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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10021858 05/29/14 07:29 PM
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well heck guys,

I was hoping to get some information on fishing from a jetski, wasnt looking for opinions of jetskis and whats best. If you havent actually fished from a PWC then you dont know what you are talking about. I've seen many people fish from speed boats and seen them catch many fish... they arent designed for fishing either, just running around the lake at a high rate of speed and pizzing people off...lol. I've also seen a Falcon sink in front of me at Texoma because it got swamped from the rearend in bad weather. Falcons are designed for fishing. Every craft has a strength and weakness, and as long as you know whtat they are, you will have a better chance of being succesful. Again, I asked who had fished from a PWC, not what your thoughts were. So, if I upset anyone... sorry. Yes, my mind is set on possibly a PWC instead of a jonboat... I thought I made that clear in my post. SOOOO, IF you have any experience doing this, let me know. If not, feel free to voice your 2cents

Thanks,
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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10022040 05/29/14 08:44 PM
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Scooter you can fish from it as long as you understand the limitations. The majority of us that fish/fished from a ski did so in big open water. You can't troll well. You can drift awesome and you can anchor some.

Fishing is accomplished with a limited of typically 3 rods. baitcaster medium heavy, spincast medium heavy and an optional baitcast heavy for drifting large fish (cats in freshwater and cobia and tarpon and such in salt). There is no such thing as a tackle box. Most limit themselves to 2 tackle trays. You gear for the trip. Extra line is mandatory as it is easy to get spooled or snagged and all the line taken. Buy a nice waterproof Pelican box for your keys and wallet and such and attach it with a 6' cord to the front storage area in case you flip or tip, it won't drop to the bottom or float away. If you can find your ski, you can find your wallet and keys. A cooler with an elevated tray is ideal, but the cooler is mandatory. You want some cold water to drink and a place to store fish if you keep any. Unlike a broken down boat, a ski is harder to see so a flare kit is a good idea, but not mandatory. A big air horn is a good idea but you need a good whistle too in case the can runs empty of air.

I am welcome to answer any specific questions you have about fishing off one.


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10022256 05/29/14 09:59 PM
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Thanks Capt. IF I got one it would be used for open water on lakes, mainly so I could get to humps and such. If we r lucky, we will get some rain. Then my crazy idea will be converted to a new boat.

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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10022511 05/29/14 11:50 PM
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I've done it before, and it can work. I usually only brought a compact ultra light and a small thing of lures. I've also bow fished from a jet ski. I'd still recommend a small jon boat over a jet ski if you want to be more serious about fishing.

Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10024364 05/30/14 05:05 PM
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A buddy of mine was thinking of buying one to fish off of too. He did a lot of research and found some forums just about PWC fishing. There were some pretty cool set ups on there.

Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10025119 05/30/14 10:32 PM
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Yeah, I found a forum that has a bunch of Tx people on it. It's funny that everyone on here thinks it wouldn't be sufficient for fishing in a lake, but most jetski fishing is done 5-35 miles off the coast...lol. A lot of people think the jetski is less stable than a small job boat too. A three person jetski (the ones I am looking at) are 12 feet long and 4 feet wide... Same dimensions as a small Jon boat. Heck, my kayak is 12 ft X 28 inches. Lol


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10026871 05/31/14 10:22 PM
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The personal water craft (PWC) is less stable than a jon boat or a kayak port to starboard. First of all the design, while boat like, has a much higher center of gravity than a boat or a kayak. The hull design is based on speed and not balance. You are much more likely to roll a PWC than the jon boat or kayak, and eventually you will.

The issue is not whether the PWC will cross a lake, it will. The issue is lake fishing versus ocean fishing. In lakes we anchor and use a trolling motor to catch white bass and cats and crappie. In ocean fishing you NEVER anchor. The PWC is tough to anchor as an anchor equals weight, which is why I included the Cooper anchor website. The Cooper anchor will allow you to anchor the craft in 2-3' of water while you go wade fishing.

