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 Re: Another boat question
[Re: PiePuncher]
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03/05/07 06:18 PM
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Llama
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I've heard that the tunnel hulls run rough. Would a jackplate be a good compromise? I'm an avid flyfisherman and would like to be able to get up on the flats and pole around if the situation dictates.
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: Llama]
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03/05/07 07:48 PM
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kenwalzel
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You do not see many boats that have jackplates and no tunnel hulls. I would not put a jackplate on a boat that does not have some type of tunnel hull.
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: kenwalzel]
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03/05/07 09:58 PM
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SpecialK
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My suggestion for this is as always. Check out the high side 24' El Pescador. Many of the people on this forum have nto experienced the greatness of these boats. They have a deep V for cutting through big chop and still run in the flats very shallow. Less than the 10" you described above. Check them out. You can get into a good condition used for well under you 30000 limit. You can get into a new one for right about there or a little more depend on the options that you are looking for... www.elpescadorboats.comAs far as the Kenner boats, i hope you like getting wet. A buddy of mine is trying to sell a 21' Kenner that is about 3 yrs old because annytime there is a crosswind we get completely soaked. Being sprayed all day can make for a miserable fishing trip IMO. Check out what the manufactuer claims as far as dry running boats. Just my 2 cents
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: SpecialK]
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03/06/07 02:04 AM
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RBarnett95
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Special K Just my 2 cents running in a cross wind in just about any kind of boat will get you wet.. Boat throws water up and away and wind will blow it back on you..
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: RBarnett95]
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03/06/07 02:15 AM
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PiePuncher
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I have ridden in a few different kenners and I actually liked the ride of the kenner deep V. I am not a fan of the tunnel hulls because as someone else stated, they run VERY ROUGH.
The El Pescador is a nice boat. I dont believe it is in the same class as the parker but then again, you can find a pescador in our neck of the woods while you may never find a parker around here. I looked and looked and never found one. after looking for months and I ended up settling for a triton. If fishing the flats and VERY shallows more than anything, the Pescador might be the boat for you. I do like the design and have heard good things about them and they would be worth looking into and the draft on them is excellent. Buying a boat is tough and will take some time and research. Good luck in your search and I think Special K could have found the perfect boat for the situations you will be in. Also, stay away from the tunnell hulls, you will be sad when you go from riding in your tunnel hull to riding in someone elses deep V or modified V. There is a big difference in the handling.
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 Re: Another boat question
[Re: PiePuncher]
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03/06/07 02:34 AM
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I have ridden in a few different kenners and I actually liked the ride of the kenner deep V. I am not a fan of the tunnel hulls because as someone else stated, they run VERY ROUGH.
The El Pescador is a nice boat. I dont believe it is in the same class as the parker but then again, you can find a pescador in our neck of the woods while you may never find a parker around here. I looked and looked and never found one. after looking for months and I ended up settling for a triton. If fishing the flats and VERY shallows more than anything, the Pescador might be the boat for you. I do like the design and have heard good things about them and they would be worth looking into and the draft on them is excellent. Buying a boat is tough and will take some time and research. Good luck in your search and I think Special K could have found the perfect boat for the situations you will be in. Also, stay away from the tunnell hulls, you will be sad when you go from riding in your tunnel hull to riding in someone elses deep V or modified V. There is a big difference in the handling. What are you talking about the El Pescador is a tunnel vee.
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: SpecialK]
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03/06/07 02:48 AM
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I've seen the El Pescador style boats running around the bays. You say they will handle the big chop. Is that the big chop in the bays? Or are we talking about the big chop and swells in the gulf.
I did quite a bit of fishing out of a 17' boston whaler in Panama several years ago. We fished several miles off shore. It was pretty hairy returning to shore when the westerlies started blowing and the swells started running over 5'. I was a lot younger then and invincible! Now I'm a little more sensible.
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: TXSHOCKWAVE]
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03/06/07 02:58 PM
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PiePuncher
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What are you talking about the El Pescador is a tunnel vee. [/quote]
Tunnel V, not str8 tunnel hull.
I wouldnt want to be out at see in big swells in the pescador, that is why I own a Deep V. No need for me to ever be in less than a foot of water.
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: PiePuncher]
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03/07/07 02:10 AM
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OK, now i'm getting confused. Tunnel V? Straight tunnel? I know what a deep v is. I assume a straight tunnel runs the entire length of the boat and a tunnel v only runs partway from about midship to the stern. Is this correct?
