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Humminbird SONAR
Posted By: jsplinter
Humminbird SONAR - 05/30/11 05:08 PM
These threads will be used for information on each selected brand of SONAR. As of right now they will remain unlocked so that someone with questions can ask and hopefully receive the help they need. Please respect the idea behind these and keep the cross brand fighting out. If it becomes an issue the threads will be locked.
I would like to thank Doug Vahrenberg for the Humminbird info
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:09 PM
Digital Sonar - An ExplanationSonar by its very nature uses an "analog" sound wave that is transmitted
into the water by the fishfinder transmitter. These sound waves travel
into the water on a carrier frequency such as 200kHz. These sound waves
echo off the bottom, fish, and structure creating many varying sonar
echoes that return back to the receiver on the analog frequency. This
analog signal is then converted to digital within the fishfinder by
virtually all marine electronics companies - the differences lie in what
point within the sonar system the conversion takes place. Those promoting
"digital" sonar convert these analog signals to digital within a sonar
receiver itself. Humminbird converts analog signals using the analog to
digital capability of the on-board microprocessor. Therefore, Humminbird
offers digital technology, however the conversion from analog to digital
just occurs differently that what is being promoted by others. It is
interesting to note that Humminbird has been converting analog to digital
in this manner since
1989. Infinite Variable BandwidthsFurther benefits of units marketed as "digital" sonar include technology
such as adaptive transmitters, and "virtually" infinite variable
bandwidths. It is important for the consumer to know that these benefits
are not limited to the methodology of the so called "digital" sonar
products. If fact these and other techniques are central to Humminbird's
Professional Grade Sonar. Humminbird transmitter design offers adaptive
technology that modulates power and pulse width based on conditions.
Additionally, our receiver offers variable bandwidth and wide 90db dynamic
range to hear both high and low intensity signals simultaneously. Another
key benefit touted by marketers of "digital" sonar is the use of filtering
algorithms in their design to remove unwanted noise and clutter. The use
of filtering techniques produces results counter to the desires of all
anglers, since these "intelligent" algorithms actually remove information
that is important to the angler - such as detail in structure and fish.
This is clearly evident when comparing on-water sonar images from the
"digital" products to the same structure when viewed by a Humminbird
product.
Dual Beam Plus Sonar:200kHz @ 20 Degrees (1/3 of Depth Area of Coverage)
83kHz @ 60 Degrees (Equal Coverage Area of Depth)
See the additional fish with the benefit of added Coverage Area the 83 kHz
provides. It is recommended to run 200/83 Combined for finding fish. If
using for High Speed running for Depth 200 kHz narrow coverage area will
produce less turbulence in the image due to narrower coverage area.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:11 PM
Switchfire 2D Sonar - two sonar operating systemsClear Mode: Is a precision sonar system that has some special
features. Time Variable Gain times the distance the sonar returns have
travelled and allow the unit to size fish no matter the depths so the same
physical size fish are displayed equally on the display. So a 5 Pound fish
will be represented the same size on the display at 10' as it is at 100'
as it is at 1000'. Clear Mode also filters out small particle returns like
aeration, algae, plankton, etc so it shows only fish and structure. Clear
Mode also has the ability to adjust the power of the unit and is the best
choice for shallow water applications as it balances the power to the
depth.
Max Mode: Is unfiltered data that can use returns from the sonar
side lobes thus increasing the data returned to the unit and easier for
jig tracking when vertical fishing. The unfiltered data also returns small
particle data like plankton, algae, air bubbles, etc. The sonar return are
displayed exactly as they are received so the fish returns diminish over
depth for the same physical size fish.
Both of the top Images are with factory default settings for both modes of
Switchfire 2D Sonar. Look at the detail that Humminbird 2D soanr can
produce without creating a blob of color of the bridge. This same image
will be shown in Down Imaging and Side Imaging to compare the detail.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:11 PM
Down Imaging from Side Imaging:797c2, 798c, 898c, 981c, 987c, 997c, 998c, 1197c, 1198c
Humminbird offers Down Imaging to all Side Imaging owners and an industry
exclusive user selectable coverage area:
Wide is approximately 1.5 Times Depth
Medium is approximately same as depth
Narrow is approximately 1/3 of depth
Dual Frequency: 455 kHz or 800kHz
The signal returns are more box shaped versus cone shape of 2D sonar. It
is very narrow beam front to rear to produce high detail images. Look at
the ditches in this image that 2D sonars wide coverage area could not show
the details. This was captured with 200 kHz 2D sonar to try and capture
the detail but still had to large front to rear coverage to produce the
details that Down Imaging or Side Imaging does.
Down Imaging produces picture like images of down looking sonar and is a
great tool to transitional tool from 2D sonar to high frequency sonar.
Down Imaging helps to positively ID fish and structure. Can you find the
three trees with Crappie?
Dedicated Down Imaging: Humminbird also offers dedicated Down Imaging with Switchfire 2D Only
units: 570 DI, 596c HD DI, 597ci HD DI, 788ci HD DI. These units feature a
transducer that has both Traditional 2D Sonar with Switchfire Sonar
processing system and Down Imaging.
455kHz (DI) is like Wide Beam 1.5 times the depth coverage area
800kHz (DI) is equal to depth coverage
200kHz (2D) is 1/3 of depth coverage
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:14 PM
Side Imaging:Humminbird introduced affordable, boat mounted side scan sonar in 2004 and
have been adding new features and improvements since then. Side Imaging
sonar has a unique features that give the user picture like images of
everything under the water's surface. Plus the user can tell exactly which
side of the transducer the data comes from. This huge coverage area,
positive structure and fish ID of high frequency sonar makes it the
ultimate tool for fish and structure finding.
Coverage Area is user defined by the amount of area they wish to scan up
to 240' foot to each side for a total of 480' of coverage in a single pass
and maximum depth of 150'.
455kHz is 180 Degrees of coverage area - 90 Degrees to each side
800kHz is 110 Degrees of coverage area - 55 Degrees to each side
These images show the shallow wide side coverage of Humminbird SI. See the
moss growing on the boat ramp? See my boat trailer on the boat ramp?
Showing proof that Humminbird SI has full coverage to the water's surface.
And Full Coverage under the transducer. First image is splitting the
willow trees on both sides... this was taken when the lake rose and
flooded the parking lot and you can see the willows in the picture before
the flood. The coverage can overlap when you get deeper as can be seen in
the last images as the bridge is being shown fully on both sides of the
screen so you have 180 degrees of coverage with 455kHz Side Imaging.
Will Side Imaging work in Shallow Water? Look at coverage area.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:15 PM
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:16 PM
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/11 05:18 PM
GPS Receiver:Humminbird offers the GR-50 50 Channel GPS Receiver as Standard Equipment.
It can track up to 50 Satellites at one time which allows it to hold onto
satellites longer and pick-up new satellites sooner to get a better fix of
your location. It also increased the accuracy of the receiver to 2.5
Meters, when hooked direct to the unit it offers 4 Times Per Second
Refresh Rate of the GPS Location.
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Mapping Options:Humminbird offers ContourXD maps on most models giving you 3,000 Lakes
coverage with contour lines or UniMap base outline of USA Coverage (no
Contours). Optional coverage is can be sourced from LakeMaster or
Navionics.
UniMap:
Navionics Premium:
Navionics Platinum Contour Lines:
Navionics Platinum 3D:
Lake Master:
Very well done!!!
Humminbird 2011 New Features:Here's some new example of the new feature that were released for 2011 with FREE Software Upgrade...
Contour Mode - Off
Contour Mode - On (You can understand this boat ramp better and where the sunken boat is located from the end of it on the right side)
Range Lines -OFF
Range Lines - On (Using Coverage Area you can adjust Range Lines to help judge distance to points of interest on the screen)
Side Imaging Navigation Mode changes the Boat Icon at the top to show how to navigate to get to GPS Navigation path you have selected to waypoint without having to watch GPS screen. Notice Boat Icon turns orange in this feature.
Here you need to make a hard left...
New Down Imaging Zoom feature lets you zoom in on details...
HUMMINBIRD VIDEO CLIPSGeneral SourcesHumminbird on YouTube -
http://www.youtube.com/user/HumminbirdTVDoug Vahrenberg's website -
http://www.dougvahrenberg.com/Videos.htmlYou Tube (Account: Imonbass) -
http://www.youtube.com/user/imonbassSpecific Topic VideosHow to Change Page Views and Set Favorite Presetshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je2KYuzn2JwHumminbird Display Cleaning Tips:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fe89SH8xmcSoftware Updating Step-by-Step - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TZtvcpzQRMSoftware Updating with Humminbird PC by Robert Gecy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb37UQW2EmkHow to Update your unit by GDay - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeRAXyq3KQFish Arches in 2D Sonar Explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94IRdadVmnsSonar Recording added with SI and DI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26UqTKDZr0How to make a Sonar Recording: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6syxV4juFkHumminbird Waterproof and Floats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FF2__9saXcKevin VanDam Instructional Videos:Tip #1 Subtle Structure Changes -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?...=nullTip #2 New Water -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4983207Tip #3 Identifying Structure/Cover -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5001125Tip #4 Fishing Manmade Structure -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5079441Tip #5 Following Depth contours -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5125994Tip #6 Finding Structure Around Marinas -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5146836Tip #7 Finding Suspended Fish -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5186111Tip #8 Fishing Docks -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5247582Tip #9 Fishing Shoreline and Laydowns -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5277013Tip #10 Fishing Weedbeds -
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5396013Miscellaneous VideosJason Halfen goes in-depth about Humminbird Product....Hour Long Video but lots of good information:
http://www.jasonhalfenoutdoors....htmlDave Wolak on Using Electronics -
http://vimeo.com/11840189Humminbird Advanced Sonar SeminarPart 1: Coverage Areas
http://youtu.be/sq74UJaNMSsPart 2: Switchfire 2D Settings
http://youtu.be/RhVfy4QBMFMPart 3: Down Imaging Settings
http://youtu.be/mF6d8AjJETw Part 4: Side Imaging Settings
http://youtu.be/z-OKoglPkngPart 5: Side Imaging Features
http://youtu.be/wG76FvY8pWAPart 6: How to Find the Fish
http://youtu.be/ck087QvGIBsPart 7: Trolling Motor Side Imaging
http://youtu.be/9HQ-Eo01gb0Part 8: GPS Basics
http://youtu.be/nP6WJ0h2LeQPart 9: GPS Advanced
http://youtu.be/4btE-Vm4fmw
Humminbird Contact and FAQ Information: Customer Service Phone #: 1 800 633 1468
Hours of Operation: - Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday 8 a.m. central time - 4:30 p.m. central time
Wednesday - 8:30 a.m. central time - 4:30 p.m. central time
E-mail: cservice@johnsonoutdoors.com
Website:
http://www.humminbird.com We would like to request that when you call or email customer service with questions specific to your unit that you are able to provide us with the below information in order to better assist you:
1) Unit Name
2) Unit Serial Number
3) Software Version (This video shows you how to find your software version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S95bcXDSVb4)
4) Date of Purchase
You can also find answers to many commonly asked questions on our website.
Common FAQ:
http://www.humminbird.com/FAQ.aspx You can find copies of manuals:
http://www.humminbird.com/supp....aspx Register a new product:
http://www.humminbird.com/Supp....aspx What the current software version is, and when it was released:
http://www.humminbird.com/FAQ.aspx?ContentId=2904 If you are having issues with your unit, to rule out any settings one of the first things we will also ask you to do is to Restore your Default settings on the unit.
This is very easy to do. Please see the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhChWVs5wl4---
Humminbird Quick Start Guidehttp://store.humminbird.com/me...e.pdf---
Humminbird Manufacturing is located in Eufuala, Alabama and Not only home to Manufacturing but Customer Service, Marketing Services and some of the engineering and product test facilities. Humminbird is owned by Johnson Outdoors
http://www.johnsonoutdoors.com/
They even manufacture/build their own control boards
And From the Outside looking at 678 Humminbird Lane in Eufaula, Alabama:
And here's the hard working folks that make it all happen:
Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird - 05/31/11 03:20 AM
Why the Red/Green Color Pallet for SI???
The Strong return show up in red and make it quick and easy to spot hard bottom in soft bottom areas like a rock in the middle of the great lakes or mussle shell beds here are some examples of shell bed locator with Red/Green Color Pallet.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird - 06/01/11 02:26 AM
Oh My Gosh. Everything in one place. I know what I will be doing for the next few weeks....reviewing all of this valuable information so that when my 1198 gets here, I will have jump started my learning curve thanks to this thread. Thank you one and all.
Posted By: GarySHO
Re: Humminbird - 06/02/11 02:30 AM
i need some info on trolling motor mounting.
I'm debating getting a 570di. I have a 24foot pontoon boat and having a finder on the back does me absolutely no good when I'm actually trying to find fish and is even worse when Im' in a cove or shallows due to the fact that everything I see is officially ancient history being 24feet behind the front of the boat.
Do you need a special transducer for trolling motor mounting or will the one that comes with your depth finder work?
Do you really just strap it to the motor?
how does it deal with the motor rotating?
is there a smarter way to mount a transducer to the front of a pontoon boat that could maybe enable me to leave the thing in the water and functional at full speed?
www.transducershieldandsaver.com builds a mount for the DI Transducer.
Neat Historical Facts about Humminbird:
Digital Sonar - An ExplanationSonar by its very nature uses an "analog" sound wave that is transmitted into the water by the fishfinder transmitter. These sound waves travel into the water on a carrier frequency such as 200kHz. These sound waves echo off the bottom, fish, and structure creating many varying sonar echoes that return back to the receiver on the analog frequency. This analog signal is then converted to digital within the fishfinder by virtually all marine electronics companies - the differences lie in what point within the sonar system the conversion takes place. Those promoting "digital" sonar convert these analog signals to digital within a sonar receiver itself. Humminbird converts analog signals using the analog to digital capability of the on-board microprocessor. Therefore, Humminbird offers digital technology, however the conversion from analog to digital just occurs differently that what is being promoted by others. It is interesting to note that Humminbird has been converting analog to digital in this manner since
1989. Infinite Variable BandwidthsFurther benefits of units marketed as "digital" sonar include technology such as adaptive transmitters, and "virtually" infinite variable bandwidths. It is important for the consumer to know that these benefits are not limited to the methodology of the so called "digital" sonar products. If fact these and other techniques are central to Humminbird's Professional Grade Sonar. Humminbird transmitter design offers adaptive technology that modulates power and pulse width based on conditions.
Additionally, our receiver offers variable bandwidth and wide 90db dynamic range to hear both high and low intensity signals simultaneously. Another key benefit touted by marketers of "digital" sonar is the use of filtering algorithms in their design to remove unwanted noise and clutter. The use of filtering techniques produces results counter to the desires of all anglers, since these "intelligent" algorithms actually remove information that is important to the angler - such as detail in structure and fish. This is clearly evident when comparing on-water sonar images from the "digital" products to the same structure when viewed by a Humminbird product.
Humminbird has been Digital...long before Digital was a cool buzz word...And Broad Range of Listening to Sonar Returns.
Screen and Display Comparison Data:
Square Inches of Sonar Data Display Area less Readouts:
798c = 12.234 Square Inches
898c = 16.031 Square Inches
998c = 21.312 Square Inches
1198c = 48.156 Square Inches
Display Size is usable area of the screen less readouts. Screen is the Display Size.
TMike's Physical Image Comparison Image:
i stumbled across this forum and i am blown away at the plethora of information provided in just this single log. i am in need of some information and advice that i cant seem to get a straight answer for. what is the difference between the new HD resolution and last years non-hd. (yes i know and understand it on tv's but on a 5" screen???) i am contemplating a 597 ci HD DI Combo vs. last years 798c SI Combo. ANY INSIGHT OR COMPARABLE SCREEN SHOTS APPRECIATED. THANKS
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/09/11 03:46 AM
Doug will jump on here and confirm but what I have read is it's just in the name. Now the difference in the 597 and the 798 is side imaging which if I was debating between the two and the "HD" did actually make a difference in screen quality, it still wouldnt be enough to overtake the possibility of have SI.
HD Designation is to tell the public the 5" Screen is the Industries Highest Pixel COunt Display of 640 Horizintal and 640 Vertical Pixels. This is new on many of the 500 Series Models and has been the same on the 700 Series for several years. On the 700 Series HD unit it also signifies that the unit is Ethernet Capable Unit and 2011 Model.
i knew about the Ethernet but since i wont be multiplexing 2 units i'm not worried about it. my post was a bit off, 2 weeks ago i bought a new 597 at BPS for $650 because i couldnt drop 1k for the sidescan but thats what i really really wanted. over the past few days i have been talking to the techs at Humminbird, trying to tweak the 597 in and 2 days ago they tipped me off to looking around for last years 798 at a discounted price. so now i had that idea stuck in my head and because of that my 597 was not what i was happy with anymore. yesterday i found the 798 on humminbird's site for only $100 more than i paid for the 597. now i am trying to recover as much as i can for my 597. (anyone interested???)
Posted By: hansond
Re: Humminbird - 06/11/11 02:35 AM
I ORDERED 798 SI YESTER DAY AT LUNCH FROM HUMMINGBIRD WEB SITE $ 771 WITH SHIPPING, BY FAR THE CHEAPEST SI IVE SEEN. AS I READ THRU THE THREAD CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG IT WILL DO DOWN IMAGING ALSO
Yes it will do down imaging.
Posted By: Western
Re: Humminbird - 06/11/11 08:25 AM
Only price I found on HB site for the 798 ci HD Si was $1049?? I didn't see one for $771? wish I would have. Just got mine from Digital oasis for $849, or are there 2 models?
Question: I noticed on my boat when installing the 798 transducer, my transom has a slight bow or angle from center to each outside corner. This slightly offsets my transducer from parallel with the back of the boat, I went ahead and mounted it at the angle rather than try some kind of shim, because I was worried about obstruction the SI.
Any problems with it this way? it is maybe 1-2 degrees off I would guess, but I believe the SI transmission will be unobstructed.
They are the 2010 798c (NON HD or NON Ethernet Models)these units where replaced by the 2011 Model 798ci HD.
Closeout Section at Humminbird:
http://store.humminbird.com/category/78409/Closeouts
Posted By: hansond
Re: Humminbird - 06/11/11 04:44 PM
thanks thats cool i didnt know it would do di
yes it was on close out and not hd
$749 771 with shipping
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/12/11 12:32 AM
There are three 798 models.
The 798ci HD SI is the 2011 model year with an Ethernet connection.
The 798ci SI is the 2009-2010 model with internal GPS antenna.
The 798c SI is the 2009-2010 model with an external GPS antenna.
Posted By: Western
Re: Humminbird - 06/12/11 11:16 AM
Ok, thanks. That makes more sense. Got the model I wanted then.
Tried her out some yesterday, man what a difference in the bright sun! Only thing that could be better is the larger screen, but I quickly figured out how to switch to different screens to see DI,SI ect tra by itself full screen. Like the DI/sonar screen the best so far.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/12/11 01:55 PM
The ratchets on the mount and transducer are set up to give you the proper tranducer angle for your transom angle. The instructions state how to use them.
I like the 2D/DI dual view of the 798 also. IMHO it is better than those views beside each other with the larger screen models.
Standing timber:
i got a interesting update. i was able to sell my 597 for a slight loss and ordered my 798 from the website. today it arrived and installed it just as i did my 597 (per instructions). i had 2 issues going on that i didnt have with my 597. (1st) when the unit is clicked into the mount if i put any pressure on the right side of the case on the back (as if i wanted to turn it to the left) it looses power. i can turn to the right no problem. checked cables 10 times for any cable pinch or strain.... none found. (2nd) the transducer cable pulls up thru the mount when unit is released and has to be pressed back in. --called and spoke to CS and explained everything, they are sending a new mount but i know that wont fix the power issue. just to confirm this, a friend stopped by with a older b/w humminbird and i plugged it right in... turned left, turned right, tilt up/down..... now problem. ugh!!!! i took a video to try to save time by having the techs have a true understanding of the problem. i would love to see them ship out a new unit and i can send mine back when the new one arrives so i am not without a unit.
this is the link to the video. i didn't make or post this to bash humminbird, they have been very helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCXXrmS_he8
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/16/11 12:19 AM
crazywelder72, your issue has a simple resolution and a new unit will not resolve it.
Remove the 798 from the mount and take the cable collector apart.
Bend the tab on the metal plate (that you should have installed and didn't or the metal tab is bent so it won't hold the plug in the collector) up slighty on the power cord slot so it will hold the power cord plug more firmly. Reassemble the cable collector.
Next bend the two power cord pins VERY SLIGHTLY (so little you cannot tell you did it). Snap the display back on the mount--problem solved.
The fit of the cord plugs in the unit receptacles is intentionally made to be a sloppy fit so the display can be removed easily.
If your unit came with the PC-11 power cord (with the choke) and you have that below the boat hull under the mount, the choke-to-plug distance is so short that all the movement you were doing will pull on the plug end if the hole you made is not big enough to allow the choke to be in the hole some.
If that is one of the issues, get a PC-10 power cord ( not recommended for a bow mount setup) and change the cord ( it doesn't have the choke.
That sloppy fit of the power cord plug is a common issue with all Humminbird models and the "adjustment" of the plug pins is the remedy.
thanks for the input and i understand everything you stated.
slightly bending the pins would work if it were the female receptacles were slightly "loose" and its hard to check this. if that were the issue any rotation or movement would cause this failure not just "left rotational pressure on the back of the unit".
the metal retainer clip is installed, and even if i tweak the metal clip on the power terminal that wouldn't prevent the transducer cable from popping up thru the mount and it shouldn't.
the filter/choke on the cbl isn't snagging on anything, towards the end of the video you can see i barley touch the unit and it dies. in order for the choke to play a factor the base and or cable would have to be pulled, not rotated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/16/11 12:18 PM
When I had that same issue with just pushing the unit buttons, tilting the display or rotating the base, I was skeptable also. It still fixed the problem and has for many. The female part of the system IS a loose fit as I explained before and is intentional as explained to me by a Humminbird tech. I still think a better way should be employed for the plug pins to unit fit and told him so as well as adding it to the list of suggested improvements for all the units.
Send me your address and I'll send you the plastic part that the plugs go into-I have some extras. The plug certainly shouldn't come out thru that part. The bending the tab deal is to make a tight fit of the plugs in the plastic part. purdum43@aol.com
Posted By: hansond
Re: Humminbird - 06/16/11 09:50 PM
I SAW THAT THE HB HD 798CI SI GIVES A MORE DETAILED GPS MAP IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ONLY COMES ON THE HD OR IS THERE A UPDATE FOR THE HB 798C SI
thanks wayne i will try it on Friday. i will email you also.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/17/11 02:35 AM
Are your referring to the base map or some plug and play added map software?
Posted By: hansond
Re: Humminbird - 06/17/11 02:47 AM
i was talking about the base map, but my 798 just got delivered today and it had the navigation bundle on it. i just orderd the regular combo, i had to call to see why it was taking so long to ship, maybe they just felt sorry for me
happy early fathers day to me
Is this a 798ci HD (2011 Model) Make sure it is on a 2011 700 Series Mounting Base because they changed the base in 2011 for Ethernet functions.
just for the record ***WAYNE WAS RIGHT ABOUT SLIGHTLY BENDING THE PINS.*** THANK YOU
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/17/11 08:13 PM
The 2011 798ci HD SI comes with the Contour XD base mapping. That is similar to the former NVB that was an additional $200 and available on earlier models. The NVB was the 2006 issue of Navionics Hotmaps Premium for all regions plus the Navionics Gold.
The older base map is the Uni-map and basically featureless.
Posted By: fish n fool
Re: Humminbird - 06/18/11 10:05 PM
I know this site is for equiptment info inwhich you all have done an excellent job. But I have a trouble shooting issue. If this is not the correct place to ask for help I understand and will post in general equipment. I have a 1198si mounted on a 22' Pathfinder with a pocket tunnel hull. The problem is a low speed (3-5 mph ) and sometimes when sitting completely still the depth reading will go crazy. Readings are speratic up to 500+ feet. Usuall it will clear up if I run at a faster speed for a little bit, but may return when I slow down. Any suggestions as to what may be causing the problem would be greatly appreciated?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/18/11 10:15 PM
Post a picture or two of your transducer installation and transom at the hull bottom level.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/19/11 03:34 AM
I know this site is for equiptment info inwhich you all have done an excellent job. But I have a trouble shooting issue. If this is not the correct place to ask for help I understand and will post in general equipment.
This thread is for all things Humminbird. It is so all information is in one place and hopefully the next person that is experiancing the same issues or has the same question can find his answer here rather than scrolling through a hundred pages.
How are your transducers mounted? Does it do it at certain depths? What are your sonar settings? Many different variables that can effect performance. Are you running the latest software? One thing you can do is restore defaults or cross test on another transducer that is working correctly?
quick question jumping back to the 798. i used it yesterday for the first time and when toggling thru the views i didn't see a DI view. i thought with the 798 i could see both DI and SI. just curious....
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/20/11 02:04 PM
is it a brand new 798 or a older model? the older models didnt have DI on it from the factory. register your unit on the humminbird website and download the updates, then you will have DI
Posted By: MrG
Re: Humminbird - 06/20/11 02:34 PM
Glad we're off of that front page. All the pics take it forever to load.
holy moly... i just did the update and not only does it now show DI but i have a good 1/2 dozen more views. (now i wish i had a few more short cut buttons)
what is the depth when you should change the setting from salt shallow to salt deep?
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/21/11 04:25 AM
one thing I always thought would be cool was if humminbird threw three buttons on the I-pilot remote and allowed you to change quick views from your i-pilot remote
i haven't had this too long but i think the 3 preset buttons would be improved if each button was capable of 2 settings. that would give fast selection to 6 views using 3 buttons. (button one-push once for view A, push again for view B)
someone could just jump to view 5 just by hitting button 3 once.
just a thought
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/21/11 04:32 PM
Doug has a video where he explains how the 3 buttons can be used to make 9 presets. you do this by programing the three buttons then use the view and exit button to go forward one page and the exit button to go back one page. when you use these one button pushes the quick view actually makes it very easy to get to 9 screens. The video I posted below, after I watched it isnt actually the one I was looking for, but im sure doug will jump on here and explain it better.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 06/21/11 04:43 PM
here ya go, this should help get 9 quick views with only a couple buttons pushed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Je2KYuzn2Jw
Posted By: bassndad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/21/11 07:50 PM
OK, so looking at a Bird 898si combo, due to what seems to be everyones more favarable reviews of that unit over Lowrance HDS8. But I have 2 Lowrances, 1 at bow and 1 at console I would keep as not enough $ to make a complete transition. How is the best way to use this mixed combo?
i haven't had this too long but i think the 3 preset buttons would be improved if each button was capable of 2 settings. that would give fast selection to 6 views using 3 buttons. (button one-push once for view A, push again for view B)
someone could just jump to view 5 just by hitting button 3 once.
just a thought
You can get 9 Presets in just 2 button clicks with the Favorites and VIEW or Exit Button. Here is how one user set his up:
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Here's what I've done (regarding the number of presets);
Button 1 = Split Screen DI / SI
From that view;
> Press Exit = Full Screen DI
> Press View = Split Screen 2D / DI
Button 2 = Full Screen SI
From that view;
> Press Exit = 3 Way Split DI over 2D / SI
> Press View = Full Screen 2D
Button 3 = Full Screen Navigation Map
From that view;
> Press Exit = Bird's Eye Navigation (this view is great for river buoy navigation)
This helps me get more screen/view shortcuts with extra "quick-cuts" by the press of one extra button.
You may have to hide or un-hide certain screens to get these exact combinations but I've found it to be quite helpful. Especially with the addition of DI. I just wanted quick access to more screens than there were buttons.
But that's 9 presets with 2 key strokes :glasses:
One way alot of people are doing is buy an extra transducer and set up second location then more the head unit back and forth that way they can utilize one head unit till they can upgrade both.
Others are using the SI at the console and then upgrade bow unit later as the funds become available.
Any questions let me know.
I'm here to help!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/21/11 09:26 PM
bassndad, if you are not familiar with the imaging technology, the console with transom transducer is the best way to learn. After you get the hang of it, you will want that technology at the bow whether you switch mount locations or get another unit.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/11 03:42 AM
OK, so looking at a Bird 898si combo, due to what seems to be everyones more favarable reviews of that unit over Lowrance HDS8. But I have 2 Lowrances, 1 at bow and 1 at console I would keep as not enough $ to make a complete transition. How is the best way to use this mixed combo?
