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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: LittleGazoo] #12116965 02/28/17 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: LittleGazoo
Hmm,

After the floods below Sam Rayburn, you would think common sense would be to build a new lake on the Sabine River above Rayburn.

But common sense will doom that. . .


That would be Toledo, not Rayburn...

And it has lakes already, tawakoni and fork...

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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: RedRanger] #12117161 02/28/17 11:44 PM
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Where is wheeler branch?


Near Glen Rose, I understand it's a deep lake stocked with some walleye.

Never been on it personally.


Not sure when it will take effect but I was told wheeler branch ellected to no longer allow "big boats" on the lake... ill see if i can verify


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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Jpurdue] #12117190 02/28/17 11:56 PM
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Found a "press release" with no offical letter head posted on it... id call b4 i went tout there with the big boat

http://www.scwd.com/about-the-park.html

Never mind just had to no where to look on the sight...

Wheeler branch, closed to bass boats

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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: SC-001] #12117461 03/01/17 02:24 AM
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I know this topic comes up from time to time, but does anyone know if there is any real chatter on the possibility of a new impoundment in Texas at any point in the near future?


They opened Wheeler Branch a few years ago, Small lake, last I heard no outboards allowed.

Last year they closed it to all boats mad, you can only use a kayak there, good little lake. To the OP's topic next big reservoir is Marvin Nichols in east texas but probably serveral years away from becoming a reality.


Lots of opposition to Marvin Nichols. Now, they are looking at raising Wright Patman 10 to 15' and sell that water to Dallas. The studies are taking shape now. If they do that, it will essentially be a new lake.

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For all of you Guys wondering if Bois D Arc is going to happen, let me ease your mind. We (NTMWD) should begin work on the Damn I April of 2018. Its not TCEQ holding us up it's the Corps of Engineers and their hurt feelings because NTMWD will not let them in on the operation of the Lake. It will be owned and operated by NTMWD. We have already got a Contractor hired to do the Damn and they are working on Mitigation efforts as we speak. The Raw water Pipelines are being designed to carry water to our new Water treatment Plant going in at Leonard and the Treated Water Pipeline from Leonard to McKinney is in design. After all that being said it's still a long way off but should be impounded by sometime in late 2022 or early 2023.
There is a lot of good info on the Lake and other Large Projects that we have on our website if you care to look it up. www.ntmwd.com

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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Go-Go Gadget] #12117501 03/01/17 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: Go-Go Gadget
For all of you Guys wondering if Bois D Arc is going to happen, let me ease your mind. We (NTMWD) should begin work on the Damn I April of 2018. Its not TCEQ holding us up it's the Corps of Engineers and their hurt feelings because NTMWD will not let them in on the operation of the Lake. It will be owned and operated by NTMWD. We have already got a Contractor hired to do the Damn and they are working on Mitigation efforts as we speak. The Raw water Pipelines are being designed to carry water to our new Water treatment Plant going in at Leonard and the Treated Water Pipeline from Leonard to McKinney is in design. After all that being said it's still a long way off but should be impounded by sometime in late 2022 or early 2023.
There is a lot of good info on the Lake and other Large Projects that we have on our website if you care to look it up. www.ntmwd.com

Glad to hear its moving forward. Wasn't it originally expected to open in 2018?


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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: RedEar12] #12117636 03/01/17 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: RedEar12


Lots of opposition to Marvin Nichols. Now, they are looking at raising Wright Patman 10 to 15' and sell that water to Dallas. The studies are taking shape now. If they do that, it will essentially be a new lake.


This has always been the easiest option for providing a substantial amount of water for North Texas. I've heard rumors, but still can't understand why it has never been seriously considered till now. Wright Patman has a 30' flood pool. 30'! And another 20' before maximum designed elevation! That would satisfy North Texas' water needs for many years...or at least until a new reservoir actually fills up to a usable level!

Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Jarrett Latta] #12117836 03/01/17 06:08 AM
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Hmm,

After the floods below Sam Rayburn, you would think common sense would be to build a new lake on the Sabine River above Rayburn.

But common sense will doom that. . .


That would be Toledo, not Rayburn...

And it has lakes already, tawakoni and fork...


oops. Yes it was Toledo on the Sabine....

But . . .
Tawakoni is basically the head water of the Sabine and Fork is only a feeder lake. Neither of the three are for flood control.

Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Go-Go Gadget] #12117896 03/01/17 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: Go-Go Gadget
For all of you Guys wondering if Bois D Arc is going to happen, let me ease your mind. We (NTMWD) should begin work on the Damn I April of 2018. Its not TCEQ holding us up it's the Corps of Engineers and their hurt feelings because NTMWD will not let them in on the operation of the Lake. It will be owned and operated by NTMWD. We have already got a Contractor hired to do the Damn and they are working on Mitigation efforts as we speak. The Raw water Pipelines are being designed to carry water to our new Water treatment Plant going in at Leonard and the Treated Water Pipeline from Leonard to McKinney is in design. After all that being said it's still a long way off but should be impounded by sometime in late 2022 or early 2023.
There is a lot of good info on the Lake and other Large Projects that we have on our website if you care to look it up. www.ntmwd.com


Great News

Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: LittleGazoo] #12118402 03/01/17 04:41 PM
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Not trying to be ugly but Rayburn is not on the Sabine, it is on the Attoyac and Angelina Rivers. Toledo Bend is on the Sabine.

Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Jpurdue] #12118440 03/01/17 04:50 PM
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Lake Hempstead would have been nice. Brazos river impoundment would be great in that area. Yup,Somerville and Bryan are nearby, there was talk in the 90's that Somerville was soon to be silted in,that lakes weren't made to last roflmao
Anyone still interested in Choke? Corp of engineers needs to get involved in cleaning drainages, creating waterways,and funneling water into her. Sad shape when most lakes are near full and she just there always half empty or more.

Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: RedEar12] #12118847 03/01/17 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: RedEar12
Originally Posted By: Bossbowman
Originally Posted By: RedRanger
Originally Posted By: Jpurdue
I know this topic comes up from time to time, but does anyone know if there is any real chatter on the possibility of a new impoundment in Texas at any point in the near future?


They opened Wheeler Branch a few years ago, Small lake, last I heard no outboards allowed.

Last year they closed it to all boats mad, you can only use a kayak there, good little lake. To the OP's topic next big reservoir is Marvin Nichols in east texas but probably serveral years away from becoming a reality.


Lots of opposition to Marvin Nichols. Now, they are looking at raising Wright Patman 10 to 15' and sell that water to Dallas. The studies are taking shape now. If they do that, it will essentially be a new lake.


Where is Marvin Nichols supposed to be located if it goes through?


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Re: New Reservoir in Texas [Re: Jpurdue] #12118931 03/01/17 08:22 PM
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"Marvin Nichols" dam would be close to HWY 259 and I-30 by New Boston (sulpher river)

http://www.tcatexas.org/marvin-nichols-reservoir/

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This 1984 map shows all the potential reservoir sites, https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/State_Water_Plan/1984/Plate%201%20reservoirs.pdf but 25 years later this maps shows alot of those sites removed https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/...%20-%202007.pdf I know tennesse colony reservoir near me got nixed because of some environmental reason, might have been an endangered species that would have been affected but not sure why the tehuacana creek one south of richland chambers was taken off the map.

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