So when People are talking about tunnel hulls being rough riding and difficult to manuever, are they talking about the straight tunnel or the tunnel v. On a lot of the boats I looked at like the kenner, blue wave etc, They had what appeared to be small tunnels for the prop. Some of the real shallow draft boats had very large tunnel areas. Which ones handle so poorly?
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: Llama]
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03/07/07 04:16 AM
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OK, I have to throw in my 2 cents... switched from a bass boat to a Coastal Bay 2110 (made by Action Craft) in July of last year and I love it. It gets up skinnier that you would think when you see it and it does well in deep H2O as well. The price was right too. The draw back? While these boats are very popular in Florida, they have not really broken into the market in Texas. The only dealer I know of is the one I did business with and I had a ton of problems with them after the sale (related to a trailer upgrade, not the boat).
By the way, this is NOT a tunnel boat but does come standard with a jack plate. I can run my jack plate all the way up (6" raised) with the motor trimmed and still have plenty of H2O pressure.
Coastal Bay 2110 Tournament Edition, 150 Merc. Bob's jack plate, skeg, dual trim tabs, etc...
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Re: Another boat question
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03/07/07 01:40 PM
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sags
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Llama,
If you are not against a used boat for that kinda money it might be wise to look into the Pathfinders, Blazer Bay, Kenners, Coastal Bay and the Blue waves. We fish some of the same area's your talking about out of a Blazer 2220, and have run 5-10 miles out on calm days. As said above use a little common sense when going offshore and you'll be fine. As far as poling a boat like this on the flats it would be a chore for sure the boats weight #1300 themselves plus all the other stuff. A Jackplate? well on boats that I have mention they have a pocket tunnel on them and a JP will let you run in skinnier water and get up shallower also, so it would be a good investment on these type boats. This doesn't take away from the ride or speed of this hull style. Do your research test ride them all and then narrow it down from there hope this helps some later Sags
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: sags]
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03/07/07 05:39 PM
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SpecialK
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Just to put the facts in here. An El Pescador does not have a tunnel. It has a chute. The difference is that a tunnel on a v hull boat is a larger open area cut out so that the prop can draw water. The chute is deeper toward the bow of the boat and almost closes at the back end. This force feeds the water into the prop. It also does not take away from the handling as much as a traditional tunnel. As you can see from the picture below the tunnel in the rear is very small. The boat is not completely flat which allows for much better preformance. Don't think I work for El pescador or anything. I have just been out in quite a few boats and spent quite a bit of time on these and desire to own one myself. 
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Re: Another boat question
[Re: SpecialK]
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03/07/07 06:42 PM
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TXSHOCKWAVE
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looks like a pocket tunnel to me. I dont see any dramatic tapering to the rear of the boat. They are good boats but they are large and heavy. Plus he is looking for a boat that can be poled. 
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Re: Another boat question
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03/11/07 03:03 AM
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mitchb
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I sell boats in corpus christi we are the largest saltwater boat dealer in tx.Our blue wave 22 super tunnel customers use their boats off shore all the time,Blue wave out selles kenner in texas 10 to one, a 22blue wave with a 140 suzuki starts for around 25k.
Mitchb "Standing By"
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Re: Another boat question
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03/11/07 03:41 AM
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FLOATING CABIN
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http://marshall-marine.com/ CHECK THIS SITE OUT. I HAVE OWNED A MARSHALL 22'6" FOR 2 YEARS AND IT GOES BOTH SHALLOW AND OFF SHORE. IT IS ALL COMPOSITE AND FIBERGLASS. HAS A LIFE TIME NO ROT WARRANTY. HE COUSTOM BUILDS THE BOAT TO YOUR NEEDS AND THE PRICE WILL FIT IN YOUR DESIRED PRICE RANGE. NORMAN MARSHALL IS THE OWNER BUILDER AND HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT HULL DESIGNS. TELL HIM CRAIG FROM S.A. REFERED YOU. I GUARANTEE YOU WONT FIND A BOAT THAT WILL DO ALL YOU ARE ASKING IN YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT. I CAN GET MY BOAT UP AND RUNNING WITH NO PROBLEMS FROM A DEAD STOP IN 10 INCHES OF WATER. IT DOESNT NOT I REPEAT DOES NOT HAVE A TUNNEL. IT IS THE DRIEST BOAT I HAVE BEEN IN AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE WATER. IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THIS YOU P.M. ME AND A DEMONSTRATION CAN BE ARRANGED. IT IS WELL WORTH THE MONEY.
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