What two lowrance units are they? Are they HDS or traditional sonar? if they are traditional 2D sonar then I would set the 898 at the console and use it there to find the piles, then use your lowrance to fish them. If you can spend an extra 200-300 then buy a second station and put that up at the bow and this will allow you to find the spots with your unit at the console then you can move it up front and use it to fish with and stay on where you need to be.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/11 11:05 AM
j, FYI the Lowrance HDS units are traditional 2D sonar with dual beam 83/200 kHz. They only become something else if the LSS-1 accessory is added for Structure Scan. Not everyone with HDS units has purchased the LSS-1 accessory.
Posted By: bassndad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/11 02:38 PM
At the bow I have a 520c at the console its a 27. Just running down the lake I understand that you do not use the si on the bird, just 2d down. correct?
Posted By: crazywelder72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/11 02:51 PM
where my unit does not have the internal gps antenna, if i install another mount up front and the trolling mtr transducer, how do i connect into the existing gps antenna? or is it not worth the hassle to connect it?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/11 03:03 PM
You can use the SYSLINK cable to use the single GPS antenna at two locations.
The only issue you will have is the GPS wayponts that are based on sonar returns will be off by the distance between the transducer and antenna. If exact accuracy is not an issue, that is the least expensive way to go rather than purchasing another GPS antenna.
I use that cable with the GPS antenna mounted at the bow. Just about all my waypoints are saved when at the bow while fishing.
additional note: with Side Imaging, it is not as critical as with regular sonar when trying to return to a waypoint of a feature even if it is 20'+ off.
Posted By: crazywelder72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/11 06:47 PM
i'm not sure what the cost of the trolling mtr transducer is or the proper one but i thought of another question.
is there a cable like the syslink cbl that would allow me to use my existing transom transducer all the way up at the bow instead of the trolling mtr transducer?
btw thanks again for everything,
You could use a Graph Switch between units and it would allow you to use one transdcuer between two units.
Posted By: crazywelder72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/11 02:35 PM
whats a graph switch? it would be between 2 locations with one unit.
Posted By: crazywelder72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/26/11 04:20 AM
wo... thats a pricey switch. so to do a second mount on my bow but use the existing transducer and gps antenna i am looking at aprox $145 (80 for switch, 30 for mount, 35 for syslink cbl) this sh-t ads up quickly
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/26/11 04:34 AM
LOL...yes it does....may be cheaper just to buy another unit and ethernet them together...HAHA
I bought an 898 the other day and while it was a great deal i also bought a raptorcap, ram mount, screen protector, weather sense, and tansducer sheild and saver.....sll the accessories add up very fast
Posted By: crazywelder72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/26/11 01:29 PM
i think i'll wait till i catch my first fish before i go spending the mortgage money on any more stuff.
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/26/11 03:27 PM
Yeah, then you can buy it,lol.
What do People Look Like?
Here is Humminbird Marketing Manager getting Side Imaging Picture Taken:
You can see the Scuba Flippers and even air bubbles coming out of his mouth.
Adjusting Scroll Speed Opens up the Details
Matching the Chart/Scroll Speed to the Boat Speed will keep the image returns in perspective as you would see under the water but one of the interesting tools is to adjust the Chart Speed to Open up the Details in the image like finding fish in the tree branches an increased scroll speed can open up the tree and make it easier to find fish amongst the network of tree branches. Look at these images below and watch how changing the scroll speed can be beneficial in helping find fish within the trees.
Chart Speed 3 - Matched to Boat Speed
Chart Speed 4 - Trees open up a little
Chart Speed 5 - Trees Open Even Wider and Fish are Becoming Easier to See
Chart Speed 6 - Tree Branches are open even wider and make it easier to separate the fish from the branches
This is a function and feature that Humminbird offers the user the ability to control chart/scroll speed to allow the user to gather the data they need to be successful. Understanding how it works will help you find and locate more fish. Changing Chart/Scroll Speed Faster will distort the images "real world perspective" but if you are looking for fish within structure it is a very useful tool to help you get the most out of your investment.
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/30/11 09:41 AM
What setting was sharpness on?
In the above image I was not using any SI enhance Sharpness. But that is another tool that can help and used in conjunction with scroll speed tohelp locate fish.
Posted By: Mxbubs
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/03/11 06:08 AM
Is is possible on down imaging or conventional 2d sonar to actually see my bait relative to fish location?
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/03/11 07:28 PM
Is is possible on down imaging or conventional 2d sonar to actually see my bait relative to fish location?
If you are jigging for example a spoon or jig directly below you then yes you should be able to watch your bait on the graph in relation to the fish. I'm not sure if di will show, I don't own one yet but I have caught many fish by trolling around, graphing fish and then dropping a bait to them. This is the best way to use a drop shot rig, graph them and catch them.
Switchfire 2D it works great vertical fishing seeing your bait. I recommend Switchfire MAX Mode and selecting 200/83 kHz combines sonar setting to see your bait easier.
Down Imaging has such a narrow beam width (front to rear) that it is very difficult to keep your bait in the beam...more luck than skill. That is why 2D Soanr is so important because it is the best choice for vertical fishing and why Humminbird offers 2D sonar with it's DI units.
Can I transsom mount my transducer for a 788ci HD DI Combo on a 96 Ranger 461 VS? Because of the variable setback on the VS models I don't see an area that is perpendicular to the water surface. Plus you have two steps to deal with. Really wanted to be able to take advantage of temperature.
You will need to mount where the hull meets the transom if you want ALL Speed Readings for Sonar. Anything above the bottom of the transom will not read on plane.
Thank you Doug. I found a picture on the Hummingbird website as to where they are mounting on the Rangers with variable setbacks. I will wait until it cools off and get busy.
i just got back in from being out in boston harbor and the charles river and recorded a lot of data for fun. the images while out on the water were sweet, got a real awesome shot of a bait ball and its shadow and a lot of structures. when i grab some screen shots i will post them.
Posted By: Slowfly
Re: Humminbird - 07/08/11 01:33 PM
I have a Huminbird 998SI I want to add a transducer in the hull so with the y cable so I can have depth reading while on plane. My question is the puck I have has temp built in and so does the SI transducer. I want the temp reading from the SI not the puck in the hull, how is this acomplished?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/08/11 02:19 PM
With the AS SIDB Y cable, the temp circuit comes from the SI transducer. There is no electrical path on the 2D transducer side of the cable for temp.
Posted By: Slowfly
Re: Humminbird - 07/08/11 06:08 PM
Thats what I needed to know, thanks Wayne..
I transom mount my transducer for a 788ci HD DI Combo on a 96 Ranger 461 VS. I mounted the transducer in the area above the drain plug and intakes for the live wells per Hummingbird website. Good returns at low speed but it looses bottom when on plane. What are my choices for all speed returns?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/09/11 10:04 PM
In case none of you know, the DI transducers can be used as a shoot-thru. You won't get water temp with the built-in temp sensor, but you can add the accessory TG-W temp sensor for that.
The XIH 9 DI T comes with the epoxy instead of the transom mount
There is a new shoot-thru version I heard about that has the remote temp sensor. Haven't seen it on the HB web site yet.
Posted By: Senko726
Re: Humminbird - 07/10/11 09:12 PM
Has anyone dealt with the Hummingbird Factory Outlet recently? I am wanting to order the 998c SI combo but am a little nervous.
Took me 4 months to save up the money for this unit.
thanks
Posted By: champ 198
Re: Humminbird - 07/10/11 09:39 PM
No haven't used them, but i did by 2 from Universalmania they were on sale.Fast shipping very smooth transaction.
Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird - 07/10/11 10:44 PM
Has anyone dealt with the Hummingbird Factory Outlet recently? I am wanting to order the 998c SI combo but am a little nervous.
Took me 4 months to save up the money for this unit.
thanks
Get a hold of David at Shut up and fish on this forum.
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5767861/1/FOR_SALE_Humminbird_798_898_99Good guy you can trust!
i bought from them my 798c a few weeks back. no problems... actually they were far beyond helpful to me.
Has anyone dealt with the Hummingbird Factory Outlet recently? I am wanting to order the 998c SI combo but am a little nervous.
Took me 4 months to save up the money for this unit.
thanks
Humminbird Factory Outlet is the name of an online store...It has no association to Humminbird, except they sell Humminbird products.
Posted By: bucky94
Re: Humminbird - 07/11/11 09:31 PM
I bought a 798 ci SI last year and need to get a unit for the front of the boat. I'd like to link the units so they can share waypoints. A couple questions:
1. Will a 587 work? If not, what are my somewhat economic options that will allow me to still have a reasonably large screen?
2. What else am I going to need to buy, and how hard will it be to set up?
Thanks.
Only the 700,800,900 and 1100 Series have networking capabilities. With the 798ci InterLink will be your choice for networking.
The most economical models will be the 700 series Units and all you will need is the InterLink Accessory.
Posted By: bucky94
Re: Humminbird - 07/13/11 04:39 PM
Thanks Doug. Then a 787c2 would work, correct?
Your videos are great by the way. Transforming the way my son and I fish.
You can InterLink the 798c with 787c2
NEW For 2012 From Humminbird:
* Radar
* Ethernet Networking via Hub of Multiple Units (more than 2 units) and future Ethernet Accessories
* NEMA 2000 Connection to Ethernet Network
* Expanded Down Imaging Units with 2D in the 300,800, 900, 1100 Series
More Information to come as released and photos...
HumminbirdTV YouTube Clip:
http://youtu.be/PhHfU-QpdEMNew 300 Series Down Imaging
1158c DI - 2011 ICAST Best of Show Winner - Electronics
HUMMINBIRD WAYPOINT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE
Humminbird is starting to release the software for Waypoint Management. The 998c Software V5.70 has been released and more models are coming as they release the software. Keep a watch on your accounts for the updates.
Waypoint Management is under the Navigation Tab then Scroll Down to Waypoints, Tracks and Routes and open it...
This is Sample Image:
Posted By: No Bass!!!!
Re: Humminbird - 07/17/11 07:51 PM
It is showing up for my 958c but it is saying not found when I try to download it. I noticed in the top left corner it says 0 bytes. What do I need to do.
Try again this week probably didn't get it loaded before end of week.
Posted By: No Bass!!!!
Re: Humminbird - 07/18/11 03:09 AM
Thanks
Just got some news from Hummibird:
Got the official word on this: the waypoint management software was not included in the 5.700 software release. Someone must have gotten over-anxious and jumped the gun on this. Sorry folks but we will have to wait a while longer for the waypoint management software… If you are having problems tracking the bottom in shallow water when the trolling motor is running your should download and install the 5.700 software though.
Looks like we will have to wait just a little bit longer...I'm wanting to run this new feature but I would rather wait so it comes out right...been a huge project to get the right tool the first time. Sorry for the mis-information I recieved.
Here's a couple neat images I captured showing the Humminbird exceeding the specifications of 150' Max Depth...2D Sonar was in 200kHz only to show the most detail versus coverage area so that is why the bridge piling not showing.
Table Rock Bridge...Proves you get full coverage under the boat...only way you get the bridge on both sides is if the beams overlap in this case...So DI you get under boat coverage
Cool Image of the New 13 Highway Brdige Piling
Here's a neat image of Old Rock Quarry with 455kHz and 800 kHz scanned they were scanned in opposite directions ( so I flipped image) but good comparison of detail differences.
455 kHz
800 kHz
Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird - 07/19/11 12:57 AM
Awesome pics Doug!
Posted By: bucky94
Re: Humminbird - 07/19/11 08:38 PM
If I am linking two units via interlink, do they both need gps receivers or can one just be gps capable and run from the receiver on the other?
More to the point, if I get a 778 for the front of the boat, will I also need to get a receiver for it?
You can share one receiver but all waypoints and the location on the unit will be referenced from the GPS Receiver location. You will need to understand the offset addition from the bow to the GPS receiver to get back on the structure.
But Yes you can!
Posted By: xanadu
Re: Humminbird - 07/20/11 06:59 PM
I have a question on a 597ci di. I just installed one and when I registered it with Humminbird it said I could update to 3.2.2. I downloaded it and it added that management software on my home computer. Is 3.2.2. the program on my computer, or is it updates that I need to load into my 597 unit on the boat. Also which beam is better (455/800) for the down image pictures? Mine just look like 2d blue and white flat drawings and not anything like the 3d pictures that they show on the images above. (when going slow or drifting) Thanks.
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird - 07/20/11 08:30 PM
The 800 will give crisper pics, the 455 will give more distance with less resolution (not as crisp). The images above were taken my a man who has a really great unit and the man knows how to get every pixel out of that sucker. In other words Doug is the freaking si/di king!
You have to look at the Down Imaging images they are different view than the Side Imaging. I would start a post with some screen captures of your images you are getting and I can take a look. The number one thing about creating great images is chart speed. Matching it to boat speed or a little slower will increase the details as they naturally look.
3.2.2 sounds liek the HumminbirdPC Download which is for waypoint managing for your home computer.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 07/25/11 01:07 PM
Is there a way to select which Antenna you want to use? meaning if I had a 898 and a 788CI both on the console. can I use the antenna from the 898 for both units even though the 788 is an internal system?
Yes when networked you can use select which GPS Receiver. You can user each with it's own receiver or you can chose the other units receiver.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 07/25/11 03:54 PM
awesome thanks Doug
Here is some images showing how well Humminbird Switchfire 2D Sonar with the 200/83kHz Dual Beam Plus makes following your Drop Shot and finding the fish...Today the fish were bottom hugging but would come up to check out the Drop Shot. My rig consisted of a swivel with a 4" Finesse Worm about 12" below and a 1/8 oz weight a foot lower. You can see the Humminbird tracks the drop shot and locates the fish.
Dropin' on a Bass...
Bass gets all over the bait. You can tell by strength of return he's dead in the middle of the cone angle with Original Color Pallete by the bright red and all over the worm.
Here's where one strikes but a swing and a miss and tghen the fish goes back down.
Bass all over the screen. See how the sneak out of the bottom to come up and check out my bait.
I think I can see this one laughing at my Finesse Worm...Came up checked it out and went back down.
Humminbird Switchfire Max Mode makes it easy to vertical fish with the smallest of lure even in the deepest of depth.
Here's some help understanding what's going on in the images above.
Here is inaction photo drop shotin'
Here's the Baits and you can see weight and swivel tied up and ready to go Drop Shotin'
Here is the Drop Shot Rig I used showing the Swivel, Bait and Weight and how the graph can show each on the screen.
Fish directly below/in the center of the cone of the transducer will show up as the strongest return. The Far Right Side of Images I have the Strength of Return Scale turned on, the top is the strongest return (red) to the weakest returns at the bottom (blue). IF you look at this image below. The left side is the oldest data and the right side the most current. There is only one main fish easier to interpret
If you look through the transparent numbers under time you can see where I picked this fish up with the sonar it was on the outer edges of the sonar as it was blue/green color representation. The fish starts moving closer as I drop my drop shot rig see the line changes to a yellow color. You can see I held my bait steady at around 15' until the fish moved into the center of the cone and you can see the drop descend to the fish. He come up takes and look and swims away. I tried to raise the rig to entice but the fish is gone.
This is one of the reasons I use Original Color Pallete because you can easily see the strength and location of the fish in the cone angle. Because the Red color really jumps out when the fish is dead in the center of the cone angle.
This is a tough color pallete for me because it's harder for me to see the strongest returns from the fish in the center of the cone. Everything blends together Yellow, Orange and Red blend together.
Other reason when the fish are sucked onto the bottom you can see the thin yellow/blue line that is a fish sitting against the rocks on the bottom. See how one rises up to come check out the bait and how he moves directly under the transducer.
Here's what I love to fish...Suspended Fish over deep water you don't have to hunt the bottom for the fish...
If you really want to get very accurate with vertical fishing you use Clear Mode which filters out side lobe readings and become a very precise sonar sonar system a little harder to keep the bait in the cone angle but when you see a fish and drop your bait and see it you are hitting the fish in the head or the tail because of the precision sonar system Humminbird Clear Mode Sonar is.
Here's a Vertical Fishing reward...big fat spotted bass
Using Side Imaging and Down Imaging makes it easy to find these bottom hugging fish then you get on top of them.
Posted By: Bullhead
Re: Humminbird - 07/30/11 09:09 PM
Need help we where to mount transducer. Here are couple of photos of the back of my boat. I have the 798ci hd si HB.
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Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/30/11 09:45 PM
As close to the livewell intake as you can get it and not be inline with a hull rib. Up against it if possible.
Are you replacing the current transducer? I would mount in that location. BUt recommend getting one of the poly-Mounting Boards so you can make adjustments without having to drill new holesall the time. IF mounting low you need to keep the distance away from the motor like the op manual says 15" so you do not disrupt water flow to the outboard cooling intakes.
Posted By: Bullhead
Re: Humminbird - 08/01/11 01:04 AM
Yes I will be replacing the current transducer. So it will work in the old location as well so long as the view is clear for the side image.
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird - 08/01/11 04:30 AM
Yes I will be replacing the current transducer. So it will work in the old location as well so long as the view is clear for the side image.
If your motor is trimmed down all the way it might not work with the si (or might have a shadow). The pros will let you know.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 04:24 PM
I finally made the swith to SI. I have a 997 getting delivered today and will start the install tonight. Below is a pic of my 79 Ranger. Should I install the SI transducer in the same spot as the previous one. Also what size SD Card are people using with the units? Thanks and great info here...
That is a good place to start but it will be suceptable to damage from underwater obstructions...the HDSI transducers are not cheap but that looks like the easiest install with your configuration.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 06:39 PM
Thanks
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 07:42 PM
Hey Gonzz, theres a spring loaded mount that'd be good for your application. It's is this section under transducer saver, you should be able to find it easily. Nevermind heres the link to it.
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...ver#Post6465470
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 07:55 PM
Thanks for the info. I got the unit installed just wating for new transducer to get here on Thursday and it's fishing time.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 08:05 PM
What size SD card are people using in their units? I need to pick one up this evening.
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 08:21 PM
I just use a 2 gb on my Lowrance and it will record for something like 24 hours. Sometimes the big cards (4 & over) cause more problems than they are worth, I say try the small first unless you get some more feedback, I look forward to seeing some pics. I wish more guys would post them, I love looking at them.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/11 08:27 PM
Cool. I will get a 2GB. I have a few areas I need to look at in SI to see what's really down there. LoL.
Mount it right over the trailer bunk. And if you do it correctly, you not only will better protect the transducer, but imaging and high speed sounding will function as designed...all in the spirit of avoiding screwhole damage.
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird - 08/03/11 12:12 AM
The factory transducer will pop up as it comes from the manufacturer.
What size SD card are people using in their units? I need to pick one up this evening.
Humminbird can use up to 32GB SDHC cards with the latest updates installed. I find the best performance from the San Disk Extreme 3 Cards.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/03/11 03:11 AM
Thanks. Picked up a 8GB this evening.
Posted By: Bullhead
Re: Humminbird - 08/04/11 01:58 AM
Doug,
Here is the best view for my mount. the old transducer will come off. I may have to lower is some but if me your feedback. I hope to start the install this weekend. If any of Pros want to give there feedback please do so. I want to get it right.
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Like I mentioned before I would mount one of the Poly Transducer Mounting boards so you can adjust without additional holes in the same location.
He has a mighty nice boat there.
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 08/05/11 02:10 AM
question on sharing images via the ethernet cable from one unit to the other. I know both units have to be capable for instance if I want to share side imaging screens from an 898 on the console to a unit on the bow it also has to be a side imaging capable unit. But what about if I have one of the DI units on the bow like a 788DI, can I share that image with a 898 on the console? they are both capable of using DI, but one uses a different type of transducer to receive it.
There are two types of Down Imaging. Down Imaging Created with the Side Imaging transducer is different technology than dedicated Down Imaging so that data cannot be shared by Ethernet. Both have to be dedicated DI units or Side Imaging Units.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/05/11 05:46 PM
Did you have the SI Enhance Sharpness Turned on? That's what the grainyness looks like. Sharpness is a great fish finding tool but does make the screen look grainey since it backshadows the strong returns. For Crisp images turn it off to find fish choose the level you need low, med, or high.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/05/11 06:46 PM
Yes I had it on. Will play with that later this afternoon when I go back to the lake. The unit is pretty cool. Thanks again
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/06/11 04:08 AM
Doug, I turned off SI Enhance Sharpness and the picture is great. Now need to play with it and learn. Thanks again.
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Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/06/11 04:23 PM
Thanks. It's a great product..
Posted By: bucky94
Re: Humminbird - 08/08/11 01:57 PM
I'm really struggling. I have a 798si and can never mark fish. On side imaging, I'll sometimes pick up timber, but it's pretty weak. I've messed with sensitivity, chart speed, SI enhance. Everything. Can't see anything meaningful. Same thing on the regular sonar. Went with a guide and saw arches everywhere on his Lowrance. Same places with mine, and nothing. Still caught fish so I know they are there. I still pick up the bottom just fine. And on the regular sonar I'll generally get timber too. I just can't pick up anything that looks like a fish. Awhile ago the transducer got knocked off the bracket when we drifted into a stump, but it seems fine. It works just the same as it always has after getting knocked off. I've had this unit for about 18 months. I've moved the transducer lower on the transom too.
Anyone have any more ideas? It's really hard to fish deep when I can't see fish.
Thanks in advance.
Reduce coverage are on the 798c to 50 to 75 Foot make it easier to see on the 5" screen. Are you using 2D sonar? Use 200/83 kHz and Switchfire Max Mode.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/08/11 09:39 PM
bucky, "It's really hard to fish deep when I can't see fish."
How "deep" is your deep?
I get more than enough information with a 798ci SI using the 83/200 kHz setting and the default sensitivity setting of 10. I use the Switchfire Clear setting also.
This is a thermocline and fish with those settings.
One of the most awesome features of Side Imaging is the ability to mark waypoints away from the boat and the exact position with the 4Way Cursor. When you see fish or structure you want to mark just use the 4 Way Cursor and move over the structure you want to mark and hit the mark button and you have created a waypoint exactly on top of the structure not the boat position. In this image I have moved the cursor over the rock pile and you can see the Rock Pile Was 87.4 Foot to the Right of the boat Path and is current 155 feet away if I head 197 Degree Bearing from my current boat position.
One thing I like to do when I have a large area like a rock pile I want to fish is add multiple waypoints so I can see the complete outline on the GPS View so I can line up and fish the structure. The Red Dots would be an example of how I mark a Rock Pile or piece of structure so I can see the shape on the GPS View to make it easier to line-up to fish.
Here's a sample of the GPS VIEW I did on a rock pile...
Posted By: Bullhead
Re: Humminbird - 08/08/11 10:45 PM
Doug,
I have my unit hooked now but have some stuff going with left that I'm unable to get cleared up. Here is a photo shot. the right side looks good.
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Posted By: Bullhead
Re: Humminbird - 08/09/11 12:09 AM
Doug do you think moving my transducer can a little more to the right will help with the motor interference. I think the motor is giving me the dark lines on my left side. The other post above my post has the same dark lines on the left side of the image.
Posted By: bucky94
Re: Humminbird - 08/09/11 02:39 AM
I'm trying to catch them in 22-30 feet. Thanks for the tips. I'll give them a shot!
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/09/11 04:50 PM
Going to buy a Navionics chip for the 997C. Which one should I get? Thanks
Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird - 08/09/11 11:08 PM
South Premium for around here.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/09/11 11:25 PM
Thanks. Gonna shop for one.
Doug,
I have my unit hooked now but have some stuff going with left that I'm unable to get cleared up. Here is a photo shot. the right side looks good.
Does you boat list to the right? Could be transducer shooting out of the water. I would equalize weight in the boat or tilt the transducer down a little on left side.
Also you have a little turbulence near the center but not ennough I would worry about in the water column.
Going to buy a Navionics chip for the 997C. Which one should I get? Thanks
Navionics Premium or Platinum work and LakeMaster too. LakeMaster has some neat exclusive features for Humminbird that let you customize your map. I would recommend looking at the lake list to decide which is best for you.
Posted By: johnathan
Re: Humminbird - 08/11/11 05:36 AM
Doug
I just purchased the 898C. I am having a problem getting the transducer back to clear the motor unit.Left works great but I think I am shooting the motor on the right.
Is their a product to move the unit back say 12 inches!Do you have any photos of transducers mounted on pontoon boats?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/11/11 11:28 AM
Your best application is the dual SI transducer setup with one on each pontoon. Connect the two transducers to the display with the AS SILR Y cable.
Posted By: johnathan
Re: Humminbird - 08/11/11 02:46 PM
Thanks
I guess the poor boy setup would be trim the motor up and use the trolling motor.Was hoping there was a bracket.
I don't know of a bracket but you might talk to Scap at
www.transducershieldandsaver.com he might be able to customize something.
Posted By: johnathan
Re: Humminbird - 08/12/11 04:21 AM
Please take a look at this picture from today. What is making the verticle lines just to the left of center image?
Thanks.
Something obstructing the sonar signal on the left side. Like Jackplate, ladder, boat protrusion. Do you have a picture of your installion on the back of your boat. Would like to see the complete transom area.
Thanks. It might be the ladder. Sonar unit is below the jackplate.
Posted By: clay65
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 05:49 AM
I am wanting a 596c hd di but not sure if it will work on trolling motor because of the transducer that comes with unit is listed for transom mount,can someone help me figure this out?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 11:46 AM
That transducer is no different than any other transom transducer for mount positions. There is a TM mount for it offered by Humminbird ( AD XTM 9 ) but the best choice is the Transducer Shield and Saver mount.
Posted By: clay65
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 11:59 AM
So your saying it will work on trolling motor?Who has the transducer shield and saver mount?
Posted By: johnathan
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 01:01 PM
Guy's help a newbie out.Don't see water surface temp displayed anymore.Where is the setting to restore it.Tried reseting to factory settings no help.Thanks Johnathan
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 01:04 PM
So your saying it will work on trolling motor?Who has the transducer shield and saver mount?
Yes it will work on the trolling motor, I just bought a sheild and saver for a 788HD DI unit
www.transducersheildandsaver.comthey dont have them on their site yet, but give them a call and they will set you up.
Under Select Readout in Set-Up Tab is where you select the Temperature Reading to Display.
Posted By: johnathan
Re: Humminbird - 08/13/11 02:05 PM
Thanks Doug
Love your videos !
Posted By: T Bone
Re: Humminbird - 08/14/11 01:33 AM
Guys, need a little help with my 798ci HD SI.. Got it about 3 weeks ago and now that it's installed, I have an issue with the Contour XD BaseMap.. It doesn't show any depth changes or anything like that.. I tried zooming in, nothing.. Could it be a software issue or is this all there is to it? Thanks for the help..
Posted By: jsplinter
Re: Humminbird - 08/14/11 02:14 AM
have you installed the newest update? I would start with that
Posted By: T Bone
Re: Humminbird - 08/14/11 02:56 AM
I'll start there and see if it helps.. Thanks jsplinter..
I want to know if a person can determine the depth of fish that are displayed out to the side of the boat with a side image screen . I know you can determine how far away they are but can you determine their depth?
Posted By: Chad711
Re: Humminbird - 08/15/11 02:48 AM
One of the most awesome features of Side Imaging is the ability to mark waypoints away from the boat and the exact position with the 4Way Cursor. When you see fish or structure you want to mark just use the 4 Way Cursor and move over the structure you want to mark and hit the mark button and you have created a waypoint exactly on top of the structure not the boat position. In this image I have moved the cursor over the rock pile and you can see the Rock Pile Was 87.4 Foot to the Right of the boat Path and is current 155 feet away if I head 197 Degree Bearing from my current boat position.
One thing I like to do when I have a large area like a rock pile I want to fish is add multiple waypoints so I can see the complete outline on the GPS View so I can line up and fish the structure. The Red Dots would be an example of how I mark a Rock Pile or piece of structure so I can see the shape on the GPS View to make it easier to line-up to fish.
Here's a sample of the GPS VIEW I did on a rock pile...
That is freaking sweet!! Wish I knew this before! I will be using that a lot more from now on.
Question, what happens when you reach max WP allowed? Does it give you option or just not save it or delete other WP?
