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Re: when you scan or search [Re: lookingfor25] #10154695 07/22/14 02:21 AM
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If ya want to keep piles a secret, put em in private lakes.
The potlicking, the buggywhip, and the whining about people fishing brushpiles on public waters gets old quick.

Starting to sound like the northern and east coast clowns from alt.rec.outdoors.fishing newsgroup from old.


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Re: when you scan or search [Re: lookingfor25] #10154859 07/22/14 03:09 AM
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Here's a legitimate question. When I'm buggywhippin crappie I've noticed that on a couple of different down imaging units, particularly the 300 series and the 700 series Humminbirds that the brush piles don't look as substantial on down imaging as they do as they do on the same unit on 2d. My 500 series Humminbird with down imaging and my 4x Lowrance (which is down imaging only) appear to show the piles better. What gives? I mean they look smaller on di with the 300 and 700 Humminbirds.

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Thought I saw that lowrance is coming out with a gen 2 potlicker filter soon nuts.
Originally Posted By: machinist
I have a graph question also. How does one go about setting up his graph to tell me that nutoy or tbox or whomever
put the brushpile in the lake. Is there a way to tell a natural brushpile from a manmade brushpile? Just checking
cause I have only been doing this 40 years or so and I damn sure don't know how to tell.

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Re: when you scan or search [Re: Nutoy] #10155270 07/22/14 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nutoy
Originally Posted By: Ketchn
this thread sure sounds like some super high end POTLICKING to me rolfmao
K A B O O M slinger

Kinda what I was thinking.
Not trying to come off as a @##, but the best way to find brush piles is to make or collect concrete weights, cut brush material of choice, go sink it in the lake and mark a waypoint.
Coming from a guy that puts out and maintains 25-30 brush piles a year, there is nothing more aggravating then to head to a brush pile that you sweated like a dog to put out, only to have a boat sitting on top of it reeping the rewards of your hard work. Only thing that tops that is when you go back a few days later, the s ame boat and three of his buddies are camped out on it raping it clean, and they have the gall to tell you to stay off THIER brush pile.
Another is the ones that will idle up to within 10 feet of you like they don't see you and mark a waypoint.
Is that what we've come to with the high end electronics available these days???



Well Nutoy if you did not want to come across as an a&& hole you should have just passed
this post on by! Now with that said, did you ever stop to THINK THAT maybe I am trying to figure out
how to scan bridges or just maybe have a new graph, or that I want to scan my own piles better!

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Re: when you scan or search [Re: lookingfor25] #10155274 07/22/14 11:35 AM
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By the way Nutoy welcome to the forum


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Re: when you scan or search [Re: lookingfor25] #10155327 07/22/14 12:11 PM
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I can u/s how it can be frustrating to put in the work, effort, elbow grease and sweat to put in a bunch of bp's and then find folks on them constantly, but that's the nature of the beast. Once in public waters, public property, plain and simple.
I plan to make most of mine out of PVC, which is supposed to be harder to find noidea
But, I'm doing this due to weight and now having a smaller boat.

This thread was originally about SI settings, yet here we go back to this subject again and the treating of folks like they do in another section of this forum.


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Re: when you scan or search [Re: lookingfor25] #10155341 07/22/14 12:22 PM
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Well, I guess if finding brushpiles, setting a waypoint, and fishing them makes me a potlicker....then I'm the head potlicker. Been doing it since I bought my first Lowrance 'green box', and not the least bit ashamed.

But back to the subject of this post; yes, I run side scan and down scan at the same time, all the time, and I never run my range on the side scan past 50. If a pile is built low and wide, it can be very hard to pick up and especially if you're running your side scan way the hell and gone out there. Also, the bucket condos or pole condos can be almost impossible to see with just side scan set at wide ranges.

So if you want to be successful at potlicking, as some of the more 'professional' fishermen on this post have called it, set you unit in accordance with the above. Good luck and hope you find a bunch.


