Fouz thank you for your reply. I am 100% with you. I totally agree with you about directly competing with bass for food and I absolutely agree gar eat some bass. I do not doubt falcon has an over abundance of gar. Why now all of the sudden after how many ever years the lake has been impounded? Why not same problem at amistad? Why not Texoma? Don't know maybe you have a great answer. As I have stated I do not agree with the witch hunt lets kill all AG because they eat all our bass and so on and so on I have read on SOMEBODY's blog/report. Used to be a frequent reader until the kill every gar rampage. I understand some of you have not read the rants and raves written about gar but he/you definately said AG eat trophy bass and the decline in bass is due to over abundance of gar along with other things. I have faith in TPWD and they have made the best decision for us and my kids.

I know your part of world pretty well. I am Cotulla right this second as I type this message.

Repeat question
Does the bag limit apply to the Mexican side of the lake?

No, but you better not bring more than the U.S. limit back across to the U.S. side. Probably a good idea to drive to Mexico and put in on their side and stay over there if you want to keep more than the daily bag limit in the U.S.

I have answered all these questions in this same thread.. If you read it.. At this point I am done explaining..
Won't make any difference to you anyway..

There arnt enough bow fisherman to bring down the gar population IMO

If they were serious about keeping the population in check they would allow commercial fishing. My buddy is a bow fishing guide.... Maybe he will book more trips due to the increase in the limit, it's a blast shooting a big gar with a bow. They don't taste bad either.

So I've caught or seen atleast 10 bass in my life with crappie in there mouth. Maybe the crappie fisherman should consider a petition to raise the bass harvest limits. What's good for the goose is good for the gander right?

That's about the dumbest post ever typed on the forum. Please do explain how a bass that has many predators willing to eat them and keeps its population in check through nature has anything in common with a fish that has a 1 per day limit, grows 7' long, can weigh 200lbs and only has man as it's predator.


Or shall I word it more along the lines of "what in your opinion kills gar, other than man, of course"?

7'? They get a helluva lot bigger than that buddy

If you need help on who to call or write to get your idea into law let me know.. We did not use petitions.. Just people with common sense..

James answered your question that I put in bold print.

"While it may be true that gar have been in the lake forever, their population had been balanced by commercial fishermen.. When the harvest was limited to one per day, it stopped all the Texas commercial fishing.. Six years ago the cartel presence ran off the Mexican gar fishermen, and they have not returned."


Witch hunt?.....nah, we would like to see the population put back in check. After talking to a commercial gar fishermen from Louisiana last year I highly doubt that we will be able to get this population under control until guys like him come back. That won't happen at a 5 fish a day limit unfortunately.

Falcon isn't fishing like it did several years ago for several reasons.....the gar population is only part of the puzzle, but it's a part of the puzzle, like Mr. Bean mentioned, that we can and should make every effort to impact.


I will now remove myself from this thread......lol. Have a great night TFF

If you as me I'd say it's to damn late ! I guess maybe one day that poor lake will rebound.

Gars are worthless and am all for fishing for and killing the heck out of them. If the folks across the border can make tacos out of them, even better. But I bet there are millions of gar in that lake. Or at least half a million at the least. Fishing and harvesting them not even gonna make a dent. As long as there is enough food to support the current population, it's not gonna change.

Falcon took a serious dive and most of the bass died here in the last couple yrs. Same thing in Amistad. It's only sensible to come to the conclusion that it was some kind of pollution or virus in the water. It started up at Amistad and washed down to Falcon clearly. The fish that remain appear to be healthy and growing. But the populations of bass appear to be less than 10% of where they were just 3 yrs ago. Gonna take years to get better. Only thing TWPD can do to help Falcon and Amistad is stock the [censored] out of those lakes with fingerlings as many times as possible over the next few years.

We did not use a petition.. We used people with common sense .. But if you need names and numbers to call to get your petition going let me know..

James Thanks for all you do to try To keep Falcon a premier fishing spot in this country, anybody that reads your website knows you have pointed out every issue affecting the bass fishing at Falcon mentioned in this thread. You were doing that when Rosy was a swimsuit model. Keep on doing what you do brother.

I was just making a point. If u read my first post u will see that I said that if tp@w says the limit needs to be changed then it needs to be changed. But people on here act as if gar are the main reason for bass populations decreasing and that's simply untrue. If there are too many then yes it's a problem, but a healthy population of gar is good for a lake. I bass fish 4 times a wk guys. I wasn't trying to stir the pot. Think about this, don't u think a 5-5 lb fatty eats just as many small bass as a gar.