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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: Txmedic033] #11409494 02/12/16 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Txmedic033
Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
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Blue, don't be so concerned about running the bow LSS ducer through a LSS module. You're putting it on the trolling motor, it's not the place to be concerned about getting great images from. With it's vibrations, shaking and turning you will only get decent/marginal images, so just stick the lss2 into the graph and don't play the crazy game that you are contemplating.


Yep but more importantly, there is no extra Ethernet port on the HDS7- Touch so I gave up that dream


If both transducers are run to the LSS module, then you will just need to run an ethernet to your HDS 7 and choose the transducer on the trolling motor. The ethernets connected to the LSS also enable you to share waypoints as long as both graphs are connected and powered on. Don't give up on your dreams!!!


You can't do that can you? I'm not familiar with the LSS box he has, but have only ever noticed ONE connection on them for a transducer.

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Originally Posted By: BlueNitro
I installed a LSS-2 StructureScanHD module on my boat to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-9T (Unit on console and LSS-2 Transducer at stern).
I was planning to install a second LSS-2 StructureScanHD module to process my SS/DS info and then feed into my HDS-7T (Unit on bow and LSS-2 Transducer on TM).
BPS wants an arm/leg for the second unit so wanted to see if I could share the module by plugging in the appropriate transducer for scanning (Console unit) or for fishing a brush pile (Bow unit) but I have a couple of questions;

1. Planning on putting a switch (on/off) right at the box. Will turning it on/off/on/off/on/off to switch Xducers possibly damage the LSS-2 StructureScanHD unit?
2. I already have an Ethernet cable (‘A’) going from the HDS-9T to the HDS-7T (to share waypoints). Will there be any issues with the other Ethernet cable (‘B’) going to the HDS-7T and same thing with the Ethernet cable (‘C’) going to the HDS-9T? I would like to keep from having to keep connecting/dis-connecting the two Ethernet cables.
3. Anyone have an extra LSS-2 StructureScanHD module laying around that they want to sell for a reasonable price so I don’t have to keep swapping transducers? (PM me)

And yes, I am well aware that the HDS-7T and HDS-9T can process the SS/DS on their own but I’m doing this to get XX% better images.

This is how I presently have everything hooked-up.





You say that your idea is twarted because the 7T doesn't have another Ethernet connection. That's not exactly correct. I agree with Grout-Scout that its overboard to have a box for the TM, but I'll discuss it anyway. You would connect the 7T to the LSS box for the TM transducer. Now it is important to remember that all LSS boxes are ALSO Ethernet switches. This means they can route traffic to and from anywhere. Sonar data also travels over Ethernet, not just waypoints. In addition to the 7T to LSS #2 Ethernet cable, you would also connect the LSS #2 box to the LSS #1 box with a second Ethernet cable. Now all traffic can go to all possible destinations.

Now, one other thing: You have a redundant Ethernet connection in your drawing that should be removed. Ethernet networks do not like redundant pathways as it makes the decision on which way to send something more confusing. Often, this results in excessive redundant packet transmissions that can bog down the network. COMPLETELY REMOVE THE CABLE LABELED "Ethernet B" between the 7T and the LSS box. It is unnecessary and may cause issues. You will not lose any function or capability. Even if you wanted to connect the bow's LSS2 to the LSS box, your 7T still gets to the LSS box via the Ethernet switch inside the 9T. (That switch delay is measured in microseconds, btw.)

When you do that, you can connect the yellow wire of the LSS box to the yellow wire of the 9T if you plan to have the TM LSS2 direct to the 7T. The LSS box will only power up when the 9T is operating. Having the LSS box off when the 9T is off or in standby will help save you more power.

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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11411218 02/13/16 04:38 AM
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Too much for me to read grin, he just wanted a LSS module so he could get better images. The trolling motor LSS ducer won't give the cleanest images like a transom mount will, that's why I told him to plug it straight into the touch.

Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11411316 02/13/16 09:19 AM
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I agreed 100% grout-scout, and didn't disagree on any point. I just noticed he had a redundant Ethernet cable path that networks often don't like. I later learned he didn't actually have that cable installed, so the diagram wasn't exactly what he had.

Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11415006 02/15/16 03:23 PM
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where is the TRIP, miles, etc screen on HDS 12 gen 3 ????
CAN SEEM TO GET TO IT.


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: SNAKEBIT] #11415355 02/15/16 05:47 PM
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Snakebit,

Look for "Trip Calculator" under the "Tools" panel.

Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11415757 02/15/16 08:46 PM
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will try to find that! LOL!!!!! so use to the old LCX25c. everything was so easy to get to and change.
seems everything on the 12 takes 10 options to get to!


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11416134 02/15/16 11:53 PM
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HDS 8 gen1. Sonar is not reading depth. I looked through settings and transducer setting says "unknown". My sonar cable doesn't have an ID tag. How do I determine which one I need I set it on? Thanks for the help. Coach


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: coachmas] #11416287 02/16/16 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: coachmas
HDS 8 gen1. Sonar is not reading depth. I looked through settings and transducer setting says "unknown". My sonar cable doesn't have an ID tag. How do I determine which one I need I set it on? Thanks for the help. Coach



Is this a transducer that came with your graph? If yes, is it a skimmer style or the puck style?

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Skimmer attached on my boat just below the jack plate.


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: coachmas] #11418705 02/17/16 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: coachmas
Skimmer attached on my boat just below the jack plate.



Now the problem is you have to figure out wether it's the 83/200 or 50/200

The name of that skimmer is hst-wsbl

Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11418719 02/17/16 01:22 AM
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the 50/200 is a good bit larger than the 83/200. I have both and can easily tell the different looking at them. Measure the length of the skimmer like measuring the centerline of a boat. From that number I can tell you which one of those two you have.

Another thought: Do you have the sensitivity on auto or manual. If you have it on manual and the gain is turned way down, it won't get any reading at all. Be sure sensitivity is "Auto" and that Sonar is set for "this unit".

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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11418775 02/17/16 01:48 AM
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Thanks. I will check that out tomorrow. And get back to you. Coach


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: jsplinter] #11422416 02/18/16 03:05 PM
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Thanks guys. Measured skimmer last night. Looks to be approx 2" long and 1.25" wide. Coach


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Re: Lowrance SONAR [Re: coachmas] #11422870 02/18/16 06:06 PM
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Coach,

With those dimensions, and if it came stock with the unit, its almost certain to be the HST-WSBL 83/200khz. The 50/200 is considerably larger than that.

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