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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 12:03 AM
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larry mays
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Thanks, have been doing 320 at 20 minutes will try your way.
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 01:05 AM
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Sigav8r
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I heard 350 for 20 and that's what I've been using to cure. The topic was brought up a while back and someone reached out to Pro-TEC or some mfg who recommended that temp. So I've used that ever since. My last batch of pill heads came out great and I only used one coat and cured. I did dab on UV on one batch for a "second coat" to test and didn't notice much of a difference. But that was on round heads. But they appear just as hard of a top coat. I figure it'll wear off anyways after bouncing off a tree/brush/pillar or whatever. So I only do one coat.
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 04:15 AM
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machinist
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Just try some at 5 minutes and see if you can tell the difference. Maybe if you took a brinell or a Rockwell hardness tester you could tell. Try throwing them on the ground they won't scratch or chip.
Johnny
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 02:36 PM
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Streetwalker
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Every paint I use has a different cure schedule. So what I do is 25 minutes at 375. Only reason I do it that way is I never have just one color to cure.
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 03:16 PM
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Bernie Lee
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If you have ever seen Streetwalker baits that he has powder coated you will listen to what he said. He has it down to a fine art now!
Bernie Lee
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/29/16 03:48 PM
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Skip_48
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Have any of you ever read what temps and time the guys you buy your paint from say you should use? I suspect not since you seem to just use what ever you think works. Really? No place on here do I see what some of you guys are using to cure and if you not going to do it right why do it at all?
Skip
Here is the list I got from CSI a few years ago and up front I will tell you after trying the 10 minute thing they have here I went back to my 15 minutes ion the oven and I do know where I have to set my little toaster oven to really hit between 390 and 400 degrees which is what I use except if I am using Pearl and it's way different.
Cure time and Temp for Powder Paint Recommended Cure Times and Temps From CSI (Component Systems Inc.) White*- 25 mins. @ 356F Yellow Chartreuse* - 25 mins @ 356F Green Chartreuse* -25 mins @ 356F Blaze Orange* -25 mins @ 356F Black*- 25 mins @ 356F Hot Pink*- 25 mins @ 356F Flame Red* -25 mins @ 356F White Pearl- 15 mins @ 325F Clear*- 25 mins @ 356F Bright Green*- 25 mins @356F Yellow*- 25 mins @ 356F Red- 10 mins @ 400F Purple*- 15 mins @ 356F Glow Overcoat- 15 mins @ 375F Brown* -25 mins @ 356F Blue- 18 mins @ 375F Silver- 15 mins @ 400F Gold- 20 mins @ 375F Watermelon Pepper15 mins @ 395F Watermelon 15 mins @ 395F Pumpkin Brown 16 mins @ 395F Smoke* 25 mins @ 356F Green Pumpkin* 25 mins @ 356F Dark Watermelon* 25 mins @ 356F June Bug Flake 15 mins @ 395F Root Beer Flake 15 mins @ 395F Watermelon Flake 15 mins @ 395F Copperhead 15 mins @ 395F Red Bug 15 mins @ 395F Ruby Slipper 15 mins @ 395F Baby Bass Green 15 mins @ 395F Dragonfly 15 mins @ 395F Pearl Pepper 15 mins @ 395F Sapphire Blue 15 mins @ 395F Black-Blue Flake 15 mins @ 395F Glitter Topcoat Colors* 25 mins @ 356 All Standard Glow Colors- 15 min @ 375 Transparent Candy Colors* 25 mins @ 356F Standard Glow Colors 15 mins @ 375F Super Glow Colors* 26 mins @ 356F
* These colors may also be cured for 10 mins @ 392F to 400F.............. Curing @ higher temperatures increase possibility of excess paint running off, especially in multi-coat applications.
I just got this new cure time and temps from Component Systems/CS Coatings
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
[Re: Sigav8r]
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06/29/16 03:52 PM
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Skip_48
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I heard 350 for 20 and that's what I've been using to cure. The topic was brought up a while back and someone reached out to Pro-TEC or some mfg who recommended that temp. So I've used that ever since. My last batch of pill heads came out great and I only used one coat and cured. I did dab on UV on one batch for a "second coat" to test and didn't notice much of a difference. But that was on round heads. But they appear just as hard of a top coat. I figure it'll wear off anyways after bouncing off a tree/brush/pillar or whatever. So I only do one coat. This sounds about right actually. The only thing I would tell you to watch for is Flame Red and if it gets a little darker and doesn't look very close to Orange, then the heat time is too long, but if it's bright and nice then it's fine. I know on using my 390 to 400 degrees I can not let it go longer than I have it set for or it will be very bad. I have an older version of the CSI temps and time I will look and see what they said about that. I know they had it different before. Skip
Peak Vise Dealer Tying Materials, Chenille and Hackle For Pictures of my Crystal, Nylon/Rayon or New Age Chenille Please PM Me! Also I have the Saltwater Neck Hackle and some colors of Marabou plus other things![/color]
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Re: Powder painting question?.....
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06/30/16 07:42 PM
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larry mays
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The 350 at 20 is right, my oven has been going crazy on me and I didn't know it. Those colors that some may have trouble with, try using the timer and don't open the door until they cool some. This is not a pro-tect way but comes the pro-tect guy. Just a little cool down will work on most colors.
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