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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 09:37 PM
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danwill12
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swalker9513, I'll give you credit, your 1st sentence rang true. After that it was like a busted hat band. Dan
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 09:46 PM
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swalker9513
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I really have no idea what that means, but I may have to steal it.
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 09:51 PM
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Ken A.
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I have had people tell me that the fluoro kinks and loops up real bad and doesn't stay straight. I was considering trying some but now not sure. Is this a big issue or should I keep mono? I was planning on using it for worms and jigs. My rods have the micro eyes and I was looking at 12 lb line. They also mentioned line conditioner? What the heck is that? I am not sure that I want to use a string that I have to pamper to keep it from kinking up. Thanks Buy a spool of Seaguar Invizx and give it a try. Yes, it kinks up a little worse than mono but it does allow you to feel whats going on with the bait better. I think the benefits are worth the trade-offs. I don't use line conditioner. Some guys swear by it but when I feel like it is starting to kink up more than it should I just strip it off and spool up some new line. You probably already know this trick but I never strip off all my old line. I strip about half then tie onto the old line with the new. That way you only need about 50 yards or so to fill your reel. 50 yards is a long cast.
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 09:53 PM
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Ken A.
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Also don't use fluoro for topwaters. It sinks and messes up the action on topwater baits.
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: swalker9513]
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03/31/16 09:59 PM
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Cmack
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LOTS of misinformation about fluorocarbon float around the TFF. It has it's place, but unless you are cashing checks and can afford to replace your line often, it's a waste of money. If you are just fishing for fun, why bother with it. It's just too fickle. If you are tournament fishing and hoping to cash checks, better learn how/when to use it. It's not good for all situations, but definitely has it's place.
But, at the end of the day, it's your money. Buy some quality line. Give it a try. You may like it. I concur with your opinion on florocarbon. The information floating around the TFF is pretty much in direct opposition to the stretch,abrasion and strength tests done over at Tackle Tour.
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 10:04 PM
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Brad R
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It is inexpensive for short leaders: using about 6' so 2 or 3 yards at a time, a spool of Seaguar Invizx will last a very long time.
I was always a mono guy, started fishing again when I retired and I went to a braid main line and fluoro leader for finesse applications and I couldn't believe how much more I could feel as I dragged a T-Rig or a drop shot across the bottom. Pretty cool!
This, too, after really liking the modern monofilaments, like Sufix Elite, compared to the monofilaments I used as a kid.
I'd give it a go at least once, then revert to mono if you don't see or feel the advantage. No shame in that.
Hey! And, some of the new co-polymers might be worth a try, too.
Brad
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 10:05 PM
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Gogo3417
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Fluorocarbon line is the equivalent of taking a 10 month old baby fishing with you. Way too much to worry about besides catching a fish..
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 10:33 PM
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UTDmiller
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Never have issues with Fluoro and that is basically all i throw. To each his own though, give it a try and if you dont like it switch back.
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John Miller
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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03/31/16 10:52 PM
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04champ
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what kind of flouro are y'all using that gives you problems? I have never had an issue with kinking or fluffing or backlashing with Invisx
I've never even used line conditioner
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: Ken A.]
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03/31/16 10:53 PM
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04champ
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I have had people tell me that the fluoro kinks and loops up real bad and doesn't stay straight. I was considering trying some but now not sure. Is this a big issue or should I keep mono? I was planning on using it for worms and jigs. My rods have the micro eyes and I was looking at 12 lb line. They also mentioned line conditioner? What the heck is that? I am not sure that I want to use a string that I have to pamper to keep it from kinking up. Thanks Buy a spool of Seaguar Invizx and give it a try. Yes, it kinks up a little worse than mono but it does allow you to feel whats going on with the bait better. I think the benefits are worth the trade-offs. I don't use line conditioner. Some guys swear by it but when I feel like it is starting to kink up more than it should I just strip it off and spool up some new line. You probably already know this trick but I never strip off all my old line. I strip about half then tie onto the old line with the new. That way you only need about 50 yards or so to fill your reel. 50 yards is a long cast. I back with cheap mono and put about 75 yards of flouro on at a time
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: 04champ]
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03/31/16 11:26 PM
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Outdoordude
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what kind of flouro are y'all using that gives you problems? I have never had an issue with kinking or fluffing or backlashing with Invisx
I've never even used line conditioner I don't get it either. My girlfriend fishes twice a year and can cast fluoro only backlashing once or twice every 30 minutes or so. Some of you guys make it sound like fluoro is the stretchiest, yet somehow at the same time, coiliest garbage ever created to make people waste money. And, needs to be replaced often? Give me a break, I have 12lb InvisX that has been on 4 rods that get used every weekend that is over a year old; they only get re-spooled when the mainline gets too short for a long cast from re-tying.
