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Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: bbqking] #14574299 12/24/22 04:04 PM
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Master Bathroom. Cold water seems to be starting to run faster. However Hot water is slowly flowing but there is NO hot/warm water coming out. Water heating is working, hot water2nd bath and kitchen works fine. Just the furthest from the source. SO, if water is coming out of hot water faucet but cold, what is that indicating? If it was burst, there would be NO flow, will the hot water eventually start flowing? We are running those constantly now.

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: TexDawg] #14574394 12/24/22 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TexDawg
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A second house in our subdivision has busted something, house catty corner to us has ice all over the place. Feel sorry for them, the lady moved in over the summer


Why feel sorry?

Run all your fixtures with hot and cold water, It wasn't like this was a surprise record cold, or the one in Febraury 2021.

Unless your eledery then it's your own fault for frozen pipes in residential house, the news and all media outlets said to run your fixtures.




Cause it’s Christmas and she lives by herself and I guess I have some compassion. I realize frozen pipes are mostly avoidable if you take all the appropriate precautions, I did in 2021 but had one bust anyway


You ran your faucet on hot and cold and it freeze break? That is almost impossible

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Originally Posted by bbqking
Master Bathroom. Cold water seems to be starting to run faster. However Hot water is slowly flowing but there is NO hot/warm water coming out. Water heating is working, hot water2nd bath and kitchen works fine. Just the furthest from the source. SO, if water is coming out of hot water faucet but cold, what is that indicating? If it was burst, there would be NO flow, will the hot water eventually start flowing? We are running those constantly now.


If it burst you would hear it and see water all over the place.

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: TexDawg] #14574420 12/24/22 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TexDawg
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A second house in our subdivision has busted something, house catty corner to us has ice all over the place. Feel sorry for them, the lady moved in over the summer


Why feel sorry?

Run all your fixtures with hot and cold water, It wasn't like this was a surprise record cold, or the one in Febraury 2021.

Unless your eledery then it's your own fault for frozen pipes in residential house, the news and all media outlets said to run your fixtures.




Cause it’s Christmas and she lives by herself and I guess I have some compassion. I realize frozen pipes are mostly avoidable if you take all the appropriate precautions, I did in 2021 but had one bust anyway


So well said!


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Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: bbqking] #14574457 12/24/22 05:59 PM
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well, add my trailer here at fork to the no water list.

wrapped, heat tape full length and cabinets open with electric radiator in front and still froze on me last night. bang


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Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: hopalong] #14574459 12/24/22 06:00 PM
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well, add my trailer here at fork to the no water list.

wrapped, heat tape full length and cabinets open with electric radiator in front and still froze on me last night. bang


Have you tried to pea on it?

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: RedRanger] #14574463 12/24/22 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRanger
Frozen pipes

You should of ran all your fixtures in the house, easy solution to keep them from freezing.

Open fixtures and hope they start running soon once they warm up and unfreeze, they will either run or you will have a freeze break.

Keep a water key handy to shut off meter to the house.


This, I drip all of them. And hot side will freeze first if you don't usually.

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: bbqking] #14574501 12/24/22 06:50 PM
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My problem seems to be all set now. Learned quite a few things about this ( New to me Home ). Thanks for all the assists ..

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: bbqking] #14574506 12/24/22 06:55 PM
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What do you guys do with the washer and dryer faucets? Anyone ever had them to freeze up?

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What do you guys do with the washer and dryer faucets? Anyone ever had them to freeze up?



not much you can do with them


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Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: bbqking] #14574524 12/24/22 07:06 PM
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Maybe try a Hair dryer, just hold the heat on it for a while. Ya got some pretty smart guys in here, I'm sure you'll get a better answer then a HAIR DRYER, but worth a shot.

Re: Frozen Pipes [Re: Po Boy] #14574526 12/24/22 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Po Boy
What do you guys do with the washer and dryer faucets? Anyone ever had them to freeze up?


What I did in February 2021 when it was stupid cold, I cut my hoses and let them drain into the stand pipe

Mine are on the outside wall on the north facing side.

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Originally Posted by WAWI
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Frozen pipes

And hot side will freeze first if you don't usually.

Physics teacher taught me this way back in the day. It's one of those phenomenons that he explained like this, once water starts changing temps it can accelerate. If you can take the same two size containers, one with hot water tap and one with cold water tap, put em both in the freezer at the same time and the hot water one will freeze first.

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Frozen pipes

And hot side will freeze first if you don't usually.

Physics teacher taught me this way back in the day. It's one of those phenomenons that he explained like this, once water starts changing temps it can accelerate. If you can take the same two size containers, one with hot water tap and one with cold water tap, put em both in the freezer at the same time and the hot water one will freeze first.



hot is not as dense as cold, easier to freeze and yes it will freeze first.


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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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What do you guys do with the washer and dryer faucets? Anyone ever had them to freeze up?


What I did in February 2021 when it was stupid cold, I cut my hoses and let them drain into the stand pipe

Mine are on the outside wall on the north facing side.



Another option...get you a electric radiant heater (only an example) and pull out the washer a couple of feet. Set your radiant heater on low and aim it towards the wall that houses the plumbing. That way your warming up just that centralized location and not an entire room. The insulation is (should be) on the back side of the pipes, so you're keeping your side of the wall warmer than the cold side. The plug your washer uses is a 20 amp outlet, so it should easily handle that heater even on hi. The heater that is linked, has a 250 watt option (low) which should be more than enough warmth to keep that wall warm for most of our winter problems.

Here's what we did for the apt complexes I worked at. Works most of the time, until you lose electric...then your jacked.

Under sinks, a clamp on light fixture with a 75 or 100 watt incandescent (old school) light bulb. Close the doors to create a heat tent under the sinks. Some times we'd drip them as well, depending on how cold it was going to be. You can also use this in the laundry area, but it's not nearly as efficient.
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We put the radiant heater in the vacant laundries because they sit on the floor and the heat rises up the wall, keeping everything toasty. Use caution, you can scorch your wall using to much heat! Just keep it from freezing is all you need.

In smaller bathrooms, we would put a small Electric Space Heater and close the door to create a hot room and leave the cabinet doors open so heat can get in there. This warms up the space to keep the entire plumbing system in the walls warmer than the freezing temps outside. It doesn't have to be HOT, just warm enough to keep the pipes from freezing. For the most part, our ideal temp was 56-60 degrees to combat the cold outside temps.

My old boss was an engineer who owned several apt complexes. When you're footing the bill for hundreds of empty units and trying to keep the pipes from bursting, you want to do it in the cheapest and most efficient way possible. This is the best we found. He would make us check temps through out the nights and adjust as needed according to their data. That was a bunch of BS, but for the most part, it kept everything from bursting. Winter storm Uri was a whole different beast. Hope this helps and remember it for the freezes to come. The only times this DIDN'T work, was when we lost power or the heater quit working. In my 12 yrs there, I lost 2 pipes in 2 bathrooms, because the heaters quit working.

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