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Dam breach at Lake Athens?
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05/11/15 06:14 PM
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Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer
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Anyone know anything about this?
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 06:22 PM
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AgSellers04
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These storms have wreaked havoc. Hope this doesn't worsen.
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 06:34 PM
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Gary R
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James, The breach is actually on my club lake, Athens Fish and Game Club. Our lake feeds directly into Lake Athens. So to be clear for everyone, it is the dam of Athens Fish & Game that is in trouble, NOT the Lake Athens dam. The water went over our dam last night, which if you are familiar with the area, that road holding our dam is Hwy 317. The problem is that the outflow of water washed out parts of 317. So the breach of the dam itself is what we are questioning. We just had an engineer out to the club, and he did some tests. He said a few things: 1. If it rains hard again tonight, we are screwed....and we may lose the dam. 2. Right now, at this minute, our AF&G lake is dropping 6" per hour. Where does the water flow out to, from our overflow? Directly into Lake Athens. We are praying there are no big storms tonight. I had Jason Hoffman out with me a week ago, fishing AF&G. We have some monster fish in there. It would be a shame if we lost it.
Gary R Arlington, TX
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 06:53 PM
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catslayer
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...YES, it would be a shame that all yalls money and hard work would be lost...
If it did god forbid happen... might make a run out to lake Athens lol
Last edited by catslayer; 05/11/15 06:54 PM.
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 07:13 PM
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Chris_K
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FYI ramps on Athens are closed! I've seen several boats heading that way. No fishing for now! 
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 07:37 PM
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Slade
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This is an unbelievable turn of events. I hope it doesn't get worse, I can't believe the lakes where all so low just a few months ago. Crazy
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 07:45 PM
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OzzieFish
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Is this by Donnas Delectable Cakes
Last edited by OzzieFish; 05/11/15 07:46 PM.
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 07:55 PM
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Brad R
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AF&G is 463' to Lake Athens' 440' at full pools, so I suppose the engineers and others will determine fairly quickly how much water can escape if the dam gives away to its lowest possible point, then the effects on the upper lake losing the water . . . and the effects on the lower lake receiving the water.
Lake Athens is reported to be at 441.90' today and that jibes with the photo showing the boat ramp and its current state.
I'm not sure how deep AF&G is, what water would remain in it with a total breach of its dam.
Some interesting math here: 1 acre-foot of water (an acre covered by 1 foot of water) is slightly less than 326,000 gallons of water. That'll fill a lot of aquariums.
Will they try to bleed off AF&G to take pressure off the dam and any more rain water and watershed?
Will Lake Athens coordinate activities by releasing water to make room?
Down stream of Lake Athens, and the effects?
Many novels have less interesting twists and turns (and politics) than this.
Brad
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 08:43 PM
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Chelsea FC
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I was on AF&G this weekend. Deepest water I saw was about 18 ft near the dam. Most of the lake is 12ft
Did those 2 big cedar tree brushpiles float into spillway and block it up ?
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 08:54 PM
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catslayer
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"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: catslayer]
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05/11/15 09:43 PM
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Gary R
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The problem at AF&G Club is so much rain entered the lake at once, that it could not flow out of our overflow quick enough. So it crossed Hwy 317, which IS our dam. This huge surge of water eroded out part of the highway, and a small leak/breach developed. Our overflow, right at the overpass on 317, where you cross AF&G, feeds directly into Lake Athens. Right now the overflow is doing all it can. The outlet under the bridge is only so big and can only handle so much outflow. The engineers tell us it is moving 6" of water per hour....6" per hour AF&G is dropping, and feeding into Athens. That tells you the huge flood of water in AF&G. And the dam is not designed, nor is it used to support this much water pressure / volume. Deepest part of AF&G is about 21' in spots, by the dam. And yes, the average depth of the other water is about 10-12'. For anyone that has ever gone down Hwy 317 going to Lake Athens, you've crossed AF&G Club. Look at this photo. What you see in the road, is actually where the highway (which is our dam) is actually GONE. This is the fear. There's a voluntary evacuation in place for anyone below this area and downstream to Lake Athens. 
Gary R Arlington, TX
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Re: Dam breach at Lake Athens?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide- James Caldemeyer]
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05/11/15 09:55 PM
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Sparlin
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Is the AF&G club also known as Jones lake on Google Earth? Never mind...found it a little to the West.
Last edited by Sparlin; 05/11/15 09:58 PM.
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