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Re: Diesel questions
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03/24/16 03:27 PM
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I would love to do a bypass on my 6.7.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/26/16 09:17 PM
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Larry M
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I was a hardcore Ford guy for years all it took to break that was spending $44k on a new 2003 F350 6.0. Completely left stock Turbo blew at 4k miles, numerous injectors, fuel system issues on and on I tried to pull some fence posts with it and in 4 low wouldnt even spin the tires in dirt. At 26k miles the tranny was slipping after all the run around I got from Ford warranty I trade it for my first Duramax and never looked back. I now own a 6.7 cummins due to the fact my Duramax was stolen and totaled. I was in a pinch for a heavy tow vehicle quick. If it wasnt for the cummins engine the truck would be total junk. First chance I get I will go back to Duramax.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/28/16 03:09 AM
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79Ranger168V
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My dd is a late 99 f250 4x4 7.3l with 274k on it as of now. It has 3.73 years and the 4r100 auto trans. I get 15mpg average, but I have gotten up to 18mpg on long trips empty. The only weak link on the 7.3 is the 4r100. Mine is still factory original and still good, but my truck never pulled over probably 6k lbs before I bought it at 234k, and was never ran hard, and the guy had the dealer take care of any little issue. He even took it to the dealer to get it detailed. I had a friend that worked at a ford dealer and still have one that does. They say on average the hot shot guys go 200k on a 4r100 and 1 million miles before rebuild on a 7.3 if all has been serviced well. The only 7.3 from 99-03 that has any issue is the 02-03 if they are hopped up a lot because they changed to powdered metal connecting rods in 02 and they are not as strong, but no need to worry if you leave it relatively stock.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/28/16 12:30 PM
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My dd is a late 99 f250 4x4 7.3l with 274k on it as of now. It has 3.73 years and the 4r100 auto trans. I get 15mpg average, but I have gotten up to 18mpg on long trips empty. The only weak link on the 7.3 is the 4r100. Mine is still factory original and still good, but my truck never pulled over probably 6k lbs before I bought it at 234k, and was never ran hard, and the guy had the dealer take care of any little issue. He even took it to the dealer to get it detailed. I had a friend that worked at a ford dealer and still have one that does. They say on average the hot shot guys go 200k on a 4r100 and 1 million miles before rebuild on a 7.3 if all has been serviced well. The only 7.3 from 99-03 that has any issue is the 02-03 if they are hopped up a lot because they changed to powdered metal connecting rods in 02 and they are not as strong, but no need to worry if you leave it relatively stock. Thanks, needed a good joke on a Monday morning
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/29/16 12:41 AM
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79Ranger168V
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I'm knocking on 300k in my personal truck, and it doesn't use or leak a drop of oil or fuel anywhere. I helped my friend move his tools when he quit the ford dealer, and that specific truck was actually in the shop. It was a green crew cab f350, a 99-01 model, that the back seat was converted into a sleeper. The truck had 1.2 million miles on it at that time about 9 years ago. I would go to the dealer and send you a printout on that truck, but the dealer has been bought out and moved since then. It had a new factory trans every 200k and the motor was replaced with a factory reman at 1 million miles and no telling how many hrs as he also slept in the truck. Will mine do that? Probably not because I don't run the highway in a pickup for a living. Could mine make it that far? I would think so. If you take good care of a good product it will last a long long time, but you might not be able to grasp that as GM has yet to make a decent Diesel engine( the duramax is an Isuzu and it has had its share of problems like head gaskets and injectors just to name a couple). I am glad that I mad you laugh though. Means you probably had a better day than mine. And just so we don't leave anything out, the cummins 5.9 is a proven million mile motor if taken care of. I realize many will not understand how a motor can last that long, but go talk to some truckers that drive 100-200k a year and ask them how long a well maintained diesel will last.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/29/16 12:19 PM
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redchevy
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I'm knocking on 300k in my personal truck, and it doesn't use or leak a drop of oil or fuel anywhere. I helped my friend move his tools when he quit the ford dealer, and that specific truck was actually in the shop. It was a green crew cab f350, a 99-01 model, that the back seat was converted into a sleeper. The truck had 1.2 million miles on it at that time about 9 years ago. I would go to the dealer and send you a printout on that truck, but the dealer has been bought out and moved since then. It had a new factory trans every 200k and the motor was replaced with a factory reman at 1 million miles and no telling how many hrs as he also slept in the truck. Will mine do that? Probably not because I don't run the highway in a pickup for a living. Could mine make it that far? I would think so. If you take good care of a good product it will last a long long time, but you might not be able to grasp that as GM has yet to make a decent Diesel engine( the duramax is an Isuzu and it has had its share of problems like head gaskets and injectors just to name a couple). I am glad that I mad you laugh though. Means you probably had a better day than mine. And just so we don't leave anything out, the cummins 5.9 is a proven million mile motor if taken care of. I realize many will not understand how a motor can last that long, but go talk to some truckers that drive 100-200k a year and ask them how long a well maintained diesel will last. red chevy comes from my first pickup a 1/2 on with a 350 cid. I have nothing against a d-max but im very far from hung up on them too. 7.3 is a good motor will last a long time if cared for no doubt the part I laugh at is averaging 1,000,000 miles. Sure a few make it but it is no where near the average... more like the one in a million
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/31/16 01:54 PM
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I'm knocking on 300k in my personal truck, and it doesn't use or leak a drop of oil or fuel anywhere. I helped my friend move his tools when he quit the ford dealer, and that specific truck was actually in the shop. It was a green crew cab f350, a 99-01 model, that the back seat was converted into a sleeper. The truck had 1.2 million miles on it at that time about 9 years ago. I would go to the dealer and send you a printout on that truck, but the dealer has been bought out and moved since then. It had a new factory trans every 200k and the motor was replaced with a factory reman at 1 million miles and no telling how many hrs as he also slept in the truck. Will mine do that? Probably not because I don't run the highway in a pickup for a living. Could mine make it that far? I would think so. If you take good care of a good product it will last a long long time, but you might not be able to grasp that as GM has yet to make a decent Diesel engine( the duramax is an Isuzu and it has had its share of problems like head gaskets and injectors just to name a couple). I am glad that I mad you laugh though. Means you probably had a better day than mine. And just so we don't leave anything out, the cummins 5.9 is a proven million mile motor if taken care of. I realize many will not understand how a motor can last that long, but go talk to some truckers that drive 100-200k a year and ask them how long a well maintained diesel will last. red chevy comes from my first pickup a 1/2 on with a 350 cid. I have nothing against a d-max but im very far from hung up on them too. 7.3 is a good motor will last a long time if cared for no doubt the part I laugh at is averaging 1,000,000 miles. Sure a few make it but it is no where near the average... more like the one in a million So now that you have the 1/2 Dodge Diesel, what kind of fuel mileage are you getting, and how long does the DEF last?
