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 Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 02:38 PM
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slshaneus
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boy a sucker born every minute! who the h3ll buys a boat and finances it for 12 years??? total cost of boat 65,630 for a nitro you pay 15k in interest...
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 02:57 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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Yep I agree and people buy these and other brands all the time in terms this long and longer ........ The interest would probably be more than you calculated because I think they deduct a 10% down payment......
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2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 06:02 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Yep! Sweet looking rig, buy that sucker, take it to the lake and enjoy....... And lose 33-40% of the value of what you paid in 12 months on a brand new Nitro. Nitro's are the Hyundai's of bass boats.
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 06:19 PM
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So $50,000 for a boat with no electronics and no power pole?
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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08/16/15 06:39 PM
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So $50,000 for a boat with no electronics and no power pole? Or a max HP for the boat
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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08/16/15 06:46 PM
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you don't have to buy a ranger to win tournaments just observe the weigh in of most club events. If someone likes nitro so be it. As for resale you pay more so you should get more back but don't give me this percentage [censored]. what is it with people that think they are special just because the choice made on a particular boat. Get a life go fishing quit worrying about it. J D 
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 08:07 PM
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I, personally, think the Nitro lineup is the best LOOKING boats made. Maybe they are cheaply made...maybe not. I know I've had one in the past and the only thing about it that DIDNT suck was the Nitro part. Lol. The motor, TM, charger, electronics, all were problems. And as far as I know, the problem parts are pretty much the same brands used in the over priced boats.
So... Mercury Pro XS. Same on all boats
MinnKota Fortex... Same on all boats
Lowrance/Hummingbird...same on all boats
Interstate Batteties....same on all boats
PowerPole/Talon...same on all boats
They almost all use the same brand bilge and live well pumps.
Atlas jack plates
Show me where the real advantage of buying a 60,000 dollar Skeeter, Ranger, Legend, Phoenix,etc vs a $35,000 Nitro equipped the same. Even if the Nitro depreciated rapidly, it would still be just as dependable to fish from. A $25,000 premium to "stay dry"? Haha. I used to pole down my boat and jump in to get wet. Lol.
When I get my new boat, it will likely be another Nitro. I have been on the fence at buying a Ranger. I just keep coming home after talking myself out of laying down $20,000 MORE for the same Mercury 250 Pro XS motor, Fortrex 112 TM, Hummingbird electronics, hotfoot, Interstate Batteries, MinnKota 4bank charger, dual power poles, etc that come on a $49,000 Nitro Z8. The Ranger equipped the same way is $65,000!
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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08/16/15 08:08 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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Yep! Sweet looking rig, buy that sucker, take it to the lake and enjoy....... And lose 33-40% of the value of what you paid in 12 months on a brand new Nitro. Nitro's are the Hyundai's of bass boats. Yep experienced this first hand..... Went from a Ranger to a Nitro but that being said I had my best run of tournament wins fishing out of a Tracker TX-17 tin can with a 60 horse on back........ This Z21 could be a game changer for Nitro and here's how they could do it....the folks @ Nitro could change this perseption just by simply showing the boat buying public how these boats are constructed on their website and in their brochures like Skeeter, Ranger, etc...... They don't have to show the whole thing just what makes the hull strong. Like I said previously they seem to want us to know all about how they build a trailer but I'm not going to be dragging their trailer through a stump field.........In the end its all in what you want.....I really like this Z21 and as soon as I get the money saved up to put me in a rig I will go back and look again........
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2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 08:32 PM
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The difference I have seen in a Nitro vs. Other brands seems to be things like hinges, etc. Again I have owned a ChampioN and now a Skeeter. BIL owns a Nitro and have fished out of it a lot. His seats are tearing badly, hinges are poor quality, the finish on the inside is poor. His front deck is sagging where he stands. My ChampioN was an '96 and much etter shape than his '07. My '04 skeeter is in better shape and he babies the heck out of that thing. Maybe those little things have been improved but I don't know. The thing that gets me is. The base model Nitros have nothing and once you upgrade everything it really isn't that far off the other brands. The other thing I hear a lot is Bass Pro, I have gone in one and the guy knows jack squat about them and this has been in more than 1 Bass pro.
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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08/16/15 08:37 PM
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I, personally, think the Nitro lineup is the best LOOKING boats made. Maybe they are cheaply made...maybe not. I know I've had one in the past and the only thing about it that DIDNT suck was the Nitro part. Lol. The motor, TM, charger, electronics, all were problems. And as far as I know, the problem parts are pretty much the same brands used in the over priced boats.
So... Mercury Pro XS. Same on all boats
MinnKota Fortex... Same on all boats
Lowrance/Hummingbird...same on all boats
Interstate Batteties....same on all boats
PowerPole/Talon...same on all boats
They almost all use the same brand bilge and live well pumps.
