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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Tiltman]
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09/16/22 04:09 PM
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Rockie Martin
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Was 3.75% when we signed, city took almost 3 months to get permits done.
We could buy a 12 month lock once we had slab, at this point the city has cost us an unknown amount.
Not saying builder is perfect but they had slab done 3 weeks after permits approved
It is what it is , hopefully they peak and dip some if it gets back into 5’s we will lock All depends on what the Feds do next week. If they Raise Rates .75 we should see a small bounce back on rates. If the rate increase is less than .75 we will see a really good improvement! If they raise rates higher than .75 we are all screwed. Rates will move very quick upwards. We offer long term rates for up to a year with a float down option. I just quoted a VA 120 lock at 5.75. Conventional are alittle higher though. Not sure what type of financing you are doing......
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Tiltman]
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09/16/22 05:37 PM
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Will probably get in touch w you next week Rocky for some insight.
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Tiltman]
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09/16/22 07:06 PM
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Looking forward to talking to you…. It’s been a bit…
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: WAWI]
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09/17/22 12:36 AM
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This would be a good time to 7 year ARM. Refi later. Brother got an ARM quoted and it was higher than conventional. Makes no sense but the prices on them are awful right now.
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Lon Hagler]
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09/17/22 12:39 AM
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The Fed is expected to increase the rate 0.75% (81% probability) bringing the high range to 3.25%. I wouldn't expect them to raise it a full point. Mortgages have priced this in the 0.75% increase, if we get a full point then rates will jump up and we are looking at 7% mortgage rates and I'll have to find another job. Most sellers are offering long term rates locks, some up to a year. I'm curious what business your in? Can you elaborate?
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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09/17/22 02:42 AM
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The Fed is expected to increase the rate 0.75% (81% probability) bringing the high range to 3.25%. I wouldn't expect them to raise it a full point. Mortgages have priced this in the 0.75% increase, if we get a full point then rates will jump up and we are looking at 7% mortgage rates and I'll have to find another job. Most sellers are offering long term rates locks, some up to a year. I'm curious what business your in? Can you elaborate? I'm guessing something to do with financing
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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09/17/22 03:03 AM
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Rockie Martin
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The Fed is expected to increase the rate 0.75% (81% probability) bringing the high range to 3.25%. I wouldn't expect them to raise it a full point. Mortgages have priced this in the 0.75% increase, if we get a full point then rates will jump up and we are looking at 7% mortgage rates and I'll have to find another job. Most sellers are offering long term rates locks, some up to a year. I'm curious what business your in? Can you elaborate? I am in the Mortgage Business
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: patriot07]
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09/17/22 03:05 AM
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My brother is using a popular builder in Caddo Mills. It's going absolutely awful. Builder has not used the materials in his build package sheet (instead choosing cheaper and lower-performing products). Builder said the materials in his agreed-upon package (that he and my brother signed) were too expensive and he could no longer do it. He said 11 months to complete, which means he'd be finishing this month, but he's not even dried in yet (can you imagine being nearly 12 months in without even having brick on the outside???). Brother could have locked in 4.9% for 60 days a month ago and been in decent shape. Now looks like it's going to be 6.5%+ and he's going to be paying $1500/month more than expected and he'll be paying it for a house that's not built to the agreed-upon contract.
I'm not sure if or how much my brother is planning on pushing the issue, but I hope he takes the builer to court and gets a bunch of $ out of him. What he's done is so incredibly wrong. Nothing but lies, [censored] quality, lack of customer service, breach of contract, and unnecessary delays that will end up costing my brother hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hopefully, the builders name isn’t Scott Clements. The only thing he is popular for Is ripping people off. Does he still advertise $70sq ft under roof ?
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Tiltman]
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09/26/22 02:07 PM
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Checking back in with mortgage gurus. Brother is looking to lock this week (probably a 90-day lock). Did they do about what was expected and stay similar or improve a bit after the .75% rate hike?
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Tiltman]
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09/26/22 02:41 PM
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It's ugly right now, I still have 8-9 months so crossing fingers for improvement
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
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09/26/22 03:54 PM
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My brother is using a popular builder in Caddo Mills. It's going absolutely awful. Builder has not used the materials in his build package sheet (instead choosing cheaper and lower-performing products). Builder said the materials in his agreed-upon package (that he and my brother signed) were too expensive and he could no longer do it. He said 11 months to complete, which means he'd be finishing this month, but he's not even dried in yet (can you imagine being nearly 12 months in without even having brick on the outside???). Brother could have locked in 4.9% for 60 days a month ago and been in decent shape. Now looks like it's going to be 6.5%+ and he's going to be paying $1500/month more than expected and he'll be paying it for a house that's not built to the agreed-upon contract.
I'm not sure if or how much my brother is planning on pushing the issue, but I hope he takes the builer to court and gets a bunch of $ out of him. What he's done is so incredibly wrong. Nothing but lies, [censored] quality, lack of customer service, breach of contract, and unnecessary delays that will end up costing my brother hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'd be looking to get out of that contract right now. It sounds like the builder is probably in breach, or at the very least not complying with the building standards outlined. Your brother should be able to get all his money back and walk. If you wait until after the home is built, even if you win a lawsuit the builder just files Ch 11 and your brother is left with a low quality house for which he overpaid.
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: patriot07]
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09/26/22 04:03 PM
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Checking back in with mortgage gurus. Brother is looking to lock this week (probably a 90-day lock). Did they do about what was expected and stay similar or improve a bit after the .75% rate hike? Love to give you a quote for the mortgage....
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Re: The Crystal Ball of Mortgage Rates?
[Re: Rockie Martin]
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09/26/22 04:21 PM
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patriot07
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My brother is using a popular builder in Caddo Mills. It's going absolutely awful. Builder has not used the materials in his build package sheet (instead choosing cheaper and lower-performing products). Builder said the materials in his agreed-upon package (that he and my brother signed) were too expensive and he could no longer do it. He said 11 months to complete, which means he'd be finishing this month, but he's not even dried in yet (can you imagine being nearly 12 months in without even having brick on the outside???). Brother could have locked in 4.9% for 60 days a month ago and been in decent shape. Now looks like it's going to be 6.5%+ and he's going to be paying $1500/month more than expected and he'll be paying it for a house that's not built to the agreed-upon contract.
I'm not sure if or how much my brother is planning on pushing the issue, but I hope he takes the builer to court and gets a bunch of $ out of him. What he's done is so incredibly wrong. Nothing but lies, [censored] quality, lack of customer service, breach of contract, and unnecessary delays that will end up costing my brother hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'd be looking to get out of that contract right now. It sounds like the builder is probably in breach, or at the very least not complying with the building standards outlined. Your brother should be able to get all his money back and walk. If you wait until after the home is built, even if you win a lawsuit the builder just files Ch 11 and your brother is left with a low quality house for which he overpaid. This is not a small time builder that would file chapter 11, close up shop, and re-open under a new name. This is a major builder with 100+ homes going at a time. I've recommended my brother talk with a lawyer about his options, but I don't think he has. He doesn't want to file suit. He just wanted the house built in the time frame the builder said it would be done, to the specs the builder said he would use, and with the level of customer service that you'd expect with a near-half-million dollar transaction. But unfortunately none of that has happened. Checking back in with mortgage gurus. Brother is looking to lock this week (probably a 90-day lock). Did they do about what was expected and stay similar or improve a bit after the .75% rate hike? Love to give you a quote for the mortgage.... I'll send my brother your info
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