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Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Mark Perry] #15054932 04/23/24 04:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2023 Posts: 1,335 Central Minnesota N nfhbass Extreme Angler
nfhbass Extreme Angler N Joined: Nov 2023 Posts: 1,335 Central Minnesota	Originally Posted by Mark Perry If your boat is "heavy" it sounds like you might just be spending a lot just to get an extra couple mph out of it. Do you like fishing or boating more? Look at it from that poi t of view then proceed how you feel best. This is good advice Mark, treat yourself to a nice combo over a flash, chip, turbo, or whatever. Maybe a new prop…

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Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dad2rlkm] #15055027 04/23/24 06:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,610 Fort Worth H HookaToad Extreme Angler
HookaToad Extreme Angler H Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,610 Fort Worth	From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. Good Fishing and God Bless “I’d rather be a failure at something I enjoy than to be a success at something I hate”

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: hopalong] #15055168 04/23/24 09:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa... S SteezMacQueen TFF Guru
SteezMacQueen TFF Guru S Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...	Originally Posted by hopalong I asked multiple directors about this when I had my 175 fast strike, it put out 225 at the prop after monty racing worked it over. you can do what you want as long as it was at or below your max. hp. rating from the factory. no difference between flashing one, nizpro, internal mods. all are legal according to them. look at your boat rating, my 95 champion 202 says "any V6" for hp rating and I now have a 300 yamaha on back. I’ve asked a LOT of people this same thing. I get a wildly different answer from some. I was told a similar story to your response the most. Yes…I have a complete Nizpro tuner kit for my motor. It is a 150SHO that when flashed, it is a 231HP motor. There is only two ways to tell when I have it flashed. Instead of my 22 Temoest Plus, I will have a 25 Tempest Plus and instead of it being a 60mph boat, it is a 78mph boat. Sounds the same (if I keep the rpm’s below 6200), looks the same, it even has 100% factory original hardware. It’s software change. If Yamaha can’t tell it’s flashed, how would anyone at a weigh in tell? It takes 5 minutes ands prop swap to go between the two. Eat. Sleep. Fish.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: HookaToad] #15055171 04/23/24 09:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa... S SteezMacQueen TFF Guru
SteezMacQueen TFF Guru S Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...	Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? Eat. Sleep. Fish.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: SteezMacQueen] #15055172 04/23/24 09:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,153 southwest georgia USA B beartrap TFF Celebrity
beartrap TFF Celebrity B Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,153 southwest georgia USA	Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? polygraph....

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: beartrap] #15055181 04/23/24 09:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa... S SteezMacQueen TFF Guru
SteezMacQueen TFF Guru S Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...	Originally Posted by beartrap Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? polygraph.... Yeh. I guess there is that. May work, may not. We all know they can be defeated. Eat. Sleep. Fish.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dad2rlkm] #15055196 04/23/24 09:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,022 Amarillo F fishnfireman Extreme Angler
fishnfireman Extreme Angler F Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,022 Amarillo	Starting to see a pattern here.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dad2rlkm] #15055479 04/24/24 04:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,610 Fort Worth H HookaToad Extreme Angler
HookaToad Extreme Angler H Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,610 Fort Worth	what does "flashed" mean? Good Fishing and God Bless “I’d rather be a failure at something I enjoy than to be a success at something I hate”

