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 Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 09:46 AM
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Lets see, I bought a bigger boat so the guy in the back was further away. That didn't work, so I guess at least two cast lengths away is close enough, Exception, Lake Fork Everyone practices the Bent Pole Pattern - 
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 12:07 PM
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Man, it sure sounds like there are MANY times on Fork, it's just like 'bumper boats'. It's not a small lake from everything I read here and the maps I look at. Are there really that many fishermen on the lake at times?  Lets see, I bought a bigger boat so the guy in the back was further away. That didn't work, so I guess at least two cast lengths away is close enough, Exception, Lake Fork Everyone practices the Bent Pole Pattern -
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: Lee in Texas]
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10/14/14 12:13 PM
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Man, it sure sounds like there are MANY times on Fork, it's just like 'bumper boats'. It's not a small lake from everything I read here and the maps I look at. Are there really that many fishermen on the lake at times? Lets see, I bought a bigger boat so the guy in the back was further away. That didn't work, so I guess at least two cast lengths away is close enough, Exception, Lake Fork Everyone practices the Bent Pole Pattern - Yep, certain times of the year it can get nuts.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 12:15 PM
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 12:53 PM
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If someone is on a particular spot I want to fish I will wait till they move off while fishing another area. Crowding another angler is not a good thing unless you have communicated with them for permission. DON'T cut anyone off if they are fishing down a bank or point and by that I mean if the boat is moving right to left down a line don't pull in front of them in the direction they are moving by even a couple of 100 yards! Usually if someone is moving down a line I will drop in behind them about 100 yards and just give them room in case they want to back track an area. Most and I mean most anglers really don't mind sharing if you approach them right. It is the obnoxious ones that blow by you and then pull in front of you within that 25 yards that create issues. Just treat everyone the way you would want to be treated out on the water and those that are horses behinds will reap what they sow. I believe in karma and if you deal out the 'bad' it will come around and bite you and you deserve it! Good karma and respect for others will always put you on top and when something bad happens someone always will show up to help too!!! Life is too short to let some butthead ruin your day on the water!!! Besides I usually out fish them anyway!!!  That's my 2 cents worth!!!    A few weeks ago I was fishing about 100 yards from a point, one of my favorite spots to fish, and there was another boat fishing it. The guy hammered it for about 30 minutes and did not catch anything. Once he moved off about 100 yards I headed over there. Within a few casts I caught one. While I was reeling it in I look over my shoulder and here is this guy back about 10 feet from me. He said, "hey man, why are you fishin my spot?" I thought they guy was joking. He proceeds to get right on the other side of the point, which is actually a concrete "jetty" about 10 feet wide at the end and starts casting across my line with a crankbait, I'm fishing with a worm. I managed to catch a couple more right out from under him. I was hoping he would hang my line and I was gonna give him a piece of my mind but he never did, I don't know how because he was literally 10 feet from me. I caught a couple more out from under him and moved on.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: sight fisher]
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10/14/14 12:55 PM
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There is no one answer, and this is why we have so many perceived etiquette issues on the water. If you ask my dad who started fishing Texas lakes in the 70s and 80s, you're too close if he can see you. If you ask me who grew up fishing Ray Roberts in the 90s and Fork now, I just want to make sure (at the closest) we could cast to the same hole from opposite sides (meaning around 50-60 yards for summertime open water fishing and maybe 25-30 yards for cove fishing in the spring). Most of the guys on here will say 25 yards is too close, but it gets violated in every cove on every weekend at Fork from late February through early May.
Just try to be courteous. If you're not sure and someone gives you a dirty look, they're obviously not comfortable with where you're at, and it's not worth getting into an altercation on the water over.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 12:58 PM
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Man, it sure sounds like there are MANY times on Fork, it's just like 'bumper boats'. It's not a small lake from everything I read here and the maps I look at. Are there really that many fishermen on the lake at times? Lets see, I bought a bigger boat so the guy in the back was further away. That didn't work, so I guess at least two cast lengths away is close enough, Exception, Lake Fork Everyone practices the Bent Pole Pattern - Yep, certain times of the year it can get nuts. In the spring time, I have been out there, and in order to fish a cove you literally get in line to fish it
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 01:04 PM
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Most tournaments have a good rule but it miss understood sometimes. They say NO Fishing with in 25 yds of another boat while TM is down or and if TM is up or anchored NO fishing with in 50 yds.
The thing about this is the fishing part. This means the lure not the boat. The boat is not fishing. I ask this one time and I guess each director maybe different but it should be as stated.
No Fishing with in that distance.That means your lure cannot come with in the 25-50 yds of the other boat. Again the boat is not fishing the lure is. So I try and use this standard most of the time while fishing.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 01:09 PM
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Most tournaments have a good rule but it miss understood sometimes. They say NO Fishing with in 25 yds of another boat while TM is down or and if TM is up or anchored NO fishing with in 50 yds.
The thing about this is the fishing part. This means the lure not the boat. The boat is not fishing. I ask this one time and I guess each director maybe different but it should be as stated.
