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 Re: a-rig knot
[Re: David Burton]
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11/06/15 09:04 PM
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Ok, then I have to agree with a question that hasn't been answered and follow-up... Do you really waste all of that line for a big loop to pull the a-rig through, or is there another Palomar trick? Use the snap like I mentioned above. Save time, line, and frustration.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/06/15 09:11 PM
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WillieKetchum
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Concerning the palomar....that's what we use.
You have to make a big enough loop to where you can hold the rig together and stick it back through it. When it's all pulled tight, you end up cutting off 8-10" of braid.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Rob Lay]
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11/06/15 09:16 PM
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SRitchey
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How in the heck do you do a Palomar knot going back around the entire a-rig?
I use the first knot that my dad taught me for braid a-rigs. have no idea what it is called, but if you know the name I would appreciate it.
works perfect a-rig and heavy braid, never had the knot break, I always have the arm or hook break first.
1. loop the line through eye same direction twice.
2. keeping the line loop open with your left thumb take the tag end and wrap around main line 4-5 times.
3. run tag line back through the loop and in-between both main line and tag line you had held secure and gapped with thumb.
4. pull tight and make sure everything cinched down. Here is a You Tube link to the knot I think you are talking about. I use this not in almost all applications now...braid, fluoro, mono. Have not had it fail yet. Quick and easy knot.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Rob Lay]
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11/06/15 10:11 PM
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timwins31
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The palomar knot won't ever slip because of the way it's tied, if tied properly.
I believe you, just tell me how you tie a Palomar with an a-rig. What do you mean? You have to make the tag end about 2 feet long so it fits over the rig, it's really not that complicated.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Rob Lay]
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11/06/15 10:15 PM
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timwins31
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I fish mine with a heavy snap. I'm using a palomar knot on the snap. That way I can change rigs out in just a couple of seconds if need be. There is a good idea! If you ever hang that a rig on something, you're likely going to lose it with that snap. If you're tied directly to it, you can usually straighten one of the hooks or break off an arm and keep using the rig. Just some food for thought.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: David Burton]
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11/06/15 10:18 PM
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timwins31
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Ok, then I have to agree with a question that hasn't been answered and follow-up... Do you really waste all of that line for a big loop to pull the a-rig through, or is there another Palomar trick? You end up trashing about 12-14 inches of line. . .which is probably worth about three cents. I don't really think it's a big deal.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/06/15 10:22 PM
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musiclife_7
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1st thing....don't have swimbaits on it if you want to be faster. If you have baits on it already, the arms of the Arig should be flexible enough to lightly hold together and slip a 8-12" loop over/around it....ok you lose maybe a foot of line...but the knot is worth it and it wont break. If you are really worried about losing $.03 of line, you are also too cheap to throw an Alabama rig in the first place. Just sayin
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/06/15 11:00 PM
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I throw a-rigs on 25lb p-line and use a san diego jam knot.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/06/15 11:34 PM
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Improved Clinch. I don't want to lose an A-rig any more than my other lures! No braid for me.
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/06/15 11:41 PM
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timwins31
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Man I don't have the stones to throw one on anything but braid. . .I also use some not so cheap swimbaits on mine too tho, if I lose an rig I'm out about $60-$70. . .
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Re: a-rig knot
[Re: Gregg R]
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11/07/15 12:48 AM
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David Burton
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Not cheap about line, hate spooling the reel so often and/or loosing cast distance. I've lost my share of fully rigged a-rigs too, but I do use braid. Just have been doing various doubled knots, and hadn't worked that Palomar through there.
Last edited by David Burton; 11/07/15 12:51 AM.
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