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 Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 10:13 PM
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von rage
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Do any of you have any home made solutions for cooling down the swimming pool temps? I see a few options on the internet for using the pool returns to make a fountain type thing with evaporative cooling. Anyone tried anything like this?
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 10:20 PM
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Put block ice in the skimmer baskets?
Team wolfs I had to perform. It took a minute to get it all in my mouth and another five to swallow it all.
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Re: Cooler pool water
[Re: von rage]
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07/21/17 10:36 PM
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Evaporative cooling won't get you more than a couple degrees of cooling with our humidity. Ive thought about getting a couple floating chlorinators and putting dry ice in them to see what that could accomplish.
But the best bet would be to have a heat pump style chiller installed at the equipment pad.
Last edited by ahren; 07/21/17 10:36 PM.
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Re: Cooler pool water
[Re: von rage]
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07/21/17 10:46 PM
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Raskydoo
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Only thing that might offer some sustainable impact is shade by-way of trees and whatnot. And even with that, the difference can be measurable but not really noticeable by feel of the water.
When the ambient temperature in day climbs to triple digits and nights stay in/near 90's...volume of water is just too much to impact a whole lot. Yes ice could impact it temporarily if you had enough (e.g. truckload) but as soon as ice melts temp will climb right back.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 10:52 PM
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 10:54 PM
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lanman71
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What a maroon!
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Re: Cooler pool water
[Re: elcoyote, esq.]
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07/21/17 10:57 PM
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Put block ice in the skimmer baskets? Where the blocks are placed won't matter much with a pool, if one were to try that. But.... 1) Do you realize just how many blocks would be required to make any perceptible difference? 2) The real answer to #1 would drain your pocket, and is only temporary. 3) The huge number of blocks would completely throw off the pool chemistry, requiring a large expense for additional chemicals.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:01 PM
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A buddy in Houston's boss had a 500lb Brick/Block of ice delivered and dropped in his pool. $1.00 a pound delivered and installed before the party starts.  I know they are installing chillers just like the heaters they have been installing for years in the modern day pool build.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:07 PM
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Put block ice in the skimmer baskets? Where the blocks are placed won't matter much with a pool, if one were to try that. But.... 1) Do you realize just how many blocks would be required to make any perceptible difference? 2) The real answer to #1 would drain your pocket, and is only temporary. 3) The huge number of blocks would completely throw off the pool chemistry, requiring a large expense for additional chemicals. Hi, you must be new here.
Team wolfs I had to perform. It took a minute to get it all in my mouth and another five to swallow it all.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:08 PM
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Evaporative cooling won't get you more than a couple degrees of cooling with our humidity. Ive thought about getting a couple floating chlorinators and putting dry ice in them to see what that could accomplish.
But the best bet would be to have a heat pump style chiller installed at the equipment pad. On the dry ice idea: Get ready to buy about a ton of it..... On the evaporative cooling, you'd be wrong about it not working "with our humidity". I have measured the temperature drop caused by my Port-a-Cool fan on numerous hot days in the Houston area. I've seen a drop around 20 degrees on a regular basis in the heat of the day. Additionally, cooling the pool's water with a fountain or spray-bar isn't really targeting "evaporative cooling". If the pool has accumulated heat that is in excess of the ambient air temperature, simply exposing more surface area of that water to the ambient air will allow convection of heat from the water to the air, thereby cooling the water. So, the question for the OP is: What temperature is your pool water, and what is the air temperature through the night (when a sprayed-water cooler would be most efficient to operate)? If the pool is hotter, then you CAN cool it by some percentage of the measured difference, which is probably a lot more than "a couple of degrees".
Last edited by Flippin-Out; 07/21/17 11:12 PM.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:14 PM
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Chop it up, haul it off, fill it in and sod.
Total demolition cost = $11,500
Monthly cost:
With pool
$150.00 Chemicals & pool man
$ 60.00 Electricity to run the pump
$ 25.00 Water evaporation
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$235.00 Per month or $2,820 Per year
Without pool
$ 90.00 Yard man @ 3 visits per month (less in the winter) Say 8 months
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$720.00 per year
Savings: $2,100 per year, recoup the cost of demolition in about 5.5.years give or take.
Real world figures, we had ours removed in 2015 and haven't missed it since.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:16 PM
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with cold water and quit peeing in it
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:16 PM
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A buddy in Houston's boss had a 500lb Brick/Block of ice delivered and dropped in his pool. $1.00 a pound delivered and installed before the party starts. I know they are installing chillers just like the heaters they have been installing for years in the modern day pool build. A pound of ice melts to about a pint of water. 8 pints in a gallon, so 500lbs of ice would be about 65 gallons of water. If my math is right, and depending on the size of the pool, the 500 pounds didn't do a whole lot unless you jump in and get near it when it's melting.
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Re: Cooler pool water
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07/21/17 11:19 PM
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A buddy in Houston's boss had a 500lb Brick/Block of ice delivered and dropped in his pool. $1.00 a pound delivered and installed before the party starts. I know they are installing chillers just like the heaters they have been installing for years in the modern day pool build. A pound of ice melts to about a pint of water. 8 pints in a gallon, so 500lbs of ice would be about 65 gallons of water. If my math is right, and depending on the size of the pool, the 500 pounds didn't do a whole lot unless you jump in and get near it when it's melting. Liquid weight is 8 pounds per gallon. It expands slightly when frozen. Still a rough enough estimate. Using 8 pounds per gallon equals 62.5 gallons. Pretty close. Probably didn't do a whole lot of cooling. Don't know. I wasn't invited.
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Re: Cooler pool water
[Re: Flippin-Out]
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07/21/17 11:22 PM
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Evaporative cooling won't get you more than a couple degrees of cooling with our humidity. Ive thought about getting a couple floating chlorinators and putting dry ice in them to see what that could accomplish.
But the best bet would be to have a heat pump style chiller installed at the equipment pad. On the dry ice idea: Get ready to buy about a ton of it..... On the evaporative cooling, you'd be wrong about it not working "with our humidity". I have measured the temperature drop caused by my Port-a-Cool fan on numerous hot days in the Houston area. I've seen a drop around 20 degrees on a regular basis in the heat of the day. Additionally, cooling the pool's water with a fountain or spray-bar isn't really targeting "evaporative cooling". If the pool has accumulated heat that is in excess of the ambient air temperature, simply exposing more surface area of that water to the ambient air will allow convection of heat from the water to the air, thereby cooling the water. So, the question for the OP is: What temperature is your pool water, and what is the air temperature through the night (when a sprayed-water cooler would be most efficient to operate)? If the pool is hotter, then you CAN cool it by some percentage of the measured difference, which is probably a lot more than "a couple of degrees". Yeah I figured the dry ice thing was a lark but at least it would look cool. As far as the fountains or sprays, yes your port a cool can bring down the air temp. down but all my years in pools have demonstrated that their cooling ability in a large body of water is about the same as the ice block idea. The only real way to cool it down is install a chiller.
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