Atlas jack plates
Show me where the real advantage of buying a 60,000 dollar Skeeter, Ranger, Legend, Phoenix,etc vs a $35,000 Nitro equipped the same. Even if the Nitro depreciated rapidly, it would still be just as dependable to fish from. A $25,000 premium to "stay dry"? Haha. I used to pole down my boat and jump in to get wet. Lol.
When I get my new boat, it will likely be another Nitro. I have been on the fence at buying a Ranger. I just keep coming home after talking myself out of laying down $20,000 MORE for the same Mercury 250 Pro XS motor, Fortrex 112 TM, Hummingbird electronics, hotfoot, Interstate Batteries, MinnKota 4bank charger, dual power poles, etc that come on a $49,000 Nitro Z8. The Ranger equipped the same way is $65,000! I agree with this completely. I also bought a Nitro for these reasons.
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Der Vorsteher]
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08/16/15 08:38 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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The difference I have seen in a Nitro vs. Other brands seems to be things like hinges, etc. Again I have owned a ChampioN and now a Skeeter. BIL owns a Nitro and have fished out of it a lot. His seats are tearing badly, hinges are poor quality, the finish on the inside is poor. His front deck is sagging where he stands. My ChampioN was an '96 and much etter shape than his '07. My '04 skeeter is in better shape and he babies the heck out of that thing. Maybe those little things have been improved but I don't know. The thing that gets me is. The base model Nitros have nothing and once you upgrade everything it really isn't that far off the other brands. The other thing I hear a lot is Bass Pro, I have gone in one and the guy knows jack squat about them and this has been in more than 1 Bass pro. This is why I say it is all in what you want....... Because these boats do cost as much as a Skeeter, Bass Cat, 100 Series Ranger, etc., equally rigged, and they will have to prove their quality and that can only be done over the long haul......
Last edited by ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50); 08/16/15 08:42 PM.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 08:42 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Frankly, I want them to turn it around. Heard to many horror stories of carpet coming up after 1 year, seats tearing at the seems at 6 months, hinges breaking and being loose after 1 year etc. CLEARLY Nitro has made a cheaper boat in the past. They have always had good looking boats, but who gives a rip about that when you are sitting in a boat that is falling apart after 2 years and you paid $50k-$55k for it and now it's worth $25k-$30k. I have seen it time and time again, a guy walks into BPS gets all fired up because they're pretty and shiny, buys it on whim and 2 years later he's on here trying to sell and he has a snowball's chance in h*ll of selling it for payoff and ultimately has to have it repossessed or keep it. Hopefully by reading this thread a guy or two can save themselves the headache of buying new Nitro from BPS and having that problem in a couple years when they decide they want out. That's all. Not trying to start a fight, just using facts and common sense to try and help. To each his own, if you want a Nitro, go for it, I truly hope it works out for you. 
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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08/16/15 10:24 PM
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Like stated above. You
Are looking at 50k for a empty boat. Add two hds12s for 6500$ them 300$ to mount them. Along with twin blades at 3800 plus brackets 200$. And one hour labor. So about 61k for the boat rigged..... I was honestly disappointed with the z21 interior. Plastic breaks and there is a lot of it. The nitro's market is mainly the first time buyer. Price all of the other big names and it'll suprise you what you can purchase. Also when comparing to a skeeter calculate the additional 3k for the yamaha sho motor. Mercury pro xs is the cheapest engine available.
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Andrew Y'Barbo]
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08/16/15 10:41 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Like stated above. You
Are looking at 50k for a empty boat. Add two hds12s for 6500$ them 300$ to mount them. Along with twin blades at 3800 plus brackets 200$. And one hour labor. So about 61k for the boat rigged..... I was honestly disappointed with the z21 interior. Plastic breaks and there is a lot of it. The nitro's market is mainly the first time buyer. Price all of the other big names and it'll suprise you what you can purchase. Also when comparing to a skeeter calculate the additional 3k for the yamaha sho motor. Mercury pro xs is the cheapest engine available.
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Re: Nitro changes line up for 2016
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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08/16/15 11:03 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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Like stated above. You
Are looking at 50k for a empty boat. Add two hds12s for 6500$ them 300$ to mount them. Along with twin blades at 3800 plus brackets 200$. And one hour labor. So about 61k for the boat rigged..... I was honestly disappointed with the z21 interior. Plastic breaks and there is a lot of it. The nitro's market is mainly the first time buyer. Price all of the other big names and it'll suprise you what you can purchase. Also when comparing to a skeeter calculate the additional 3k for the yamaha sho motor. Mercury pro xs is the cheapest engine available. this would explain the lack of construction info...... That being said the Nitro I had I owned 5 years and I never had a single issue with it but it was kept indoors under a cover and maticulously cared for........
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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