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Hey LF25 finding brush piles isn't as difficult as finding brush piles with crappie on them. From personal experience, I used to move way too fast. Since I learned to slow way down and take my time in a section of water at a time its gotten so much easier to check out the sticks, rocks, stumps and junk laying on the bottom of our lakes.

Anyone have any idea what settings I need to look at changing on a 300 series and 700 series Humminbird to get the DI to show brush better? Seriously, the screen shows little to nothing of the large stack of wood that i know is down there. Like I said before my 4x Lowrance and 500 series Humminbird show a very detailed picture, right down to the seeing the bucket at the bottom of bamboo sometimes.

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contrast settings maybe ?
we almost went for a boat ride this morning .....btw rolfmao
but I am getting a bit lazy in my ole age breakdance

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PNSP use the DI enhance to bring up sensitivity, contrast, and sharpness. Most of what I have learned is by watching Doug's videos and spending time on the water or if I get on the water and can't figure something out coming back and finding it in the videos.

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does that new 688 hummingbird di thingee I put on the minnow have that in the menu area ?

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Originally Posted By: tboxfish
Originally Posted By: Hookn_Stix
If I go fish a new lake and have no prior knowledge of where to find crappie, what do you suppose I am to do. I guess I could have gone to the lake 6 months in advance, dropped my own brush piles and just hoped they would be holding fish.

Nope, I set the graph at 120ft, max sensitivity, 800khz and start marking.



I'm not going to tell you where these are going, but if you find them, I hope they are holding MONSTER CRAPPIE for you.



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On the "potlicking" rant... At what point do all the PVC brush piles become litter? Just saying because if everyone puts out 5 a year in 10 years that's 50 brush piles and if everyone is only 100 people, that would be 5000 brush piles. PVC lasts for a LONG time as does the concrete that is weighting down. I realize that these are natural "reefs" , but...

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I think the menu on the DI view is the same on all units. In the DI view hit the menu button and you are looking for DI enhance should be about two down on the pull down menu.


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Thanks for the welcome LF25.

Let me add something to this that I should have put in my very first post, because it probably wouldn't be seen now that this has gone to multiple pages.

When refering to brush piles, I wasn't talking about "natural" piles or bridge pillings. On T-Bend, there are VERY few natural brush piles that are not attached to the bank. ie: fallen trees.

I myself have high end electronics. They are used mostly for bass fishing, but I also use them to mark and look at the brush piles I've put out.

Have I ever found someone elses pile with them, sure. Did I fish it, yes. Did I repeatedly camp out on it and tell every lazy slob about it. NO... but if that makes me a potlicker, well I'm guilty as charged.

So in a nut shell, there are three types of people when it comes to brush piles.
1. Those that spend the time, do the work and spend the money to put out piles with the expectation of reaping the rewards of thier hard work.
2. Those that find a brush pile, catch a few fish off it and move on. He may also drop a few piles or maybe not. He doesn't get on his cell phone or post a ad in the local paper with coordinates. No guy that hauls out brush piles will have a problem with this guy.
3. The true potlicker/poacher. The guy that spends thousands of dollars on electronics with the SOLE intention of finding brush piles that were put out by other people, has no intention of ever getting off thier lazy @$$ and putting out thier own, and then tells all the other lazy potlickers where the piles are and then tells you to stay off "thier" brush pile. As stated earlier, the typical Obama voter.

The guys that say they've been doing this for decades and can't tell the difference between a natural pile or a manmade one, you might want to upgrade your electronics.
The guys that use the "IT's public water line,, Thats the line that the true potlickers use the most. It's called respect.

Should I have stayed out of this,, maybe,, NAAAAaaaa.

Everthing I have posted is directed at the #3 true potlickers. They know who they are. If it makes them fell the least little bit bad about reaping the rewards of someone elses hard work, I've accomplished what I intended to do.

If you don't fall under the #3 catagory, holler at me next time you are on the Bend and we'll go wack some slabs and have a few
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