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Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 12:03 PM
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Crappieitis
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Any signs of it recovering in your opinion?
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
[Re: Crappieitis]
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09/08/15 12:56 PM
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epicoutdoors
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It's undeniable that a reasonable percentage of grass in our lakes is benificial to both fish and fishermen alike. Unfortunately, at least from a fishermans perspective, this is why any significant grass will very likely continue to be a thing of the past. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community...s-water-303.ece
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
[Re: Crappieitis]
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09/08/15 12:58 PM
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snickers
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Nope. it will never be like it use to be.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 01:19 PM
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KingwoodCat
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Invasive plant growth tends to run in cycles. The high water on Rayburn this spring killed off a lot of the hydrilla, so the fish are relating more to the terestrial grasses. It will be back though.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 01:35 PM
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epicoutdoors
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Invasive plant growth tends to run in cycles. The high water on Rayburn this spring killed off a lot of the hydrilla, so the fish are relating more to the terestrial grasses. It will be back though. With the DWU Pump Station on line now, it's very doubtful that they are going to allow any significant grass growth to take place. The population explosion in the Dallas area will soon begin to put Lake Forks water resource to use.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
[Re: Crappieitis]
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09/08/15 01:43 PM
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Kay Dyson
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I was under the impression that the SRA or TPW controlled the habitat of the lake.. Water is water and grass is grass, they would only need to maintain a clear area around the intake, I would assume. But we all know what assume can getcha...
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 02:02 PM
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tin man 55
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where is the water intake for the DWU pump station?
I agree with redskeeter; let the grass grow and keep the area around the intake clear. that shouldn't be too hard....
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 02:05 PM
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RangerBass21
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Well clearing it last time killed it all and the hard winter .....
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 02:19 PM
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epicoutdoors
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Lake Fork had bountiful grass growth for most of it's existence until the the constuction began on the pump station. It seems more than just a coincidence that as completion of the pump station drew nearer that the grass became more sparse and is now hard to find. I have to give more credit to it's virtual disappearance than just the weather. It appears that hydrilla or submergent vegetation of any kind is not to be tolerated on a statewide level.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 02:44 PM
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snickers
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Hydrilla seeds. That would fix the problem.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 02:54 PM
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RedRanger
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I have to give more credit to it's virtual disappearance than just the weather. It appears that hydrilla or submergent vegetation of any kind is not to be tolerated on a statewide level. Agreed....
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 03:01 PM
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Kay Dyson
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What I witnessed in the winters of 2011 and 2012 was low water conditions, about 9 million coots, and record low temp's, my cove froze over several times. What the freezing temps didn't kill the coots ate, I'd watch them migrate from the main lake to the coves every morning like clock work and just destroy whatever they could reach.. In our case it was mixture of nature and government. About that same time frame they sprayed the Hyacinth, which was redundant because the hard winters took care of it on it's own. Sadly the spraying also killed some of the grass along with the blanket of dead hyacinth sinking in the shallows preventing a reemergence of grass.. I was happy to see grass come back like it has in Glade and Birch creeks.. This is just my opinion on what went down as I saw it, I was on the water over 120 days a year during those time periods...
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 03:54 PM
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epicoutdoors
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Completely agree that natural causes have contributed to the current situation. You certainly have a good overview of the lake on an ongoing basis and I have observed the same. Fishing grass is productive and enjoyable for most of us and I hate to see the way that it seems to be delt with by the powers that be. Kind of the "nuclear option" mentality when it comes to controlling submergent vegetation.
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 06:41 PM
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OzzieFish
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I understand Cedar Creek once had grass... it never came back that I know of...
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Re: Will the grass ever recover on Fork
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09/08/15 07:02 PM
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heybaylor
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Lake Fork had bountiful grass growth for most of it's existence until the the constuction began on the pump station. It seems more than just a coincidence that as completion of the pump station drew nearer that the grass became more sparse and is now hard to find. I have to give more credit to it's virtual disappearance than just the weather. It appears that hydrilla or submergent vegetation of any kind is not to be tolerated on a statewide level. wonder why the "winters" and weather did not kill the grass in Hawkins, Gilmer, Quitman, and Winnsboro ?? even the grass carp have not wiped out Hawkins
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