Forums59
Topics1,039,391
Posts13,963,787
Members144,202
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549452
11/29/22 02:11 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 210
FishDFly
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 210 |
FDF
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549463
11/29/22 02:17 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,893
MBarger
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,893 |
Great book, one of my favorite reads. Emotional rollercoaster for sure. Couldn't imagine living back in those days. We classify it as brutality, but to the Comanches and the Rangers that eventually subdued them, it was normal survival. What I found most interesting is from data in the book, the Comanche tribe was not near as large as originally thought, they just covered an incredible amount of territory and stopped Western Expansion. I'm trying to find my next read regarding Comanches and Texas Ranger History.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Patriot7Six]
#14549487
11/29/22 02:24 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,920
Wool E. Booger
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,920 |
I finally got around to reading this one, it was great. I definitely learned a lot. Anyone ever visited Old Fort Parker where Cynthia Ann Parker was abducted and her family killed outside of Groesbeck? I have been to old fort Parker, years ago on a school field trip with my kids. Her original burial spot is north of Palestine Texas in the Brushy Creek area.
Last edited by Wool E. Booger; 11/29/22 03:38 PM. Reason: Typo
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549515
11/29/22 02:39 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,194
OTFF
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,194 |
The Comanche are my favorite too. However, if you dive into many of the the Texas tribes you will find a lifetime of fascinating information. The “disgusting” lifestyle of the Coahuiltecans shows just how tough most NAs were. I used to raise and train Appaloosa horses. Before I finished a horse(s) and sold them, I would haul several up to Palo Duro Canyon and ride them for a week or so. If you have never ridden a horse on the Staked Plains/PDC during a full moon you haven’t lived. Good times.
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549632
11/29/22 04:11 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,283
Hookem
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,283 |
A late, good friend was a direct descendent of Quanah Parker.
I'll have to find and reread Grandma's family history she wrote years ago. Spoke of the raids near McGregor and China Springs.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549840
11/29/22 06:55 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 49,438
RATZ
Activity Coordinator
|
Activity Coordinator
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 49,438 |
I took defensive driving from an attorney in Abilene named Quanah Parker. He was white as rice on a paper plate in a snow storm.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549848
11/29/22 07:02 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 49,438
RATZ
Activity Coordinator
|
Activity Coordinator
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 49,438 |
if you want to know why they disliked us so here is one reason. Those are buffalo skulls.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: RATZ]
#14549857
11/29/22 07:12 PM
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,874
avid_basser
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6,874 |
if you want to know why they disliked us so here is one reason. Those are buffalo skulls. Just sad...to think all of those beautiful creators once roamed the states.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549866
11/29/22 07:18 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 1,967
Grasshopperglock
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 1,967 |
Yet, not a thing is said about cattle being culled...because they fart. Global warming!
Think of the methane and the children.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549919
11/29/22 07:55 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,733
Patriot7Six
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,733 |
if you want to know why they disliked us so here is one reason. Those are buffalo skulls. Just sad...to think all of those beautiful creators once roamed the states. Definitely is... The Sharps rifle made it an easy job, the buffalo didn't even run when they saw their neighbors dropping dead because they couldn't see the threat. The book mentions the hide men being covered in blood and grease and smelling awful, can you imagine that job in the Texas heat?
Fight the good fight - 1 Tim. 6:12
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549920
11/29/22 07:57 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,768
kdub#1
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,768 |
Am reading it right now. It is very good and well written. It has been eye opening to learn about the Comanches. Torture killing was the norm for Plains indians then but the torture and sexual mistreatment (gang rape) of women set the Comanches apart in their ruthlessness. They didn't just do this to whites but also to all their enemies. Also it's pretty crazy to learn how the thorse transformed a relatively weak group of people into the dominant tribe on the Plains. They were the first native americans to master fighting from horseback and that made them deadly. I read the below book about Kit Carson and the Navajo over the summer. Also a very good read if you enjoy this genre. [
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549937
11/29/22 08:23 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 8,389
Jpurdue
OP
TFF Celebrity
|
OP
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 8,389 |
Neither side was without blame or virtue. There is a romanticized view of native Americans that shows them living peacefully by a river in perfect harmony with nature. In reality, they had a big fire going with the legs and arms of their enemies cooking on it. The whites did what all people have done, including the natives, they expanded their borders where they could. The ensuing conflict had predictable results. It's a story as old as mankind.
The history is amazing and gruesome and I'm endlessly amazed by the grit of the people on both sides. They seem a different species to the men we have walking about today. Gone are the days of wooden ships and iron men.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549946
11/29/22 08:36 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 38,096
RickS.
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 38,096 |
Yet we still have people who trust the government. Look no further than the Native American. The evilness of the government basically started there and continues today.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: Jpurdue]
#14549994
11/29/22 09:14 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 47
MTH82
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 47 |
I'm in the middle of this book. Great read so far. True accounts from pioneers during that time. There's a great movie (or TV series) to be made on Charles Goodnight one day if someone can do it right. https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Days-Southwest-1850-1879/dp/1376137194
Last edited by MTH82; 11/29/22 09:16 PM.
|
|
Re: Comanche Indian/Texas History
[Re: MTH82]
#14550013
11/29/22 09:34 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,465
butch sanders
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,465 |
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|