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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094487 09/10/15 05:18 PM
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For anyone who watched the video, you can hear Woody commenting on the kayak's demo accessibility this week "in Texas." If I were in town, I might have gone down and taken a look at it.

Jerry is correct: this kayak has a ton of accessories as standard features that we normally have to add after a kayak purchase. It appears to me to be almost ready-to-fish.

For my preferences, I am primarily a finesse fisherman, an under-seat storage device for my tackle and I'd be all set to go.

Brad

Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094662 09/10/15 06:20 PM
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We may have one in Dallas for a visit next week. Don't know if there will be an opportunity to put it on the water or not. Still working out all of those details. As soon as I know I'll post an invite.


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094676 09/10/15 06:29 PM
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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094746 09/10/15 07:05 PM
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I spoke with Woody and Mike at OR about this kayak. The thwart box is being overlooked by a lot of people right now because so few have seen it. There are endless possibilities with it for sure. Woody also said he was planning on having this kayak at the ACK Demo Days this weekend and next. I am going to run down and check it out. Hopefully it makes it. They were doing some fine tuning to make it even better. For those looking for standability + pedals this is another great addition to the market. It won't be for everyone but it will impress in person. I spent about an hour going through every nook and cranny of it last month. Other than the thwart box (which I think they should rename to something not including *wart) the paddle stowage is pretty cool as well. I'll try to get some pictures this weekend if it makes an appearance. I also plan to test out the 5mph speed. From what I've seen and experienced in past hulls like this have some limitations. We shall see. I hope I am wrong.

Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094866 09/10/15 07:46 PM
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And, in addition to a speed assessment, if Jerry or PayneFish, anyone else for that matter who demos this kayak, will fill us all in on how well it paddles.

Even though I rarely break out the long paddle for my 10, most anyone on the water in a vessel is usually very big on redundant "get home" power.

Brad

Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11094953 09/10/15 08:17 PM
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I can assure you that it paddles well. It is virtually an Ultimate FX with a propel drive. We designed it to be used either way.


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11095096 09/10/15 09:13 PM
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I like the way the bow rides high it will make it even more capable taking on rough water and boat wakes. thumb


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11096141 09/11/15 12:53 PM
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i put my transducer on the propeller head, just like i do on a trolling motor. works great. so far

Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: s1rGr1nG0] #11096192 09/11/15 01:15 PM
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And the price of yaks keeps going higher and higher.


You got that right... yikes


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: dragonsdaddy] #11096227 09/11/15 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: dragonsdaddy
i put my transducer on the propeller head, just like i do on a trolling motor. works great. so far


Good idea, I hadn't thought of that, to obvious, Thanks



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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Patriot7Six] #11096327 09/11/15 02:11 PM
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And the price of yaks keeps going higher and higher.


You got that right... yikes


There are still kayaks for sale that are less expensive.
Of course they do not have the capabilities or features of those that are more expensive.


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11103379 09/14/15 09:04 PM
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Pictures and report in the morning! bannana2


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11103392 09/14/15 09:08 PM
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damn it, does this mean I have to call in sick????

Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: The Black Hammer] #11103396 09/14/15 09:09 PM
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No, I'm gathering info any minute.
I'll report in the morning.


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Re: New Native Kayak with propel drive [Re: Brad R] #11104189 09/15/15 03:07 AM
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Pedaled one this weekend. I'm a novice kayaker so my take may be different than a more experienced one. I did not paddle it, only pedaled it. I pedaled it, the 10' slayer and the 13' slayer.

IMO, The Ultimate did not track well, if that is correct term. I could not keep it going in a semi-straight line at all. Had to continuously adjust the rudder to keep it going toward a set target on the bank. It would start veering either left or right; I would barely move the rudder the opposite direction and it still wouldn't correct. Moving the rudder even further would eventually correct it and I would go straight for a few yards and then it would veer the other way. It was more stable than the two slayers. As Woody told me, I could stand and press the outside of both legs against the side and I felt very firm. It is more canoe than kayak in my simple mind. More storage than the slayers. I liked the idea of the split paddles being put on each side of the ultimate.

The 10' could turn much easier than the the 13' or the Ultimate. It tracked better than the Ultimate but not as good as the 13' Slayer. It was least stable of the three but not unstable at all. I felt that I could stand and fish easily.

The 13' was the best of the three at tracking. I could keep it going straight toward a target with very little adjustment to the rudder. It did not turn as well as the 10'. Very stable while standing.

I will be purchasing a 13' soon.

Anyway, just my thoughts. Your mileage may vary!

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