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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/11/16 08:45 PM
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Streater
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I'm not worried about contamination. I'm worried about it shaking that fragile dam loose. The US Army Corp of Engineers are predicting it breaking soon, if they don't fix it.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Fab]
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02/11/16 09:49 PM
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dwmoore
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I'd say that's because you don't have at backyard that pays real good money.Everybody wants everything to be cheap and out of site.The coal mines are the same story gripe gripe gripe but I don't let there bill go up or there power go off .Nothing in this world is perfect but until we quit driving or using elec theses are the trade offs.Water in the near future is going to be the most valuable asset we have.Oh and I got probably 200 wells within 5 square miles around my house I ain't grippin I love me some cheap gas.Darrell
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Clark3]
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02/11/16 09:54 PM
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encKe
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I agree, my wells were fracked at 11,000 feet. waaaay beyond affecting any ground water.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/12/16 05:59 PM
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ddmm
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Frac it! Frac it now! there's lot of good folks that need the jobs to come back. This is Texas, the state made by the oil and gas industry (cattle also). Love it or leave it!
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/12/16 11:16 PM
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Scott in Flower Mound
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Frac it! Frac it now! there's lot of good folks that need the jobs to come back. This is Texas, the state made by the oil and gas industry (cattle also). Love it or leave it! Not sure one post on this topic has had anything to to do with crappie fishing. Time to move this topic to 'The Bunker'.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Scott in Flower Mound]
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02/12/16 11:56 PM
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Frac it! Frac it now! there's lot of good folks that need the jobs to come back. This is Texas, the state made by the oil and gas industry (cattle also). Love it or leave it! Not sure one post on this topic has had anything to to do with crappie fishing. Time to move this topic to 'The Bunker'. Why do care? Just skip the thread.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/13/16 03:01 AM
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A lot of folks on this forum crappie fish LL so I thought it would be valuable to share here. It's not a debate post. Just a simple information post.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/13/16 05:54 PM
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ACAMS
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LOL ..... I read every post here and you can tell who is oilfield and who is not!
Just for the record, and I know this has already been hashed, but frac has no K
5280 feet in a mile, and they frac 11,000' ft deep at minimum through a 7" O.D. pipe cemented in and perforated on bottom ..... the frac only spreads a few hundred feet at most that deep under that much pressure!
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/13/16 08:04 PM
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Clark3
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LOL ..... I read every post here and you can tell who is oilfield and who is not!
Just for the record, and I know this has already been hashed, but frac has no K
5280 feet in a mile, and they frac 11,000' ft deep at minimum through a 7" O.D. pipe cemented in and perforated on bottom ..... the frac only spreads a few hundred feet at most that deep under that much pressure! Yep I'm a Frac supervisor in south texas. Given not every well is the same, here our TVD is 7,000 ft in some areas and we use 5.5" casing but the fact is ignorance on the subject cracks me up. Those that have no clue how the process works yet still try to be an expert on the dangers of it are the problem. Like I said there are more contamination cases due to auto wrecks by every day pedestrians than oil and gas fields over the last 25 years
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Clark3]
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02/13/16 08:20 PM
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dwmoore
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Thanks Clark3 for the truth and keepin my friends a job and my bank account full .ha I got a well within 200 ft of my new house and another 500 ft .Your welcome for the hundreds of things that are produced from NG.Darrell
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Clark3]
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02/13/16 09:18 PM
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Scott in Flower Mound
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LOL ..... I read every post here and you can tell who is oilfield and who is not!
Just for the record, and I know this has already been hashed, but frac has no K
5280 feet in a mile, and they frac 11,000' ft deep at minimum through a 7" O.D. pipe cemented in and perforated on bottom ..... the frac only spreads a few hundred feet at most that deep under that much pressure! Yep I'm a Frac supervisor in south texas. Given not every well is the same, here our TVD is 7,000 ft in some areas and we use 5.5" casing but the fact is ignorance on the subject cracks me up. Those that have no clue how the process works yet still try to be an expert on the dangers of it are the problem. Like I said there are more contamination cases due to auto wrecks by every day pedestrians than oil and gas fields over the last 25 years Clark, I would be very curious to get you take on what was reported in the Dallas Morning News article I posted a few pages back on this thread. The information in that article doesn't cite fracking as dangerous if done correctly. Based on the article, the problems are with drillers who are not complying with the regulations, and who do not seem to be getting raked over the coals for not cementing per regulation. If this is correct, then there's a problem and a risk to groundwater because of their lack of adherence to regulations. Right???
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/14/16 03:01 AM
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ACAMS
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All wells are logged (checked by wireline) after cement jobs. The Railroad Commission checks the logs on all cement jobs, so they are regulated.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
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02/14/16 04:47 AM
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Scott in Flower Mound
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DALLAS A WFAA investigation of water contamination in the sprawling Barnett Shale natural gas field has uncovered what appear to be numerous violations by drillers apparently ignoring mandates to seal wells with cement in order to protect groundwater.
The Texas Railroad Commission, which regulates oil and gas activities, says it exercises appropriate oversight over drillers and is unaware of any documented case of a hydraulically fractured oil or gas well contaminating underground drinking water.
Presented with WFAAs findings -- which center on gas and oil wells drilled in Palo Pinto and Montague counties -- Cyrus Reed with the Lone Star Sierra Club says since the three elected Railroad Commissioners get roughly half of their campaign contributions from oil and gas industry insiders, enforcement is not a priority.
Im accusing them of being influenced by that money, and it clouding their judgment, he said.
A commission spokeswoman declined to comment on the role of campaign money in enforcement.
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Re: Theyre Going to Frack Under Lewisville Lake?
[Re: Clark3]
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02/14/16 08:53 AM
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JohnButte
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I never heard that the holes were as much of a problem as the fracking fluid. The Frac fluid is all flowed back when the well starts producing. Even at that it's 99% water mixed with a guar plant that is the same bean gum is made out of. The rest are house hold chemicals. Like I said everything is flowed back. The only way for any type of issue would be from a surface spill of some sort IE a truck turning over or a hose on the pad busting. These risk are the same risk as getting into a car wreck in a creek and leaking 8 gallons of antifreeze into a creek. Car accidents actually account for more environmental damage every year then the fracturing process. You serious, Clark? You can make some pretty fun stuff out of common household chemicals. Crystal meth, bath salts, pipe bombs, etc. Not that I do, mind you. Just not quite so dismissive of household chemicals.
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