The same people who are pushing new world order, are the same people pushing de populating the earth, are the same people pushing global warming. And they've created a whole new population of useful idiots to help them achieve their goals.

You obviously have a black belt in dumb.

You went full lemming.
You never want to go full lemming.

NOT ONE person is advocating dirty air and water. This is a fishing site, remember? We all like to catch fish, eat fish, not one of us want to fish in a toilet. But you went there, didn't you?

I grew up in Houston, in the sixties. It wasn't nice. Now it's much nicer even with 3X the people. Not great, nicer. The bayous don't burn, there's no oil sheen on the bay, it's nicer.

Has NOTHING to do whatsoever with this discussion, but you had to go there, so let's really go there.

Let's start with your biggest lies. CO2 causes temperatures to rise. Over and over you bludgeon anyone who'll read, that's your chant, you never vary. IF that were indeed a fact, then there's no way possible the earth could possibly be cooling when the CO2 level has risen to *doomsday* levels. So, you want to start there?

EV's are going to save the world from fossil fuels and pollution. Almost, really close to as big a lie as your previous big lie. The only result will be forcing you to take government transportation. From your government dwelling to your government job. You'll have nothing and like it. My third grade grandaughter can take the regulations, the bills, and the rhetoric being put out by your heros in charge. There is no other logical end besides that. If you take the BTU's required to power the number of vehicles today, and equate that to BTU's required of the power grid, they have to triple the amount of energy produced to even start thinking about this being possible. But they aren't. Because that's not the end game.

Where's you went off the rails, we went from cleaning up known pollution, land, water and air. Did actually an outstanding job, and now they are chasing a ghost that is at best meaningless. Because it's got nothing to do with pollution, and everything to do with control and power.

I expect no answer, because you're not capable of one. But if you do, the next answers are not going to be pretty.

deflecting the conversation is the only way you ever reply . You fail to address root cause issues every time .
The root cause issue with " climate change " ---- is that it's a political issue to take your money by taxing Americans , telling the world we are the problem , then taking that money and making highly connected people rich ---- It's a lie and it is provable . I posted the original comment --- 8 years and 5 months of factual declining temps and you 100% argued the data . with your worthless opinion and biased charts .
What would happen if the 8year and 5 months --- continued for another 80 years and 5 months ???? Would we be screaming " Ice age , Ice age , Ice age ??? The answer is yes if the people in charge can make money off it .
3 Billion people on this planet heat their homes with wood and dung ---- how come they never talk about that pollution ???? You know why --- they can't extract money from them -- they are poor .
Try to get smarter and stop letting your TDS rule your brain

You obviously have a black belt in dumb.

you actually think Pat is dumb ?? Too funny --- if you think he's dumb , then your on a scale with snails , just leaving a trail behind you ---worthless from day 1