Guys, need a little help with my 798ci HD SI.. Got it about 3 weeks ago and now that it's installed, I have an issue with the Contour XD BaseMap.. It doesn't show any depth changes or anything like that.. I tried zooming in, nothing.. Could it be a software issue or is this all there is to it? Thanks for the help..
ContourXD is only 3,000 Lakes accross the nation. Is your lake on the list because not all are but it does provide some with this built in standard mapping feature.
That is freaking sweet!! Wish I knew this before! I will be using that a lot more from now on.
Question, what happens when you reach max WP allowed? Does it give you option or just not save it or delete other WP?
I would Export Waypoints then manage them with Humminbird PC if you got that many waypoints and then install only the ones you really need. And Delete others you don't need.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/16/11 04:10 PM
I just got my navionic premium chip installed on my 997c SI . I can't see the hot spots on the unit but could see on pc app. I am on the lake trying to find some of the hot spots thhat come on the chip. Any help?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/16/11 04:58 PM
There are no "hot spots" on the map. The software is called Hotmaps. You determine any "hot spots" by finding them yourself or getting wayponts from someone else.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/16/11 06:03 PM
So the fishing spots I see on the pc app are not on the unit map. I looked at a bunch last night.
Posted By: RandallC
Re: Humminbird - 08/17/11 01:48 PM
Hi Guys, I just bought a used 997c si, here on the TFF. I hooked it up last night and it powered up fine but the system status says the GPS in not connected. I used to install control systems so I know its hooked up right. Am I missing something or could I have gotten a bad puck or unit?
Thanks
Randall
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 08/18/11 08:20 PM
I am going to fish Arlington this weekend. I also have a 997. You can plug it in to mine and see if your unit is good. Let me know.
Posted By: RandallC
Re: Humminbird - 08/19/11 02:24 PM
Thanks Gonzz, I'm taking it to Boris at lunch today. If I need any more help I'll let ya know. Thanks again.
i have a simple question. in the humminbird kits (798) for the transducer cbl. it comes with the cbl clips to mount to the transom and ONE SPECIFIC clip that is for covering the cable if you ran the wire through the transom.
this is the part i need info on. i contacted humminbird and asked if i could be put in contact with someone on the purchasing dept on the manufacturing line so i could inquire about the source for these and or the proper name of the part so i could search online.
"We just call it A cable hole cover." this hasn't yielded any results online.
i am trying to make a custom console lamp and this one that came with my unit is exactly what i need.
a contact name/number in the manufacturing side would be very helpful.
a contact name/number in the manufacturing side would be very helpful.
That is probably a request beyond the norm. Since you talked to them on the phone why didn't you request to order one to be shipped to you ? My experience with their customer service has been very positive. I'm thinking they would sell you just that part.
i agree the customer service is extremely good.
these communications were via email and they said the part was not sold individually.
so again i replied "I figured that it wasn’t sold individually however someone has to purchase these somewhere unless Humminbird mold’s them onsite (that I highly doubt).
That being said I would like to be put in contact with purchasing manager for the manufacturing department.
This part (A cable hole cover) is in no way a proprietary part to your product line and I do not see any reason that I can’t obtain this information."
i am not trying to be an jerk but this was a simple question
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird - 08/20/11 09:01 PM
Just buy the kit, or use a clamshell cover
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/20/11 09:48 PM
crazywelder72, I've got one for you. Send me your name and mailing address.
purdum43@aol.com
I am transfering waypoints from a lowrance unit to hummingbird. I used hummingbird pc and changed waypoints to hummingbird format, but when I try to put them back on the sd card I get this error: (Data Error Null) What am I doing wrong?
RESOLVED!!!! Software issue.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/20/11 11:15 PM
See my answer on BBC
is anyone up to try to decipher a object?
i have covered this area quite a few times and this wasn't there on my way out but it was there on my way back. I cant figure out what the hell it is. it was such a hard return it was glowing white and to make matters worse it had its own shadow that was glowing white, not dark as expected as a sonar return shadow.
You are right there. Looks like Wayne P is trying to help you. I possibly may have one also. If you still need this type of part PM me and I'll check. I may not have that particular design but I may have something very similar. I think we can solve your concern.
Even though customer service is good at Humminbird, not all employees think the same. Occasionally a return call will result in contact with a different person who can think outside the box. Sometimes it just doesn't do any good.
Reminds me of the cartoon where a guy is standing at the parts counter and very assertively pointing over the clerks shoulder at the wall behind him and exclaiming "I want that part right there."
The clerk on the other hand, is intently staring at his monitor and gently shaking his head while mildly proclaiming " I'm sorry sir, computer says we don't have that part in stock."
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird - 08/21/11 04:01 PM
I found a couple out in the shop and mailed him the part he was needing.
I found a couple out in the shop and mailed him the part he was needing.
Great !
is anyone up to try to decipher a object?
i have covered this area quite a few times and this wasn't there on my way out but it was there on my way back. I cant figure out what the hell it is. it was such a hard return it was glowing white and to make matters worse it had its own shadow that was glowing white, not dark as expected as a sonar return shadow.
Looks like a floating dock to me with ledge below.
your guess is as good as anyone's. the only thing i can say for sure is it wasn't there on my way out. it's was probably a piling. i was hoping for a submarine. this is in Boston Harbor,anything is possible in these waters. there are thousands of pilings under condemned piers.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 08/24/11 04:52 PM
I had a snapshot of a tree trunk that looked just like that, but I deleted it after verifying what it was.
The next time I am at that body of water, I'll do another one
for comparison.
One thing for sure the fish and bait fish like it!
Posted By: Chad Hill
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/11 02:42 AM
Will the Navionics Platnum work in the 798SI? I will like to use it for the 3D mapping.
No, Platinum only works in the 800, 900 or 1100 Series Units.
Posted By: Snowman
Re: Humminbird - 09/03/11 01:27 PM
I have a 597 ci hd. If I want to go to a random fishing spot coordinate for the very first time, can this unit do this or do I have get a handheld GPS to punch in my coordinates?
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 09/03/11 06:22 PM
I have a 997 at my console and love it. I want to get a HD DI unit for my trolling motor to replace my x-135. What's a nice HD unit? Don't need SI in front
The only HD DI unit is the 788ci HD DI. But coming for 2012 is the 858c Di, 998c Di and 1198c DI if you want a larger screen.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 09/10/11 04:39 PM
When will the 2012 models be available?
Normally 2012 Product is released in the first quarter of the year.
Posted By: xanadu
Re: Humminbird - 09/11/11 12:45 PM
597ci hd di? But it can't be linked. Also the 596c hd di would be a little cheaper since no GPS.
The 500 Series are Stand Alone Units ONLY no linking. For Networking only the 700, 800, 900 and 1100 Series are Networkable.
The 788ci HD DI is basically the same as the 597ci HD DI except it has Networking (InterLink or Ethernet), 3 Favorite Presets, ContourXD BAse Maps, and 2 Card Readers are the difference the 788ci HD DI has over the 597ci HD DI.
Posted By: xanadu
Re: Humminbird - 09/12/11 05:05 PM
Can you hook a 597 di to a stardard 2d transducer? I was trying to figure out a way to mount a 2nd transducer on the trolling motor and installing the switch that let's you select between 2 transducers. I figured that with the constant turning back and forth of the trolling motor, I might not get very good down images that way, or would I? Thanks.
Down Imaging will not be effected by turning the trolling motor. Since Humminbird has both DI and 2D Sonar built into one transducer you can select combo view or 2D or DI so you can get the best of all worlds with a single transducer. Just change the Screen View.
Posted By: xanadu
Re: Humminbird - 09/13/11 06:19 PM
I kind of typed that last question without much detail. I was wanting to be able to switch between 2 tranducers (one on the trolling motor and the one I have on the rear. I want to be able to see what is under me up front instead of the rear transducer 16 feet behind where I would be sitting. I was looking at buying just a much cheaper 2d transducer for the front since I usually just switch to my 2d and not use the down imaging while I'm fishing. I'm not sure if a regular 2d transducer would plug in and work well with the 597 di that I have. Thanks.
You would only get the 200kHz with the 597ci HD DI. That is all the 2D sonar the unit is capable of operating. But should work fine.
Posted By: Fishinole
Re: Humminbird - 09/14/11 04:09 AM
Put a 596 HD DI on the bow last week and mounted the transducer on the trolling motor. It's a new Minnkota saltwater series. I ran power back to the console to a fuse block that runs off a dedicated battery. When I'm not using the TM the screen looks great. When I use it I get intermittent interference in the form of lines. I have tried the noise filters in advanced setup and it doesn't seem to help. In fact usually makes it worse. Any ideas?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/14/11 11:49 AM
Contact Humminbird Customer Service for assitance with the RF interference.
Be prepared to descibe your set-up with the model numbers for the motor and sonar and how both are powered.
They will probably send you the PC-11 power cord that has a choke built-in.
Posted By: Fishinole
Re: Humminbird - 09/14/11 04:26 PM
Thanks Wayne. I will do that.
speaking of viewing things from the bow vs the transom, i was thinking just the other day... (don't laugh) i was wondering would it be possible to hypothetically use a SI transducer mounted 90 degrees sideways to the keel to be used to "forward scan" the terrain ahead of the bow ???? i know it seems crazy but it might be a useful tool while underway in uncharted waters.
SI DI and everything is incredible but it would be nice to know about underwater objects in front of you before you damage your hull or motor.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/15/11 11:21 AM
I tried that a couple of days ago and the images are unrecognizable. You don't get a "scan" with the SI beam. You have to keep turning the boat to have a "scan". If you could mount the transducer on something that moves it in a sweeping motion back and fourth, then it would work.
Waypoint Management Manual:
THere is a Waypoint Management Manual that was uploaded to the SI Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sideimaging/ you will need to be a member - free to register to get to the FILES Section but here is the link if you are a member of the SI Group:
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0...A.pdf
I tried that a couple of days ago and the images are unrecognizable. You don't get a "scan" with the SI beam. You have to keep turning the boat to have a "scan". If you could mount the transducer on something that moves it in a sweeping motion back and fourth, then it would work.
that would be a simple design to fabricate. i wonder if humminbird could alter their algorithms to have images without having to oscillate the transducer?
Problem is the SI is very narrow beam when looking at it from the side or front to rear. It's narrow but wide.
Don't think it would be that useful. But SI on the trolling motor is the BOMB! Because you can scan to the side and moving the foot pedal scan in front of you.
Posted By: xanadu
Re: Humminbird - 09/16/11 05:18 PM
So why do companies not offer a forward facing sonar? One that can scan, say a 30 degree path in front of the boat? I know I might be missing the simple reason, but as far as I can see, fishing sonars bounced straight down. Then to side. You have the rear covered as long as your moving, but I have never seen anything geared towards "seeing" where you are going or moving up to the fish. Someone might say it would never work, but I bet side imaging was just a crazy thought untill someone did it.
doug,
even thou i haven't don it on the trolling mtr i can only agree that it works the bomb. you mention that "move the foot pedal to scan in front of you" that is basically what i was asking but for a different reason.
so the question remains, how well does it scan in front of you when the transducer is mounted sideways?
could this be another feature incorporated into future designs? maybe a second, smaller transducer that only has one of the 2 things that emits the frequency and it could be mounted to project along the axis of the keel of the boat. maybe even mounted to the leading edge of the lower unit?
does humminbird need any crazy thinking individuals on their R/D engineering program? (i can CAD design also)
Xandau... i like thinking out of the box
the technoligy exists since their SI already works. they would just need to include another screen and call it FS (forward scan) and utilize 1/2 of the SI transducer potted in another housing.
a few other tweaks here and there and its done yes its that simple... i should start to file my patent right away!!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/16/11 07:26 PM
There has been "talk" of an upcoming forward scanning setup with some boats being constructed for that purpose (bow transducer). I don't remember which brand was involved in the conversation.
xanadu, a regular cone shaped sonar pulse looks just as much forward as it looks backwards and to the sides, basically 360 degrees.
The Imaging transducers do not "look" rearward, just the recorded image shows what has been passed-there is no real-time image other than to the sides and below.
Posted By: RJF1423
Re: Humminbird - 09/24/11 10:04 PM
I had a problem with my GPS on my 797c2 today. It would point in the right direction and even measure how fast I was going but the screen was messed up. It didn't even show the lake on the map. Any ideas to what was wrong?
Did you have a seperate map card? Mapping data is a background that the GPS data is overlayed on. Like this video explains:
http://youtu.be/dfIf9LF2-yE
Posted By: skeeter4man
Re: Humminbird - 09/28/11 09:23 PM
Can anyone help me out. Have a 798ci side imaging combo. I ran through a low lying tree while idealing and tore the transducer off. Ordered a xnt-9-si-180-t transducer through amazon installed and now im getting no down or side imaging pictures. Hit the default button but nothing. bought unit through bps with gear guard. said it might of shorted out that i need to send in for repair.
I would call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468
Help please!!!! I just bought an 1198 and 898. 898 at bow works perfectly with its transducer mounted on trolling motor. 1198 on the other hand has some issues. I have the transducer mounted on the jack plate and a high speed transducer mounted in the hull with the correct y cable. I have both units linked with an ethernet cable. On the 1198 my side imaging is not so clear and sonar I got nothing, I tried switching to the transducer on the trolling motor and works great. So I tried disconnecting the high speed transducer and nothing, the wierd thing was that side imageing would not work without the high speed ducer pluged in. Any suggestions???
Posted By: Tree_Fish
New 798 wont power up - 10/09/11 09:14 PM
Just bought a 798, have tried hooking it up through the fuse box on a 3 amp fuse, tried hooking it directly to the battery and it wont power up. Tried it on both batterys, tested the cable and its good. Bent the pins slightly to make sure the power was seated firmly, wiggled it around, still nothing. Leaving for a tourney next wednesday, hate to go without a finder, hoping someone can give some advice to get it working.
I have a 1197c that was on my boat when I bought it, my questions are :
It only has 1 transducer under my jackplate, is this an HD SI transducer? That is what my graph is set to read.
My 2d sucks on it, I have played with the settings and its never too good, when I am 8 foot or less , even in clear mode, the surface line is like an inch from the bottom. No idea why this happening??
Also what are some basic set up settings for my SI on 1197c? I cannot get good clear images or see fish or bait very often.
Help please!!!! I just bought an 1198 and 898. 898 at bow works perfectly with its transducer mounted on trolling motor. 1198 on the other hand has some issues. I have the transducer mounted on the jack plate and a high speed transducer mounted in the hull with the correct y cable. I have both units linked with an ethernet cable. On the 1198 my side imaging is not so clear and sonar I got nothing, I tried switching to the transducer on the trolling motor and works great. So I tried disconnecting the high speed transducer and nothing, the wierd thing was that side imageing would not work without the high speed ducer pluged in. Any suggestions???
Look at the Power Cable and make sure connection are tight. Crimped on cables can cause unit to only get partial power and partially work.
What does the other unit do on the transom mount? Could be the 2D transducer installed in the ull is loose or not working properly.
Best way to test is take the Y cable out and hook SI transducer direct.
Just bought a 798, have tried hooking it up through the fuse box on a 3 amp fuse, tried hooking it directly to the battery and it wont power up. Tried it on both batterys, tested the cable and its good. Bent the pins slightly to make sure the power was seated firmly, wiggled it around, still nothing. Leaving for a tourney next wednesday, hate to go without a finder, hoping someone can give some advice to get it working.
Try hooking power cable direct to the unit not in the cable collector. IF that doesn't work call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468
I have a 1197c that was on my boat when I bought it, my questions are :
It only has 1 transducer under my jackplate, is this an HD SI transducer? That is what my graph is set to read.
My 2d sucks on it, I have played with the settings and its never too good, when I am 8 foot or less , even in clear mode, the surface line is like an inch from the bottom. No idea why this happening??
Also what are some basic set up settings for my SI on 1197c? I cannot get good clear images or see fish or bait very often.
What is your surface clutter setting? Clear Mode or Max Mode? Sensitivity Settings?
Also try without the Y Cable and see what happens with only SI transducer hooked to unit. Could be 2D transducer installation or transducer concern.
Thanks Doug that is what I was going to try next time out as far as switching units I just didn't have any tools with me at the time. I'll let you know what I find. One other question is: Do both transducers have to be pluged into the y for it to work or not? I just thought it was wierd that the side imaging did't work at all without the high speed one pluged in.
I have a 1197c that was on my boat when I bought it, my questions are :
It only has 1 transducer under my jackplate, is this an HD SI transducer? That is what my graph is set to read.
My 2d sucks on it, I have played with the settings and its never too good, when I am 8 foot or less , even in clear mode, the surface line is like an inch from the bottom. No idea why this happening??
Also what are some basic set up settings for my SI on 1197c? I cannot get good clear images or see fish or bait very often.
What is your surface clutter setting? Clear Mode or Max Mode? Sensitivity Settings?
Also try without the Y Cable and see what happens with only SI transducer hooked to unit. Could be 2D transducer installation or transducer concern.
I have watch your videos and tried adjusting the surface clutter and the sensativity and cannot get a good reading. I have also tried both clear and max modes. My boat doesn't have a seperate transducer for the 2d, I am curious if that is what it needs. I have a 788 on the bow and it reads good in the same depths.
Cross Test try the 1197c on the 788 transducer and the 788c on the 1197c transducer to test the 2D readings.
You do have latest software installed?
Can you post image of transducer install? Is these readings while idling? or Setting Still? Might be water turbulence off the hull creating issues with all sonars.
Cross Test try the 1197c on the 788 transducer and the 788c on the 1197c transducer to test the 2D readings.
You do have latest software installed?
Can you post image of transducer install? Is these readings while idling? or Setting Still? Might be water turbulence off the hull creating issues with all sonars.
I have all the updates except the latest for the way point managment.
I cannot swithc untis my 1197 is mounted in the dash of my Cat.
Do i have the transduucer setting on hte correct one for the 1197? Its set to HDSI transducer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/11/11 06:38 PM
Have you actually checked the connections on your 1197 to verify that you do not have a shoot-thru 2D transducer connected with the HDSI transducer via a Y cable or transducer switch? That is the normal installation for your boat type since you have a jackplate mounted SI transducer.
The transducer selection setting is the same as with a single HDSI transducer.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird - 10/12/11 04:20 PM
I have a 788 and a 787 with GPS, is there a place that I can enter a GPS location and it will mark it in my unit,...
or is that wishful thinking,..?
Go to the Navigation Menu in Master Menu then down to Waypoint and then to Create and you can manually enter waypoints.
Posted By: D Thomas
Re: Humminbird - 10/15/11 02:44 AM
Doug-
I have the 798cisi and recently bought a platinum south Navionics card (used). Will everything work except the 3D features?
Posted By: sexyshad
Re: Humminbird - 10/16/11 01:12 AM
Just installed my new to me 797 and wet out today and had a lot of issues getting it to pick up good reading I don't know if its bc of the transducer placement or settings.
Here is where I put the transducer.
Here is what I get when I crank the motor up with the settings I have the unit on. I had the sensitivity on 12 and the speed on 3. When I start idling the picture gets really bad.
This is a pic of pilings on a bridge if I didn't know what it was there is no way with the picture quality as bad as it is I would have known what it was.
Doug-
I have the 798cisi and recently bought a platinum south Navionics card (used). Will everything work except the 3D features?
My understanding is yes you can still view the contour charts
4.6 mph is pretty quick idle... I would try at the slowest idle speed it will give you more detail. Can you post a side view of the and wider shot of the transom so I can see what the back of the boat looks like. Could be something on the back reducing the coverage.
Posted By: sexyshad
Re: Humminbird - 10/24/11 04:54 AM
Here are the new pics I moved the transducer. I don't have a jack plate so when I crank the motor up I get some disturbance on the left side but I will deal with it. I believe these pics are better but I'm still having to idle faster up to 5mph when I slow down the pic gets shaded.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/01/11 08:06 PM
how do you access the contour xd maps on a 898? Where can I find a list of lakes covered with contour xd? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/01/11 08:43 PM
JimL, if you don't put a map card in one of the card slots, the maps will be shown in the Chart view. It is the newest background maps that replaced the Uni-Map in some units.
I have the list but don't remember where I got it. Send me an email ---purdum43@aol.com----and I'll send it to you.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/01/11 09:44 PM
Thanks Deborah, that is were I got the list but couldn't find it in the the FAQ search using Contour XD or just XD.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 02:22 AM
Thanks for the info but all I get from chart view is a choice of visible or hidden, i have it set on visible, I asume this unit does not have the contour xd, even though it is supposed to be a new unit. I'm also wondering why I am not getting a water temp displayed, the transducer appears to have a temp probe but I do not have a temp displayed on the screen. Do I need a separate temp probe or do I just not have something set right in the settings? Thanks, Jim
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 12:06 PM
Jim, have you checked a particular body of water for contour lines?
Have you selected the Temp to be displayed in one of the data locations?
Each data readout location has several choices.
That is in the "Select Readouts" menu.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 02:28 PM
I have been on Squaw Creek and only had the base map but that is the only lake so far that I've been on that is on the contour list. As for the Temp display, I have not selected a location yet, will do so now. Sorry for being so ignorant about this unit but did not get a manuel with it so it all trial and error for me, once I get it figured out I know I'll love this thing, what I've seen on it so far is amazing. Thanks for the info.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 02:33 PM
Did you get the CD manual?
If you want a paper copy, you can call Humminbird and get one.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 02:39 PM
I wish I had of gotten the cd manual, the place that ordered and installed the unit for me said there was no manual with it, I'll call HB. Thanks Wayne.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/11 02:50 PM
Jim, you can read and/or print the manual from the Humminbird web site also:
http://store.humminbird.com/media/document/M_5317431_B.pdf
Posted By: jason w
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/11 10:17 AM
I have a 1197 and can not get a depth reading on 2d sonar at more than 10 mph. I have tried to change the transducer angle several times but it has not helped. Has anyone had this problem or know what I could do to fix it, thanks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/11 01:06 PM
janson, post a picture of your tranducer installation. The hull type and construction is everything when considering a transom mounted transducer for on-plane depth readings.
One size does not fit all.
Posted By: jason w
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/11 06:13 PM
I have actually had it on two separate boats a center console and now a deep v aluminum with the same problem. It is in the only spot I can have it mounted on the back of my boat now. I can take pics but do not know how to post them and I have had at least 10 different depth finders and never had this problem.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/11 06:31 PM
Have you ever had a SI unit before or a transducer of that size? You are dealing with more than just a small 2D transducer.
To post a picture, you have to have a host site for the picture like Photobucket, then put the link to the picture in the message box here and it will show up. The link to use is the one that has img at both ends.
If you want, you can send the picture to me via email and I'll critique it for you. purdum43@aol.com
Posted By: Captain Chris
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/11 08:29 PM
Sometimes the correct answers are where you least expect them.
Posted By: fishenrod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/28/11 08:17 PM
I am installing an 1198 on the dash and a 798 HD on the bow. I am also installing INTERLINK. I got a thru transom for the 1198. Can I use the same thru transom transducer for the 798 on the bow thru the INTERLINK? If so do I want to? If not should I get another thru Hull for the 798 and move it closer to the bow? I am really trying to avoid a transducer on my trolling motor. Or is that wrong thinking and I should get the trolling motor transducer too?
Thanks for any help guys. I am new to this product.
If you have a 798ci HD I would recommend the Ethernet versus InterLink. Alot of reasons. One being able to share hardware like the transducer, GPS Receiver, Temp Probe and new accessories coming plus the speed of data transfer is faster with Ethernet than InterLink. But you have to have the HD 798 model. You will need an adapter cable and ethernet cable to hookup.
I personally like the SI on the trolling motor. WIth Ethernet you could switch back and forth but to me having data from the trolling motor is more beneficial.
Posted By: fishenrod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/28/11 11:12 PM
If you have a 798ci HD I would recommend the Ethernet versus InterLink. Alot of reasons. One being able to share hardware like the transducer, GPS Receiver, Temp Probe and new accessories coming plus the speed of data transfer is faster with Ethernet than InterLink. But you have to have the HD 798 model. You will need an adapter cable and ethernet cable to hookup.
I personally like the SI on the trolling motor. WIth Ethernet you could switch back and forth but to me having data from the trolling motor is more beneficial.
Yes I am getting the 798ci hd si. So should I still get a troling tranducer as well? i thought Interlink did all the things you say a ethernet did?
Posted By: Mxbubs
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/12/11 04:14 AM
I am installing an 1198 on the dash and a 798 HD on the bow. I am also installing INTERLINK. I got a thru transom for the 1198. Can I use the same thru transom transducer for the 798 on the bow thru the INTERLINK? If so do I want to? If not should I get another thru Hull for the 798 and move it closer to the bow? I am really trying to avoid a transducer on my trolling motor. Or is that wrong thinking and I should get the trolling motor transducer too?
Thanks for any help guys. I am new to this product.
Interlink is garbage..Go Ethernet.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/12/11 11:46 AM
Interlink will not allow for sharing a transducer. You should be using Ethernet. Those units are Ethernet capable. Also with the Ethernet connection, there is no extra box and cables, just the single Ethernet cable that gives faster and more inter-unit communication functions.
You will need the Ethernet adaptor (AS EC QDE) for the 798ci HD SI
If you fish, a trolling motor mounted SI transducer is way more functional.
Posted By: 21elite
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/12/11 12:55 PM
Wayne, can Ethernet be used to link a 1197 and a 997.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/12/11 03:40 PM
I don't think the 997 has an Ethernet port. That port is round with threads on the outside of the connection. It is covered by a rubber plug.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/12/11 03:42 PM
Additionally the Ethernet connection is not part of the cable collector on the 800, 900, and 1100 series units. It is on The 798ci HD SI.
Humminbird 2012 Software Update for the 898c and 998c...
You will have the ability to remove the readout boxes on the Left side of your Side Imaging View and now have the depth and the temp displayed at the bottom of the screen. Now you can maximize your viewing area for Side Imaging. This software will be released in January for the 898 and the 998.
Posted By: fishenrod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/23/11 09:33 PM
I just installed a 1198 and a 898. I also added a thru hull transducer. I used a Y cable for the factory 1198 and thru hull transducer. I cannot get eh thru hull to show up on networking. I looked closer at the Y cable box and it only mentions 1197 compatible. Is that issue?
The Y Cable splits the 2D readings out of the SI Transducer to a second 2D Transducer. The unit sees alls the elements and see it as a complete SI Transducer so you will see only one transducer listed on the Ethernet Menu for the 1198c.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/11 12:05 AM
I am planning on installing a 798 on my Sea Ark Stealth. Problem is, the transom is stairstepped and the water intake is directly in the way if I put the transducer 15" away from motor. I would have to put it about 12" to the side of the motor and drop it down so the top of ducer is about 1/2" below the bottom of the boat. Will this work or by the pic does anyone see a better way to install the transducer? Like directly in front of the bottom bunk board which would put the transducer only about 8" away from motor but away from rib and below the intake.(?)
Thanks for any and all help.
You could possibly block it back but may need to trim the motor to see to the opposite side. Might talk to
www.transdcuershieldandsaver.com they have a neat spring back bracket that will add some extra protection for that mounting location too.
Posted By: Captain Chris
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/11 01:58 AM
"...am planning on installing a 798 on my Sea Ark Stealth. Problem is, the transom is stairstepped"
"Stair-step" or setback transoms no longer present any imaging or high speed transducer mounting issues when installed correctly. SternMate™ has the "RULES" and the tools to do it correctly the 1st time!
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/30/11 04:19 PM
Images from a HB 598DI.
I am fishing a new lake and can't decide if these images are a brush pile or fish schools.
They are taken from a large flat area with little bottom structure.
All help appreciated.
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You have just a little brush but a whole lot of fish!
Top image on the right side you have fish munching on a bait ball too.
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/31/11 03:53 AM
Thanks Doug. Some times I can't distinguish the brush piles from the schools.
A brush or limb the returns are normally connected like right in the middle on the bottom in top image above straight above your second image the Fish ID 14' Depth Fish see the log? The fish have no connection and are more dots the bigger dots are bigger fish and the bait balls are like clouds or really small dots. Hope that helps.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/04/12 04:29 PM
Doug,
In the views available for the 1198, can a future update make it possible to have a three screen view showing SI, DI and Chart all in the same view. This would really help keep boat in position while viewing SI and DI. The current three way view does not include Chart. Thanks.
Also, what are your three favorite views for your three preset view buttons?
That could be...not sure what the masterminds at Humminbird are working on.
