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Re: Denison Dam [Re: lite-liner] #10861552 05/21/15 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: lite-liner
Very Challenging.
it's tough to learn, & takes a lot of patience & lost lures to figure out.
it's drift-fishing, just like steelhead fishing in the rivers out west.
once you understand it (the lures, the rods, etc) it'll seem totally natural.

...... only took me 6 years, & I had some GOOD teachers bang

lightweight, medium to fast action Rods in the 9-10' range are optimal to me,
but that's how I was taught. some like longer. gotta cast FAR, & work jigs
back w/ current, @ high rod angles. needs to handle 15# drag to move fish out of current
a quality reel with 200y capacity of 30# braid, & good drags
again, to combat fatigue, weight is a factor when choosing
(I fish a Stradic Ci-4 4000, but they will wear out in 3-4 years)

the weighted cork & jig setup is pretty specific in tailrace fishing, too
obviously try to use the least amount of weight you can & still cast the distance to where the fish are (sometimes honest 70-100y casts) leader length
off the cork is usually 2-5', & it can be a bucktail, fluke, whatever.
the casting weight is in your cork, allowing for a lighter, more natural lure presentation. makes drifting a lot easier, too

most important is knowing the water. If your fist time fishing Dension dam is conditions like now, expect to lose every lure you have in an hour. just how it goes. Dave's exxon is right up the street & can re-stock you.
go there when there's NO water & understand all the little islands & cuts in the riverbed. That will help immensely.

also, when the water runs, every clown with a rod & a plan is there for their share. bring patience, & scissors.

bout all I can tell you. There are others in this thread that hold much more knowledge than me. up to you to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

I'm going up there this weekend, rain or shine.


Thanks LL!!

My only concern is when using your weighted cork and jig, will the jig at 5-6' under your cork be enough length for depth??

I say 5-6' because with the cork at the tip of your rod you only have so much slack to cast...that is where I struggle

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10861568 05/21/15 06:59 PM
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My advice is to take all your gear and leave it in the car. Watch the veterans and learn. The way I learned was spending half the day just watching the fishermen, the flow, etc for about 3 hours one day, then returned at night to watch again. Came back the next day with reels, rods and bobbers. No hooks. Worked on the technique of casting across the current and working the bobber. Finally worked my way up to adding a jig with my bobber. Hooked a small striper on my 3rd cast, small, but it was my personal reward for my patience. Take baby steps and use the power of observation to learn how to fish this water instead of littering the place with broken line and lost lures.

Have fun!!

Re: Denison Dam [Re: JJ4MEL] #10861598 05/21/15 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: JJ4MEL
My advice is to take all your gear and leave it in the car. Watch the veterans and learn. The way I learned was spending half the day just watching the fishermen, the flow, etc for about 3 hours one day, then returned at night to watch again. Came back the next day with reels, rods and bobbers. No hooks. Worked on the technique of casting across the current and working the bobber. Finally worked my way up to adding a jig with my bobber. Hooked a small striper on my 3rd cast, small, but it was my personal reward for my patience. Take baby steps and use the power of observation to learn how to fish this water instead of littering the place with broken line and lost lures.

Have fun!!


Great advice!!


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Re: Denison Dam [Re: lite-liner] #10861678 05/21/15 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: lite-liner
Very Challenging.
it's tough to learn, & takes a lot of patience & lost lures to figure out.
it's drift-fishing, just like steelhead fishing in the rivers out west.
once you understand it (the lures, the rods, etc) it'll seem totally natural.

...... only took me 6 years, & I had some GOOD teachers bang

lightweight, medium to fast action Rods in the 9-10' range are optimal to me,
but that's how I was taught. some like longer. gotta cast FAR, & work jigs
back w/ current, @ high rod angles. needs to handle 15# drag to move fish out of current
a quality reel with 200y capacity of 30# braid, & good drags
again, to combat fatigue, weight is a factor when choosing
(I fish a Stradic Ci-4 4000, but they will wear out in 3-4 years)

the weighted cork & jig setup is pretty specific in tailrace fishing, too
obviously try to use the least amount of weight you can & still cast the distance to where the fish are (sometimes honest 70-100y casts) leader length
off the cork is usually 2-5', & it can be a bucktail, fluke, whatever.
the casting weight is in your cork, allowing for a lighter, more natural lure presentation. makes drifting a lot easier, too

most important is knowing the water. If your fist time fishing Dension dam is conditions like now, expect to lose every lure you have in an hour. just how it goes. Dave's exxon is right up the street & can re-stock you.
go there when there's NO water & understand all the little islands & cuts in the riverbed. That will help immensely.

also, when the water runs, every clown with a rod & a plan is there for their share. bring patience, & scissors.

bout all I can tell you. There are others in this thread that hold much more knowledge than me. up to you to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

I'm going up there this weekend, rain or shine.


You are right, sounds like steelhead or salmon fishing in California.

I haven't done this, but If i was going to, I would do my research, buy a few things, then go and watch. Watch for a bit, then jump in. Trial by fire.

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10861802 05/21/15 08:04 PM
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Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10861806 05/21/15 08:05 PM
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WATER OVER ??

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10861855 05/21/15 08:23 PM
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It does not like much going over the spillway, but they are letting a ton of water out now.

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10861964 05/21/15 09:13 PM
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For all you rookies out there. Sit n watch first lol

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10862027 05/21/15 09:37 PM
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yea. sit , watch, and learn from all the veterans how to snag rocks and go home with a bigfat goose egg.

Re: Denison Dam [Re: Wilson Biddy] #10862057 05/21/15 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wilson Biddy

yea. sit , watch, and learn from all the veterans how to snag rocks and go home with a bigfat goose egg.


lol. It happens to everyone out there. I know I lost a lot of stuff out there back in the 90's.

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10862060 05/21/15 09:48 PM
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yea, no limit on rocks either..

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It's worth going just for the spectacle. Well, maybe if you don't have that long of a drive.

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10862095 05/21/15 10:02 PM
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my go to bait this year is a 50dollar lure. Guaranteed to catch big fish

Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10862101 05/21/15 10:04 PM
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Anyone catching anything there yet?


Doug, camo hat with velcro patches, ugly stik gear bag.
Re: Denison Dam [Re: TheRodFather] #10862106 05/21/15 10:05 PM
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no genarations schedule for weekend.

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