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Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Mr. Incredible] #11429535 02/22/16 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Incredible
I've got an 08 but not 4wd. Average I'd say 15mpg. I think your estimate is right on the lower end. The only time I've ever got 18 was 55-60mph for a full tank. That being said my next truck will be another Tundra. It's built like a tank, looks good, comfortable for all day driving, and I love it. I bought it knowing I'd get 15mpg and I'm ok with that.


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Avg 13mpg on a 2012 CrewMax 4x4 leveled with slightly bigger than stock tires. No comparison in regards to cab room in the crewmax....absolutely love it.

Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Blue Blazer 2400] #11429898 02/22/16 11:23 AM
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Have you ever noticed when out in the bush in Africa or other remote places where there is no one to work on em all they drive is Toyota's. Wonder why? could it be because they are so dependable. I don't own one but wish I did.


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Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Blue Blazer 2400] #11429971 02/22/16 12:49 PM
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I'm sure you spend more time in the African Bush than Rick Grimes. LOL! Sorry, still shocked at last night's episode of TWD. Anyway, it's too bad Americans don't care about reliability. We love to throw money at mechanics (that there is sarcasm if you missed it). I'll shut up now. flush_2

Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Blue Blazer 2400] #11430075 02/22/16 01:57 PM
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I also find it odd that the yotas you see in the African bush in now way whatsoever resemble the ones rolling around on the streets here.

Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Blue Blazer 2400] #11447829 03/01/16 12:13 AM
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I have a 2008 Tundra 4.0 (v6) i got it at a steal (family deal)and i do love it. But my fuel economy is probably about the same as the 5.7 when pulling my boat. I keep hearing about a possible Cummins powered Tundra. That is something i will jump on.

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I believe if Toyota enters the on road diesel market in the US they are going to have to kiss a certain amount of the "LEGENDARY DEPENDABILITY" history goodbye, the emissions systems are problematic.

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My dad gets about 16-17 in his 2WD extended cab with the towing package and 4.10 gears. Sounds like you can get a 20% bump in mpg just by sticking with 2WD and the smaller cab.


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Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: redchevy] #11453612 03/03/16 03:10 PM
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I believe if Toyota enters the on road diesel market in the US they are going to have to kiss a certain amount of the "LEGENDARY DEPENDABILITY" history goodbye, the emissions systems are problematic.


I agree. Part of the reason that Toyota has such a great reliability record is because they don't seem to "push the envelope" as much as the big 3 do in terms of new engine tech. Toyota is running a big V8 that gets pretty lousy mileage to get the same type of performance the others are getting from much smaller engines with 20%+ better mileage. When you start adding new tech to increase output and fuel efficiency, there will be growing pains and issues to work through. If I was Toyota, I think I'd just continue trailing a decade or two behind on tech and continue using proven and time tested components and just maintain my reliability record. There is definitely a market out there for less cutting edge(drivetrains-wise) but more reliable trucks, as can be seen.

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I believe if Toyota enters the on road diesel market in the US they are going to have to kiss a certain amount of the "LEGENDARY DEPENDABILITY" history goodbye, the emissions systems are problematic.


I agree. Part of the reason that Toyota has such a great reliability record is because they don't seem to "push the envelope" as much as the big 3 do in terms of new engine tech. Toyota is running a big V8 that gets pretty lousy mileage to get the same type of performance the others are getting from much smaller engines with 20%+ better mileage. When you start adding new tech to increase output and fuel efficiency, there will be growing pains and issues to work through. If I was Toyota, I think I'd just continue trailing a decade or two behind on tech and continue using proven and time tested components and just maintain my reliability record. There is definitely a market out there for less cutting edge(drivetrains-wise) but more reliable trucks, as can be seen.
It is not just the engine technology but the higher gear ratios. Final drive ratios in Tundras are 3.91 to 4.30. Also from all the MPGs I have seen the Tundra gets much closer to the posted numbers that the others not counting diesels of course. Resale value will probably cover the difference in MPGs over 4 years.


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The rear gear means next to nothing if you compare the rear gear as well as the transmission ratios there is very little difference amongst any of the trucks. The rear ends are mostly 4.1 and 4.3 in yota trucks the final drive ratio is a different.

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I believe if Toyota enters the on road diesel market in the US they are going to have to kiss a certain amount of the "LEGENDARY DEPENDABILITY" history goodbye, the emissions systems are problematic.


I agree. Part of the reason that Toyota has such a great reliability record is because they don't seem to "push the envelope" as much as the big 3 do in terms of new engine tech. Toyota is running a big V8 that gets pretty lousy mileage to get the same type of performance the others are getting from much smaller engines with 20%+ better mileage. When you start adding new tech to increase output and fuel efficiency, there will be growing pains and issues to work through. If I was Toyota, I think I'd just continue trailing a decade or two behind on tech and continue using proven and time tested components and just maintain my reliability record. There is definitely a market out there for less cutting edge(drivetrains-wise) but more reliable trucks, as can be seen.
It is not just the engine technology but the higher gear ratios. Final drive ratios in Tundras are 3.91 to 4.30. Also from all the MPGs I have seen the Tundra gets much closer to the posted numbers that the others not counting diesels of course. Resale value will probably cover the difference in MPGs over 4 years.


This isn't accurate. You are confusing "final drive ratio" with rear axle ratio. The final drive ratio is the multiplied tranny and rear axle ratios and is gear dependent. The Toyota with the 4.30 rear axle has almost identical final drive ratios in every gear as a Ford with 3.73 rear axle gears. This was a very clever marketing ploy by Toyota. Multitudes of people believe that a lower rear axle ratio equates to better towing performance- which was pretty much true in the old 3 speed and 4 speed with O/D trannies since pretty much all trannies had similar ratios at that time. Not so any more.

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My 08 gets 14ish with 35s and sittin a little higher. It's a 4.7. I wish I had the 5.7. I'd never sell it then.

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My 08 gets 14ish with 35s and sittin a little higher. It's a 4.7.



Yeah, sure it does.

Re: Toyota Tundra [Re: Blue Blazer 2400] #11459456 03/06/16 11:06 PM
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Sorry man, that's what it gets highway. That being said I drive like an old man. With the 35s it doesn't go if you hit the gas so there is no point. If you're in traffic I don't have any idea. Same for towing my Ranger. It's bad enough that I have made a point to never look.

*Edit* Technically they are 34.5s. (315/70/17). Also I don't have the tow package. I dunno if that helps or hurts

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