I don't use chart much with my sonar readings because of the ease to change in one click to another favorite with Humminbird. I run 2 sets of favorites depending on what I'm doing
Searching - Practice Days
1) 10% 2D and 90% GPS Mapping for running the lake
2) 10% 2D,DI and 90% SI
3) Full Screen SI
Tournament Days
1) 50% GPS Mapping and 50% GPS Mapping Zoomed In
2) 90% SI and 10% GPS Mapping
3) Full Screen SI
3)
Posted By: johnny123
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/05/12 03:06 AM
Can you use eitherlink to link a 787c2 and 989si to share waypoints?
Posted By: tworod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/05/12 06:55 PM
Humminbird 2012 Software Update for the 898c and 998c...
You will have the ability to remove the readout boxes on the Left side of your Side Imaging View and now have the depth and the temp displayed at the bottom of the screen. Now you can maximize your viewing area for Side Imaging. This software will be released in January for the 898 and the 998.
Doug, is this the 5.7 sw? or is it not out yet? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/05/12 09:23 PM
No is it not 5.700, it will be a higher number.
The waypoint management update is 5.840 for some units already released.
The new 898/998 software hasn't been released yet.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/05/12 11:01 PM
When in simulator mode, is it possilbe to see my loaded Navionics card and use cursor to move around in the maps?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/05/12 11:50 PM
Yes, in Simulator you can use all the settings and functions that are used in normal operating mode except you won't see a temp readout and you cannot choose which location to show the temp. unless you have the transducer connected or a aux temp sensor connected.
I use my units in my den a lot for software updates, waypoint management, practicing with settings, and as a reference for answering questions like this.
Can you use eitherlink to link a 787c2 and 989si to share waypoints?
You can InterLink but not Ethernet since the 787c2 is not Ethernet compatible but the INterLink will work with those two models.
Posted By: johnny123
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/06/12 07:57 PM
Thanks Doug, is it worth it? I have heard it is not all that great and can be a hassle to try to get the bugs worked out. What are your thoughts on it?
Both Systems Work fine. I've used InterLink for several Years and Ethernet this year and both are great networking. Ethernet just has more expandability.
Posted By: jthig32
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/07/12 07:32 PM
Yes, in Simulator you can use all the settings and functions that are used in normal operating mode except you won't see a temp readout and you cannot choose which location to show the temp. unless you have the transducer connected or a aux temp sensor connected.
I use my units in my den a lot for software updates, waypoint management, practicing with settings, and as a reference for answering questions like this.
Would you (or anyone else) be willing to share how you are setup to run your unit in your house? Do you just lug a battery in? Did you rig up a DC adapter?
I've seen references on other forums to wiring up a cigarette connection and using a portable power pack or an AC to DC converter with a cigarette plug.
Would be curious to hear what everyone has done, and specific links to products if you have them.
I use a AC/DC Convertor and hook to a power cable. Radio Shack has alot of different AC/DC Convertors I use a 3 Amp Max to operate mine. Be careful because you don't want to overpower and damage your electronics.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/08/12 12:31 AM
From Radio Shack:
The plug has a built in fuse holder. Change it to 3A.
Posted By: Junk
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/08/12 11:51 PM
I am having issues with my 1197 powering off at high speeds. I saw in the manual that it says:
"If the power output of your boats engine is unregulated, the control head may be protecting itself using its over-voltage protection feature. Make sure the input voltage does not exceed 20 volts"
This sounds like it is my problem, but how do I check/control this so that it doesnt power off. Surely its ok to have it powered on while running, right?
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/09/12 12:29 AM
You check it by setting one of the digital displays to Voltage and watch it.
If the voltage is not high, a slight "adjustment" of the power cord plug pins may fix it IF your boat wiring is adequate.
Posted By: MikeT
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/09/12 04:10 AM
I have a Lowrance NMEA 2000 system. Is it compatible with the Humminbird units? I have a 2 year old 788ci pre HD and DI. Guess I bought it too soon!
Thanks Mike
To Connect to NEMA 2000 you will need Ethernet Compatible Model. The connector is not released yet but should be coming very soon to connect to all NEMA 2000 Networks and display information on the graph.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/09/12 07:27 PM
I now have my two 1198s connected with an ethernet connnection. I have separate trandsducers and gps antennae. What settings on the ethernet tab do I need to set? Thanks. Ron
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/10/12 12:09 AM
Wirebender,
I have a couple of 1198c SI units also, but do not have them interconnected (don't need that feature).
Here is the Ethernet manual:
http://store.humminbird.com/media/document/Ethernet_Manual.pdf
First Name Each Unit - I call my Bow and COnsole then select the transducer and GPS receiver connected to each unit. You can select the same temp probe in each unit or I like to use the console transducer temp probe that way all readings are from the same temp probe and the one in the water the most. Then select share GPS Data. That's all you need to do.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/10/12 04:42 AM
I would like to thank everyone that helped a rookie install his first unit, but a really big thanks to Mr. Wayne P.
Wayne you were right on the money on everything and I am getting great pictures and am even getting good pics onplane running at 40mph. A bit to much info but the depth veiw is perfect for me.
Great place TFF!!
Share some of those images with us. We love to see images from users.
Here is a list of Humminbird Untis that are Compatible with LakeMaster Mapping Products:
Here are some images of the new NEMA Display for new Humminbird Hardware Features for 2012. There will be some customazation of the screens but not 100% sure all the custom features. These are images from Marketing Department to show examples of what is to come real soon. NEMA Views show Twin Engine Display but will also work with Single Engines hooked to a NEMA
Static Instrument View
Dynamic Instrument View
Data Bow View
And for 2012 Humminbird will have Radar offering with Optional Ethernet connected Radar Unit from Humminbird.
ANd combo view with GPS Mapping
Posted By: onthebank
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/23/12 09:36 PM
I just bought a used Pond Prowler that came with a Hmminbird 500 series downscan sonar. I have never fished with a fishfinder before so I'm not very saavy with the nuances of the transducer, engine noise, etc., but took it out yesterday fro a test and to my dissapointment didn't get a thing to display after it powered up. After th power up screen I get a screen that says to hit menu for startup options. Once I do the display goes blank however the unit still makes noise when I hit buttons.
Does anyone have any tips that I can try? I didn't see any debris or buildup on the transducer. I also don't knw what the charge remaning on the battery was.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/12 12:46 AM
If you didn't get the manual with the unit, you can look up your unit on the Humminbird web site, then read or print the manual. You can also call Humminbird Customer Service for manual.
When it gives you that message don't do anything until the next screen appears, then push the EXIT button.
Additionally, where is the unit transducer installed?
Posted By: onthebank
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/12 04:13 AM
I checked the manual online but haven't called humminbird yet. According to the manual I should get a settings menu once I hit the menu button after the start up screen loads but nada. That is where it goes blank.
The transducer is mounted aft on the bottom right. It appears to be mounted properly. The previous owner insists that he never experienced the issue. ???
I would check the Power Supply to make sure you are not dropping voltage or current at that point. If that is fine I would call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 and they can help or get the unit back into to repair the problem.
Here is some of the New 2012 Hardware Accessories from Humminbird:
NEMA 2000 Bridge to connect to NEMA 2000 Backbone:
5 Port Ethernet Hub (Can be stacked if you need additional Ports):
Humminbird 12" Radome for Radar:
Posted By: nascardriver
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/01/12 11:51 PM
Question? I have a 788c on the bow and in the console, the one in the console shows a split screen like a side scan, can these be made side scan with a side scan transducer? The one on the bow does not show this screen.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/12 01:11 AM
No 788 model can be a Side Imaging unit.
Which of the four different models of 788 do you have (the whole model name)?
788c
788ci
788ci HD
788ci HD DI
The non-DI units can use the Quad Beam transducers which some call a poor man's side imaging.
Sounds like you are looking at the QuadraBeam View which the 788c can use that transducer.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/12 10:39 PM
I have the 798ciSi HD combo on the console and am running a y cable with a transom mount for the side imaging and a thru the hull ducer for higher speed operation.The system works great but now for my question.I would like to add a larger screen model to the console and move the 798 to the bow off the trolling motor.Will the transducers I have currently wired to the console work with the 998 model with SI or do I have to start rigging it all over again?
Posted By: nascardriver
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/12 11:46 PM
I have the 788c, the book ( that I just aquired) says the 700 series supports wide side sonar with the purchase of the optional transducer. It says the side beams are 16 degree 455 khz.
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/12 03:43 PM
Anyone, can you interpret this screenshot. I seldom see the same features in sonar as DI. Is this a school of fish or some other feature?
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/12 04:16 PM
It could be fish or it could be brush/tree. It must have been windy also. If you remain stationary and those returns move, it's fish.
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/12 04:32 PM
Thanks. We were drifting at about .3 MPH. I've never seen brush on the bottom in this area, so I guess I can assume it is fish.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/12 05:00 PM
This is a pod of baitfish moving by as the boat was just about stationary:
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/05/12 01:20 AM
This is a pod of baitfish moving by as the boat was just about stationary:
Looks like a school of fish chasing a bait ball. Once you go over them they fish are diving. Could be Whites.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/05/12 02:36 AM
I assume by Nasscardrivers reply that I can hook a 998 to my current transducers and use the ducer that commes with the 998 on the trolling motor for the 798?
Posted By: crash519
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/12 09:23 PM
From my reading, in this post, if you have a 798ci SI and you upgrade the software you will have DI capabilities. How is the imagery in comparison to a DI only unit? How does it do the DI off the transducer? For my application, a pontoon, I'm going to have to run another transducer and a y-cable due to motor interference on the left side of the SI. How does the 2D and DI work with a y-cable?
Thanks in advance! This forum has been a huge help!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/12 09:42 PM
DI with a Side Imaging unit is a software interpretation of the SI images produced by the two SI crystals.
A DI unit has a dedicated Down Imaging crystal so the images will be sharper.
When you use the AS SILR Y cable for the two SI tranducer setup, only one of the SI transducers will be giving you the 2D and temperature. I think it is the right side transducer.
Posted By: crash519
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/12 02:13 AM
DI with a Side Imaging unit is a software interpretation of the SI images produced by the two SI crystals.
A DI unit has a dedicated Down Imaging crystal so the images will be sharper.
When you use the AS SILR Y cable for the two SI tranducer setup, only one of the SI transducers will be giving you the 2D and temperature. I think it is the right side transducer.
So in the case of it being mounted on two pontoons 7 or so feet apart, the interpreted image would probably not be of the best quaility since there would be a gap between the left and right signals? Looks like I may just hve to stick with a DI unit only
Posted By: James Roberts
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/12 07:32 PM
Ok, so I have had interferance from the big motor from the beginning. Shut the motor off and it is great. I have adjusted the noise filter, and when it gets to level 3 it clears up but will only show the bottom. I have also rewired the power cable directly to a battery. I have a 997si. Please help!
Thanks,
JR
Where are the transducer cables run? Try to keep them away from Electric Tachs. Also does your motor have resistor type plugs?
Call HB Customer Service they should be able to help.
HD Designation is to tell the public the 5" Screen is the Industries Highest Pixel COunt Display of 640 Horizintal and 640 Vertical Pixels. This is new on many of the 500 Series Models and has been the same on the 700 Series for several years. On the 700 Series HD unit it also signifies that the unit is Ethernet Capable Unit and 2011 Model.
Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird - 02/15/12 03:56 AM
Doug V, Any word on when the new software will be released for the 898 and like models?
I have not heard anything yet as to an official release date. It's still coming but no date is given until it is released.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird - 02/16/12 02:55 AM
I have not heard anything yet as to an official release date. It's still coming but no date is given until it is released.
Thanks for the responce! Your Great Doug!
Posted By: ShawnT
Re: Humminbird - 02/18/12 04:26 AM
I want to see side imaging pics from anyone not named Doug, or Wayne or any other Humminbird rep. I've been seeing a ton of great shots by allot of different people with the Lowrance units lately. Way better shots than I ever have gotten with my 997.
Apprantley you can some pretty amazing shots with the Lowrance right out of the box with out a ton of configuring that must be needed with the Humminbird. Either that or mine doesnt work very well
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Humminbird - 02/18/12 01:42 PM
I want to see side imaging pics from anyone not named Doug, or Wayne or any other Humminbird rep.
There is one from JR Howard in the middle of page 2, pretty cool pic of a dock or something. It is the only pics I have seen from anyone other than D.V or W.P. Those guys are good with their graphs!
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/7072580/Re_Bird_vs_Lowrance#Post7072580And check out the pic from Adam P!
Now that dude has his unit dialed in!!!
I wonder in the future if that might be what we can see with these suckers.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird - 02/18/12 07:35 PM
How do you turn on the temperature reading on a 898? I have been told before but did'nt write it down and cant find the post. Thanks, Jim
I want to see side imaging pics from anyone not named Doug, or Wayne or any other Humminbird rep. I've been seeing a ton of great shots by allot of different people with the Lowrance units lately. Way better shots than I ever have gotten with my 997.
Apprantley you can some pretty amazing shots with the Lowrance right out of the box with out a ton of configuring that must be needed with the Humminbird. Either that or mine doesnt work very well
Here you go...there are hundreds and hundreds of images on these websites of Humminbird Images from Around the World of Humminbird Users:
Yahoo SI Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sideimaging/Side Imaging Soft Forum:
http://forums.sideimagingsoft.com/index.phpUnOfficial Humminbird Forum:
http://www.xumba.scholleco.com/index.phpThis THread has some too:
http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=227957&page=6And this Page has many images:
http://www.bbcboards.net/zeroforum?id=280
How do you turn on the temperature reading on a 898? I have been told before but did'nt write it down and cant find the post. Thanks, Jim
Go to Set-up Tab in Master Menu (Hit Menu Button Twice) make sure you are in Advanced User Mode then go down to "Select Readout" then select one of the Readouts to Temp.
Posted By: JimL
Re: Humminbird - 02/19/12 05:49 AM
thank you sir.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 02/19/12 01:05 PM
I want to see side imaging pics from anyone not named Doug, or Wayne or any other Humminbird rep. I've been seeing a ton of great shots by allot of different people with the Lowrance units lately. Way better shots than I ever have gotten with my 997.
Apprantley you can some pretty amazing shots with the Lowrance right out of the box with out a ton of configuring that must be needed with the Humminbird. Either that or mine doesnt work very well
tamale, I am not sponsored nor do I have any affiliation with Humminbird. I just an average retired Joe that fishes because I like to. The screen shots I post are done as I am fishing and I do those as I see interesting stuff that may be of interest to others and show certain topics that are discussed occasionally. I don't try to get any particular results when I decide to take a screen shot. I just happen to notice what is on the screen and push the Mark button.
Some of the screen shots I post are from other owner's units that I have helped with the setup and operation and were done while fishing.
Being familiar with your equipment is all it takes.
I am not sponsored nor do I have any affiliation with Humminbird. I just an average retired Joe that fishes because I like to. The screen shots I post are done as I am fishing and I do those as I see interesting stuff that may be of interest to others and show certain topics that are discussed occasionally. I don't try to get any particular results when I decide to take a screen shot. I just happen to notice what is on the screen and push the Mark button.
Some of the screen shots I post are from other owner's units that I have helped with the setup and operation and were done while fishing.
Being familiar with your equipment is all it takes.
Wayne is correct. He's Addicted to Side Scaning Sonar and Humminbird - he does not get promotion help from Humminbird in any way shape or form that I know of. Wayne I tahnk you for giving your time to help other! I appreciate it and sure Humminbird does too! I know the other owners do.
Yes I do but I use the exact same product you can buy off the shelf. If your not getting images like we and many others post you either have settings or installation issue. The only way to help is start a New Topic here and share your installation images and screen captures you are getting with the settings you are running. I'm here to help but you have to give me something to work with I don't have ESP to see what's happening but I can look at images and make suggestion to where your unit or settings are not setup correctly. I've had some owners send me a video clip of operation. So I can see how they are driving and the unit. If you want help I'm here to help.
Posted By: jmc
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/12 02:05 AM
This has probably been covered before, but I can't find it. How do I convert my Lowrance waypoints to HB. I used Babel and it said I had made the conversion, but my 788ci si doesn't show any waypoints when I put the SD disk in. Is there something I am doing wrong? It reads the Navionics disc, so I figure the card reader is OK. Any ideas? Thanks
Jim
Posted By: billybob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/26/12 01:50 PM
I've recently purchased a 385ci di to mount on my pond prowler. While humminbird has provided an excellent control head mounting system...it does not work for my use. I remove both the trolling motor and control head and store the boat outside under cover. Is there anyone who builds pigtails for both the tranducer and the power so I can leave them connected as intended by the mount design?
This has probably been covered before, but I can't find it. How do I convert my Lowrance waypoints to HB. I used Babel and it said I had made the conversion, but my 788ci si doesn't show any waypoints when I put the SD disk in. Is there something I am doing wrong? It reads the Navionics disc, so I figure the card reader is OK. Any ideas? Thanks
Jim
They have to be in a Folder Labelled "Matrix" so the unit sees the folder when you insert the card in the unit or the best way is to use Humminbird PC. Here's how:
http://youtu.be/vKMq_PWSSII
I've recently purchased a 385ci di to mount on my pond prowler. While humminbird has provided an excellent control head mounting system...it does not work for my use. I remove both the trolling motor and control head and store the boat outside under cover. Is there anyone who builds pigtails for both the tranducer and the power so I can leave them connected as intended by the mount design?
There is nothing that I know of for your needs but you might call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they may have a suggestion or option.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/12 04:52 PM
Humminibird Software update for the 898c SI, 998c SI, and 1198c SI is in your account now.
The 898 and 998 update includes the left side data box removal for the SI view--it is not an automatic setting, it is selectable.
For all three models, it adds the new Waypoint Management that matches the HumminbirdPC 4.2
There are a few more additions, review the new menus.
Here is a Video Clip with Tips to Help you Dowload and Install the new Software:
http://youtu.be/-TZtvcpzQRM
Posted By: Whiskey Bob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/12 09:14 AM
Question .. wanting to move up to the 1198 .. currently running the 788ci ... I keep reading about how critical the SI transducer placement is ... the 788 transducer works great in its current location...
will this same location work for the 1198 SI transducer ?
Heres some pics.. would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions !
Rob.
That would be the best place to start.
Posted By: Whiskey Bob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/12 06:51 PM
So Doug, Based on all your Experience... that's Likley to be Ok?
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to start and finish at the same time would be a Dream and would love to get it rite the first time !
What concerns and considerations or simple advice when mounting the SI Transducer are given the most weight...
1.?
2.?
3.?
Thanks for your help !
Posted By: Whiskey Bob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/12 08:45 PM
Posted By: sktrbug
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/12 09:56 PM
Does anyone have a good deal on a 998c?
Posted By: Donald Harper
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/12 04:47 PM
Question on Cards:
I have a new boat with depth finder models, 798c in bow and a 998 SI on the console.
Will my old Nav. Premium Hotmaps 09 cards work in these two units? Do I need to get something different?
Posted By: champ 198
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/12 06:10 PM
It should work,I have older than that still works fine.
Posted By: Dmcputtz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/09/12 11:23 PM
I've read through most of these pages of info. Most seem to pertain to the mid/high end models.
I'm looking to purchase a "lower end" model to replace my 727 that is no longer functioning. I'm looking at the 581I Combo unit to replace it since the 581I appears to meet most of the needs and types of fishing/boating that I currently employ.
Question-Would I need to replace the current transducer/mount/wiring with this model. The 727 has a MS2-Y mount. My boat/engine repair guy said the unit doesn't work anymore and I guess that I have to trust him, but have been wanting to upgrade for awhile.
Also, any pros vs. cons concerning the 581 model?
Thanks in advance.
Doug Mc
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/10/12 01:06 AM
Most of the specs and parts are the same. The 581i has less power.
Check the Humminbird web site for comparison.
Get a second opinion about the health of your 727 and not from the same location that said it doesn't work.
do you know anyone with another 500 or 700 Series unit you should be able to snap on and test your 727 and test there headunit on your set-up to make sure your unit is what is not working.
But your other question and 500 0r 700 Series 2D sonar unit will work on that same hardware and base.
Posted By: Dmcputtz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/10/12 04:58 PM
Most of the specs and parts are the same. The 581i has less power.
Check the Humminbird web site for comparison.
Get a second opinion about the health of your 727 and not from the same location that said it doesn't work.
Thank you, and Doug for the reply.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/14/12 11:15 PM
I have the 798ciSi HD combo on the console and am running a y cable with a transom mount for the side imaging and a thru the hull ducer for higher speed operation.The system works great but now for my question.I would like to add a larger screen model to the console and move the 798 to the bow off the trolling motor.Will the transducers I have currently wired to the console work with the 998 model with SI or do I have to start rigging it all over again?
Asking this question again.I didnt see an answer to it.Thanks
The Shoot Thru and Y Cable are the same...
And the Compact SI Transducer will work but has smaller crystals and only produces 455kHz readings...
The HDSI transducer is standard on the larger models and is a dual frequency 455 and 800 kHz transducer with larger crystals that produce a crisper image.
I would recommend changing out the SI Transducer to take advantage of the benefits. But the other will work but limits the units capabilities.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/12 08:45 AM
Thankyou Doug!
Posted By: onthebank
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/12 02:43 PM
I'm having an issue with my 500 series display shutting down rather quickly after initial power up. The unit stays on and will beep when I hit buttons but doesn't display anything. I am assuming this is some sort of power issue.
I have it set up on a pond prowler and run it off of the same battery as the trolling motor. The transducer is mounted on the stern. I have a seperate 12v SLA battery that i have tried it on to provide an independent power source but get the same result.
I have tried the pin adjustment that i read in an earlier posting with no success. My next step is to completely disconnecting the unit and re-wire everything to see if I can trouble shoot the issue. Is there anything else I can try? Maybe a fuse in the power connection? The original owner said he never had any issues.
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 03/29/12 08:04 PM
I have a 597HdDi and I want to manually enter the coordinates of a desired waypoint. Is it possisble to enter this and if so, how to??
I've been thru the 155 page manual three times without finding any mention of this.
Thanks.
I'm having an issue with my 500 series display shutting down rather quickly after initial power up. The unit stays on and will beep when I hit buttons but doesn't display anything. I am assuming this is some sort of power issue.
I have it set up on a pond prowler and run it off of the same battery as the trolling motor. The transducer is mounted on the stern. I have a seperate 12v SLA battery that i have tried it on to provide an independent power source but get the same result.
I have tried the pin adjustment that i read in an earlier posting with no success. My next step is to completely disconnecting the unit and re-wire everything to see if I can trouble shoot the issue. Is there anything else I can try? Maybe a fuse in the power connection? The original owner said he never had any issues.
Make sure the unit is getting adequate power supply and it fits firmly on the base you can cross test by removing cables from Mounting base and plugging direct.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 03/30/12 02:09 AM
I have a 597HdDi and I want to manually enter the coordinates of a desired waypoint. Is it possisble to enter this and if so, how to??
I've been thru the 155 page manual three times without finding any mention of this.
Thanks.
Go to the Navigation Menu then Waypoints and Create and will allow you manually enter waypoint.
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 03/30/12 02:57 AM
Thanks Doug. Obviously I missed it. I'll try it tomorrow morning before heading out.
Posted By: 97ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 03/31/12 12:50 AM
i have a 797 si and it only scans on the left side. the right side is just black. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 03/31/12 01:37 AM
ranger, has it always been that way or is it just recent?
Posted By: 97ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/02/12 04:12 AM
been that way since i bought the boat. i bought a new transducer and just plugged it in and it does the same thing.i didnt even mount the new transducer
Posted By: CrappieKyle
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/03/12 07:59 PM
When I put my HDS on Standby the screen goes dark and flashes "Lowrance" intermittently...but what else is it doing? Does the sonar tranducer continue to pulse or is it silenced. I ask because when it turn it back on it seems that it has continued to use both the sonar and LSS1 because it has a lot of recent history available and I think it is interfering with my front sonar a little.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/04/12 01:33 AM
When I put my HDS on Standby the screen goes dark and flashes "Lowrance" intermittently...but what else is it doing? Does the sonar tranducer continue to pulse or is it silenced. I ask because when it turn it back on it seems that it has continued to use both the sonar and LSS1 because it has a lot of recent history available and I think it is interfering with my front sonar a little.
I think you have the wrong forum Kyle...Lowrance Thread will probably get you help...our solution would be to get a Humminbird
Posted By: CrappieKyle
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/05/12 11:15 AM
When I put my HDS on Standby the screen goes dark and flashes "Lowrance" intermittently...but what else is it doing? Does the sonar tranducer continue to pulse or is it silenced. I ask because when it turn it back on it seems that it has continued to use both the sonar and LSS1 because it has a lot of recent history available and I think it is interfering with my front sonar a little.
I think you have the wrong forum Kyle...Lowrance Thread will probably get you help...our solution would be to get a Humminbird
Quoting Gov. Perry here......OOPS!!
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/14/12 01:23 AM
I run a Humminbird 383c up front attached to my Minnkota Terrova w/US2. I have been thinking about upgrading to a Humminbird 587-ci HD DI. Will the US2 transducer in my TM work with the 587?
Posted By: UJC
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/14/12 02:18 AM
I run a Humminbird 383c up front attached to my Minnkota Terrova w/US2. I have been thinking about upgrading to a Humminbird 587-ci HD DI. Will the US2 transducer in my TM work with the 587?
Dave, the HB units with DI will not work with the US2. You will have to place it on the trolling motor bottom and thread it up the shaft. This is well explained in the (I believe) crappie.com forum. I just did this in March with my Terrova US2. I have the HB 597ci HD DI.
Jimmy
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/14/12 07:32 PM
Thanks for the reply Jimmy. I kinda figured it wouldn't work since my 798ci SI didn't when I tried to run it with the US2. Had to ask the question anyways to be sure.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/14/12 08:35 PM
DaveB, your 798ci SI will work with the US2 IF you just want to use the unit for 2D sonar. Universal Sonar 2 is one of the choices in the Transducer Select items in the Sonar menu.
The US2 won't do Imaging though.
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/14/12 09:05 PM
DaveB, your 798ci SI will work with the US2 IF you just want to use the unit for 2D sonar. Universal Sonar 2 is one of the choices in the Transducer Select items in the Sonar menu.
The US2 won't do Imaging though.
It in fact worked great as a 2D sonar. May just stay with my 383c up front. It's been a good unit.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/15/12 01:12 PM
If you want to upgrade the 778c HD or 788c HD (2D Only) will work with the US2 Sonar.
Posted By: RapTrap
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 04/19/12 05:06 AM
Hopefully this is not annoying repeat question I searched but found nothing.
I have a 788ci HD DI unit that I purchased new 1 year ago. Recently I started losing GPS and getting a message "No GPS Receiver Connected" If I turn the unit off and on again it usually remedies the problem but sometimes it works for 5 minutes sometimes the rest of the trip. I am using firmware version 5.500 and the serial# is 11021003-0360
Any info on what is causing this would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Chris Coufal
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/20/12 12:29 AM
Anyone know what would cause my down image to cut out after a certain depth? My 2D images and side scan are all fine......and this happens when I use DI in anything deeper than 30-40FOW. It just started happening and I haven't changed any settings.
This is on a HB 798ci HD SI/DI unit
Posted By: Chris Coufal
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/12 02:46 PM
no one?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/12 03:10 PM
Do you have a trolling motor on your kayak? That looks like RF interference.
Posted By: Chris Coufal
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/12 09:45 PM
No....no other electronics
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/12 10:11 PM
Since DI is a computer generated image of the two SI beams, maybe your paddle was creating the echoes that made the "disturbance".
OR you were making turns that were skewing the image.
The SI beams "see" from past vertical under the transducer to the water surface.
my di went on the fritz showing .6 feet and the sonar was not showing much. luckily i have 2 weeks left on the warranty and sent it back for 13.50 shipping
Posted By: Chris Coufal
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/22/12 01:23 AM
Naw It's not from the paddle and I wasn't turning. I think it's something with the transducer because it's never done this and all of the sudden the last 2 trips it started. No settings have changed and nothing has changed in the kayak. I guess I will just send it in.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/22/12 12:17 PM
Have you checked the voltage readout to see if you have proper voltage? Computers do strange things without the correct power.
Posted By: Chris Coufal
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/22/12 03:16 PM
I didn't check, but I charge my battery every trip out. I assumed that since I have the alarm set to tell me when it drops below 10, and in addition, it did this at the start of a 12hr fishing trip that it wasn't the battery or it would have went dead.
