work for Beavers Bend Fly Shop. Also, the Fly Shop has been owned by Eddie Brister (Coach) and his wife Roberta since 2012. Sadly Coach passed away several years ago. He was a great man. Sid hasn’t been around for a long time. Tied 2 Fly was a part of Beavers Bend Fly Fishing Guide service until he and Chris had a falling out. Kit Brown owns Tied 2 Fly. Chris chose a name as close as he could to the Fly Shop to try and piggy back off the shops business. It clearly works as you can see you were deceived by it.
Also, it is certainly incorrect that there are not many fish in middle Spillway since they don’t stock up there. There are fish loaded throughout Spillway Creek and some of the best brown and wild bows on the river are hooked through there. Perhaps you mean there aren’t a ton of fresh stockers up there to be caught.
I don’t know if I have ever posted on this forum, at least not much. I was the head guide for Beavers Bend Fly Shop from 2013-2023, before I moved to my home out west with my wife and daughters. I still guide limited time on the LMF. I guided 80% of my trips exclusively on Spillway creek, whether they stocked parts of it or not. I intentionally avoided freshly stocked areas as many of my clients will attest to. While guiding the LMF, I helped track the brown trout and wild fish for ODWC. I have pictures of browns we have tracked for years on that river from 40ft hole to Spillway dam. The state did a wild trout study from 2016-2018 and verified the presence of wild trout in the LMF. It should be noted that Spillway creek has never been surveyed for wild trout, and it holds the greatest density of them. A fingerling brown trout stocking was funded in 2019 by the Lower Mountain Fork river foundation and it was wildly successful. The state now stocks fingerling browns on their own and they have moved the brown limit to 1 brown a day 30” or bigger. They also stock fingerling rainbows. Perhaps I should have posted more pictures to show the quality of fish the LMF has.
I never have hated on you online, but so you may know who you are talking to, this is Peter Breeden, former head guide for Beavers Bend Fly Shop. Tight Lines.
Last edited by Breeden3; 06/09/24 12:40 AM.
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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06/09/24 10:26 AM
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Turf Dawg
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Sorry Peter, not any fish left in Spillway. They are all at the Cold Hole bridge 😎
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Re: Lower Mt Fork River - Fishing Guide Report with Video and Pictures
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06/12/24 02:22 PM
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Golfer Jeff
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I know all of the above characters EXCEPT for Chris Schatte. Carey (TarponFly) guided in Beavers Bend before the floods changed everything. Good guy, and his Neer Deere fly was definitely a winner on the stocked trout in old spillway creek, lost creek, and the evening hole. Maybe not an invention, but he perfected a fly for the LMF fish. Works for walleye and smallies too. Kit Brown (Tied2Fly) is the 'old guy' - he has his own guide service (a good one) and is great with clients. Peter Breeden (Breeden3) was the top guide for the 'The Fly Shop' for Eddie and Roberta Brister until a year or so ago. Peter and his crew were seemingly familiar with every holdover and wild fish in the river. TurfDawg (Bill) is just a smartass but I love him. Beavers Bend FLy Shop has quite a few guides, but I can personally vouch for Patrick Thompson, Morgan Prater and Trey Prater. I have fished with, near, or around all of them - not a bad apple in the bunch. Carey has his flooded boat ramps and creeks, Kit you can find on the river most times, and Peter is enjoying mountain life in the Rockies. Turfdawg can be found fishing golf course ponds after storms and chainsawing trees in Gainesville.
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