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Lake Texoma #5219960
08/20/10 04:18 PM
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does anyone else have the scoop on the stipers??? I spoke to a guide last night that told me that there were fish dying by the hundreds and they were catching nothing but skinny fish. If they are dying off,whats the reason????


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Re: Lake Texoma [Re: j.little] #5220305
08/20/10 05:18 PM
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probably fish that are getting caught and released... coming out of deep water + hot water = bad news for most fish. I am sure someone with more knowledge will give a more accurate answer, but I think I may be partly right anyways.

Re: Lake Texoma [Re: scooter79] #5220692
08/20/10 06:40 PM
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Think the shad die off from winter would have anything to do with it?


Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Shep M] #5220757
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This subject is getting beat like a rented mule on sixoldgeezers. Hot water (91deg) and c&r is having a bad result. A striper released after a hard fight this time of year is toast. They are in terrible shape anyway. You're not doing any favors releasing them now. If you gotta go after them, keep them. They are skinny and not much punkin'. The kills are by the boat shows.


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Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Kahuna] #5220773
08/20/10 06:59 PM
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By the way Shep, the gizzards were not affected and the threadfin are coming back already. Reports of threads being caught. Wait 'til cool weather they will be fine.


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Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Kahuna] #5221930
08/20/10 11:58 PM
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Don't know who the guide was or where he is talking about but I was there this morning with Chris Carey http://www.striperexpress.com/, caught a three man limit by 8:15 all on top. Saw ZERO floaters. Fish where typical shape for August but were agressive and hungry. I fought one over for at least 5 minutes pulling hard and finally landed.

Re: Lake Texoma [Re: SteveStrasemeier] #5222889
08/21/10 06:41 AM
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Had a pretty good catch a couple of weeks ago. Fish were in fair shape, but their stomachs were empty. My uncle caught some threadfin there last week. Sure tickled to hear that!


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Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Duckcreek Davy] #5225907
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From http://stripersgalore.blogspot.com/





Catch and Release of Striped Bass

Catch and Release Kills Stripers!

I am asked many times a year “when we catch our limit of stripers are we done”, I have always tried to explain the reasons why we shouldn't, and most people understand and agree that we have to protect the fisheries not only for my livelihood but for our children and their children to come.

A study has shown that recreational anglers may be killing over 1.3 million striped bass a year unintentionally, these are fish that are hooked in the mouth (not gut or gill hooked) and it’s due to the stress and trauma of the catch.

Research conducted at the Texas Tech Department of Range, Wildlife, and Fisheries Management published in the North American Journal of Fisheries Management their findings on hooking mortality of some 1,200 striped bass, a huge and quite meaningful sample size from fish caught and released from across the southern United States. They pulled information from previous hooking mortality studies done in North and South Carolina, Maryland, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Texas. The findings could have implications to striper fisheries across the country.

Dr. Gene Wilde led the research looking into how type of baits and water temperature affected the mortality rate of striped bass practicing catch and release. The study essentially asked: Are fish caught on live baits more susceptible to die from injury than one caught on artificial baits? And temperature, the warmer the water the worse for wears? Here's what Dr. Wilde and his team’s research found.

Regardless of bait type, 29 percent of striped bass caught and released died within three days. But compared between bait types, it was higher for fish caught on live baits, 42 percent. For artificial baits mortality was a much lower 25 percent.


But bait type alone didn't explain the variation. Water temperature figures prominently in whether fish will survive. Simply put, the warmer the water, the more likely a released striper is to perish, regardless of size. Water temperatures climbing into the 80s, nearly 70 percent of stripers caught on natural baits and 57 percent caught on artificial baits, perished.

According to Dr. Wilde, the exact implications of his findings to striper populations will vary from water to water, but to him, one thing is clear.
"Our results do call into question catch-and-release fishing, especially in summer," said Wilde. Catch and release is viewed as having little effect on populations, but when more than 30 percent of fish die, even in cooler water, I have a hard time justifying releasing fish.

This evidence is convincing to me and I hope it is for you. When and how you fish for stripers has a lasting impact on our fisheries. According to Wilde's research, we do have a choice. Go out, have fun, try to catch your limit, and come back another day to do it all over again

Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Ranger R] #5225999
08/22/10 03:01 PM
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GREAT INFO THERE MR.RANGER

Re: Lake Texoma [Re: Hydra Sport] #5226877
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Just got back from Texoma just now. Slow yesterday evening but a man limit this morning in less than two hours.Saw maybe three fish on the west end floating.Released half that many more as did the guides I that I saw and knew in the boat show.

Re: Lake Texoma [Re: rhawk] #5228358
08/23/10 03:41 AM
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Thanks for the info RangerR


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