After someone else posted about the DI being produced from the SI scan, I thought I would go check to make sure I didn't have my SI set too shallow, thinking it might cause it. It was still set to 60ft so it wasn't that either. Unit has the latest software and the depth setting is set to Auto.
Posted By: junbengreat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/12 06:21 PM
I have a Humminbird 597 ci hd di. I recently purchased Navionics premium south sd card and immediately plugged it into my computer for the updates Navionics had. This is the first card I have ever used on my fish finder. I put card in FF and it says loading charts but doesn't do anything. I can use sonar and DI just fine but the body of water I'm on doesn't show up anymore. It marks my gps route that I have been on but it shows up like I'm on land. Please help as I am new to both FF and Navionics.
Posted By: Shawn the printer
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/01/12 04:27 PM
I just had this problem. Sent it in and they sent a new power cable back with it.
Works fine now.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/12 05:15 PM
"the body of water I'm on doesn't show up anymore"
How do you know it did show up before if you didn't use the card before you did the update? Is the body of water listed on the Navionics web site?
Is the outline of the the body of water included with the Uni-map background, but not on the Navionics chip?
Posted By: junbengreat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/12 07:54 PM
Let me clarify. I thought it showed water on the uni map but my buddy confirmed it didn't. Gps is working fine. I bought the FF 6 months ago and have never installed any type of SD card. I recently purchased a brand new out of the box Navionics Premium South card. I pulled it out of the box and directly onto my computer because Navionics had new updates for lakes. The download from computer to card was successful. I then put the Navionics card in my 597 FF and it says loading charts but nothing shows up. I have left it loading for half a day while we fished and it still shows up as loading charts. A Humminbird rep told me to check the diagnostics screen to see if the FF was reading the card? It reads the card but no maps. I have already had to send in the transducer because it was faulty! Idk if I have a bad head unit or I installed the card wrong but it's not working. Reccomendations before I send it in a 2nd time?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/12 11:40 PM
You may have done the Navionics update when they were having a server issue and ones that did updates during that period got incomplete data.
Do the update again and that may take care of it.
Also did you check the Navionics website to see if the body of water you want is included?
Posted By: junbengreat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/02/12 02:33 AM
It is a brand new card. I figured it would load right up.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/02/12 02:49 AM
It probably would have loaded right up like a brand new card IF you hadn't changed it with the update attempt.
Posted By: junbengreat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/02/12 03:26 AM
So what do you reccomended I do? Send it in to Humminbird because it can't handle a Navionics update?!
Posted By: tworod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/03/12 03:18 PM
Ok, call me lazy but did not want to scroll thru 41 pages to see if my question was asked already (which I think it was). I have a HB 898 SI on the console, it has the housing that holds all the wires together to plug them into the unit, when I go across the lake and take any form of waves (even little ones)the unit shuts off, I dont have to touch the wiring but just hold the power button to turn it back on. what could be causing it to shut off? poor connections on the back maybe? I read something about pins and modifying them but did not want to do that if not needed, do I need to go away from that housing? Thanks.
Ok, call me lazy but did not want to scroll thru 41 pages to see if my question was asked already (which I think it was). I have a HB 898 SI on the console, it has the housing that holds all the wires together to plug them into the unit, when I go across the lake and take any form of waves (even little ones)the unit shuts off, I dont have to touch the wiring but just hold the power button to turn it back on. what could be causing it to shut off? poor connections on the back maybe? I read something about pins and modifying them but did not want to do that if not needed, do I need to go away from that housing? Thanks.
IF the connectors are solid against the cable collector that should hold them in. I would also look at the power supply. DId you solder connections? That's better than crimped on connectors. IF you used a glass bulb fuse those are prone to losing connection I recommend Blade type fuses.
Anyone know what would cause my down image to cut out after a certain depth? My 2D images and side scan are all fine......and this happens when I use DI in anything deeper than 30-40FOW. It just started happening and I haven't changed any settings.
This is on a HB 798ci HD SI/DI unit
Did you try restoring defualts?
Posted By: tworod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/04/12 03:31 PM
Thanks Doug, I will check the connections, no I did not solder but I will, and I also used the glass fuse. I will tackle those first.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/12 04:33 PM
I just bought a 97 20 ft stratus bass boat with a CMC lift jackplate. Should I mount my 997 transducer to the jackplate? What adapter do i need to buy?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/12 05:47 PM
Call Scap at Transducer Shield and Saver.
Describe your boat/jackplate and he will match what will work for you on the side of the jackplate with a TM-HDsi mount and L bracket.
If you have a holeshot plate, then you can use the TM-HDsi mount with a wedge for the installation in the center of the plate--the best setup.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/08/12 04:40 PM
Posted By: C Worthy
Re: Humminbird - 05/11/12 02:19 PM
bump to keep
I had the same problem with my 898. After talking with the warranty rep, I disconnected the unit power supply cord, and using a small pair of needle nose pliers, i tweeked the connector ends to make them smaller, and make a better connection between the cord and unit. My unit has not shut off while in rough water since making the adjustment to the power cord connectors.
Posted By: McMinn1967
Re: Humminbird - 05/16/12 12:00 PM
I have a 1197 and it keep losing the bottom. I will be in water I know is around 20 foot and it will start reading any where from 90 to 140 foot and showing fish everywhere. I canged the sensitivity and slowed down the scrole speed but still is not working.
Posted By: C Worthy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/17/12 02:17 AM
I have been plagued on my 898 with not being able to see the screen when there is any sun glare on it at all. Side Imaging is imposible to see. Well that was until today. I can not be more positive about the Nushield Dayveiw anti-glare screen protector and the Raptor Screen Shield. ( I think I am calling them the right thing) anyway. I put them both on and the difference to me is like night and day. The colors on the 898 just jump out bright now and I even tilted it a little upwards towards the light. The Raptor Shield/Hood fits perfectly and definately does a great job of keeping most of the side light off the screen. Anyway, I think I might like my 898 all over again now. AND NO I don't work for any of these companies. If you have been fustrated trying to see your humminbird in the sunlight, check out the Nuview Dayview and the Raptor Shield. You really will be glad you did.
CrappiePoppie
I have a 1197 and it keep losing the bottom. I will be in water I know is around 20 foot and it will start reading any where from 90 to 140 foot and showing fish everywhere. I canged the sensitivity and slowed down the scrole speed but still is not working.
Are you running Switchfire Clear Mode in Shallow Water? Also Surface Clutter needs to be at 5 or above.
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird - 05/18/12 10:30 PM
Doug, can I hook the HB Weathersense directly to my 898ci SI?
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/18/12 11:36 PM
I have been plagued on my 898 with not being able to see the screen when there is any sun glare on it at all. Side Imaging is imposible to see. Well that was until today. I can not be more positive about the Nushield Dayveiw anti-glare screen protector and the Raptor Screen Shield. ( I think I am calling them the right thing) anyway. I put them both on and the difference to me is like night and day. The colors on the 898 just jump out bright now and I even tilted it a little upwards towards the light. The Raptor Shield/Hood fits perfectly and definately does a great job of keeping most of the side light off the screen. Anyway, I think I might like my 898 all over again now. AND NO I don't work for any of these companies. If you have been fustrated trying to see your humminbird in the sunlight, check out the Nuview Dayview and the Raptor Shield. You really will be glad you did.
CrappiePoppie
Where did you get em?
Posted By: C Worthy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/20/12 01:47 AM
For The NuShield the best place to buy is the company. Best prices and pretty fast shipping. They say 20 days but I got mine in about a week.
NuShield Antiglare sheets. The RaptorCap I also bought from the company because they also have the best price.
RaptorCap Together, these give the absolute best screen on a humminbird.
Good Luck.
CP
Posted By: JACKTHE
Re: Humminbird - 05/20/12 08:08 PM
Doug, I have a model 788c sonar with external gps. I have updated the software to version 5.840. I bought a lake master 2 map card. I re set the defaults before downloading the new software. The unit has never displayed the card. When I go to gps diagnostics in the simulation mode the unit never confirms that the lake master card is in the card reader. I mounted the unit on my buddys system and it doesn't work there either. I should mention that once, after I did the software download. the unit froze up. It was lit up, but wouldn't respond to button commands. The screen wouldn't move, it would not shut off. I lifted the unit off of the mounting bracket and it shut off. When I put it back on the mount and turned it on , it was working again. The fact that the unit does not recognize that the lake master card is in the reader tells me that something is wrong with the unit, and I should return it to Humminbird for repair. The lake master card says it is compatible with hummingbird units. What is your advice ? Thanks.
Doug, can I hook the HB Weathersense directly to my 898ci SI?
IT has to hook to the COM Port so you need to use the AS-YC Cable that came with the unit hook GPS to the NMEA Side and Weathersense to the ACCY Side.
Doug, I have a model 788c sonar with external gps. I have updated the software to version 5.840. I bought a lake master 2 map card. I re set the defaults before downloading the new software. The unit has never displayed the card. When I go to gps diagnostics in the simulation mode the unit never confirms that the lake master card is in the card reader. I mounted the unit on my buddys system and it doesn't work there either. I should mention that once, after I did the software download. the unit froze up. It was lit up, but wouldn't respond to button commands. The screen wouldn't move, it would not shut off. I lifted the unit off of the mounting bracket and it shut off. When I put it back on the mount and turned it on , it was working again. The fact that the unit does not recognize that the lake master card is in the reader tells me that something is wrong with the unit, and I should return it to Humminbird for repair. The lake master card says it is compatible with hummingbird units. What is your advice ? Thanks.
Do you have a Blank SD Card? Can you try saving a Screen Capture to the SD Card this will test if the SD Card Reader is functioning properly. If not call HB Customer Service and they can can test and repair. You can also send the card with it and they can make sure both are operating properly.
Posted By: JACKTHE
Re: Humminbird - 05/21/12 08:12 PM
Yes Doug, I've tried putting a blank SD card in the reader, the machine doesn't acknowledge it either. Thanks for your response.
Call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they can get you back up and running.
Posted By: Bill Green
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/22/12 02:39 PM
I have a 798 when my screen gets cluttered up with tracks and i try to clear them they only change from solid line to dotted lines
Posted By: pinesjunkie
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/23/12 02:42 AM
any advice?? I have had 2 si tranducers go bad with in 2 months?
I have a 798 when my screen gets cluttered up with tracks and i try to clear them they only change from solid line to dotted lines
Are you deleting the tracks or saving them? Saving them defaults to dots. Clearing them removes them. Go to trracks and located saved tracks and remove the unneeded tracks.
any advice?? I have had 2 si tranducers go bad with in 2 months?
What has happend to them. Transducer failure is very rare but can happen need to explain more what happened so we can help.
Posted By: Bill Green
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/23/12 07:31 PM
I dont have any tracks saved, what do you mean when you say that saving them defaults to dots
Posted By: pinesjunkie
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/24/12 03:45 AM
Sorry forgot to say the si keeps going out,,the di and 2d work fine,,!st one just one side went out,,2nd one very dark screen and have to turn power up to max just to see a fuzzy screen but the di and 2d are fine.
Sorry forgot to say the si keeps going out,,the di and 2d work fine,,!st one just one side went out,,2nd one very dark screen and have to turn power up to max just to see a fuzzy screen but the di and 2d are fine.
DI is created from the same SI Elements. So it's not the transducer if DI Works.
I dont have any tracks saved, what do you mean when you say that saving them defaults to dots
If you save a track it will save and the saved track is a breadcrumb trail by default unless you change the settings for the saved trail. Go to the Tracks in the Nav Menu and looked at saved tracks and hide them or delete them and should get rid of the breadcrumb trails.
Posted By: Bill Green
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/24/12 02:42 PM
I dont have any tracks saved on this unit
Then you need to call HB Customer Service something isn't correct 800-633-1468
Posted By: C Worthy
Re: Humminbird tracks - 05/25/12 03:05 PM
Doug, I have already sent my unit to HB for warranty service but I would like to know what you think. I went out on Hubbard and as long as I was in shallow water (3-10 ft) the DI and SI looked good but as I started moving out to deeper water it gradually became dimmer and dimmer until DI was just a light wash out and SI was so dark that it could not be seen. This finally happened in about 30+ ft of water. What was strange to me is that sonar was still clear as all get out. Anyway I called HB and the lady said that it didn't sound right and to send it in. $30.44 to ship with $1000 insurance and she also said that HB usually has 5 day turn-around
so that sounds good. What do think could have happened to the unit. That was my first real on the water test with it. I ran sensitivity up and down and it didn't help.
Thanks
CrappiePoppie
Do you know someone that has a similar unit. You could cross test your head unit on their transducer and their headunit on your transducer that is the best way to test.
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/25/12 08:05 PM
Worked like a champ. Thanks Doug. Got the new Humminbird 788ci Combo today. Mounted up easily since everything matches from my 383c. Powered up with no problem. Did change the mount out just because it is new. Worked like a champ. Got to field test it tomorrow on the lake. (Note to self, get a new sd card to record the everything I fish.)
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/26/12 03:52 AM
I'm sure its covered in here somewhere, I'm too lazy to go back though all the posts, but what size SD card can I use with the 898c?
thanks
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/26/12 06:23 PM
OK, here's the deal. Got on the lake with the new 788. Pressed the mark button to mark my 1st waypoint without any issues. Went to mark the second one and the unit shut down. Tried it 4 different times. It shutdown all 4 times. What's up with that?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/26/12 10:28 PM
Try Restoring Defaults. That may resolve your concern
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/26/12 10:29 PM
Well Humminbird's Bill Carson went out again armed with Humminbird 360 Imaging and Snorkel Equipment and his GoPro Camera....Here you Go...
Humminbird 360 Imaging Finds the Bream Beds in Front of the Boat...
Zoom of the Beds...now look Close...
Time to Dive in the Water...What do we see???
Humminbird 360 Deployed below the boat to look forward...
And Now the Good Stuff...The Bream Beds and everything in the image from a humans eyes...
Here's the log and a Bed
Now the Bream and the Beds...
Humminbird 360 Imaging showing what's in front of you just like it is under the water...your forward looking under water eyes...no more need to fish in the past!
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/26/12 10:42 PM
wow, thats incredible
Posted By: Mudshark
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/27/12 05:28 AM
I am a step behind most of you but am catching up. I just I stalled my 597 DI combo today. I am stoked to be able to have this on my boat. My question is how to save an image to it if I have a navionics map card in? Or can I? Do I have to have an SD card with me and pull the navionics out to save an image?
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/27/12 11:48 AM
Try Restoring Defaults. That may resolve your concern
That worked. Thanks!
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/28/12 01:08 AM
I am a step behind most of you but am catching up. I just I stalled my 597 DI combo today. I am stoked to be able to have this on my boat. My question is how to save an image to it if I have a navionics map card in? Or can I? Do I have to have an SD card with me and pull the navionics out to save an image?
Yes, Since the 597 DI only has one card reader you need to remove the map card and insert a blank card to save screen captures.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/29/12 07:52 PM
LakeMaster Chart with Links to all Versions of LakeMaster Products Current and Non-Current Versions:
http://www.lakemap.com/lakemasterhumminbirdcardinformation.aspx
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/30/12 01:50 PM
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/30/12 05:21 PM
Humminbird Warranty Statement
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/31/12 01:35 AM
Question on where to start. HB 596 on the MK terrova is catching interference. It's vertical lines when the TM is operating, and the depth starts bouncing out some really deep numbers. TM off, everything is ok
Help please
Posted By: C Worthy
Got my HB 898 back today from HB Service - 05/31/12 01:58 AM
First I must say that Humminbird service is great. I sent my unit off last Thursday and got it back today. I sent it off because DI and SI worked great in shallow water but would begin to fade as I moved into deeper water and was completely unusable in 25+ feet. HB said that they checked the unit out and found nothing wrong with the unit. They shipped it back and included a brand new HD transducer stating that if the unit was good then they suspected the transducer was probably at fault. I will put the transducer on tomorrow and give it a shot this weekend looking for some fat sandies. Just thought someone else may have had this problem and this post might help. If I had not sent it in to HB, I would not been able to figure out which was bad and certainly would not have gotten a new transducer so quick.
CrappiePoppie (Gary)
Posted By: Mark03
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/31/12 04:14 AM
Probably out of my league here but I am going to guess that the trolling motor is analog instead of digital and that is causing the interference
Hope this helps
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/31/12 02:35 PM
Question on where to start. HB 596 on the MK terrova is catching interference. It's vertical lines when the TM is operating, and the depth starts bouncing out some really deep numbers. TM off, everything is ok
Help please
Try adjusting Noise Filter in the Sonar Menu. Also keep transducer cable away from the TM power Supply and do not run down the TM Cables. IF that doesn't help call HB Customer Service they can help also. You are getting RF Noise from the Digital Maximizer for the TM .
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/31/12 02:36 PM
Down Imaging Settings Tips and Tricks Video:
http://youtu.be/bs8dlOVHXJ8
Posted By: Aarna Reddy
Re: Humminbird - 06/01/12 07:49 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing information here...This information is really helpful for me...
Posted By: tworod
Re: Humminbird - 06/05/12 04:50 PM
Hey Doug, I have been watching your videos and adjustments for different speeds/scenarios and for some reason I cannot get my 898 adjusted right. Seems the sonar works ok, DI so so and SI is terrible, for example I was in a school of sandies the other night sitting still , they were blowing up all around me in 10ft of water, look at the SI and see nothing like all the snapshots I see posted here. I have been trying to adjust the chart speed to match my speed, sensitivity, enhanced sensitivity etc, even tried the other colors. I tried restoring defaults just in case I was out of wack as well. Any good default settings to try? Thanks.
You need movement for SI and DI to create images. Sitting still like you mentioned will just repeat the same data over and over.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 06/10/12 11:46 PM
How do i add my Navionics PC favorites to my 997 unit? I marked alot of places and want to add them to my existing waypoints on the unit.
You will need to import them to Humminbird PC then convert and export them to SD Card.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/11/12 05:40 PM
Gonzz, a similar question was asked on another web site. The response from Fugawi is:
"The free Navionics app for PC has various features but as far as I know it is not able to export data to any given chart plotter in the native format of that plotter. It does many things but a free app won't do everything.
So a good option for you is the "shrink wrapped" software on DVD called Navionics NavPlanner 2. It can export your waypoints and routes to Humminbird, Raymarine, Furuno, Lowrance, Garmin, Northstar, GeoNAV, and other brands of of GPS and chart plotter. Exporting to Humminbird 997/998 and importing as well is done through saving / reading on to memory cards that you swap in and out of the chart plotter. All you have to do initially is tell NavPlanner 2 that you use Humminbird by selecting it in the menu GPS > Settings > Model tab. Once the software knows you want it to "speak" Humminbird as the data format, then importing / exporting works nicely.
NavPlanner 2 also reads in Navionics SD and CF cards so you can view those on your computer monitor. And NavPlanner 2 does dozens of other chart planning functions.
You can read up on it at:
http://store.fugawi.com/collections/...cs-navplanner2 There's a sale price of $99 on NavPlanner 2 for a limited time. If you have any questions, contact support@fugawi.com."
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 06/12/12 01:41 AM
Thanks for the info.
Posted By: Drawout
Re: Humminbird - 06/13/12 02:53 PM
nice pile
Look at them fish in that brush pile!
Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: Drawout
Re: Humminbird - 06/13/12 06:26 PM
Thanks Doug, you think sensitivity is a little hot ?
It's a little hot. I drop it a notch or two should clear up the image.
Posted By: Jiging Ken
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/14/12 09:40 AM
TreeBass
I'm having the same problem with my 597 called H/B they sent a new power cord. that did not help then called Minn Kota no solid fix at this point. All Star in Dallas told me they can run a wire from the battery. down the shaft to ground the trolling motor. that wont about $250.00. got to be a cheaper way.to resolve this problem. I will say this for H/B & M/K thay or trying to help me. will be back on the phone this morning.as im starting to have withdrawals. for that thump.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/14/12 05:15 PM
Ranger, I moved the graph wires from the trolling motor battery to the cranking battery and it got worse! I'm about to call HB
Thanks for sharing
Posted By: Jiging Ken
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/14/12 05:52 PM
Thanks I have called H/B this morning no luck .
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/15/12 10:46 PM
Went out this evening to do some fine tuning to my 788ci. Turned the unit on and the unit wouldn't load. The loading just kept flashing. Tried to power it down and it wouldn't let me. Had to disconnect it from power to turn it off. Tried to power it up several times and got the same results.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/17/12 02:55 PM
Take all the maps cards or SD Cards out and test. IF not sounds like you need to call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/17/12 06:43 PM
I didn't have any SD or map cards in the unit when I powered it up. I installed it again Saturday morning and it worked fine until I got into the menu and selected the US2 option for the transducer. It then shutdown. Tried powering it up again and it flashed between the Loading and the Humminbird screen. Disconnected it from the power supply and let it set for awhile. Powered it up and it worked fine again. Glad I had my 383ci as a backup on the boat. Never have had an issue with that unit.
BTW! the Weathersense worked great on my 898. Thanks for the info you gave me previously.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/17/12 07:57 PM
Thanks I have called H/B this morning no luck .
They sent me a new power cable...its six feet long, and says its compatible with the 700, 900, and 1100 series
Guess I'll call em back in the morning
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/17/12 07:58 PM
I didn't have any SD or map cards in the unit when I powered it up. I installed it again Saturday morning and it worked fine until I got into the menu and selected the US2 option for the transducer. It then shutdown. Tried powering it up again and it flashed between the Loading and the Humminbird screen. Disconnected it from the power supply and let it set for awhile. Powered it up and it worked fine again. Glad I had my 383ci as a backup on the boat. Never have had an issue with that unit.
BTW! the Weathersense worked great on my 898. Thanks for the info you gave me previously.
so your good to go now?
Posted By: HBirdDeborahCrC
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/18/12 02:00 PM
Thanks I have called H/B this morning no luck .
They sent me a new power cable...its six feet long, and says its compatible with the 700, 900, and 1100 series
Guess I'll call em back in the morning
If you were sent the PC 11, power cord with a choke, it will also work on the 500 units. It was designed to assist with interference on the Side Imaging units.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/18/12 03:40 PM
Thanks I have called H/B this morning no luck .
They sent me a new power cable...its six feet long, and says its compatible with the 700, 900, and 1100 series
Guess I'll call em back in the morning
If you were sent the PC 11, power cord with a choke, it will also work on the 500 units. It was designed to assist with interference on the Side Imaging units.
THANK YOU!! I already tried to call this morning, but the line was busy. You just saved me some time.
Thanks
Posted By: Jiging Ken
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/18/12 10:41 PM
Interference update on my 597.
Last week I received my new power cord from Hummingbird. After installing it there was no change. I have sent it back to Hummingbird for them to check it out. When it comes back I will install it and if no improvement I will go to the ground wire. Found this video might be the simple way. Will update later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p8NJ0LvNpo&feature=plcp
I got one....
My 798ci is having issues when i crank the engine over? I am assuming this is a voltage issue and my battery may need to be replaced. The screen either goes completely white, or is has several colors of vertical lines. It basically freezes up until i take it off the base to disrupt power from it.
All power wires are soldered FYI.
Any advice?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/19/12 05:07 PM
Are they hooked direct to the battery? Sounds like low current to the unit is causing it to not operate properly.
they are wired to a heavy gauge wire in my console. I could try to run a new direct wire and see where I get. thanks
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/19/12 07:50 PM
Hook direct to the battery that is recommend with a 3 Amp Blade Style Fuse. IF your boat wiring is not heavy enough gauge it can restrict current flow.
having a problem with a 997c si ,I purchased a pre-owned unit from a member here and a new transducer from another installed the unit ,went out on the water and the si worked fine for about 3 min then the right side went black ,I don't have anything in the way of the transducer , all settings are correct , when I put it in simulation mode both left and right work fine ,,,,,so is the problem the transducer?
IT could be either in the transducer or headunit. Simulator is just computer program running in the unit with sonar data.
I would recommend cross testing on another SI Transducer. ANd test their headunit on your transducer. This will tell which is the source of the concern.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/21/12 02:18 AM
Just want to make sure that Lakemaster will work in my 798ci si combo? I see on the list 798c si and 798ci si hd combo.
Yes it will work with any of the 798c, 798ci and 798ci HD models which is all they have built.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/12 07:58 AM
Yes, in Simulator you can use all the settings and functions that are used in normal operating mode except you won't see a temp readout and you cannot choose which location to show the temp. unless you have the transducer connected or a aux temp sensor connected.
I use my units in my den a lot for software updates, waypoint management, practicing with settings, and as a reference for answering questions like this.
So I do not need the transducer hooked up and I can run my unit in simulator mode and still be able to restore default settings and install new software into the unit? All I need is to be able to power it on,,, correct?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/12 11:42 AM
Yes, in Simulator you can use all the settings and functions that are used in normal operating mode except you won't see a temp readout and you cannot choose which location to show the temp. unless you have the transducer connected or a aux temp sensor connected.
I use my units in my den a lot for software updates, waypoint management, practicing with settings, and as a reference for answering questions like this.
So I do not need the transducer hooked up and I can run my unit in simulator mode and still be able to restore default settings and install new software into the unit? All I need is to be able to power it on,,, correct?
Yes, that's it.
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/12 02:51 PM
I am wanting to glue the transducer into the hull in the bilge of my 185 SeaRay, but I cannot find a flat/level surface, only slightly angled surface. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/12 11:31 PM
IF your SeaRay hull is thin and single layered, there is a dual frequency 2D transducer shoot-thru with angled face that is made for hull shapes like yours.
XAP 9 20
You have to verify the angles involved to see if they match.
On a Humminbird 997 does it make a difference which slot the map chip goes in ?
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/12 05:32 PM
My new 597ci hd is coming on by itself and when I shut it down, it doesn't shut down all the way. The buttons stay lit and the screen is faintly visible(?). This is a brand new unit. It had been running fine when I tested it on the boat and in the house (I do have a 3amp fuse at both locations). Yesterday I did down load and install the new update and it took it fine. Then I tried to put my SD card in with waypoints but they never showed and I could not find them on the unit (They show up on my 798). Shortly afterwards is when the trouble started. HELP!!!
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/12 06:33 PM
I have my 597 wired to the fused power block under the dash and can be used with the ignition key in the off position. However, if the 597 is on when I start the boat motor, the 597 goes off and I have to restart it. Am I doing something wrong?
You should probably shut the unit down before you crank the motor.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/12 09:05 PM
Your issue is low voltage for the unit when starting the gas motor.
You could have one or several issues.
1. Battery too weak to handle the multiple loads (too small, going bad, or not completely charged).
2. Corroded or battery terminals not tight
3. Boat wiring harness has too much resistance to supply the correct voltage to the unit when another load is on the battery.
What you are experiencing is why it is recommended that the unit be wired directly to the battery. At least you would know if it was the battery.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/12 09:10 PM
No, Steve it doesn't make any difference.
I use the left card slot the map cards and I do that because I can get a better grip on the card in the right slot which is were I have my card for screen shots/recordings--I remove that one often.
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/12 11:46 PM
What are the pro's and con's of using silicone calk vs epoxy to glue transducer into bilge of boat. Will silicone work?
Wayne, thanks for the response. Reason for the question is my boat set for 5 weeks. Prior to that I had the cards in and out. When I got on the water the other day the map wouldn't come up. The screen said it was loading charts. I waited a fairly long time and the map never did come up. I powered the unit down and back on but it didn't change anything. Next I powered it down and switched slots for the map chip and the recording chip and it began to display the map properly when I powered it back up. Never had this issue before so I was wondering if the slot made any difference. I didn't think it did but I have no explanation for the issue.
What are the pro's and con's of using silicone calk vs epoxy to glue transducer into bilge of boat. Will silicone work?
DO NOT USE SILICONE! IT will not work and absorbs sonar signal! use only slow cure Epoxy. I recommend using the epxoy Humminbird supplies with their transducers. It's super slow cure and reduces chances of capturing air bubbles in the epxoy.
You can exhange transducers with Humminbird if the transducer in new and never been used or installed. Call Customer Service to get RA.
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/12 09:51 PM
Thanks, Doug. Someone else on TFF tried to convince me that silicone was the way to go, but I used the fast cure epoxy that Lowrance sells and it worked great. I am all set now. Now I just need to learn how to use it and the added maps.