Ocean fishing is about drifting and trolling under speed. The PWC is great for drifting and great for trolling a dive bait as the low speed impeller allows the PWC to move slowly and not worry about catching a line around a prop. As ocean waves are a given at 2' as a minimum opposed to lake waves which are typically less than 1'. The PWC handles oceans waves better as it is a CLOSED craft meaning it doesn't really take on water, water washes over it where a jon boat or unsealed kayak can get filled and risk sinking. The jon boat and kayak puts the operators head typically less than 36" above the waterline. This presents a visibility issue especially on the ocean and therefore a PWC allows the operator to see farther above waves as well as be seen farther.

The PWC is much tougher to steer in a straight line at low speed as water movement may exceed the craft's movement and therefore it will fishtail more at low speed. The jon boat will steer better at low speed when compared.

I owned a 3-person Sea Doo GTI 130. Great little craft and had the Intelligent Brake and Reverse and was top notch. It fished well in coastal bays and larger bodies of water to drift fish. It was horrible to fish from in lakes unless you intend to drift fish it. I sold mine to a guy on the coast that only drift fishes.

The PWC requires 36" of water under it to operate. A kayak or jon will operate in less than 12' of water as it doesn't require sufficient water to suck through the impeller. A kayak and jon boat and even my 21' Nautic Star work better in less water than the PWC.

A new PWC like the GTI 130 with trailer will run 8,500.00 plus then if you set it up for fishing with a larger battery and fishfinder/GPS will cost 900.00 and then a simple gear rack or a custom rack that holds a cooler and rod holder and such will cost 2000.00. Said and done, you are at 11,400.00 and fishing. For that, you could have a really nice little boat you will like more.

I understand you want to fish off a PWC, and you will probably love it, but understand going in that it is not a lake fishing craft. It is an ocean bay fishing craft.

You won't be heading out to a spot parking and fishing a hump. You won't have many friends by pulling into a group and fishing with the motor running while everyone else is on trolling motor. Be sure and wear long pants and long sleeve shirt and a buff with your hat, you'll fry as there is no way to get cover and you are in the same position the entire time. Sunscreen causes controls to become slippery. Spend the 150.00 on a micro PFD and attach all your fishing tools to the vest with bungee coils otherwise they go overboard in the first 5 minutes.


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10028480 06/01/14 07:18 PM
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Hey Scooter -

I found my micro fishing PFD was still hanging in my garage. I will send you a pic if you are interested in buying it. Excellent shape and tools attached.


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10028904 06/01/14 11:01 PM
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PWC not legal on the water at night?

Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: Capt Craig] #10029213 06/02/14 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: Capt Craig's Guide Service
The personal water craft (PWC) is less stable than a jon boat or a kayak port to starboard. First of all the design, while boat like, has a much higher center of gravity than a boat or a kayak. The hull design is based on speed and not balance. You are much more likely to roll a PWC than the jon boat or kayak, and eventually you will.

The issue is not whether the PWC will cross a lake, it will. The issue is lake fishing versus ocean fishing. In lakes we anchor and use a trolling motor to catch white bass and cats and crappie. In ocean fishing you NEVER anchor. The PWC is tough to anchor as an anchor equals weight, which is why I included the Cooper anchor website. The Cooper anchor will allow you to anchor the craft in 2-3' of water while you go wade fishing.

Ocean fishing is about drifting and trolling under speed. The PWC is great for drifting and great for trolling a dive bait as the low speed impeller allows the PWC to move slowly and not worry about catching a line around a prop. As ocean waves are a given at 2' as a minimum opposed to lake waves which are typically less than 1'. The PWC handles oceans waves better as it is a CLOSED craft meaning it doesn't really take on water, water washes over it where a jon boat or unsealed kayak can get filled and risk sinking. The jon boat and kayak puts the operators head typically less than 36" above the waterline. This presents a visibility issue especially on the ocean and therefore a PWC allows the operator to see farther above waves as well as be seen farther.

The PWC is much tougher to steer in a straight line at low speed as water movement may exceed the craft's movement and therefore it will fishtail more at low speed. The jon boat will steer better at low speed when compared.

I owned a 3-person Sea Doo GTI 130. Great little craft and had the Intelligent Brake and Reverse and was top notch. It fished well in coastal bays and larger bodies of water to drift fish. It was horrible to fish from in lakes unless you intend to drift fish it. I sold mine to a guy on the coast that only drift fishes.

The PWC requires 36" of water under it to operate. A kayak or jon will operate in less than 12' of water as it doesn't require sufficient water to suck through the impeller. A kayak and jon boat and even my 21' Nautic Star work better in less water than the PWC.

