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14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/20/17 02:40 AM
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HaulinBass02
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Ok guys, finally sold our suburban and Im in need of a truck. I gotta buy used and 2014 is about the newest year model I can comfortably afford and mileage is around 60-90k in my price range. Toyota Tundra crewmax 5.7 is not out of the question, I just havent found one configured how I want it. My only have to have is 4x4, biggest available V-8 (Ecoboost is not an option in my book, dont try). Not buying another Chevy so that leaves me with the Ram 1500 Hemi (crew cab) and the F-150 5.0. I have driven both but still cant decide. My concern with buying a higher mileage truck is the transmission and the remaining longevity of the engine. The Ram also was a little soft in the rear but I can cure that with stiffer coils. Which one would you buy and why?
'99 Skeeter 186SX SC, 150 Yamaha VMax '13 Ford F-150 SCrew XLT, 4x4, 5.0, 6-spd
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/20/17 04:01 AM
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patriot07
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Hardly ever see a Hemi with issues. 5.0 is one of the best engines in the Ford lineup reliability-wise. Toyota 5.7 is also a very good motor. I'd find the one of those I could get the best deal on and go with it.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/20/17 11:30 AM
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I have enjoyed my 5.0. Seems to be a well proven engine. I think Ford's overall quality is better.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/20/17 11:47 AM
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RonL
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Bought me a 14 Ford F150 back in june . Had 93,000 on it and a one owner . Well taken care of , very clean . Not a 4wd tho . So far i been well pleased with it but i have not pulled any trailers yet but if i do i doubt Id have any trouble doing so . I would not pull a 5th wheel with it tho .
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/20/17 02:59 PM
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CM0512
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I have owned both, The 5.0 is a great motor in the F-150 but the 6 speed transmission kills your fuel economy when not towing. Currently I drive a 14 Ram 1500 and do much better then the f150 when it comes to fuel economy with the cylinder deactivation and the 8 speed. Also to me the ram seats are more comfortable. Both tow equally well.
Last edited by cmorsch; 12/20/17 02:59 PM.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/20/17 05:35 PM
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Have been in late model fords and have a late model ram, but the ram has the ecodiesel and the fords had the ecoboost. Think both are nice trucks and I think the v-8's both offer are pretty solid. The ram 8-speed is a nice transmission and I think I would lean to the ram for a little more grunt and a little more displacement which arguably gets better fuel mileage. But no flys on the ford, I like the ones I have ridden in.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/21/17 12:31 AM
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I bought a Tundra Crew Max 4x4 with the 5.7. $42 000. It's a 2016. Great truck and pulls a boat without a sweat. Awesome brakes. Poor gas mileage. Average without the boat is 12.9 .....pulling the boat it averages around 11.5.
But, hey! It's fast and rides nice.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/21/17 02:58 AM
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patriot07
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You talk about rear ends and I think it's worth mentioning that the Ford rear suspension might be the worst of the big-name players in half-tons. Ram has the best ride. Toyota seems to squat the least. Chevy is a nice combination of ride and capability. Ford isn't particularly good at any of it when compared to the rest.
Stick air bags on the Ram and you have good ride and no squat under load. Win-win.
I also agree that the Ram 8-speed is a fantastic transmission.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
[Re: HaulinBass02]
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12/21/17 03:16 PM
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redchevy
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I'm not a major fan of the coil rear suspension, but I would take that write up with a grain or two of salt
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/21/17 04:15 PM
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I just posted for payload ratings...which you can definitely take with a grain of salt. I'm not against coils. I have not been in a 1500 but they do work good on the 2500. I think there is more to the equation. Heck, a passenger tire with 35psi will ride a lot softer than a e-rated tire with 60psi, regardless of the truck.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/21/17 05:22 PM
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redchevy
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To me that looks like a marketing ploy by ford. They have the most payload because the have a heavy payload option and they have the lightest truck. I believe most of the others are cut short on their max trailer weight at least for 5th wheel by the pin weight. 20% pin weight is ok but so is 15%. If you use 15% it will up the others tow ratings a bit I bet and ford will run out of GC weight and will significantly tighten the field. Also if you look at gross axle weight ratings of all the big names you get some funny ideas about why things are the way they are.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/21/17 05:32 PM
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redchevy
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The reason the ford says it can tow more conventional/bumper tow than 5th wheel is because they probably recommend 10% tongue weight for that.
That said I do think the ecoboost is by far the most capable power plant in any of the 1/2 ton market from a get up and go standpoint. Ive towed about 7,000 lbs with my RAM and it does it like a champ and with proper weight distribution handles incredibly well, but I wouldn't want to get into the 10k territory with it for even occasional use.
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Re: 14 Ram 1500 or 14 F-150?
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12/21/17 07:27 PM
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redchevy
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Point was they only have said distinct advantage if you artificially require higher pin/tongue weights than necessary. You do not have to have a pin weight of 20% to safely operate a gooseneck/5th wheel. The numbers make it look like ford is such a big winner because they are using 20% if you use 15% then then ford hits its gross combination and cant go up but the others have room to grow quite a bit because the limiting factor beforehand was payload.
I guess we are a little off topic now debating max 5th wheel tow ratings for what the OP asked though. I think they are all pretty decent trucks, but I don't know if I will ever stick to his stipulations of v-8 again in a 1/2 ton pickup.
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