Posted By: JimBo Hops
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/29/12 08:26 PM
Would anyone be up for help reading a Humminbird PiranhaMax 170? It's a friend of mine's, and we are trying to locate structure for primarily going after crappie and also catfishing. We are both very new to electronics and are just trying to get on the right track. It's mounted at the back, on the lower right side if you're facing the motor.
Posted By: JimBo Hops
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/30/12 02:57 AM
Just how to read the screen really. How to determine what would be some brush or structure under the water, and also how to determine where what's on the screen is in the water. So if we find a brush pile, where we need to cast or drop the bait. I probably sound like a dummy but we are both new to the electronics and it seems like we are doing it wrong as it is.
Posted By: Goosetree
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/01/12 02:54 AM
I bought a 2000 Cobra Bass Boat that came with a HB 898SI unit. I'm having a hard time with the depth function. It shows 3 feet most of the time even when I know I'm in 15 to 20 feet water. This happens even at 1 to 2 MPH. It will jump back and forth but only read correctly for a few seconds then jumps back to 3 feet. The transducer is mounted on the jack plate with a special mount. Any ideas?
Does it have a shoot thru transducer and Y cable? Many installed this way to get on plane speed readings and sounds like the 2D transducer is not getting good readings thru the hull. I would check to see if you have a Y cable plugged into the transducer port on the back of the unit.
Posted By: Goosetree
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/01/12 03:36 AM
Doug,
All it has hooked to the back of the unit is a single plug that covers the 4 ports on the right side of the unit. Is that a Y Cable??? There is an old transducer laying in the battery compartment but I assumed it wasn't connected. It's not glassed in...it's just laying on it's side in the bottom of the hull.
I have a 788CI and tried to download my waypoints, etc yesterday. I have done this before with no problem. But, when I went to Naviagation, there was no option to Export Nav Data. Any thoughts on what could be the cause?
Doug,
All it has hooked to the back of the unit is a single plug that covers the 4 ports on the right side of the unit. Is that a Y Cable??? There is an old transducer laying in the battery compartment but I assumed it wasn't connected. It's not glassed in...it's just laying on it's side in the bottom of the hull.
Look at the Cable Collector that holds all the individual Cables. Look at the Transducer Port do you have one cable or two coming from that port?
Here is 800/900 Series Cable Collector and Port Locations:
Since i run the 1100 Series here is the Cable COllector for it
The back of the Cable collector may have wiring like this. One Wire to Power, Comm Port could have Y Cable installed for GPS and Accessory like InterLink, Weathersense Etc and the Transducer Port has one wire transducer is connected direct. IF using AS SI DB Y Cable will have 2 Wires
800/900 will have same set-up just all in a line not in square cable collector
Here is a closer look at AS SI DB Y Cable removed from Cable Collector
I have a 788CI and tried to download my waypoints, etc yesterday. I have done this before with no problem. But, when I went to Naviagation, there was no option to Export Nav Data. Any thoughts on what could be the cause?
If you updated software with the new Waypoint Management Menu you will have to use that feature to select all and export.
Posted By: JimBo Hops
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/01/12 07:02 PM
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I will be reading up.
Posted By: Goosetree
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/01/12 07:03 PM
Doug,
It doesn't have a Y cable. For some reason it worked today all but for a few minutes then it was fine again. Could I have a loose connection? The SI and DI works fine even when the depth isn't reading.
I'm planning on running a Y cable with a thru hull transducer. If I put the cable on do I have move back and forth between transducers or does it always use the thru hull for depth? Do you have instructions on what kind of epoxy to use and how to install? I want to make sure it will read on plane at 70MPH.
How to Install Shoot-Thru (Epoxy In Hull) Transducer:
First: It is recommended to test the location prior to installation. Hull construction can have effects on getting good readings and it's best to find the best location. Air Pockets, Areas that Glass Matts Overlap, Delamination of Hull can effect the sonar performance. The best wasy is to disable automatic bilge pump temporarily and add a couple inches of water to the hull. Next build a small sand bag using a Ziploc bag. Place transducer in hull and using sand bag hold it down to find the best location for installation. Normally the closer to the rear of the boat and center of the boat the higher speed the sonar will stay locked on. Make sure the location is away from strakes underneath as these will cause aerated or turbulated water underneath and disrupt the clean water flow accross the bottom of the hull which can effect sonar readings.
Second: Mark the location of the best readings and drain the water and allow hull to dry. Hull must be dry for epoxy to adhere and set-up.
Third: I like to sand or smooth out area of hull the transducer is mounted so it's flat and smooth surface.
Fourth: Using Plumber's Putty or Play Do build a small dam around the Area the transducer will installed about an 1" wider than transducer to keep epoxy from flowing during installation.
Fifth: Use Slow Cure Epoxy - I recommend the epoxy that comes with the transducer direct from Humminbird. Slow Cure Epoxy stays cooler than fast cure. DO NOT use silicone or any other material than epoxy. Silicone can absorb sonar waves and creates alot of issues. Mix thoroughly until consist color. Avoid whipping while mixing to reduce creating air bubbles in the epoxy. The less air bubbles the better the final results and improved sonar readings.
Sixth: I like to apply a thin layer of epoxy on the transducer, I also like to apply a thin layer pressed into the bottom of the dam to squeeze out any potential air bubbles between epoxy and hull. Fill the rest of the dam with remaining epoxy.
Seventh: Installation of transducer. As you push transducer into the epoxy start 90° from foward and push and slowly turn the quarter turn. This will helps squeeze out air bubbles under the transducer.
Eighth: Using Sandbag from step one place on top of transducer to hold it in place. And allow the epoxy to cure for a minimum of 24 hours.
Ninth: Remove Sandbag and Plumbers Putty. Your Transducer is now installed and ready to use.
Tenth: Test Transducer in the Water to make sure you have good sonar readings. If not you may have air the epoxy and may need to repeat procedure to get good sonar readings.
I sent the unit to HB in March and they exchanged it. I assume they loaded the most current software, but I didn't see a Waypoint Management Menu. Do you know if this new menu is since March? I guess I can see if there are any updates and install those.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/02/12 12:21 AM
I sent the unit to HB in March and they exchanged it. I assume they loaded the most current software, but I didn't see a Waypoint Management Menu. Do you know if this new menu is since March? I guess I can see if there are any updates and install those.
Some units got the new waypoint management in October. My 798ci SI did with version 5.840. Some models got it a little later, some just recently. Check your Humminbird account for the present version and check your unit for the version it has now. Usually a trip to Humminbird includes a software update.
Since there are three 788ci units and a 788c, each has different software.
788c
788ci
788ci HD
788ci HD DI
I downloaded an update - from 5.840 to 6.3, will see if that solves the problem.
Thanks for the feedback.
Posted By: lockjaw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/02/12 02:04 PM
I recently purched a 788 CI and had it mounted in the front console of my ranger . The transducer is mounted on the trolling motor. While fishing this weekend the unit would not pick up the bottom in 2D but would pick it up in DI. I also noticed that every time i used the TM. the units screen would almost completely black out from noise. I tried returning the the unit to factory default settings but it did not resolve my issues. I am running a Motor Guide tour edition 36 volt 101.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/02/12 03:25 PM
You have to "fix" your motor so it won't "interfere" with your sonar unit.
Call Humminbird customer service and explain your installation including how the unit is powered.
There may be a simple fix or it may take several measures to solve it (if at all). RF interference is random in occurrance, the frequency it affects, and severity.
i have a humminbird 898c and on on the down imaging screen it shows absolutely nothing maybe a few dots at the most. i can go over a brush pile and on the sonar it will show a huge wad of stuff on bottom and on down imaging it shows nothing. also on the side imaging the right side of screen is always a little darker colored than the left side. anybody know what wrong?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/06/12 12:13 AM
i have a humminbird 898c and on on the down imaging screen it shows absolutely nothing maybe a few dots at the most. i can go over a brush pile and on the sonar it will show a huge wad of stuff on bottom and on down imaging it shows nothing. also on the side imaging the right side of screen is always a little darker colored than the left side. anybody know what wrong?
Post a picture of your transducer installation for critique and screen shots of those symptoms.
i dont know how to put pics on here. the transducer is supposed to be mounted properly. it was installed by a guy that does that kinda work for a living.
i dont know how to put pics on here. the transducer is supposed to be mounted properly. it was installed by a guy that does that kinda work for a living.
i have a humminbird 898c and on on the down imaging screen it shows absolutely nothing maybe a few dots at the most. i can go over a brush pile and on the sonar it will show a huge wad of stuff on bottom and on down imaging it shows nothing. also on the side imaging the right side of screen is always a little darker colored than the left side. anybody know what wrong?
Sounds like transducer is tilted to the right or the boat listes to the right. But hard to help without seeing what you are seeing. If you can share some images it will help us help you.
ok itll be a while before i can get any pictures
Posted By: Rick61
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/12 07:30 PM
First time using this 998c, can someone help me out on these snapshots?? What settings do I need to adjust??
and what am I looking at, Grass, Rocks??
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/12 08:17 PM
Rick61
Image one is a brush pile in the center and schools of minnows at the top.
Image two is a creek channel or road bed depression.
Image three is possible weeds on the left side, and aerated water by done by a prop with some minnow schools.
All images have scattered larger fish.
Lower the Sensitivity setting slightly.
All three images, on the center line show you have the SI transducer on the right side of a jackplate and are getting echoes from the inside of left side of the jackplate. Plus aerated water echoes on both sides off the hull due to the height above the hull bottom and boat speed.
I would also slow chart speed just a little to get more detail in the images...they looked stretched and that's a sign of too fast scroll speed.
Posted By: Rick61
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/12 09:43 PM
Had speed on 4 setting and sensitivity on 13, by these pictures, should I relocate the transducer??
Posted By: GasPasser
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/12 09:50 PM
Doug,
I assume you have your hands on HB 360 and have had first hand experience with it. Could you comment on your experiences with it? I have the 1197 and very happy with it. I am planning on getting the 1198 if you think it's worth the upgrade.
Also, can I run a wire (not the video out) from the 1198 to the 1197 and use it as another screen that can view other pages (like watching the 360 image on the 1198 and down image/gps on the 1197)? Thanks.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/08/12 12:25 AM
I just wanted to share this shot I took today. The unit is my new HB597 HD with a US2 on my Terrova. Max mode was off and I managed to turn the sensitivity down to 5 and still saw the 1/8 oz crappie jig.
Posted By: horton5303
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/08/12 01:15 AM
Where is your jig? Im Still learning this stuff. Is it the up and down lines on the Graph?
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/08/12 02:47 AM
Where is your jig? Im Still learning this stuff. Is it the up and down lines on the Graph?
Yes it is the solid line going up and down from me jigging it. I was over exaggerating the jigging motion but I was just testing it out to see how well it would show up. I was very pleased with it because I was not to sure how sensitive or how well the US2 worked. In fact, you can see where I had turned the sensitivity down to 5 and it still showed. It is where the Temp. reading is on the pic. The line was fainter but still very visible.
Im wanting to mount a 858c on bow and a 998c si on console an link together with a Ethernet cable. Do I have to use a gps puck on both units or will one puck work for both units? Thks, George
Doug,
I assume you have your hands on HB 360 and have had first hand experience with it. Could you comment on your experiences with it? I have the 1197 and very happy with it. I am planning on getting the 1198 if you think it's worth the upgrade.
Also, can I run a wire (not the video out) from the 1198 to the 1197 and use it as another screen that can view other pages (like watching the 360 image on the 1198 and down image/gps on the 1197)? Thanks.
I have not had the chance to test the 360 Imaging Yet...but I hear soon I'll get to play with one. For your question Not sure on the 1197c since it is a different Ethernet Technology than the current Ethernet Products. I would contact HB Customer Service for that question 800-633-1468
Im wanting to mount a 858c on bow and a 998c si on console an link together with a Ethernet cable. Do I have to use a gps puck on both units or will one puck work for both units? Thks, George
You can use one but I will ask why? I personally prefer GPS Receiver Mounted close proximity to the Transducer to reduce adding any additional offset and making it easier to get to the waypoints when returning with either location.
Posted By: jepik
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/09/12 04:55 PM
DOUG...electrolysis...596 hd di.. transd. on trolling motor..run the wires back to charging battery oppsite side of the boat from tm wires..3amp fuse + post.. evinrude 24 volt tm..tried it for first time today,,everything work good.. got home notice a acidic corrison on head of tm..and about 12 in. up the tm shaft..even some residue on the skag of the outboard motor..disconnected the battery..clean everything up...what caused it?..what to do to stop it..any help appric. ..thanks
Never heard that Fishing Electronics could have any effect with electrolysis.
Posted By: DaveB
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 07/10/12 05:49 PM
OK, here's the deal. Got on the lake with the new 788. Pressed the mark button to mark my 1st waypoint without any issues. Went to mark the second one and the unit shut down. Tried it 4 different times. It shutdown all 4 times. What's up with that?
Happened again, but this time when I turned the unit on it would flash and beep between the LOADING and Humminbird screen.
Posted By: stros00
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/10/12 09:03 PM
I shouldve posted my request here...sorry guys!!
New to the board and need some HELP!!! I have a Humminbird 597 CI HD but am not sure how/what i am seeing. I have seen pictures of other finders where there are fish arches but i dont seem to see that on mine.
Can someone provide me the settings to the Humminbird finders?
I have turned fish icons off, chart speed to 4, sensitivity at 14, max mode, 83/200khz combo..
PLEASE HELP!!
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/11/12 02:28 AM
Found this a few weekends ago...
Love the boat and the Brush Piles!
Posted By: Donebrokeme
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/11/12 05:33 PM
858C Question
Just bought a Hummingbird 858C
The manual says take the NMEA pigtail and tape it to the coax lead for the GPS receiver unless needed???
My unit has the green black and white.
Am I understanding that the one I have is for connection to (my Marine Radio or other NMEA Device) that has its own power source?
Posted By: Donebrokeme
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/11/12 05:40 PM
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&biw=1024&bih=569&sclient=psy-ab&q=humminbird+597ci+hd+manual&oq=597+CI+HD+manual&gs_l=hp.1.1.0i30j0i5i10.228.4012.1.6441.10.9.1.0.0.0.1951.5884.1j1j0j1j0j1j1j0j2.7.0.ciatsh..0.0...1.hZx_uutSmMY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8a8a4a38cb99507e
Copy and paste into your browse and print out the PDF manual for your depthfinder!
Posted By: Grady Glass
Humminbird 788 ci HD Di - 07/12/12 03:40 AM
I just bought this unit(788ci HD Di) and the second time out, when I would turn the boat motor off the unit would lock-up are start flickering when I re-started the boat motor. I would have to take the unit off of the mount to get it to work again..Any ideas?
I just bought this unit(788ci HD Di) and the second time out, when I would turn the boat motor off the unit would lock-up are start flickering when I re-started the boat motor. I would have to take the unit off of the mount to get it to work again..Any ideas?
Sounds like low current to the unit. I would makes sure power supply is to the battery and if you extend use 14-16 Gauge Wire with soldered connections and blade style fuse.
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Posted By: DLALLDER
Re: Humminbird - 07/14/12 01:51 PM
I am thinking about jumping into the new world of depth finders. I have been a Lowrance man for many years but I do have an open mind about the different brands. My questions is " How is HB's customer service? How long will HB support my units?". I am not interested in spending $2000-3000 only to find out that 3,4,5 years or so down the road there is no support for the units (excuse-- no parts available). Anyone willing to answer?
Posted By: Junk
Re: Humminbird - 07/14/12 05:28 PM
i have a 858 up front and a 1197 at console. They are interlinked....or at least they were at one point. I cant get the 858 to get GPS anymore and also its not showing that the interlink is connected. I checked the plugs on the interlink and they seem fine. Any idea where to start looking for the problem????? I just updated the software to see if that helped any, but nothing. Advice please!!
Posted By: Procowboy
Re: Humminbird - 07/14/12 05:43 PM
I have a HB 798 HD SI unit. When i switch to the side imaging mode, I am only getting the left side picture. I have had the head unit checked and it showed ti be fine. Mark at BPS at Grapevine said to switch from left to right on the screen and listen for clicking sounds from transducer. I hear clicks from both sides when I switch from left to right. Anyone else have this problem? My unit is not even a year old. This just started and my transducer hasnt moved. Help!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/14/12 06:43 PM
I am thinking about jumping into the new world of depth finders. I have been a Lowrance man for many years but I do have an open mind about the different brands. My questions is " How is HB's customer service? How long will HB support my units?". I am not interested in spending $2000-3000 only to find out that 3,4,5 years or so down the road there is no support for the units (excuse-- no parts available). Anyone willing to answer?
Humminbird will support their units as long as the circuitry and memory can handle the software updates and new features being added.
The first SI unit was marketed in 2004, in January 2010 when Down Imaging was introduced, those units got software to add Down Imaging also. As far as hardware fixes are concerned they will repair a unit as long as compatable parts are available.
They actually repair the units at the place of mfg and return your unit to you.
You can figure out what other companies do.
The electronics industry is always improving their products, at some point the old stuff will not be serviceable no matter what the product or brand is.
The Best Video I've seen done on Humminbird 360 Imaging...goes in deep on details of the system and opertion.
http://youtu.be/an5XH7YNzvg
Posted By: KayakMichael
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 07/23/12 01:18 PM
I am about to pull the plug on a new Sonar/DI unit with chart plotter. Unit is an 858c DI. Do you guys have a recommendation on a decent Navionics or lake master chip for fishing the Texas coast (within 30 miles offshore) and north Texas lakes?
I am thinking about jumping into the new world of depth finders. I have been a Lowrance man for many years but I do have an open mind about the different brands. My questions is " How is HB's customer service? How long will HB support my units?". I am not interested in spending $2000-3000 only to find out that 3,4,5 years or so down the road there is no support for the units (excuse-- no parts available). Anyone willing to answer?
Humminbird is still support the Units when I made the Switch to Humminbird in 2004. The first Side Imaging Models 981c and 987c are still receiving Software Feature Updates plu Humminbird repairs their units in-house in Eufuala Alabama same place the units are manufactured. So Service, Support and Manufacturing in the same place. As far as service from those that I have heard having to use them the unit is normally in shipping longer than it takes to repair.
i have a 858 up front and a 1197 at console. They are interlinked....or at least they were at one point. I cant get the 858 to get GPS anymore and also its not showing that the interlink is connected. I checked the plugs on the interlink and they seem fine. Any idea where to start looking for the problem????? I just updated the software to see if that helped any, but nothing. Advice please!!
Have you reset the INterLInk
I am about to pull the plug on a new Sonar/DI unit with chart plotter. Unit is an 858c DI. Do you guys have a recommendation on a decent Navionics or lake master chip for fishing the Texas coast (within 30 miles offshore) and north Texas lakes?
I love Lake Master and they have Coverage Offshore included on the Texas/Oklahoma Chart
http://www.lakemap.com/gulfcoverage.aspxLove the Exclusive features and the details. Bar none best in the industry.
I am about to pull the plug on a new Sonar/DI unit with chart plotter. Unit is an 858c DI. Do you guys have a recommendation on a decent Navionics or lake master chip for fishing the Texas coast (within 30 miles offshore) and north Texas lakes?
I love Lake Master and they have Coverage Offshore included on the Texas/Oklahoma Chart
http://www.lakemap.com/gulfcoverage.aspxLove the Exclusive features and the details. Bar none best in the industry.
Ordered one this morning. Thinking that I am going to enjoy those exclusive features as well, since they will be very helpful in the waters I fish where there are sudden shallows that I can highlight. Have to say, watching your video on their website really helped to persuade my decision. Thanks for the product review and for the helpful information.
Posted By: FlippinMad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/24/12 05:23 PM
I have a 500 series HDDI and I cannot seem to get the detail I expected from the DI. When I go over a brush pile, I am seeing more of a blob than a detailed image of the brush(image that shows individual limbs etc). Can anyone recommend some settings for me to start with(sensitivity, noise filter, surface clutter) and i can try to fine tune from there. Is it possible that I have the sensitivity too high?? Usually run it at 18 and have my surface clutter and noise at a minimum.
I watched some of Dougs video's and wrote down a few notes. One problem is that I believe I have always had my chart speed too fast. I will be slowing it down to match my speed when idling.
Something else mentioned that it was best to set DI on 800khz for shallow water and 455khz for deep water. My question is, what is considered "deep"? I fish freshwater lakes exclusively and rarely fish deeper than 35'-40'.
On the DI Only Models the coverage area is not adjustable but you can change frequency to change coverage area. 455kHz or 800kHz. 455 KHz will be the widest. Sensitivity sounds way to high. Adjust it down to get on the data you need. Cranked up to 18 would over power the readings and make a blob. I'd run more in the 8-12 Range...you can stop the screen and adjust this to get the best level to see more details. Also match scroll speed to boat speed to begin with.
Posted By: FlippinMad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/25/12 02:41 PM
Thanks Doug.
Should I primarily be using one over the other for more detail? Or does that depend on depth. I rarely fish more than 30'-35'.
Also, once I get my graph set up the way I like it, will those settings also apply to when I'm running in split screen mode, or will I have to play with the settings in split screen as well.
Example: If I have my 2D set up on 12 sensitivity and my DI on 9 sensitivity,, while on split screen, will those settings apply? Or on split screen, is the sensitivity the same for both?
Posted By: FlippinMad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/25/12 03:07 PM
Can someone explain to me what Surface Clutter Settings and Noise Filter Settings are and how they are used?
Thanks Doug.
Should I primarily be using one over the other for more detail? Or does that depend on depth. I rarely fish more than 30'-35'.
Also, once I get my graph set up the way I like it, will those settings also apply to when I'm running in split screen mode, or will I have to play with the settings in split screen as well.
Example: If I have my 2D set up on 12 sensitivity and my DI on 9 sensitivity,, while on split screen, will those settings apply? Or on split screen, is the sensitivity the same for both?
Sensitivity is set independent for each sonar. 455 khz is best for most all water depths. Sounds like 2D Sensitivity is too high I never run above 11 normally in the 8 to 10 range. DI in the 10 to 12 range.
Can someone explain to me what Surface Clutter Settings and Noise Filter Settings are and how they are used?
Surface Clutter adjusts the surface "clutter" like alagae, bacteria, planfton, air bubbles in the upper layer of the waters surface. Adjusting surface clutter can effect the sonar performance. I recommend running at least 5 to prevent any negative effects on sonar performance. Yo ucan try going lower but if you see negative effects to the sonar readings or locking into the bottom adjust it back up.
Noise Filter is used to reduce cross talk between units or to filter RF/Electrical Noise. I would use the lowest possible setting you can get by with to reduce noise in the sonar readings.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/26/12 01:59 PM
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...tin#Post7803961
From the desk of....
Mark Gibson
Humminbird
Marketing Director
Technical BulletinThis is a very important Technical Bulletin. The key point of this bulletin is to get consumers to back up their Navigational data.
Again this is a very important message that we need to get out to all of our users. Having them find out about this after they have lost all of their waypoints without having backed up their data creates a lot of bad will.
Summary to the message: “Tell Everyone To Back Up Their Data”.
Units Effected: All GPS Combo Units with Card SlotsWe have seen issues where consumers obtain Navigation Data (Waypoints,Tracks and/or Routes) from various sources such as Lowrance or Garmin waypoints, GPS Babel, Google Earth, unknown origin from friends etc, and then load this data onto a SD card and download this data directly into their Humminbird unit.
Each GPS company has a unique format that is required for their data in order for it to work properly in their units. This is true with Humminbird as well. Humminbird uses .gpx file extensions. Loading unknown sources of navigation data into your Humminbird unit, without first properly converting
it through HumminirdPC to configure it into the correct format (.gpx), can lead to corrupt data which can cause the unit to lock up or malfunction. These types of malfunctions can make it impossible to retrieve waypoints from the unit; therefore, when this happens all existing navigation data on
the unit could be lost.
With this in mind the following guidelines should be followed:1. Always maintain a backup copy of your navigational data such as waypoints, routes and tracks. This is very simple to do. You just need to insert a blank SD card into the unit, go under the Navigation tab and select Waypoints, Routes and Tracks and export a copy of your waypoints to the blank card. Navigational data can also be backed up by connecting your Humminbird unit to Humminbird PC. If you have any questions as to how to do this or any other questions about this bulletin you can also check out the FAQ section of our
website or contact our Consumer Service department
2. Never load any navigational data into your Humminbird product unless you have converted the data by running it through the Humminbird PC program. The Humminbird PC program is
available free of charge whenever you register your Humminbird
fishfinder. If you follow this step you should never encounter any problems as living by guideline #1 is always a good practice whether with your Humminbird unit or with your personal computer.
The latest versions of software provide you with a prompt, when you insert a SD card into the unit, asking if you want to download the navigation data from the SD card onto this unit. You can use this prompt as a reminder that you should only download data onto your Humminbird unit after you have run the data through the Humminbird PC program to ensure that it has been formatted properly.
3. Make sure you have a stable power source when downloading
navigational data into your Humminbird unit. If power is lost during the download process it can also result in corrupted data or unit failure. The only remedy for this is to return to our facility for service. This is not covered by warranty.
4. If you have already installed waypoints from an outside source and it has caused your unit to lock up there is a process you can follow to get your unit operating properly again. Unfortunately, if you haven’t backed up your waypoints outside of the unit you may not be able to recover your waypoints. Please contact our consumer services group or check out the FAQ’s on our website.
Thanks
Mark Gibson
Humminbird
Marketing Director
Posted By: crash519
Re: Humminbird - 07/28/12 01:53 AM
I'm sitting here on the water planning on doing some night fishing but I'm running blind. I turned on my 798ci and I'm getting nothing but a white screen. Any ideas? It's there a way to do a hard reset or am I screwed? TIA
Go to set-up menu and REstore Defaults is the only reset.
Posted By: crash519
Re: Humminbird - 07/28/12 03:03 AM
I can't see anything but white when I turn it on. There is nothing to look at. Me thinks the LCD is cooked. It worked perfect last time out.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird - 07/28/12 04:18 PM
How do I take pics with the 898 without creating a waypoint? Or can this even be done?
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 07/29/12 01:04 AM
How do I take pics with the 898 without creating a waypoint? Or can this even be done?
+1
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/29/12 01:36 AM
How do I take pics with the 898 without creating a waypoint? Or can this even be done?
No, you cannot. The Mark button is the "camera shutter button"
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird - 07/29/12 01:49 AM
dangit, figured as much, thanks Wayne
Posted By: Sideiron
Re: Humminbird - 08/08/12 02:15 AM
I have a 788ci hd di combo. The thing that I can't stand about it is the boat symbol on the gps view is just a red outline. Its almost impossible to see where you are on the lake map. Is there any way to change this to a solid black triangle so I can see it?
The Boat ICON is fixed. You can turn on/off the direction indicator line if that would help.
Posted By: Sideiron
Re: Humminbird - 08/08/12 07:04 PM
Thanks, Doug
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird - 08/14/12 09:48 PM
how much better is the HD versus the older NON HD unit?
also is the 597 ci HD capable of supporting the lake master cards and all of there functions. like the highlighted contour function?
HD is a designation for the Industries Highest Pixel Count Screens in 5" Versison 640 x 640 Pixels. Plus on the 700 Series it signifies the unit is Ethernet Compatible.
And yes the 597ci HD is LakeMaster Compatible. It's on the list:
http://www.lakemap.com/documents/HB_compatibilityPage_2012.pdfAnd has the same features for customizing the maps.
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird - 08/15/12 01:31 AM
alright thanks Doug
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird - 08/18/12 06:18 AM
Hey Doug I just bought a 788ci hd di and a 778c hd.
I noticed that for the 2d sonar the 788 has angles of 16* and 25*
and for the 778 degrees of 20* and 60*
why are these different?
also noticed on the si units they have the 20/60 dual.
why not 20/60 on di only units?
2D units feature Dual Beam Plus Sonar 200kHz @ 20° and 83kHz 2 60°
DI Models do not have 83kHz Transmitter. So 2D sonar 200kHz @ 20° and 455 kHz @ 16° on the DI Models.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird - 08/20/12 07:54 PM
Doug, I just installed a new 1198 and want to convert my HDS waypoints to it. I downloaded them to an SD card but, the HB manual refers to Humminbird PC as a software program I need to use. I contacted support via phone and was told I could download it from the website. I have since searched the website trying to locate it without luck.