No Fishing with in that distance.That means your lure cannot come with in the 25-50 yds of the other boat. Again the boat is not fishing the lure is. So I try and use this standard most of the time while fishing. I'd never heard the rule explained like that, but it makes sense. If everyone followed this set of rules whether in tournaments or not, we'd probably have a lot less folks getting worked up over etiquette on the water. Seems like a nice middle ground solution that most folks could be happy with.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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10/14/14 01:11 PM
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Most tournaments have a good rule but it miss understood sometimes. They say NO Fishing with in 25 yds of another boat while TM is down or and if TM is up or anchored NO fishing with in 50 yds.
The thing about this is the fishing part. This means the lure not the boat. The boat is not fishing. I ask this one time and I guess each director maybe different but it should be as stated.
No Fishing with in that distance.That means your lure cannot come with in the 25-50 yds of the other boat. Again the boat is not fishing the lure is. So I try and use this standard most of the time while fishing. Except when you see me, 
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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10/14/14 01:25 PM
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Most tournaments have a good rule but it miss understood sometimes. They say NO Fishing with in 25 yds of another boat while TM is down or and if TM is up or anchored NO fishing with in 50 yds.
The thing about this is the fishing part. This means the lure not the boat. The boat is not fishing. I ask this one time and I guess each director maybe different but it should be as stated.
No Fishing with in that distance.That means your lure cannot come with in the 25-50 yds of the other boat. Again the boat is not fishing the lure is. So I try and use this standard most of the time while fishing. I'm not sure that I agree with this interpretation on rules in tournaments. It just depends on the situation and a little gamesmanship goes on for sure. You can be real close and be fishing completely different stuff and pattern and it be ok.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 02:12 PM
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Most tournaments have a good rule but it miss understood sometimes. They say NO Fishing with in 25 yds of another boat while TM is down or and if TM is up or anchored NO fishing with in 50 yds.
The thing about this is the fishing part. This means the lure not the boat. The boat is not fishing. I ask this one time and I guess each director maybe different but it should be as stated.
No Fishing with in that distance.That means your lure cannot come with in the 25-50 yds of the other boat. Again the boat is not fishing the lure is. So I try and use this standard most of the time while fishing. I'm not sure that I agree with this interpretation on rules in tournaments. It just depends on the situation and a little gamesmanship goes on for sure. You can be real close and be fishing completely different stuff and pattern and it be ok. I had to take a call, now let me explain why the interpretation Marc puts out is not reality and I have never seen it read that way. Let's say we are fishing in glade in the spring, in a tournament that has the 25 and 50 if anchored rule. Your saying that if I pull up on an area and drop my poles and pick up the trolling motor I can then begin casting lets say 30 yards, my partner begins casting 30 yards in opposite direction. Under that situation your saying by rule I should have 50 yards from the end of my cast so at any given time I can effectively block 80 yards all the way around the boat, 160 yards from one edge to the other. Doesn't happen, never happens, should not expect it to happen.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: sight fisher]
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10/14/14 02:27 PM
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Each situation would be different but if already anchored as another boat approaches then the angler would not be able to cast with in that distance. Like I said each is different with directors also.
Now days with phones with cameras it would be easy to take a picture to protest with if you did not like the situation. You could fish side by side but not towards the other boat also by the rule if at that distance given in the rules.
I would like to see some tournament directors put their imput on this. Everyone should read the rules before any tournament and ask questions if needed. Your numbers would be incorrect. it would be a 25 yd area if down and 50 yd area if up and anchored. Most of the rules read like that.
Not 160 yds.Respect should come first under any condition.
Last edited by Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell; 10/14/14 02:29 PM.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
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10/14/14 02:39 PM
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I'll be honest, the ttt rules which last time I fished one was no distance rules is pretty good. Everyone takes a deep breath and knows that it's a free for all and you just fish. If I had my preference they would all be that way. Everyone is just fishing around each other, nobody butt hurt. Then you go to some 50 dollar jackpott and there is screaming and yelling about being to close. True story in ttt at raybob 2 years ago a guy right next to me sets the hook on a 6-7 pound fish right under my trolling motor. Sometimes you just have to laugh. And I agree with marc that every situation is a little different. You have to decide what spot you want to protect because you can't protect it all. I truly think most of the problems arrise with guys who are kind of new to tournements and are not used to certain things going on.
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Re: How close is to close to other fishermen?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell]
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10/14/14 02:43 PM
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Not a tournament fisherman but, I like your post. It is at the very least a good 'minimum' guideline. I have never come that close to another fisherman but, as I said, I don't fish tournaments. Good minimum guidelines. I really try to keep 50 yards from any other fisherman, but that's just me.  Each situation would be different but if already anchored as another boat approaches then the angler would not be able to cast with in that distance. Like I said each is different with directors also.
Now days with phones with cameras it would be easy to take a picture to protest with if you did not like the situation. You could fish side by side but not towards the other boat also by the rule if at that distance given in the rules.
I would like to see some tournament directors put their imput on this. Everyone should read the rules before any tournament and ask questions if needed. Your numbers would be incorrect. it would be a 25 yd area if down and 50 yd area if up and anchored. Most of the rules read like that.
Not 160 yds.Respect should come first under any condition.
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