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Re: Putin to March on Poland - Poll [Re: Hard Rain] #15057570 04/26/24 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hard Rain
Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
Putin's gonna try to put the band back together to a point... He doesn't want USA direct involvement (boots on the ground) because he knows he can't win that war. So if he can take Ukraine he'll continue to try to pick off the weak former Soviet satellite nations... But he ain't gonna start a march across Europe... Dan


I agree with this scenario. Putin is not an idiot although he badly miscalculated in Ukraine. He is not going to attack NATO countries and start WW3.

Agree with you both.

Re: Putin to March on Poland - Poll [Re: Jpurdue] #15057596 04/26/24 08:53 PM
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Sometimes you get to an age where you just donโ€™t give AF.
He was at that age five years ago.
He will be taken out by one of his own.


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Re: Putin to March on Poland - Poll [Re: Jpurdue] #15057602 04/26/24 09:04 PM
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Yes. roflmao

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Re: Putin to March on Poland - Poll [Re: WAWI] #15057674 04/26/24 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
Nope, everyone thinks we are bleeding the Russians out with ukraine support. What is happening is Russia is bleeding us out. We are the cat and he has one of those little laser lights. Evertime he points it at something we throw 100 billion there. It's wearing out the American public. He is more than happy to sit over there and be rich, watch our train wreck and have another shot of vodka. An all out war with Nato would interfere with his good time.

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Originally Posted by Duke 22
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Nope, everyone thinks we are bleeding the Russians out with ukraine support. What is happening is Russia is bleeding us out. We are the cat and he has one of those little laser lights. Evertime he points it at something we throw 100 billion there. It's wearing out the American public. He is more than happy to sit over there and be rich, watch our train wreck and have another shot of vodka. An all out war with Nato would interfere with his good time.

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Dead on. The petroleum reserve is empty. We have severe munition shortages and our military has been decimated. We're at the weakest point in my lifetime.


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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
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Nope, everyone thinks we are bleeding the Russians out with ukraine support. What is happening is Russia is bleeding us out. We are the cat and he has one of those little laser lights. Evertime he points it at something we throw 100 billion there. It's wearing out the American public. He is more than happy to sit over there and be rich, watch our train wreck and have another shot of vodka. An all out war with Nato would interfere with his good time.

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Dead on. The petroleum reserve is empty. We have severe munition shortages and our military has been decimated. We're at the weakest point in my lifetime.


Let's add that it's pretty clear Americans have a short attention span as far as war goes, 20 years in the gulf, I think as a country we just want some peace and quiet. The whole idea that Russia is going after Poland or whoever is just a really good trick to keep the ball bouncing and the money flowing. Create some boogie man across the world as a rally cry to get the masses riled up. Governments have been playing that trick on the governed for 1000s of years.

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Originally Posted by Duke 22
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Nope, everyone thinks we are bleeding the Russians out with ukraine support. What is happening is Russia is bleeding us out. We are the cat and he has one of those little laser lights. Evertime he points it at something we throw 100 billion there. It's wearing out the American public. He is more than happy to sit over there and be rich, watch our train wreck and have another shot of vodka. An all out war with Nato would interfere with his good time.

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Russia's defense budget is normally $80b. Its been spending that per year for the war.
Their population is smaller, their market is smaller but they came in better financially.

We have given $75b to the effort before approving this last go round? If so its hard to make the case that we are in trouble. Russia is not now capable of starting any type of large campaign and Poland is a pipe dream. If they tried they would leave mother Russia exposed.


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I think Poland would whip their arse.


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I think Poland would whip their arse.


I have not thought about it since the possibility is so narrow but if Russia tried they would have to cross Belarus and/or Lithuania. Of course UKR is in between them but they'd have to win there first.

A small enclosed but for the ocean part of Russia is Kaliningrad Oblast. Its the only access they have to the Baltic Sea that does not freeze up in the winter.
If Russia attacked I would think the first thing Poland would do is seize Kaliningrad.


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Sadly, we are so far in debt, $33 trillion or whatever it is, that $100 billion is no big deal. If we are $33 trillion in debt, adding $100 billion makes it $33.1 trillion in debt. That's an illustration of how ridiculously far we are in debt.

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