I had to wait on the phone forever to talk to someone and don't want to have to do that again. So, I sent an email for support help, sent it and got an auto response saying it will take 3 to 5 business days for a reply! Is this the great service I'm to expect from HB in the future?
IS the software an option that I have to purchase to convert my old waypoints to the new 1198?
Just curious what I've gotten myself into. And, my primary reason to purchase HB was their reputation for serice.
When you register your unit and set up an account under your account will be several software downloads one being the most current unit software and another is Humminbird PC program them a couple conversion programs if you use 3rd Party software to view sonar recordings. This video should show the steps to set up account and download software including Humminbird PC:
http://youtu.be/-TZtvcpzQRM
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird - 08/20/12 09:57 PM
Doug, I set up an account and registered my units but,didn't see or didn't know I could download HumminbirdPC...and now I can't find it.
I did download my waypoints from the HDS unit and was able to use GPX format to do it. (built into Lowrance) I went out a while ago and loaded the SD chip into my 1198 but, it did not show me the waypoints and in fact didn't see the Navionics chip for some reason. Is there something I need to change to see the two SC chips?
You have to have the waypoints in a Matrix folder so the unit see it. Go to your account and look under your registered units and the HB PC Program will be there. When you export it will create the folder and insert the waypoints. I would not recommend installing on your Navionics or any map card, You should use a blank SD Card.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird - 08/21/12 10:35 AM
Thanks Doug, I found it, just looking in the wrong place. And you are also correct, never mix programs on an SD chip.
Are you also expert in diagnoising interference problems?
HB Customer Service is the best to work with RF Noise but what do you need?
Posted By: TxAdam
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/12 04:46 PM
Just spent my first few hours on the water with a new 597. This is my first DI unit (heck, it's the first new graph I've had in MANY years).
Wondering if anyone could help interpret some things on this picture for me.
1. What is the vertical "fuzz" between 20 and 30 feet?
2. What are the perfectly straight diagonal lines that show up on the sonar view? There's a few on the DI view, but very faint and show up in different places than the sonar view.
Thanks a lot for your help! I really think I am going to have a lot of fun with this. Have a few more pictures I would like to get input on but Photobucket isn't my friend right now.
Look forward to hearing your responses.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/12 06:49 PM
The "fuzz" is the thermocline.
The diagonal lines could be gas bubbles-they look that way because the screen is scrolling and/or you are moving as they rise.
Learn how to use the screen snaphot feature so your posted images will be clearer than that camera shot.
Thermocline or Temperature Cline...I would suspect Temp Cline since fish are in that area.
Angled up could be air bubbles, fish on the outer edge of the cone moving, or single bait fish attracted by the sound of sonar.
Posted By: roto77777
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/25/12 03:35 AM
good info. that's a nice unit
Posted By: TxPanhandle
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/30/12 10:32 PM
I am in the process of updating my 997c and 797c2 and do I need to download Humminbird PC or just the 997c and 797c2 files
that the humminbird site shows for each of my units
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/12 01:09 AM
I am in the process of updating my 997c and 797c2 and do I need to download Humminbird PC or just the 997c and 797c2 files
that the humminbird site shows for each of my units
HumminbirdPC is for waypoint management on your computer. Both in your account are the same. You may want to learn how to use that software at some point.
With that, you
download the program from your account and then
install it just like any other computer software. It is two steps.
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/02/12 02:32 AM
I have a 778c hd. i hook,it up via ethernet to a 788 ci hd di. the 778 is not showing a network tab.
Anybody had this problem, any ideas how to fix it?
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/02/12 09:44 PM
The "fuzz" is the thermocline.
The diagonal lines could be gas bubbles-they look that way because the screen is scrolling and/or you are moving as they rise.
Learn how to use the screen snaphot feature so your posted images will be clearer than that camera shot.
thermocline or interference? I get the same thing when my TM is running
Posted By: Sideiron
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/03/12 07:39 PM
I have a 788ci hd di combo on the dash with skim transducer at back and a 596c hd di up front with tranducer on TM,(both bought new this year). I'm getting close to a way point & I shut down the motor and troll the last bit of the way. Is there any way that I can hook up my non-GPS FF to my rear Gps unit and see the same picture so I can use it to find the waypoint? ps: I know, I'm from the darkages and I don't much about electronics
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/03/12 09:40 PM
No, you cannot display GPS data on a non-GPS equipped unit.
The units are not monitors for other units.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/03/12 09:49 PM
The "fuzz" is the thermocline.
The diagonal lines could be gas bubbles-they look that way because the screen is scrolling and/or you are moving as they rise.
Learn how to use the screen snaphot feature so your posted images will be clearer than that camera shot.
thermocline or interference? I get the same thing when my TM is running
You may be correct on the vertical "spikes" that show between the thermocline and the surface as being RF interference or that is cross-talk from another unit making those regular spaced spikes. The "fuzz" is the thermocline.
Posted By: saskeeter
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/12 10:33 PM
Hey Doug,
I see you are the HB expert. What are your recommendations for mounting my 998c SI and 998c DI to my console and bow of my 06 ZX 225. Ram recommends the D111U and D111UC(which has the short arm)?
Thanks
I've used both the 1.5" Ball or 2.25" Ball on the 900 Series and worked fine for me. I like the short arm.
Does anybody know of anyone selling a fish finder with gps and sonar? If so let me know please. 817-996-5528
Justin
LOL, I have another question for you Doug , if your not tired of typing..
998 side imAge, left side of my side scan is darker almost black unable to read . I made sure my ducer was level yesterday.. ducer is mounted low on the transom no obstruction left to right!! Need some advice but I hope you don't say ducer is going out..
ThKs. B .VICKERY
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/13/12 11:59 PM
LOL, I have another question for you Doug , if your not tired of typing..
998 side imAge, left side of my side scan is darker almost black unable to read . I made sure my ducer was level yesterday.. ducer is mounted low on the transom no obstruction left to right!! Need some advice but I hope you don't say ducer is going out..
ThKs. B .VICKERY
I'll say it "your transducer is failing" LOL.
If you have access to another SI unit, cross test the transducer with that unit and test your unit on their transducer.
You can also remove the transducer from the mount and just let it hang in the water below the hull, move it around, to see if one side is still darker than the other.
A left side crystal failing seems to be the most common for some reasom. I had a XTM 9 SI 180 T left side go bad.
Thanks , ill try that ASAP before it gets to cold.
Did you try scanning the same area opposite direction? Sometime if you shoot downhill versus uphill it will be darker on the downhill side. If it always happens on the Left side I would call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they can help you get it resolved. But like Wayne mentioned cross testing is the best way to know 100% for sure it's transducer.
Doug,
I added two electrical chokes that I bought at Radio Shack for $9.00 and it fixed my TM interference on my HB 596 DI HD. Why didn’t HB think of this? I rewired and grounded everything twice if not three times, nothing helped. I hope this will help others. I know it’s a TM problem and not a HB problem. This is in no way meant to be negative towards HB, they have a great product and I am a 100% satisfied customer.
That round circle in the power cable is a choke on the power cable. They also build the TMC1 which is a Trolling Motor Choke that kills RF/Electrical noise. Depends on where it is entering the system. HB has solutions and is best to work with Customer Service to help. What works on one might not work on another system. Thanks for sharing it may help someone else.
Posted By: Cactusflyr
Re: Humminbird - 10/13/12 08:46 PM
Been running my 798ci for 6 mos now and am just tickled with it but have a few questions.
The di is not very sensitive........am i correct in that I need to increase si sensitivity to increase di sensitivity. Was thinking of doing this anyways.
what do people do with the humminbird pc program other than rename points and such.....i do this in the unit menu??
how do you post pics here so I can get any recommendations from you?
For all the questions about interference on this forum....i split a garden hose and put my transducer cable in it once the cable was in the boat and taped it up....cleared it right up.
Thanks.....James
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/13/12 09:19 PM
Have you looked at all the menu items? There is a DI sensitivity setting. Typically a setting that is 2 numbers higher than the SI sensitivity setting works well.
Are you keeping the unit software up to date?
Which one of the 798ci units do you have?:
798ci SI
798ci HD SI
You can manage your waypoints with HumminbirdPC just like on the unit. Also PC will give you a program to save your data in case you have unit issues.
To post pictures, use a host site like Photobucket and include the link to the picture in your message text.
I did a Tips 'n Tricks Video on Down Imaging that might help.
http://youtu.be/bs8dlOVHXJ8
Posted By: badmutha2k
Re: Humminbird - 10/14/12 03:14 PM
Hey guys, can someone help me with this.
This is my first boat - have read thru and need some clairity in more ways than one. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
I currently have a 587 di unit with transducer mounted to the transom. Here is the screen shot of the transducer mount
With factory settings running the outboard at 2 to 6 mph - I get this kind of interferance, at least I believe it is interferance, I am thinking prop wash ? Notice the red and blue fuzz from the surface down to about 8 ft.
The transducer is mounted only 4 to 6 inches from the side of the outboard. Is this a cause for the... what I want to call surface clutter ? When the outboard is not running the screen clears ? Electrical interference ?
Also when I have the boat on plane the Humminbird fails to read - however the dink Lowrance that came with the boat still reads and its transducer is in similar location mounted on the opposite side of the transom.
I purchased an 1198 and plan on installing it this week. Where on the back of my boat should I mount the transducer ? Can I use the same mount that the 587 uses ?
Thanks again. I spent all my pennies on the SI unit and am going to attempt the installation myself just trying to get it right the first time...
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/14/12 03:22 PM
What brand/model boat do you have?
NO, the Side Imaging transducer for the 1198c SI will not fit the same mount as the DI transducer you have.
Posted By: badmutha2k
Re: Humminbird - 10/14/12 04:09 PM
What brand/model boat do you have?
NO, the Side Imaging transducer for the 1198c SI will not fit the same mount as the DI transducer you have.
Wayne, I have Lowe 175 Mod V. So are you saying I need to mount the transducer for the 1198 C SI futher away from the motor ? I read the transducer mounting guide from Humminbirds website and it says I need to be 15 inches away from prop. If I do that I will be mounting either on top of trailer running boards or futher right of the prop ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/14/12 07:51 PM
What brand/model boat do you have?
NO, the Side Imaging transducer for the 1198c SI will not fit the same mount as the DI transducer you have.
Wayne, I have Lowe 175 Mod V. So are you saying I need to mount the transducer for the 1198 C SI futher away from the motor ? I read the transducer mounting guide from Humminbirds website and it says I need to be 15 inches away from prop. If I do that I will be mounting either on top of trailer running boards or futher right of the prop ?
Message sent----
Posted By: Eastexn
Re: Humminbird - 10/16/12 09:50 PM
I have two 597ciHDDi and when I get all of the settings like I want them I have turned off the TEMP display,,,,and I can't seem to find the menu to turn it back on. Restore Defaults turns it back on but deep sixes my settings.
Where is the temp switch in what menu.
Thanks.
Posted By: Drawout
Re: Humminbird - 10/17/12 12:55 AM
Anyone heard what the price will be on the new led lit 998s debating on weather or not to take advantage of discount prices or wait...
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/17/12 01:18 AM
The announcement at ICAST stated the price will be the same MSRP as the present models.
Check with a marine electronics dealer for their pricing.
Posted By: UJC
Re: Humminbird - 10/17/12 04:59 AM
I have two 597ciHDDi and when I get all of the settings like I want them I have turned off the TEMP display,,,,and I can't seem to find the menu to turn it back on. Restore Defaults turns it back on but deep sixes my settings.
Where is the temp switch in what menu.
Thanks.
I tried to find TEMP on my unit in the house with a battery connector for power only (sonar is on the boat). TEMP does not show. I looked in the manual and it states it is auto displayed on several of the views.
I came to the conclusion that if I don't have the sonar plugged in, TEMP won't show. It's too late tonight to test it plus I don't want to have to uncover the boat.
If you didn't have sonar connected, try it on your boat. I believe TEMP should display whether the ducer is in/out of water.
Jimmy
Your correct it has to have a transducer or auxillary temp probe plugged in to get temp readings. If it doesn't sense the Temp Probe it will not operate that feature until it does. Plug it into the transducer and see what happens - should get temp readings then.
I have a question on my 898 HB SI. The right side of my screen goes dark, randomly from area to area. I have to change my setting from area to area.
I know what shooting down hill into deeper water looks like. (This is not the issue.)
I keep my unit set on the right side SI.
My transducer is mounted correctly.
In water over 20 feet deep, I get a much darker picture and not much detail in some areas.
Boat speed is 3 MPH or less when SI.
I have tried and tweaked every color pallet and seem to get the most detailed pictures with amber 2 with the sensitivity set on 13. (When working correctly.)
I have to increase the sensitivity up to 17 when the right side goes dark; this makes the left side hot or bright.
The settings shown in the picture is the best image that I could get when the right side goes dark. (This picture was taken in a flat and is not a drop off.)
Is this normal?
Could the boat be listing to the right? Like off balanced. I've seen this when I fill starboard livewell and Port fuel is empty and me only on starboard side it tilts the boat to the right a little and the transducer tilt down a little. If you balance the boat it reduces the darkness. Other thing is to raise right side of the transducer so it's more level.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird - 10/20/12 02:07 PM
Have a question for you guys. I posted this in the BBC Humminbird forum but I thought I would ask here too ( Doug you probably saw it over there
).
Just bought a 898 and a Ram mount to put it on by the driver console. My question is should I use bolts or screws to attach the Ram mount base to the fiberglass?
Thanks in advance
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird - 10/20/12 03:41 PM
I went to Lowes and got phillips head stainless steel bolts that fit flush into the Ram mount. For the underside I picked up locking washers and nuts, also stainless steel. I used blue locktite just in case.
I took all the mounts with me because I also needed the short bolts that hold the HB mount to the Ram 11" mount.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 10/20/12 04:40 PM
Anyone here run a 898 or 998 on the Trolling motor? How do you like it? Any pics on the mounting of the unit? Thanks
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird - 10/20/12 04:51 PM
I run a 998 on the trolling motor. I'm using the SI transducer, was able to find a thread on how to route the wiring on the notch of the I-pilot. Also ran the Hydrowave wiring on the same spot and it's working perfectly right now. I'm using a Ram mount for the 998. I'll try to post a pic or two in a bit.
Side imaging works well, just expect some zig zag lines when you're moving the trolling motor side to side.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird - 10/21/12 12:38 AM
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/21/12 03:03 AM
Anyone here run a 898 or 998 on the Trolling motor? How do you like it? Any pics on the mounting of the unit? Thanks
I first used a 798ci SI at the bow with a trolling motor mounted SI transducer. Now I have a 1198c SI unit at the bow.
Doug has a 998c SI on the bow of his Skeeter. We use RAM mounts.
This is my setup, Doug has posted his before.
I am looking at this unit about 95% of the time I am on the boat and using this view.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird - 10/21/12 07:29 AM
Thanks. No issues with the bouncing on the bow?
Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird - 10/21/12 11:56 PM
Could the boat be listing to the right? Like off balanced. I've seen this when I fill starboard livewell and Port fuel is empty and me only on starboard side it tilts the boat to the right a little and the transducer tilt down a little. If you balance the boat it reduces the darkness. Other thing is to raise right side of the transducer so it's more level.
This is what I had to do to compensate for my fat arse.
Could the boat be listing to the right? Like off balanced. I've seen this when I fill starboard livewell and Port fuel is empty and me only on starboard side it tilts the boat to the right a little and the transducer tilt down a little. If you balance the boat it reduces the darkness. Other thing is to raise right side of the transducer so it's more level.
Relocated the transducer to the center of the boat. Did not help. This problem does not happen all of the time? What's next?
Anyone here run a 898 or 998 on the Trolling motor? How do you like it? Any pics on the mounting of the unit? Thanks
I use a 998c the last 2 Years and the previous 2 years I ran 898c on the bow. I like the smaller height for the way I fish.
Here is an image from SI on the Trolling Motor while I was Hybrid Huntin last week.
Here's the fish in the image
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird - 10/22/12 07:30 PM
Anyone here run a 898 or 998 on the Trolling motor? How do you like it? Any pics on the mounting of the unit? Thanks
I use a 998c the last 2 Years and the previous 2 years I ran 898c on the bow. I like the smaller height for the way I fish.
Here is an image from SI on the Trolling Motor while I was Hybrid Huntin last week.
Here's the fish in the image
Looks Good
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Posted By: brent1
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/01/12 11:17 PM
Whats humminbird fixing to release? Gotta be something with all these discontinued 998 sales going on.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/02/12 12:19 AM
Whats humminbird fixing to release? Gotta be something with all these discontinued 998 sales going on.
ICAST was in July. There it was announced that the 800 and 900 series would be changing displays to the LED backlighting for the 2013 year model. The new units will have HD in the model names.
2013 Humminbird 998c HD SI combo
Vibrant colors/resolution New super bright LED display
*Incredible sunlight viewability
*Available December/January....MRP $1999.99
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_L3jTLec...ture=plpp_video Call today for your discounted quote. I also have the 2012 model 998c SI combo available....Closeout price. Give me a call or shoot me a PM.
Posted By: KingChamp202
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/03/12 09:20 PM
How do you post a pic from your Humminbird to the internet? I got a 1198 with A 8gb sd card, and a new laptop. But have no clue how to get the card reader to run the sd card info.
Posted By: bayoubob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/04/12 03:01 AM
If I have a SI transducer on the back of the boat and I add a in hull transducer is it necessary for me to put the temp sensor in water or will it pick it up from the SI transducer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 12:58 AM
If I have a SI transducer on the back of the boat and I add a in hull transducer is it necessary for me to put the temp sensor in water or will it pick it up from the SI transducer?
There are two shoot-thru 83/200 kHz transducers.
The XP 9 20 that doesn't have a temp sensor.
The XP 9 20 T that does have a temp sensor.
If you use the AS SIDB Y cable, the temp sensor of the XP 9 20 T is not connected. Temp comes from the SI transducer.
If you want to use the temp. sensor of the XP 9 20 T you have to use the TS3 switch and select which transducer to use. Some like that setup to monitor livewell temp.
Posted By: bayoubob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 01:18 AM
Thanks Wayne!!!!
How do you post a pic from your Humminbird to the internet? I got a 1198 with A 8gb sd card, and a new laptop. But have no clue how to get the card reader to run the sd card info.
This will tell you how to post images on message board:
http://www.bbcboards.net/humminbird-sonar-gps/239987-how-post-images-here.htmlyou can view screen captures with a Photo Viewing Program on your computer.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 07:15 PM
What size ram mount should be used on a 998 SI on the bow?
What size ram mount should be used on a 998 SI on the bow?
Ram D-111U-C
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 09:08 PM
Doug, my 898 will sometimes light up really good and other times the screen looks a ton more grainy when I haven't touched the sensitivity. Sometimes it does it when I change from the track back to SI and visa versa. Some areas I can set the sensitity at 12 or 13 and it's fine and other times it's so dark at 12 or 13 that I can't even see anything.
It all worked great before the recent software upgrade. Any ideas? I also have my chart speed set at 3....
Posted By: Drawout
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 09:13 PM
Not sure if its your issue or not but really silted/soft bottoms show up darker then hard .
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 09:37 PM
Thanks Drawout. No, I was on Grapevine which has a hard bottom and it's happened on different lakes too.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 09:49 PM
Doug, my 898 will sometimes light up really good and other times the screen looks a ton more grainy when I haven't touched the sensitivity. Sometimes it does it when I change from the track back to SI and visa versa. Some areas I can set the sensitity at 12 or 13 and it's fine and other times it's so dark at 12 or 13 that I can't even see anything.
It all worked great before the recent software upgrade. Any ideas? I also have my chart speed set at 3....
Check the voltage readout when the display darkens.
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 10:10 PM
Doug, my 898 will sometimes light up really good and other times the screen looks a ton more grainy when I haven't touched the sensitivity. Sometimes it does it when I change from the track back to SI and visa versa. Some areas I can set the sensitity at 12 or 13 and it's fine and other times it's so dark at 12 or 13 that I can't even see anything.
It all worked great before the recent software upgrade. Any ideas? I also have my chart speed set at 3....
Check the voltage readout when the display darkens.
What would cause the voltage to slip?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/12 11:13 PM
Doug, my 898 will sometimes light up really good and other times the screen looks a ton more grainy when I haven't touched the sensitivity. Sometimes it does it when I change from the track back to SI and visa versa. Some areas I can set the sensitity at 12 or 13 and it's fine and other times it's so dark at 12 or 13 that I can't even see anything.
It all worked great before the recent software upgrade. Any ideas? I also have my chart speed set at 3....
Check the voltage readout when the display darkens.
What would cause the voltage to slip?
Battery usage, weak battery, poor connections, corroded connections, loose connections, wiring too small to handle the load---are just a few.
Are you wired directly to the battery? If not I would start there first.
Are you wired directly to the battery? If not I would start there first.
Ditto. And make sure if you extended the power cable to use 14 Gauge wire to make sure you have have plenty of current and voltage to supply the unit what it needs to operate properly.
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/06/12 02:09 PM
Are you wired directly to the battery? If not I would start there first.
Ditto. And make sure if you extended the power cable to use 14 Gauge wire to make sure you have have plenty of current and voltage to supply the unit what it needs to operate properly.
Ok, thanks guys. I am wired directly to the battery and I haven't extended the power cable. Any other causes?
Posted By: pdxfisher
Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/06/12 04:35 PM
First, I want to say that overall I am loving this unit. However, I am having a few problems.
1. I seem to be having problems with my SD card slot. When I write out my waypoints that looks like it works OK, but when I try to save a snapshot it says no SD card found.
2. I can't seem to upload waypoints from HumminbirdPC software to unit. I download waypoints from unit to SD card. I pull them into HumminbirdPC. I edit the names. I write them back to the SD card and check the box to overwrite the files on the unit. When I put the card back in and restart the unit. The waypoints do not upload. I did update the software successfully when I first got the unit this summer.
3. I seem to be having an issue with occasionally getting long pauses and long beeps when I push a button. This just started. My unit also self-power cycled once while on the water.
Does anyone have any suggestions. Am I doing something wrong? Should I try to reload the software? Do I need to contact Humminbird?
Thanks for any help, input, pointers.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/06/12 05:10 PM
Are you using a blank formatted SanDisk brand SD card?
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/06/12 06:50 PM
The card is an 8Gb Sandisk card that was new when I started. I have only used it on my laptop with HumminbirdPC and in the sonar. Should I re-format the card each time I want to upload waypoints? Also, it does write to the card find when doing Save All under the waypoints menu.
I would format a new SD Card. Did you try both slots?
Assuming you have latest software in the unit? Early units did not support SDHC Cards which an 8GB is...but that been several years ago before SDHC cards where invented.
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/06/12 07:57 PM
Thanks Doug. I will try a new card.
My model is FF597CI HD DI COMBO which only has one card slot. I do have the latest software. I updated it first thing when I got the unit in July.
If I put that same software on the SD card and start up the unit, will it reinstall the software or ignore it because it is the same version?
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/08/12 07:03 PM
Well I figured out the problem, it was my stupidity
I was putting the SD card in the unit and then powering it on. However, to get it to upload the waypoints you need to put the card in after the unit is powered on. I figured this out when I was looking at the software update process. Everything seems to be working great now with respect to the SD card.
Next time out I will try saving some more waypoints and see if if the snapshots are working.
Thanks to everyone for the help!
I now offer a 10' or 20' extension cable I made up to hook your Humminbird units straight to the battery. It is Ancor Safety Duplex Cable - 14/2 gauge wire with an inline fuse holder and a 3 amp fuse. It also has the battery loops on the end to connect to your battery.
The power wire for Humminbird is only 6' and will not reach to the battery in many cases. Most will wire into a dash switch or fuse panel. This will sometimes cause a low voltage issue and create problems with your unit. I recommend wiring your unit direct to the battery to eliminate the chance for a low voltage issue down the road. This cable will assist you and save you some steps during your installation.
Safety Duplex Cable
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Outer jacket is made for easy removal and provides the best abrasion resistance available
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This will also help reduce/eliminate any other electrical interference.
This is an awesome addition to allow new Humminbird Owners a one stop shop for all their installation items. They can get premium wire ready to extend power cables with fuse and help make installation simpler and faster and done right the first time. One of the most common issues is insufficient power to run these electronics and this solves that! Awesome Addition David!
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/12 10:58 PM
What voltage do you need for the unit to display correctly? I'm pumping anywhere between 13 to 14 volts so I don't think that's the problem.
Can it be something wrong with the transduecer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/12 11:30 PM
What voltage do you need for the unit to display correctly? I'm pumping anywhere between 13 to 14 volts so I don't think that's the problem.
Can it be something wrong with the transduecer?
The spec operating voltage range is 10-20 VDC
It takes both Voltage and Current. Smaller Gauge (Larger Size Wire) will carry more current than Larger Gauge (Smaller Size) Wire. I would recommend 14-16 Gauge Minimum if you extend power cable. The Product that Shut Up and Fish has is perfect for this.
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/19/12 10:03 PM
Ok, thanks Doug. I'll check it. Shut Up and Fish, how much is that cable?
$14.95 for the 10' and $19.95 for the 20'
Add $5.99 for S&H
I have had a hard time keeping this item in stock. I do currently have them in stock.
Here's the First Video as I test the NEW MinnKota iPilot Link....I can tell you my days with a Cable Steer Trolling Motor are getting numbered! I was really, really shocked at the ease to operate and the Benefits of the iPilot Link System are enough that I may never put a Cable Steer Motor back on the boat....20+ Years of Cable Steer and 1 Day of Electric Steer has me ready to get back on the water for even more testing!
http://youtu.be/ffD83Ej9Y9A
Very nice Doug. Are the GPS reading coming from the Humminbird GPS or in the head unit of the Terrova?
Well got a new transducer for my 997 and it still aint working right .......three years and still aint got any use out of this thing.....sending it back too humminbird to find out problem.
Very nice Doug. Are the GPS reading coming from the Humminbird GPS or in the head unit of the Terrova?
The GPS to control the Trolling Motor is from the iPilot Link Controller mounted on the trolling motor.
Ok so if someone has a Terrova/i-Pilot and a Humminbird SI unit already, what will we need to do to get the i-Pilot Link System to work? Would we just need to purchase the i-Pilot Link Sys. and a LakeMaster 2013 card?
Yes. The iPilot Link is a new Control Head for the Terrova that has the Ethernet cable that hooks to the Humminbird plus if they want the Follow the Contour Feature they will need a 2013 LakeMaster Chart that is iPilot Link Compatible which all 2013 Charts will be. If they have a current iPilot they can sell it and replace it with the new iPilot Link System. Pretty simple and very easy to install. I never did one tell I got my motor and was easy to install.
Posted By: Brech
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/12 01:09 AM
Hey Doug,
I've been running with old HB fishfinder for too long. I'm gonna upgrade to the 798ci HD SI combo. My question is can I get a cable or something to "project" screen info to a screen up front while I'm on the TM? I don't have to be able to change settings from the front.
Thanks for having this place to ask questions
Posted By: Gom
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/12 06:07 PM
Hey Doug,
I've been running with old HB fishfinder for too long. I'm gonna upgrade to the 798ci HD SI combo. My question is can I get a cable or something to "project" screen info to a screen up front while I'm on the TM? I don't have to be able to change settings from the front.
Thanks for having this place to ask questions
Following this post too and would be interested too.
Posted By: Gom
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/12 06:34 PM
Santa wants to upgrade my sonars. Thinking about a HB 998si -1198 HD SIcombo for top end . Do I install at dash or trolling motor? If I install at dash, what 2nd unit could I install at trolling motor to show same info to stay on the spot when I leave cockpit to fish at trolling motor? I will basicly be tossing my current sonars,what Units should I be looking for as far as compatiblity without breaking bank? Best Black Friday or Cyber Monday prices?
Brech,
You can link the console unit to the bow mount unit via the ethernet cable. This will allow you to share waypoints/GPS coordinates from one unit to the other.
I can work you up a quote on a unit and accessories if interest. Simply shoot me a PM.
Hey haveagoldenday,
I can also give you a quote on some Humminbird models. Shoot me a PM if interested.
