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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13199949 06/30/19 12:08 AM
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I find it hilarious that for decades no one ever said anything about stringer tournaments. And now all of a sudden its oh stringer tournaments are bad, stringer tournaments are boring mlf is the future all hail mlf. There is a word for that. Its called bandwagon. Some of you would endorse a turd if you thought it would make you look cool.


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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: J.H.S.] #13199979 06/30/19 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Seale
I find it hilarious that for decades no one ever said anything about stringer tournaments. And now all of a sudden its oh stringer tournaments are bad, stringer tournaments are boring mlf is the future all hail mlf. There is a word for that. Its called bandwagon. Some of you would endorse a turd if you thought it would make you look cool.


I don't see every thread here obviously but I've actually never seen anyone make a post that said stringer tournaments are bad. Do you have a reference for this?

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: J.H.S.] #13199985 06/30/19 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Seale
I find it hilarious that for decades no one ever said anything about stringer tournaments. And now all of a sudden its oh stringer tournaments are bad, stringer tournaments are boring mlf is the future all hail mlf. There is a word for that. Its called bandwagon. Some of you would endorse a turd if you thought it would make you look cool.

I've been fishing 5 fish tournaments all my life and will continue doing so. I like MLF because it's a new format that i find fun. I have never said 5 fish tourmaments are bad. If anything it's the anti BPT guys that blow things out of proportion. Saying they fish with nothing but spinning rods and try to catch nothing but small fish

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: Dubee] #13200079 06/30/19 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubee

I've been fishing 5 fish tournaments all my life and will continue doing so. I like MLF because it's a new format that i find fun. I have never said 5 fish tourmaments are bad. If anything it's the anti BPT guys that blow things out of proportion. Saying they fish with nothing but spinning rods and try to catch nothing but small fish


Im not anti anything. Ive followed as much of the first few tournaments as I possibly could. I then got to the point where Id check at the end of each round. This week, cant tell you who is fishing tomorrow. Will probably check tomorrow night and see how all my favorites did.

Im a fan of fishing, but got bored watching the BPT. If the stars werent there, I likely wouldnt follow it at all. Will be interesting to see if they make changes, and what changes they make to keep the interest.

If they keep everything the same they need to do a better job of lake selection or I dont see them maintaining current ratings for very long. I hope they make it. I think initial ratings were good because it was something new. Once the new has faded, will be interesting to see what the ratings are like.

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13201435 07/01/19 06:30 PM
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This is why a fish finder costs 3K plus, a motor is 20K plus, a dam crank bait is 15 to 20 dollars and a new boat motor and trailer is 70K plus. The sponsors are raking it in and don't plan on stopping.

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13201562 07/01/19 08:42 PM
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Sponsorship money must be really good for these guys. By my count only 18 guys made over $60,000. With all their travel expenses that is nothing. Five guys didn't make a dime. At least they didn't have to pay a bunch of entry fees to make $0 I guess.

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: Tx Tree Grower] #13201917 07/02/19 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tx Tree Grower
Sponsorship money must be really good for these guys. By my count only 18 guys made over $60,000. With all their travel expenses that is nothing. Five guys didn't make a dime. At least they didn't have to pay a bunch of entry fees to make $0 I guess.

"Three year contract" I don't think all the top sticks left for a new unproven tour out of the goodness of their hearts.

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: SC-001] #13201957 07/02/19 03:46 AM
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I wonder what everyones opinion would have been if the BPT had made it 5
fish? Still weigh them and release with no weigh in. An idea I had would that I think would be interesting would be a hybrid of the two. Maybe have top 10 total weight make the cut along with top 10 with best 5. It could work until the final day when you would have to have a way to crown a champ.


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Originally Posted by Hunter's Dad
I wonder what everyones opinion would have been if the BPT had made it 5
fish? Still weigh them and release with no weigh in. An idea I had would that I think would be interesting would be a hybrid of the two. Maybe have top 10 total weight make the cut along with top 10 with best 5. It could work until the final day when you would have to have a way to crown a champ.



I would prefer that format. I just cant get excited about seeing guys targeting schools of smaller fish and thats what it takes to win this format. But Duckett has said numerous times, there will be no 5 fish format, period. Its staying the way it was designed.

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: RiveraTackleCo.] #13202358 07/02/19 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RiveraTackleCo.
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As long as the alternative "5 fish limit" is still around no one is forcing any type of change in regards to picking sides. It's just another option. That's what this country is about. While i respect your input, it always comes off as "dare to challenge me" type responses. We all know what you do for a living and that is to collect data, nothing more and nothing less. And you apply that methodology to the way you interact with everyone here. I completely understand that there is plenty of room for MLFBPT to grow as it is a "new" alternative than what's out there. It's new and it will create it's OWN lane not FORCE B.A.S.S to change it's format. What B.A.S.S did change was the way it treated it's customers and fans. That change needed to happen as the anglers spoke their mind regarding their decision to leave. That is the only changing force MLF BPT has done. Wish the best to all the trails out there. Thanks


You forgot one other benefit of BPT and the positive change it brought about. There are a bunch of guys now fishing the Elites and FLW who wouldn't have been, otherwise.


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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: fouzman] #13202364 07/02/19 04:17 PM
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Mark,

As long as the alternative "5 fish limit" is still around no one is forcing any type of change in regards to picking sides. It's just another option. That's what this country is about. While i respect your input, it always comes off as "dare to challenge me" type responses. We all know what you do for a living and that is to collect data, nothing more and nothing less. And you apply that methodology to the way you interact with everyone here. I completely understand that there is plenty of room for MLFBPT to grow as it is a "new" alternative than what's out there. It's new and it will create it's OWN lane not FORCE B.A.S.S to change it's format. What B.A.S.S did change was the way it treated it's customers and fans. That change needed to happen as the anglers spoke their mind regarding their decision to leave. That is the only changing force MLF BPT has done. Wish the best to all the trails out there. Thanks


You forgot one other benefit of BPT and the positive change it brought about. There are a bunch of guys now fishing the Elites and FLW who wouldn't have been, otherwise.



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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13202464 07/02/19 05:31 PM
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I heard KVD made 24,000 on the tour this year and when will they start charging for the live stream. fish

Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13202468 07/02/19 05:35 PM
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Haven't heard that they are going to charge for the live stream on BPT. As far as Kevin's winnings, throw that in with about $2.5 million in sponsorship, and I'm pretty sure he's just fine.


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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: befuddled] #13202541 07/02/19 06:38 PM
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Personally I like the MLF when it on but I'm not going to spend hours watching a live stream show of any type. I don't know how they think they are getting more exposure for their sponsors since they fish during the work week and don't have a format to bring crowds in but that is my opinion. My guess is they go the way of the PAA within 5 years unless Johnny Morris and Boyd Duckett bankroll the entire trail.


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Re: MLF Angler Longevity [Re: SC-001] #13202661 07/02/19 08:08 PM
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Sponsorship money must be really good for these guys. By my count only 18 guys made over $60,000. With all their travel expenses that is nothing. Five guys didn't make a dime. At least they didn't have to pay a bunch of entry fees to make $0 I guess.

"Three year contract" I don't think all the top sticks left for a new unproven tour out of the goodness of their hearts.



Does the contract guarantee that they can't make $0?

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