You can safely assume if they have the same spool capacity that whichever has a higher gear ratio is pulling significantly more inches per turn. Most any difference in reel ratio between the same line/frame model from a given manufacturer is going to be a step in the direction of more IPT for higher ratio and less for lower.

The discrepancy comes from trying to compare a 6.4:1 of one brand to a 7.1:1 of another band, they might not be that different if the 6.4:1 has a larger diameter spool.

If you have a 6.4:1 model now and find yourself feeling you have to reel very fast a lot, a 7:1 might be more comfortable to use, or if you have the 7:1 now and find yourself having to reel crawl the reel slowly, the 6.4 version would help with those presentations.

LOL. I guess you never put taller tires on a car only to see your speedometer is off and the acceleration is different. There are more than one factor in the way a reel pulls in line. Like the other said about a spool being full vs half full, As the handle gets longer your speed slows down but has more torque, just like changing the gear ratio. lol. Explain how you can add more torque, without subtracting speed from the system and I'll give you my next check. So no, the gear ratio in the reel does not change but the speed that the reel takes up line is effected by handle length, spool diameter and gear ratio.

Umm. Yep. I have 37" mud terrains. And my speedo was off. I had to recalibrate it. This analogy os completely [censored] backwards to how it relates to a reel. HAHAHAHA.

You are not changing the speed of the line moving. One revolution of a 80mm crank handle is still gonna pull the same amount of line onto the spool as one revolution off a 110mm handle. Lol. A crazy idea, I know. The reel doesn't know or CARE how big or small the handle is. The shaft still rotates at the same RPM as it would with ANY size handle. It just becomes easier(more torque) with a larger handle or harder(less torque) with a smaller handle. Again. You are NOT changing a ratio at all by changing a handles diameter. You are simply MOVING YOUR HAND FURTHER FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF ROTATION. You have to change gearing to effect change on ratio. Gearing changes can be with changing of the actual gears, or with spool diameter changes from line either increasing the spool diameter or less line effectively decreasing spool diameter.

Visualize it like a ten speed bike. Change gears down and you have to pedal faster. Put big [censored] cranks on it and it's EASIER to crank, but you are still pedaling faster. Same rpm input equals same rpm of the spool. The longer the crank the more the leverage. NOT fast or slower. The ten speed bike is still going the same speed (big tire analogy coming.....wait for it....waaaIiiitttttt forrrr itttttttt). Now, put big [censored] tires on the ten speed, now you are going faster. The cranks are still the same speed.
On a reel, the "tires" are the spool. Your hand is the engine. The gears are the transmission. The reason the speedo is off? Tires. Like you said. The engine, your hand, is still at the same rpm. The trans is still the same gear ratio. The spool is the ONLY variable.

PM me for my address on where to send your next check!!!

If you REALLY still don't understand what I'm saying. And you REALLY want to send me your paycheck. I will take my 7.9steez and make a video to show you that one turn of the stock 110mm handle retrieves EXACTLY the same amount of line per each rotation of the handle as it does with the 80mm handle from my Team Lews Pro.

But I want your MONEY in order for me to show you. I'm at an age where I GET PAID for what I know.


If your check is enough money, I'll even show you with a weight on the line and a digital fish scale to demonstrate that the same exact amount of line enters the spool with the only variable being the amount of force needed increasing as the handle decreases in length. Speed will not change or amount of line retrieved per turn will not change. Only force applied to the handle knobs will change.

But, that's gotta be worth at least double minimum wage type of paycheck. Lol

I'm not sure you guys are arguing about the same thing

haha. We are. He just doesn't know it. He stated that handle length changes gear ratio. It doesn't. Handle length changes the amount of leverage. Like a breaker bar vs a small ratchet. A longer handle is the same as a longer pry bar. A Handle is technically defined as a "lever" with regards to simple physics. Increasing lever length increases POWER and speed at the center point of rotation is not effected. The speed you must move the lever changes, since you are physically increasing the diameter out the of the arc. Moving your hand a longer distance.

I think he is saying the longer handle takes longer to turn which slows you down.

You're right. It's all the same. One turn of an 80mm handle is the same as one turn of a 110mm handle. Except I need you to explain to me that magic circumference number (3.14) that shows that you can crank those same two handles at the same speed since on the larger diameter handle, you're moving a much greater distance (remember??). Yes the tire reference is completely backwards. A reel is like starting at the wheel and going back through the rear end. I over estimated the fact that you would see the difference. According to your logic, your speedometer should have never been off since it's all the same, right??? Also once again, my comment was to show me how you can add torque without losing speed. (which is what changing the gear ratio does!) Did you prove that? No. And when you do, I'll gladly give you my paycheck and a few more providing we keep the details of that demonstration between us because I will become a billionaire over night when I take your vast knowledge to to the patent office and then to General Motors, Toyota, and Ford. You just re-invented the wheel.

that's is exactly right. But he said the handle length changes the reel ratio. It doesn't.

You have your horsepower and torque equations mixed up. But... WHATEVER!!! This is a FISHING FORUM. NOT A FUSION FORUM!!!! I need a dip of Copenhagen. End result is, one....I don't feel like arguing or pissing off people. Two...football is on. Three....I'm still a little butt hurt from football yesterday. Lol.

I think you should read this again. I thought he said that too until I read it again.

The handle is the engine. You putting a longer crank with more torque that theoretically you turn slower (but only when comparing maximum speed if reeling both as fast as possible)

Would be like building a long stroke motor, not like having tall tires. Sorry you got it way backwards. i could really use that check though. PM me for my address, next lesson is free though, I promise. Buy one get one. I'm a generous guy.

he was referencing the speed of the LINE changing with a handle change. NOT the speed of the hand turning the handle. The reel ratio stays the same. The hand must physically move a greater distance. But the line speed (reel ratio) is the same. The tangent of "torque/speed" and all that mess is just him trying to justify things. I get it. I guess we can both be right. Lol.

I think we all just need to say [censored] it. And go fishing. Who really cares? Haha