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dad2rlkm] #15055493 04/24/24 05:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 36,632 Grand Prairie, Tx Allison1 TFF Guru
Allison1 TFF Guru Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 36,632 Grand Prairie, Tx	Bassmasters Quote Changing or altering standard factory parts of a competitor’s engine to increase the horsepower over the factory horsepower rating, is forbidden and will result in disqualification. MLF does not say anything about altered motors, just that the horsepower may not exceed the CG certification plate horsepower or 250 hp max. BassChamps says no horsepower limit but it can't be more than the certification plate. When I first bought my boat FLW would not allow my boat in a tournament if it was over 150 hp. Same with BASS before I bought my boat, since I fished a tournament at Rayburn and a guy from Colorado brought his XB2003 with a 225 Evinrude. Thats why I took my motor off when I first bought it and put a 150 Opti on it. Ken A called it a trolling motor.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Allison1] #15055494 04/24/24 05:39 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,629 here and there S Smurfs TFF Celebrity
Smurfs TFF Celebrity S Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 8,629 here and there	Originally Posted by Allison1 Bassmasters Quote Changing or altering standard factory parts of a competitor’s engine to increase the horsepower over the factory horsepower rating, is forbidden and will result in disqualification. MLF does not say anything about altered motors, just that the horsepower may not exceed the CG certification plate horsepower or 250 hp max. BassChamps says no horsepower limit but it can't be more than the certification plate. When I first bought my boat FLW would not allow my boat in a tournament if it was over 150 hp. Same with BASS before I bought my boat, since I fished a tournament at Rayburn and a guy from Colorado brought his XB2003 with a 225 Evinrude. Thats why I took my motor off when I first bought it and put a 150 Opti on it. Ken A called it a trolling motor. oh look, its last word, I'm right your wrong POS!

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Allison1] #15055510 04/24/24 10:04 AM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 12,295 San Angelo tmd11111 TFF Guru
tmd11111 TFF Guru Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 12,295 San Angelo	Originally Posted by Allison1 Bassmasters Quote Changing or altering standard factory parts of a competitor’s engine to increase the horsepower over the factory horsepower rating, is forbidden and will result in disqualification. MLF does not say anything about altered motors, just that the horsepower may not exceed the CG certification plate horsepower or 250 hp max. BassChamps says no horsepower limit but it can't be more than the certification plate. When I first bought my boat FLW would not allow my boat in a tournament if it was over 150 hp. Same with BASS before I bought my boat, since I fished a tournament at Rayburn and a guy from Colorado brought his XB2003 with a 225 Evinrude. Thats why I took my motor off when I first bought it and put a 150 Opti on it. Ken A called it a trolling motor.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: SteezMacQueen] #15055514 04/24/24 10:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,297 Godley Tx D Dubee TFF Celebrity
Dubee TFF Celebrity D Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 5,297 Godley Tx	Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? If someone is willing to violate one rule then they are willing to violate all the rules. I would never do it to my engine because I'm not a cheater

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dubee] #15055553 04/24/24 11:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 16,245 Spotlightin’ bass G grout-scout TFF Guru
grout-scout TFF Guru G Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 16,245 Spotlightin’ bass	Originally Posted by Dubee Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? If someone is willing to violate one rule then they are willing to violate all the rules. I would never do it to my engine because I'm not a cheater Yep, rules are rules.

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: Dad2rlkm] #15055560 04/24/24 12:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,073 NETX O ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50) TFF Team Angler
ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50) TFF Team Angler O Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,073 NETX	Another thing you may need to consider is you boat insurance as well. Before I did it I'd talk to my agent for sure. If the motor has a Nizpro mod of any kind and it can be proven and you are in an accident on the water they might not pay. That wouldn't be good........ 2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s

Re: Tournament Rules on Max HP [Re: grout-scout] #15055564 04/24/24 12:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa... S SteezMacQueen TFF Guru
SteezMacQueen TFF Guru S Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 23,541 Red Oak, Galveston, and Pagosa...	Originally Posted by grout-scout Originally Posted by Dubee Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen Originally Posted by HookaToad From the Texas Bass Nation North Central Region rules: "8. BOATS & MOTORS: All boats and motors must meet U.S. Coast Guard and State regulations. No motor shall exceed the BIA rating for that boat. The maximum horsepower allowed for any contestant’s boat will be 250 hp. Minimum boat length for any contestant’s boat is 16 ft. ..." From the Texas Bass Nation Open Team Trail rules: 5. BOAT, BASIC BOAT EQUIPMENT, MOTOR and SAFETY: • The maximum outboard engine horsepower for any boats used during practice and tournament hours is 250 HP. How would you enforce this rule? Seriously. How? Can you tell by looking and listening. If a manufacturer cannot tell if a motor is flashed, how can anyone else tell? If someone is willing to violate one rule then they are willing to violate all the rules. I would never do it to my engine because I'm not a cheater Yep, rules are rules. I agree. How do you enforce this rule? Honor system? Eat. Sleep. Fish.

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