but that's revenue... how much of that $72k goes to expenses?

It's not the same as a guy with a normal job making $70k

Quit it with all that common sense stuff!

A few years ago I remember most guides especially around Fork that had pretty steep price increase due to high gas price, and I understand that, it was almost $4.00 per gallon.

It seem like most rates especially Fork is around $450 per day full day, Seems like it was $275 for full day back before gas price increased.

Has anyone seen guides rate come down since gas has been at such a low rate?

Did your boss lower your salary because you pay less in gas to drive back and forth to work? Fact is they can charge whatever they want and people either pay it or don't. They take risks being self employed. Sometimes the risk Pays off and sometimes it doesn't.

That would be common sense if you only worked 66% of the year.
The monthly amount should be multiplied by 12 not 8.
you have already adjusted for only working 20 days per month (5 day work week--some more, some less)
so that s/b $9,000 x 12 or $108,000 per year.
average cost to do business at 25% ,,, so minus $27,000 = net income of $81,000
That is better than the median income today of middle class, not as good as some & better than others
certainly does not mean they can afford to charge less just because the cost of fuel or bread goes down.
just means they should put a little extra in the bank savings account for the leaner times.

One thing no one has mentioned and it is talked about a lot on here,,,,,the trip tip !!!!
Tips are a part of income just like a waitress.
20 trips per month x 12 months = 240 trips per year with an average tip of $100 = an additional $24,000
That just put a guide at a net income after expenses of $105,000.
So,,,somewhere between $80k & $105k after expenses.
More power to em' ,,,,, they earn every penny of it.

That would be common sense if you only worked 66% of the year.
The monthly amount should be multiplied by 12 not 8.
you have already adjusted for only working 20 days per month (5 day work week--some more, some less)
so that s/b $9,000 x 12 or $108,000 per year.
average cost to do business at 25% ,,, so minus $27,000 = net income of $81,000
That is better than the median income today of middle class, not as good as some & better than others
certainly does not mean they can afford to charge less just because the cost of fuel or bread goes down.
just means they should put a little extra in the bank savings account for the leaner times.

One thing no one has mentioned and it is talked about a lot on here,,,,,the trip tip !!!!
Tips are a part of income just like a waitress.
20 trips per month x 12 months = 240 trips per year with an average tip of $100 = an additional $24,000
That just put a guide at a net income after expenses of $105,000.
So,,,somewhere between $80k & $105k after expenses.
More power to em' ,,,,, they earn every penny of it.

I dont see it coming down but here is a little break down IMO. I figure my time on a trip is worth at least $25 per hour X 8 hrs $200. Then fuel per day just a average lets say $75 that would be truck and boat but some days if fishing is tough then just boat gas can eat that up.

Now at $275 plus Oil $25 gal we will just throw that in for a even $300 now, not that you would use it all in one day but you have to have it. So now we are at $300 the use of my equipment this is boat/rods/reels/line/lures/ice/water all should be worth $200 IMO

Wear and tear on boat should cover that IMO. Then you have insurance on truck/boat/guide Ins,guide license,trailer tags boat tags, boat ramp fees, and lots of other items. With all the above that puts us at $500 per day right there.

Just so many things to consider what a guide has to be ready for and it all cost money. If a customer loses a $10 bait or a $20 bait that is a direct hit to the guide unless it is a sponsor bait.

I know my boat/guide/truck insurance has all gone up in price and that alone would make up for the price of gas dropping.

What has always cracked me up is the same customers who fish most always hunt. They pay twice the amount for a day hunt or guided hunt and never complain about not killing.

You take that same guy fishing and if he dont catch 30 he had a bad experience. Fishing is easy.... catching is hard !

Now all of this is in my opinion and how I see some of the cost issues but not all will see the glass half full or half empty.

None of us guides are getting rich I can assure you.

People pay $1000 to go to a football game or other events where no equipment or expertise is available. Lawyers/Doctors, get my day rate per hour, now there is a issue. IMO