Scott Jones
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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04/01/16 02:37 AM
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RayBob
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According to what I've read fluoro is not degraded appreciably by UV and absorbs no liquids (water, chemicals) thus I don't change line near as often. Line conditioner helps lub it maybe (I use it) but it does not soften it or actually make it more supple like it does my nylon mono. I think it does backlash a bit worse. Having said that I like it. I've had no issues with knots (even palomar), it has shown itself to be pretty tough, and I find it more sensitive. Yeah that is all anecdotal. Maybe having thrown Trilene Big Game for 25 years prepared me to throw a stiffer mono. Still use my BG on topwater and SB applications but when fishing plastics I'm a fluoro guy. I'll use it for cranking too if I'm trying to get a bit more depth.
I use InvisX, mostly 12# and 15# with a couple of reels spooled in 20#. I also use some Berkley 100% and find it almost as good as the Seagar.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: RayBob]
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04/01/16 11:37 AM
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Huckleberry
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According to what I've read fluoro is not degraded appreciably by UV and absorbs no liquids (water, chemicals) thus I don't change line near as often. Line conditioner helps lub it maybe (I use it) but it does not soften it or actually make it more supple like it does my nylon mono. I think it does backlash a bit worse. Having said that I like it. I've had no issues with knots (even palomar), it has shown itself to be pretty tough, and I find it more sensitive. Yeah that is all anecdotal. Maybe having thrown Trilene Big Game for 25 years prepared me to throw a stiffer mono. Still use my BG on topwater and SB applications but when fishing plastics I'm a fluoro guy. I'll use it for cranking too if I'm trying to get a bit more depth.
I use InvisX, mostly 12# and 15# with a couple of reels spooled in 20#. I also use some Berkley 100% and find it almost as good as the Seagar. Fluoro does not give you more depth with a crankbait
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: TxRanger1]
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04/01/16 12:04 PM
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YAKaddict
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Make America great again by buying big game...everyone who likes fluoro I will trade you 2 spools of big game for 2 spools of sniper fc but must be somewhere at least near mckinney
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Re: Question on Fluro or Mono
[Re: Huckleberry]
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04/01/16 12:08 PM
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Ken A.
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According to what I've read fluoro is not degraded appreciably by UV and absorbs no liquids (water, chemicals) thus I don't change line near as often. Line conditioner helps lub it maybe (I use it) but it does not soften it or actually make it more supple like it does my nylon mono. I think it does backlash a bit worse. Having said that I like it. I've had no issues with knots (even palomar), it has shown itself to be pretty tough, and I find it more sensitive. Yeah that is all anecdotal. Maybe having thrown Trilene Big Game for 25 years prepared me to throw a stiffer mono. Still use my BG on topwater and SB applications but when fishing plastics I'm a fluoro guy. I'll use it for cranking too if I'm trying to get a bit more depth.
I use InvisX, mostly 12# and 15# with a couple of reels spooled in 20#. I also use some Berkley 100% and find it almost as good as the Seagar. Fluoro does not give you more depth with a crankbait This guy will argue with a Stop sign. It is a proven fact that fluoro will give you more depth on a crankbait. Those of us that long-line with it know this and will use it to get a 6XD down to 30 feet. Fluro sinks like a rock. Mono suspends and braid floats.
Last edited by Ken A.; 04/01/16 12:08 PM.
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