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a look at the American Indian".
Henry Ford
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/31/16 02:21 PM
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Im only creeping up on 4,000 miles on the truck but so far I have really enjoyed it.
My best tank is 27 mpg, my worst tank of empty driving has been 25, and almost every empty tank I have driven is 26 mpg. I got an honest to God 14.1 mpg hand calc pulling our boat with a head wind in both directions doing 65-70. In my opinion the deep/wide 24' center console is substantially more to tow than your average bass boat.
I didn't know what to think of the DEF, but im slightly less than 3/4 of a tank of DEF, which is the original from the dealer. The DEF adds less than 1% if you lump it in with the fuel cost so is a pretty non issue to me.
This truck averages about 27-50% better (my real world combined) mileage than any other 1/2 ton pickup out there other than the 2.7 ecoboost and its mileage falls on its face if you load it. If it weren't for the fuel economy I would not have bought it.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/31/16 02:46 PM
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If it weren't for the fuel economy I would not have bought it. You just lost me. Why would you not have bought it? I've actually seen diesel cheaper than regular this week, here in H Town. It would seem to me the little diesel will pay for its additional cost fairly quickly if fuel prices stay the way they are.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a look at the American Indian".
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/31/16 03:15 PM
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redchevy
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Maybe I used a double neg, not sure.
25 mpg was my cut off. If I didn't think I could average 25 back and forth to work I was going to buy another car. I feel like the price to buy a ecodiesel or any other none base motor option 1/2 ton is somewhat comparable. Im definitely saving some money on fuel, and while there are some other higher cost associated with it, such as oil changes you can do them pretty reasonably if you do them yourself. I was chaning my oil at 5k in my 5.3 and is what I would do in any other gas half ton. Ram requires some spendy hi grade oils for the ecodiesel and recommends a 10k change interval not sure if I will follow that yet or not, but will likely push it further than 5k.
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Re: Diesel questions
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03/31/16 04:34 PM
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Maybe I used a double neg, not sure.
25 mpg was my cut off. If I didn't think I could average 25 back and forth to work I was going to buy another car. I feel like the price to buy a ecodiesel or any other none base motor option 1/2 ton is somewhat comparable. Im definitely saving some money on fuel, and while there are some other higher cost associated with it, such as oil changes you can do them pretty reasonably if you do them yourself. I was chaning my oil at 5k in my 5.3 and is what I would do in any other gas half ton. Ram requires some spendy hi grade oils for the ecodiesel and recommends a 10k change interval not sure if I will follow that yet or not, but will likely push it further than 5k.
I've been doing 8K in my 6.7 Cummins. I've got 160K on the Cummins without any problems with the motor and drive train.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a look at the American Indian".
Henry Ford
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Re: Diesel questions
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04/03/16 04:38 AM
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Flooringit
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I know of a coupe 6.0s 300k never been worked on. The truth it ford 6.0 was first Diesel with emissions ford tried to get ahead of the new emissions laws coming out. It was a learning curve. But look at them now. 6.7 ford best diesel out
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Re: Diesel questions
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04/03/16 05:12 PM
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You've got to be kidding. The Cummins coming out with their 2 event diesel (common rail) in 2003 was good to go for emissions till 2008. The 6.0 if you read up on it was initially a 3 event and quiet diesel. What happened there was they did not meet the EPA guidelines at the time and in 2004 the EPA and Ford agreed to have all the engines coming in for any warranty work have the 3 event turned back which made them noisy. Back then it was common on the Powerstroke forums to hear about people having buybacks and others afraid to take their trucks back in because their engines suddenly became noisy. Ford admitted in 2005 that it had already bought back 1000 trucks because they could not fix the engines in them. I heard from several people that had more than one truck that Ford let them turn back in. Those were the ones which had so many bad injectors and leaking injectors into the crankcase.
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Re: Diesel questions
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04/04/16 12:05 AM
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I know of a coupe 6.0s 300k never been worked on. The truth it ford 6.0 was first Diesel with emissions ford tried to get ahead of the new emissions laws coming out. It was a learning curve. But look at them now. 6.7 ford best diesel out Why do you think it's the best diesel out?
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Re: Diesel questions
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04/04/16 12:17 AM
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I know of a coupe 6.0s 300k never been worked on. The truth it ford 6.0 was first Diesel with emissions ford tried to get ahead of the new emissions laws coming out. It was a learning curve. But look at them now. 6.7 ford best diesel out No way. Any Cummins is better.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a look at the American Indian".
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