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New to Fly Fishing. #12180845 04/03/17 08:11 PM
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Hello, I'm going to buy a 5/6 wt fly combo and I have some questions. What kind of fish could a 5/6 take? I'll mainly be fishing for panfish, bass, and occasionally carp. Could this setup handle the fish stated?

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https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Water-Fly-Fishing-Complete/dp/B001IAHX6A/ref=sr_1_1?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1468726663&sr=1-1&keywords=fly+fishing+combo&refinements=p_36%3A1253557011

Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12180868 04/03/17 08:23 PM
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That ought to be Baby Bear Perfect!


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Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: rrhyne56] #12180955 04/03/17 09:22 PM
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Dang, even carp???

Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12181164 04/03/17 11:17 PM
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Fly line is really strong (like 30 lb braid strong). A big carp would bend the heck out of a 6 wt. rod, but is definitely possible to use for such a fish.

Cabela's is going to sell their Prestige Collection Fly outfit for $119.00 (50% off regular price) from April 6-19. I have the 5 wt setup and can highly reccomend it. I don't think you can get a better combo for less money.

Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12181448 04/04/17 01:24 AM
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You won't land EVERY carp but it would be a fair fight on most


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Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12182120 04/04/17 01:32 PM
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I took my son steelhead fishing in CA (he lives there)and handed him a 5wt Orvis (cheap) rod (I don't remember if I gave him a 5 or 6 wt line, it was his first time with a fly rod and the 6 would have made it load better)and he caught a very respectable Steelhead with it. Some close friends move to Col last year and I gifted them a Cabela's Prestige outfit mentioned above in 6wt. I understand that you can go up and down a size (or 2) on line with these graphite rods as well but I have very limited experience there. What you are supposed to do is determine the size fly you intend to cast and then chose the line & rod that will present it as you should. Good luck
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are you a source of squirrel tails?

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Originally Posted By: TioPick
are you a source of squirrel tails?


Hmmm maybe? grin

Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12182919 04/04/17 08:09 PM
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Honestly there isn't much you can't fish for in this state with a 5/6. Typically in Texas (aswell as all of the other 'warmwater' states) the rod is matched to the kind of fly you'll be throwing, not to the size of the fish you'll be going after.

For instance, large 'froggy' spun hair flies would be a little difficult to throw with a 5wt, and then the distance potential is greatly diminished since the rod/line doesn't have enough grunt to pull frisbee flies through the wind and instead will just catch wind and fall. A good choice for that kind of arsenal would be either a 7/8wt or a fast action 6wt (although anything with a fast action is kind of like driving a race car with very little, er um, 'forgiveness' for casting error). It's kinda backwards from trout fishing, but makes a load of sense considering we throw very big, wind resistant stuff both inshore, and in the salt. When you get the hang of things and get good at your casting, then I find that a good fast-er action 6wt to be the all around Texas region rod.

Don't spend a fortune, a lot of those rods aren't going to be keen for beginners and have a lot of optional extras that you'll probably not even care about. The cabelas prestige combos are strictly meant for newer casters and run under $150 for everything. They come in a whole bunch of different sizes, just make sure you get the 9' 5/6 wt and it'll properly hold you over for several years.

Whatever you get, line it up with 6wt WF-F of your choice and 6' of 12# mono. The larger line will sacrifice a bit of distance, but will help with casting.

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Originally Posted By: solamisandwich
Honestly there isn't much you can't fish for in this state with a 5/6. Typically in Texas (aswell as all of the other 'warmwater' states) the rod is matched to the kind of fly you'll be throwing, not to the size of the fish you'll be going after.


I would also add wind to the equation along with fly size. A 5 weight has more than enough power to handle bonefish but if the wind is blowing a steady 15mph with gusts up to 20, you'll never get your fly to them.

One thing which really helped my casting was learning to control loop diameter. The goal is usually to throw a very tight loop which provides the most control and ability to cut through wind. However, as flies increase in size, opening up that loop by lengthening your casting stroke allows me to throw some large hair bugs. I've seen some really great casters like Kevin Hutchinson throw giant flies on very light rods using this technique.

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One valuable tip I had learned when transitioning to fly fishing was to buy a fly line that is 1 weight heavier than the rod. It really did help with casting. So if you are going to buy a 5wt rod, use 6wt line on it.

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Originally Posted By: Yakerie
One valuable tip I had learned when transitioning to fly fishing was to buy a fly line that is 1 weight heavier than the rod. It really did help with casting. So if you are going to buy a 5wt rod, use 6wt line on it.

So with a 5/6 weight rod, would I use 7?

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check out a TFO outfit. It has a lifetime warranty for anything that happens to it.


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Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: DancesWithSquirrels] #12184547 04/05/17 05:05 PM
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One valuable tip I had learned when transitioning to fly fishing was to buy a fly line that is 1 weight heavier than the rod. It really did help with casting. So if you are going to buy a 5wt rod, use 6wt line on it.

So with a 5/6 weight rod, would I use 7?



A 5/6wt rod feels more toward a 6wt to me. I would go with a 7wt line. It would definitely helps on windy days. I don't use a taper leader or tippet fishing in TX -- just straight mono or fluoro. I got my start and learning through Cliff Hilbert, have adopted his methods and caught tons of fish of various species. He has written a few articles so you can google his name. Here is one:

http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/forums/warmwater-articles/135-bream-fly-fishing-cliff-hilbert.html

Re: New to Fly Fishing. [Re: Yakerie] #12184928 04/05/17 08:32 PM
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One valuable tip I had learned when transitioning to fly fishing was to buy a fly line that is 1 weight heavier than the rod. It really did help with casting. So if you are going to buy a 5wt rod, use 6wt line on it.

So with a 5/6 weight rod, would I use 7?



A 5/6wt rod feels more toward a 6wt to me. I would go with a 7wt line. It would definitely helps on windy days. I don't use a taper leader or tippet fishing in TX -- just straight mono or fluoro. I got my start and learning through Cliff Hilbert, have adopted his methods and caught tons of fish of various species. He has written a few articles so you can google his name. Here is one:

http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/forums/warmwater-articles/135-bream-fly-fishing-cliff-hilbert.html

Thank you so much for this information. What pound mono/fluro should I use?

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