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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 04:18 PM
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Mark Perry
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Brees has a SB ring and a ton of records.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: WAWI]
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01/17/17 04:25 PM
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Kicker16
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As pass happy as most offenses are the last 10 years and going forward I'm sure it won't change I suspect people will have to take a deep breathe when looking at some of the numbers. Clearly Peyton and Brady get in, beyond that it's hard to say. I suspect Rodgers is still making case for himself. Brees I just don't know. I think the bar for performance and winning should be very high for the hall. It's the hall of fame not the hall of above average. I don't think Brees can see over that wall.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Mark Perry]
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01/17/17 04:25 PM
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WAWI
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Brees has a SB ring and a ton of records. I know, Ben has 2 rings, Eli 2 rings. Brees is the poster child for pass happy offense. It will be interesting to watch. Brees is very popular and view as a good guy. It will be interesting to see how the good guy factor helps him as opposed to Ben for example
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Kicker16]
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01/17/17 07:21 PM
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swalker9513
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As pass happy as most offenses are the last 10 years and going forward I'm sure it won't change I suspect people will have to take a deep breathe when looking at some of the numbers. Clearly Peyton and Brady get in, beyond that it's hard to say. I suspect Rodgers is still making case for himself. Brees I just don't know. I think the bar for performance and winning should be very high for the hall. It's the hall of fame not the hall of above average. I don't think Brees can see over that wall. As a person who is vertically challenged, i take offense to this.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Mark Perry]
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01/17/17 07:26 PM
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swalker9513
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Brees and Rodgers get in. No question. Great QBs and media favorites. They get in. I think it depends on what they do once Brady retires, so they can be viewed as a player from a different era.
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Re: Look who's left
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01/17/17 09:22 PM
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Happykamper
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To say you are not sure if Rodgers gets in ? Wow
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Re: Look who's left
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01/17/17 09:37 PM
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1ShotNoKills
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To say you are not sure if Rodgers gets in ? Wow What's he done? 1 SB?
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: 1ShotNoKills]
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01/17/17 09:48 PM
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swalker9513
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To say you are not sure if Rodgers gets in ? Wow What's he done? 1 SB? yep and played his entire career in the shadows of Manning and Brady. There are 25 qbs in the HOF in the last 70 years. That's it. 25. It's not a participation award. Not everyone gets in.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 10:04 PM
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What does Ryan have in common with the other 3. He has not accomplished much in the playoffs during his career. You can make that argument if you want. I would say that he threw for almost 5000 yards this year. He had 38 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. His quarterback rating was 117. The other three have done it for a long time. He has put together a season that has been phenomenal. It's not like he was Trent Dilfer before. He definitely deserves to be in the conversation of one of the best in the game right now. As I said in another post, I think Rodgers is the best going right now. The other three are excellent players we are absolutely blessed with some good QB play in this league right now. Career awards and highlights 4 Pro Bowl selection (2006, 2007, 2009, 2014) Second-team All Pro (2014) NFC Passing Yards Leader (2009) NFC Passing Touchdowns Leader (2007) NFL Passer Rating Leader (2014) NFL Completion Percentage Leader (2014) 2 NFC Passer Rating Leader (2007, 2014) 3 FedEx Air Player of the Week (Week 1, 2007, Week 13, 2007, Week 5, 2013) 2 NFC Offensive Player of the Month Ed Block Courage Award (2011) went 31 td 10 int and 34 and 9 AND EVERYONE THINKS THIS PLAYER SUCKS.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: soggybottom]
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01/17/17 10:07 PM
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WAWI
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What does Ryan have in common with the other 3. He has not accomplished much in the playoffs during his career. You can make that argument if you want. I would say that he threw for almost 5000 yards this year. He had 38 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. His quarterback rating was 117. The other three have done it for a long time. He has put together a season that has been phenomenal. It's not like he was Trent Dilfer before. He definitely deserves to be in the conversation of one of the best in the game right now. As I said in another post, I think Rodgers is the best going right now. The other three are excellent players we are absolutely blessed with some good QB play in this league right now. Career awards and highlights 4 Pro Bowl selection (2006, 2007, 2009, 2014) Second-team All Pro (2014) NFC Passing Yards Leader (2009) NFC Passing Touchdowns Leader (2007) NFL Passer Rating Leader (2014) NFL Completion Percentage Leader (2014) 2 NFC Passer Rating Leader (2007, 2014) 3 FedEx Air Player of the Week (Week 1, 2007, Week 13, 2007, Week 5, 2013) 2 NFC Offensive Player of the Month Ed Block Courage Award (2011) went 31 td 10 int and 34 and 9 AND EVERYONE THINKS THIS PLAYER SUCKS. So you would take him ahead of the others if you were picking a team?
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 10:14 PM
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UGLYSHCTICK
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Getting into the NFL HOM This is the process. All mentioned will probably get nominated at some point and eventually entered.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 10:17 PM
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soggybottom
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if he were the same age as Ryan I would prob take Romo. I dont think that either are as good as the other three but as good as Breeze yes.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 10:21 PM
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soggybottom
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I do think to be elite you have to have a SB ring. period. just like in the NBA. For Qb its essential, because like in the NBA if you are the MAN you will get there somehow sooner or later. I think Luck will get there someday if he doesnt get screwed with the colts horrible office. It unfortunate that Romo never had the team to get him there before he started getting hurt, but if you have Rodgers there blocking you from the SB then so sorry thats life. You were NEVER the best QB in the league so no HOF.
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Re: Look who's left
[Re: Davedave]
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01/17/17 10:50 PM
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Longeye
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So your saying Dan Marino don't deserve to be in?
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Re: Look who's left
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01/17/17 11:07 PM
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glenls
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[/quote] As a person who is vertically challenged, i take offense to this. [/quote] Well sue the city for building the sidewalks too close to your butt!
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