A new PWC like the GTI 130 with trailer will run 8,500.00 plus then if you set it up for fishing with a larger battery and fishfinder/GPS will cost 900.00 and then a simple gear rack or a custom rack that holds a cooler and rod holder and such will cost 2000.00. Said and done, you are at 11,400.00 and fishing. For that, you could have a really nice little boat you will like more.

I understand you want to fish off a PWC, and you will probably love it, but understand going in that it is not a lake fishing craft. It is an ocean bay fishing craft.

You won't be heading out to a spot parking and fishing a hump. You won't have many friends by pulling into a group and fishing with the motor running while everyone else is on trolling motor. Be sure and wear long pants and long sleeve shirt and a buff with your hat, you'll fry as there is no way to get cover and you are in the same position the entire time. Sunscreen causes controls to become slippery. Spend the 150.00 on a micro PFD and attach all your fishing tools to the vest with bungee coils otherwise they go overboard in the first 5 minutes.




Well, don't know about anyone else but you've convinced me!....Well said!


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10030098 06/02/14 01:55 PM
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This is a Stohlquist PFD. The model is Drifter. I have included a link to photos of it. It is cut to give plenty of mobility in the shoulders to cast while wearing it, since by law you really aren't supposed to remove it while on the PWC. The back is cut to not ride your hips in case you wear it in a kayak. Attach your PWC kill switch directly to the jacket and not your arm. There is a whistle attached to the jacket for emergencies. and I use flyfishing retainers to hold forceps and scissors and such. Straps to allow air movement around your body. Zip pockets for whatever. The jacket sells for 130.00 and I have a few extras on it. I would sell it to you for 100.00 it is just like new.

http://s1374.photobucket.com/user/captcraig2/library/Stohlquist?sort=3&page=1

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The Drifter offers all day comfort, along with ample, easy to access, storage.
The ergonomic WRAPTURE shaped torso wraps around the body for a close
& low profile fit. The Cross-Chest Cinch Harness keeps flotation elements low
on the torso, eliminating ride-up while providing more effective in water buoyancy.

Ergonomic WRAPTURE shaped torso
Two large zippered pockets for easy accessibility & storage
Fleece lined hand warmer pockets
Ventilated shoulder and lumbar pads
Hand beveled foam for a close, more comfortable fit
Cross-chest Cinch harness eliminates ride-up
Extra wide armholes for maximum mobility
Key bungee inside front pocket.
1 webbing belt, with forward pulls for a trim and secure fit
4-way accessory lash tabs located on chest and back shoulder
3M reflective trim on both front and back
Type III PFD with sea level buoyancy of 16 lbs. 10 oz.
USCG and Transport Canada approved


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Re: Who fishes from a jetski? [Re: 79scooter] #10030199 06/02/14 02:24 PM
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We have a guy out here who fishes from one quite a bit. Two years ago, He was trolling around a flat, we could see him but he was a ways off. All of the sudden we heard him screaming and waving. We pulled our lines and went to see what was up. He had a magnum Rattletrap buried deep in his leg, attached to it was a thrashing 6 pound hybrid. He was white, shaking and puking. We took the fish off (he wanted it of course) and pulled the hooks. One of the worst hookings I have ever seen.....

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i just started this year. i bought 2 three seat waverunners, put a quantum cooler rack on one to put fish in and to carry rods, also mounted an hds 5 and eagle gps. so far i really like it. my son and i had a blast catching sandbass at rc. you will lose a lot of fish just trying to get them off the hook and in the cooler, no place to set anything down. you do need an anchor and a net. you also need to wear kayak type clothing. i have a 19 ft bluewave center console boat that i am going to sell because for me the waverunner is more practicle. it is easy to tow, easy to launch and cheap on fuel. you can go anywhere a boat can go and a lot of places they cant. check out quantum products on ebay, they sell a great cooler rack that has 6 rodholders on it. if i can help you in any way, let me know. good luck. BOZZ

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that should be platinum products for the jetski cooler rack. sorry .. BOZZ

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I love fishing off my jetski.I would go to greenhulk.net and go to their fishing section.that's where I got the plans to do my fishing rack. Great site for anything to do with jet skis!


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