Posted By: Gom
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/12 08:10 PM
That would be great!Hope you have a Cyber Monday sale?? This will be totally new technology for me. My most recent upgrade was maybe 4 years ago with a Humingbird 727. What do you reccomend to replace the units at trolling motor and dash that I have now? Pretty sure I can't afford 2 higher end HB's, what do you reccomend as 1 higher end and a 2nd one that would be compatable to use at the second location. Which one do I mount at console and which at trolling motor. Since I will be turning my list over to Mrs. Claus, can you also add in everything else I would need to install myself?
I have a 788C and a 998SI. When I download software updates, can the unit identify the correct update if I put both of them on one SD card?
Also, on the 998, the readouts are all on the left side and block some of the screed display. Is there a way to move the readouts to the bottom of the screen?
Posted By: Buckster83
Re: 998SI software update - 11/26/12 04:38 PM
I have the 788ci Hd on the bow, and it seems to go crazy every 20-30 mins. Starts reading 512 foot and beeping. If I turn it off then back on again it's good for 20 mins or so. Is there something I can do to fix this? Also it came with the boat, so I can't update the software that I'm aware of right?
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Issues with HB 597ciHD - 11/26/12 04:57 PM
I would format a new SD Card.
Update to this issue. Correct as usual Doug! The 8Gb card I had would read properly in the unit and it would read and write properly on my laptop. I bought a new card (4Gb) and put that in my unit and it reads and writes it perfectly. I still have no idea what the issue is with the 8Gb card, but I will just save it for other purposes.
Thanks so much for your suggestions and guidance.
Posted By: fishinman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/26/12 07:24 PM
I have a 998.... Does the latest update allow you to put your readouts on the bottom of the screen?
Thanks
Hey Doug,
I've been running with old HB fishfinder for too long. I'm gonna upgrade to the 798ci HD SI combo. My question is can I get a cable or something to "project" screen info to a screen up front while I'm on the TM? I don't have to be able to change settings from the front.
Thanks for having this place to ask questions
You would have to have a 898c, 998c or 1198c if you want Side Imaging since those models have the Video Out Port and can send data to another monitor...problem is most waterproof monitors cost close to price of another unit and heard are not sunlight friendly compared to marine electronics...so Etherneting two SI units like 798ci HD and another 798ciHD might be more economical.
I have a 788C and a 998SI. When I download software updates, can the unit identify the correct update if I put both of them on one SD card?
Also, on the 998, the readouts are all on the left side and block some of the screed display. Is there a way to move the readouts to the bottom of the screen?
Yes each update has it's own identifier so it will only load on the correct unit.
On the Side Imaging Screen Only you can turnout the readouts on the left but that is the only VIEW you can. But that's the most important one to be able since Side Imaging width is the most important other views vertical height is most important.
I have the 788ci Hd on the bow, and it seems to go crazy every 20-30 mins. Starts reading 512 foot and beeping. If I turn it off then back on again it's good for 20 mins or so. Is there something I can do to fix this? Also it came with the boat, so I can't update the software that I'm aware of right?
788ci HD is updateable just create an account and register the SN to your account and you can get the latest update. I would try that first.
I have a 998.... Does the latest update allow you to put your readouts on the bottom of the screen?
Thanks
On the Side Imaging Full Screen VIEW it will overlay Depth and Temp when you turn them off in Sonar Master Menu. All Other Views they remain on the left side.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/27/12 01:28 AM
This is the SI view with the data boxes turned off with the 800 and 900 series SI units.
ONLY the SI view has this feature and the data is not selectable.
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/27/12 03:05 PM
Hey Doug,
I put my friends 998 on my ram mount and ran it on Saturday. His graph worked perfectly and we didn't need to adjust the sensitivity or contrast when changing depths so that tells me that there's nothing wrong with my transducer or battery voltage. Any other ideas why my unit is going very dark sometimes? I have to turn the sensitivity up to 20 and contrast to 16 or so to even make out anything on the screen. Will restore factory defaults correct this? I have been only having this problem after I downloaded the new software update a month or so ago. It worked perfectly before that.
Hey Doug,
I put my friends 998 on my ram mount and ran it on Saturday. His graph worked perfectly and we didn't need to adjust the sensitivity or contrast when changing depths so that tells me that there's nothing wrong with my transducer or battery voltage. Any other ideas why my unit is going very dark sometimes? I have to turn the sensitivity up to 20 and contrast to 16 or so to even make out anything on the screen. Will restore factory defaults correct this? I have been only having this problem after I downloaded the new software update a month or so ago. It worked perfectly before that.
Try restore factory defaults and re-install the latest updates.
Posted By: Stucky76
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/27/12 06:56 PM
Hey Doug,
I put my friends 998 on my ram mount and ran it on Saturday. His graph worked perfectly and we didn't need to adjust the sensitivity or contrast when changing depths so that tells me that there's nothing wrong with my transducer or battery voltage. Any other ideas why my unit is going very dark sometimes? I have to turn the sensitivity up to 20 and contrast to 16 or so to even make out anything on the screen. Will restore factory defaults correct this? I have been only having this problem after I downloaded the new software update a month or so ago. It worked perfectly before that.
Try restore factory defaults and re-install the latest updates.
Ok, thanks man.
Posted By: Buckster83
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/27/12 07:17 PM
I have the 788ci Hd on the bow, and it seems to go crazy every 20-30 mins. Starts reading 512 foot and beeping. If I turn it off then back on again it's good for 20 mins or so. Is there something I can do to fix this? Also it came with the boat, so I can't update the software that I'm aware of right?
788ci HD is updateable just create an account and register the SN to your account and you can get the latest update. I would try that first.
Thanks Doug will give it a shot!
Ok, possibly a crazy question, but I can't find it. I have the 597 ci hd di, manual states I have dualbeam plus transducer with 200/83khz. Manual also states that I can choose between the 2 and even split the screen between them. I can't find where the 83 kHz setting is. All mine shows in the menu is 200 and 455 kHz options for sonar. Am I not reading something right?
Thanks in advance.
DI models do not have the 83kHz that is the 2D only versions with Dual Beam Transducer.
Posted By: Westside.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/29/12 01:02 AM
I tried search on this, but heck guys, confused. Moved 997si to bow, brand new 1198 to console. Not linked. Transducer on TM is for the 997si, about 4-5 times today it just locked up/froze, had to master power down then restart. Very frustrating considering first day out since install. Any ideas?
Did you wire direct to the Cranking Battery? That is the number thing to do and make sure you are getting ample voltage and Current it take both to properly power a unit. Just like you could supply the same water pressure with a 1/2" hose and a 2" hose but you won't get the same amount of flow and the 2" can fill up a bucket faster with water or put out a fire for a fireman....firemen don't use a garden hose to fight a fire???
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/29/12 01:10 PM
Doug, have you heard anything regarding when iPilotLink will be available? Also, LakeMaster chip that works with iPilotLink? And, I guess the HB update to work with all the new stuff?
Around the End of the Year or Right after the First of the Year is what I heard for iPilot Link, 2013 LakeMaster Charts and SOftware will becoming around the same time for all of this so it will be ready for release.
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/02/12 12:14 AM
I bought another boat 5 months ago (97 stratus 201PE) and my TM unit will shut off everytime I try and start the outboard engine. How can I prevent this? Is my starting battery going bad?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/02/12 12:21 AM
Gonzz
One or more of the following:
Weak battery (too old or too small)
Battery not completely charged
Loose or corroded battery terminals
Weak fuse holder (if the glass type)
Wire too small from the battery to the unit power cord (causing voltage drop from resistance due to distance)
Posted By: Gonzz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/02/12 12:26 AM
Thanks. Will check voltage on battery. I think it's going bad. Should I be running electronics on starting battery?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/02/12 01:06 AM
Thanks. Will check voltage on battery. I think it's going bad. Should I be running electronics on starting battery?
Most do.
Posted By: Canoe Man
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/03/12 12:59 AM
I am looking at buying a Hummingbird 596c hd di. Was wondering if anyone has anything good or bad to say about that unit. I am a rookie with sonar.
@ Canoe Man I've got one. I've got that mounted on my trolling motor. Worked great! No issue. I loved it!
Humminbird 596 hd di has been a very, very popular if not one of the most popular models of Humminbird selling right now. And has been performing very well.
Check out this cool video and new technique that 360 Imaging will create... "Sight Trolling"
http://youtu.be/zdqpVE2ejicAlso here is a little video I was able to capture on the water with Humminbird 360 Imaging:
http://youtu.be/YDB57Ur44A8
With NEW LakeMaster Versions Coming Soon...
Created a NEW Database on the Yahoo Side Imaging Group for those looking to Buy, Sell or Trade LakeMaster SD Charts or Contour Elite Trip Planning Software. Probably need to become a member of the group to view..its FREE.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sideimaginggroup/database?method=reportRows&tbl=7
Posted By: Brech
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/13/12 02:49 AM
What size removeable card would be best for the 798ci HD SI? And which runs better, Lakemaster or Navionics?
Posted By: JoMay1961
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/13/12 04:11 AM
Doug if you have a minute for a couple questions from this rookie, I have a 798ci si and see alot of blue fish icons but frequently see some orange fish icons. whats the difference? how do I load lake gps data at home in the garage, all i get is no gps found. maybe pull boat outside? Thanks a bunch.
Look in the Operators Manual it shows that the Blue ICons and Orange Icons are from the different coverage areas of the 200KHz versus the 83 kHz so you know which cone angle the data came from.
Go to Full Simulator to enter GPS Data like this video shows:
http://youtu.be/K2Jm9ef09xk
What size removeable card would be best for the 798ci HD SI? And which runs better, Lakemaster or Navionics?
Humminbird can use up to 32GB SD Cards. I prefer the San Disk Extreme3 Cards for speed and performance.
Get the one that gives you the coverage you need. There are differences. I prefer LakeMaster when they have coverage for the accuracy, details and exclusive features to customize the map.
Posted By: awdieee
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/15/12 10:36 PM
I have a quick question for all the pros here.
Currently I have a 788CI HD and was told that I could upgrade to a DI if I change the transducer. Is it true?
I would think the unit itself is the same, maybe the software is different?
Can anyone tell me before I buy a DI transducer. TIA.
Lee
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/12 02:37 PM
I have a quick question for all the pros here.
Currently I have a 788CI HD and was told that I could upgrade to a DI if I change the transducer. Is it true?
I would think the unit itself is the same, maybe the software is different?
Can anyone tell me before I buy a DI transducer. TIA.
Lee
False, a unit that is not Imaging capable cannot be "upgraded" to the imaging technology by adding hardware, software, or both.
Posted By: awdieee
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/12 03:46 PM
Ok. That's what I figured. Thank you very much for the insight.
Lee
Posted By: littlewheel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/19/12 04:22 AM
I am a newbie to the fishing world and need some advice about my sonar unit. I purchased a Humminbird 598 CI HD SI and have no clue on how to use it. I mostly fish for sand bass and catfish. Can anyone help me with some basline settings? I fish at Bob Sandlin, Palestine and Tawakoni mainly. Never had a trolling motor and bought an I-pilot. I think I have a grip on that though.
I have a 596c HD DI and a 598c HD SI...why is the down imaging on the 596 so much better quality than the 598 even though I have the settings exactly the same? It's seriously like a night and day comparison.
Posted By: Sadisdix
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/12 04:37 AM
Is the Humminbird 597ci HD DI Combo compatible with the ipilot?
iPilot is not connectable to any unit. iPilot Link will only network with Ethernet Compatible Humminbird Units. 700Hd, 800, 908 Series, 1100 Series Units
500 Series are standalone only units and will not work with iPilot Link
I have a 596c HD DI and a 598c HD SI...why is the down imaging on the 596 so much better quality than the 598 even though I have the settings exactly the same? It's seriously like a night and day comparison.
596c HD DI is a dedicated DI Element. 598c HD SI creates DI Images from SI Elements. Different technology.
I am a newbie to the fishing world and need some advice about my sonar unit. I purchased a Humminbird 598 CI HD SI and have no clue on how to use it. I mostly fish for sand bass and catfish. Can anyone help me with some basline settings? I fish at Bob Sandlin, Palestine and Tawakoni mainly. Never had a trolling motor and bought an I-pilot. I think I have a grip on that though.
I have alot of video on YouTube the 598ci HD SI will be like the other SI Models which is what I use for most all of my Humminbird Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFBA73CD339FC6B95
For iPilot Link users to utilize the "Follow the COntour" Feature of iPilot Link on theor Humminbird they will need the LakeMaster charts that are iPilot Link Compatible. If you look at the bow the iPilot Link Logo will be on the front and side.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/12 01:05 PM
Doug, is it available now? If not, do you know when?
Also, any word on the release date for iPilotLink and the GPS puck?
596c HD DI is a dedicated DI Element. 598c HD SI creates DI Images from SI Elements. Different technology.
Thanks Doug! That brings me to my next questions. Is there a unit that has dedicated SI elements? I'd like a unit that has the best SI image possible. Also would I get the best of both worlds by having my 596 at the helm for DI and a 998 for SI? Would the transducers interfere with each other?
Posted By: Sadisdix
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/12 04:51 PM
Is the Humminbird 898c HD Si worth the extra money over the Humminbird 898c SI? How much of a difference does the HD make?
Doug, is it available now? If not, do you know when?
Also, any word on the release date for iPilotLink and the GPS puck?
LakeMaster IPilot Link compatible card will be after the first of the year before release announcment. I think iPilot Link is in January.They are building 360 Imaging as week speak so the GPS HS should be ready for release soon too. I would talk to your local Humminbird/LakeMaster and MinnKota Dealer for exact dates.
All SI Models have dedicated SI Elements in the Transducer 598c HD, 798ci HD, 898c, 998c and 1198c. The Larger transducer on the 898c, 998c and 1198c will create a little better image and can be used on the 598c HD and 798ci HD.
But they are both Dedicated SI Crystals.
Is the Humminbird 898c HD Si worth the extra money over the Humminbird 898c SI? How much of a difference does the HD make?
The HD Designation on the 898c/998c is to represent the highest pixel count screen and most importantly these units have the NEW LED backlight like the 700HD and 1198 already have. Which helps some in super bright sunny days.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/12 11:27 PM
Is the Humminbird 898c HD Si worth the extra money over the Humminbird 898c SI? How much of a difference does the HD make?
One more thing the MSRP of the 898c HD SI is the same as the MSRP of the 898c SI. There is no price increase for the change of the display to the LED backlighting.
You may find some discounted discontinued 898c SI models.
Posted By: Sadisdix
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 04:32 AM
Thanks guys! I just ordered my 898c HD SI. It should be here on Friday. I'm so excited! Good to know that I need to wait for next months lakemaster to come out
Posted By: Willowcreek
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 12:32 PM
I have an 1198 and am having problems with my three preset buttons. I have them setup with the three views that I use the most and I switch back and forth between them several times a trip. Usually once a trip when I am hitting one of the preset buttons the unit will say powering off and shut down. It is a very intermitant problem and may only happen once every 100 times I switch views. Also my temperature will disappear and I have to reset defaults to get it back, which is a pain because then I have to redo all my settings. I have sent the unit back to Hummingbird and they said they could not recreate the problem and sent it back to me. Anyone have any thoughts?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 01:48 PM
Check the voltage readout.
Did you extend the power cord directly to the battery?
Posted By: SuperG
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 08:54 PM
I have an HB 987C SI unit that came with my boat when I bought it earlier this year. The side image is darker on the port side compared to the starboard side reading which seems perfect. No fooling with the settings helps. Is the SI going south? Sonar and di works fine. High speed sonar is a no go so there must not be a y cable and thru hull transducer. Seems to me that it is a possibility the si part of the transducer is bad. I've fooled with the mounting to make sure it is shooting straight down while scanning. It is mounted to the jackate hole shot plate on the lower right side.
Also I've also tooled with the idea of putting this unit on the bow eventually because I've thought of upgrading at the console in the springtime. Would I have any issues putting the 987 on the trolling motor?
Thanks for any help.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 11:14 PM
Have you checked the transducer cable connected to the cable collector to see if it is a single cable or Y cable?
Post a picture of the transducer install.
As far as putting the transducer on the trolling motor, you won't know if it will have an issue with RFI until you do it.
You can take the transducer off the mount and hold it under water to see if the left side crystal is working properly and your mount location is the issue.
The replacement transducer is this one if you need it:
http://store.humminbird.com/products/313990/XHS_9_SI_160_T
Posted By: SuperG
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/12 11:32 PM
Come to think of it there is a y cable but I think it is for the interlink.
Mount location is perfect as far as I can tell. The transducer is where it should be after I reviewed data and compared to others. No obstructions. Only image I have right now is below.
When using the si there are images but they are nowhere as clear as the right side. It is like the right side image is clear and bright and the left is a lot darker and nowhere as clear. Can hardly make it out.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/25/12 12:23 AM
SuperG, your location looks good. From what I have experienced and read about, the left side SI crystal is the one that fails the most.
I have a XTM 9 SI 180 T that the left side quit working.
You could have an issue with your display. The best way to find out is test your unit on another SI transducer and connect another SI unit to your transducer.
Additionally your DI can't be working fine if you have SI issues.
The DI image is computer generated using the SI crystals. Humminbird SI units/transducers do not have a dedicated DI crystal.
Posted By: SuperG
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/25/12 01:04 AM
Ok I will have to take my unit out with my bud who has a 998 and vice versa.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/25/12 01:10 AM
That test will have to be on the water.
Posted By: SuperG
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/25/12 02:15 AM
Correct. That is what I meant.
Posted By: HawkeyeFisher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/26/12 09:06 PM
nice
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/27/12 03:29 PM
Just got me new BPS catalog and it shows the price for the new iPilotLink! Called All Star and they hope to have some in stock soon. FINALLY!!!! Been waiting months for one.
I will have the i-Pilot Link available soon as well. I am showing an ETA date of 1/11/13
Posted By: soggybottom
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/27/12 06:26 PM
why would i want a 718 when I can get a 561 DI with more power for the same price, screen size, 320x320 ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/27/12 06:58 PM
soggybottom, they are way different units.
The 561 DI does Down Imaging and 2D sonar--that's it.
The 718 is just regular dual beam 2D sonar that can be a Track Plotter if a GPS antenna is connected and it can share GPS data with another unit with the INTERLINK connection.
Look up both units on the Humminbird web site, under the picture of each is an accessory listing, click on "view all".
You will see the difference in what they can do.
Posted By: soggybottom
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/27/12 07:39 PM
what does 4000 ptp get you over 2000 ptp
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/27/12 09:03 PM
More depth capability and ability to detect smaller objects.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/12 10:28 AM
More depth capability and ability to detect smaller objects.
Wayne, I know that HB has a higher pixel count than Lowrance and I switched from an HDS 8 to an 1198 this year. BUT, I can take you to an area on Cedar Creek Lake where someone has sunk a large amount of tires to make a crappie structure.
On the HDS 8, with lower pixel count, you can see the individual tires to the extend you can almost read the writing on them. My 1198 doesn't come close to giving me the same or better display. I have tried everything I can think of to adjust the display to no avail. I just can not get as clear a pic on the 1198.
I'm thinking that even with the higher pixel count, the HB algorythms used are not as good or some other software related issue gives Lowrance a better view than what HB uses.
Would you agree or care to comment on this? It really bugs me to have abandonded Lowrance mainly due to support issues and had to sacrifice in performance.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/12 12:47 PM
Pixel count has nothing to do with the unit's power to show small objects and depth as soggybottom was asking about.
You got a lower resolution display now. You can't do any adjusting to add more screen pixels.
BTW the Humminbird 1198 and Lowrance HDS-10 have the same pixel density and count and is the lowest in each brand's models.
I don't have the specs for the HDS-8, but the pixel density is probably about 2000 more per square inch than the 1198 and HDS-10 have.
The number of screen pixels means nothing, it's the pixel density (pixels per square inch) that determines image quality.
Example is the Humminbird 798ci SI has 31,170.5 pixels per square inch (the highest resolution in the industry) and the 1198c SI has 8,858.2 pixels per square inch. I have both of those models and the image quality difference is very apparent.
Are you running the same frequency when looking at the tires? I prefer 455kHz for the 180° of Coverage Humminbird Offers but using the 800kHz will give you higher detail images but less coverage 110°.
455kHz
Reurned with 800kHz
Posted By: Raul Perez
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/04/13 10:36 PM
Sorry to here that! I purchased my1198 and also had this happen, I would press the view button a couple time and it would reboot! Call HB sent it back and got this fixed! They said it was something corrupt in the file and fixed it! Hope you have this solved soon .
Posted By: bass1n
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/06/13 09:05 PM
I have a 998 that seems to freak out every now and then... It will be on and working fine then suddenly the depth with show 1.9 ft and say I'm in the DI mode the screen's black - all menues work, left side displays work ie. temp, course, ect. - and will require shutting down and restarting to get it working again - only to do it again later. Any ideas - unit or Transducer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/06/13 10:45 PM
How is the unit powered?
Is the power cord extended directly to the battery?
Have you checked the unit digital voltage readout?
Posted By: bass1n
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/07/13 06:31 PM
It is running thru my fuse panel. The DV readout works if thats what you mean.. Do you think it could be spiking/droping and causing this problem?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/07/13 10:09 PM
It is running thru my fuse panel. The DV readout works if thats what you mean.. Do you think it could be spiking/droping and causing this problem?
"works" doesn't mean anything. Is the unit displaying at least 12V ? Does it drop under 11V when you are having issues?
Humminbird recommends you extend the power cord directly to the battery to eliminate voltage loss due to resistance from connections, switches, and boat wiring harness conductor size.
The longer the extension needed to do that, the larger the conductor size you need. 16-14 guage works very well for most boats. I use 12 ga marine grade conductors. Use a spade type fuse/holder at the battery and solder the splices.
Posted By: bass1n
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/07/13 11:17 PM
Thanks Wayne, I'll give it a try.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/13 04:47 AM
More depth capability and ability to detect smaller objects.
Wayne, I know that HB has a higher pixel count than Lowrance and I switched from an HDS 8 to an 1198 this year. BUT, I can take you to an area on Cedar Creek Lake where someone has sunk a large amount of tires to make a crappie structure.
On the HDS 8, with lower pixel count, you can see the individual tires to the extend you can almost read the writing on them. My 1198 doesn't come close to giving me the same or better display. I have tried everything I can think of to adjust the display to no avail. I just can not get as clear a pic on the 1198.
I'm thinking that even with the higher pixel count, the HB algorythms used are not as good or some other software related issue gives Lowrance a better view than what HB uses.
Would you agree or care to comment on this? It really bugs me to have abandonded Lowrance mainly due to support issues and had to sacrifice in performance.
if you cant see tires with your 1198, your either legally blind, or need a new unit. Humminbird has alot of detail, you need to spend time with your unit, and unlock its secrets, , , and you would see how great it is. why do u need to read tire lettering anyway? its the fish your looking for isnt it? or do u just want to be a picture fisherman? theyre all blown out firestones.. lol
You can see tires with Humminbird. Here is a Sunken Tire Reef looking at 200 Total Foot of Coverage in 8.3' of Water.
Posted By: Sunup
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/15/13 10:46 PM
You can see tires with Humminbird. Here is a Sunken Tire Reef looking at 200 Total Foot of Coverage in 8.3' of Water.
Zoomed it can recognize couple tires round doughnut shape.
a buddy of mine has an 1198 i believe it is. it doesnt seem to show arches as compared to my lowrance. have adjusted sensitivity but it doesnt seem to help. any ideas?
What's his settings?
Is the new real time GPS antenna available? I have a 898 and wanted to up grade.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/21/13 06:43 PM
All GPS antennas are "real time".
There is a new one available that has a Heading Sensor and is part of the 360 accessory.
It is available as a separate purchase also.
You need the current update to use it.
AS GPS HS
Read the last couple of posts on this thread:
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...pic#Post5834418
Thanks Wayne, I may have been misinformed. I thought I heard that a new GPS antenna with a faster or real time refresh rate was going to be available. It seems I can’t drive my boat straight to a waypoint. The donut is not a problem for me.
Humminbird Standard receivers refresh 4X a Second already. The new receiver that is coming is one with a Heading Sensor that also has a Compass built in that helps with slow speed navigation.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/27/13 01:22 AM
When in the mapping view, I understand for chart orientation what NORTH UP is, but what is the difference between COURSE UP and HEADS UP?
Posted By: MtnDew
Re: Humminbird SONAR - First Pics with 998c SI - 01/29/13 02:01 AM
Just got my 998 hooked up and drove around Lake Arlington. Saw lots of things that look like fish, couldn't prove it by putting any in the boat
This pic has 3 hard returns that I thought for sure where fish. Afterwards I was thinking maybe they were catfish and didn't want my bass plastics ?
.
This next one is obviously a tree. the 2D sonar shows fish arches, I think. not sure if the bright dots on the SI are fish or rocks ?
Also not sure what the bright long item on right SI side is?
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This 3rd batch .. the 2d sonar made me think I had sand bass on the bottom .. tried a slab and nothing took. I am assuming the big bright xmas tree thing is a xmas tree ?
-ltr
Posted By: MtnDew
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/30/13 04:18 AM
I sure most people know this, but I just ran across this post on another board and this graphic that helped me understand where side imaging puts things on the screen. The big revelation for me was to understand that the unit only knows how far the sonar return is from the transducer, not the angle. So you also need to find the shadow your target casts to understand where it is in the water column or on the bottom.
Look at items 2 and 3 which return the same distance to the transducer, so they map to the same place on the screen, but not the same place physically in the water. Oh so much to learn .. need to stop reading and go actually fish.
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AS GPS HS
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See compass information and your boat's orientation while moving or sitting still with this integrated heading sensor and GPS antenna. (Standard with 360 Imaging™)
Provides accurate Course Over Ground (COG) reading and position fixes within 2.5M, even in lower signal areas.
When used with 360 Imaging, provides the ability to mark accurate waypoints anywhere on the screen.
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Posted By: Bobcat1
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/13 12:20 AM
When in the mapping view, I understand for chart orientation what NORTH UP is, but what is the difference between COURSE UP and HEADS UP?
North up always has North at the top of the screen. Course up always has the direction you are going at the top. I personally prefer course up. Seems easier to navigate to waypoints.
Posted By: SpinFly
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/13 07:19 AM
Bird 798ci si hd
Can anybody tell me why occassionally the RIGHT SI image will occassionally just be straight static, like completely washed out? It's not all the time, but enough that I'm missing lots of ground. This is the best example I have on hand, but it's usually much worse...
If you stop the boat does it clear up? Could be water turbulence off the boat.
Posted By: SpinFly
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/03/13 10:50 PM
If you stop the boat does it clear up? Could be water turbulence off the boat.
Thanks, Doug, I will check that out next time. I didn't know this was happening until I opened it in HumViewer.
Posted By: SuperG
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/13 02:37 AM
SuperG, your location looks good. From what I have experienced and read about, the left side SI crystal is the one that fails the most.
I have a XTM 9 SI 180 T that the left side quit working.
You could have an issue with your display. The best way to find out is test your unit on another SI transducer and connect another SI unit to your transducer.
Additionally your DI can't be working fine if you have SI issues.
The DI image is computer generated using the SI crystals. Humminbird SI units/transducers do not have a dedicated DI crystal.
Tested my head unit (987csi) today on my bud's boat (998csi), worked like a champ. My transducer is no good.
Anyone see a Dogs Head?
How about now?
Humminbird is proud to announce the release of software version 6.600 for 1198c SI, 1197c SI, 998c SI, 898c SI and 798ci HD SI products which includes the entire list below.
This release includes the following changes:
Added 360 Imaging operation menus and capabilities
Added iPilotLINK operation menus and capabilities
LakeMaster map coding was updated to work with i-PilotLINK
Fixed an issue where SI data was scrolling at twice the intended rate
Fixed an issue where 2D/DI data was not in sync if 83/200 kHz mode was enabled
Fixed an issue where DI Zoom was not in sync
Fixed SI Sensitivity issues on the 898c SI, 998c SI, 1197c SI, 1198c SI
Fixed an issue where Demonstration Mode OFF would not force normal mode and a connected transducer state
Fixed an issue where rapidly forcing the unit into Simulator Mode could cause the unit to restart
Fixed an issue where Ethernet sonar subscriptions would eventually drop off if the Control Head was booted with Sonar turned Off
Fixed an issue where Ethernet sonar subscriptions would eventually drop off if Sonar was turned Off and then back On multiple times within 60 seconds without a reboot
Fixed an Ethernet issue where the Heading Line ON/OFF setting would not be saved between restarts while subscribed to a remote AS GPS + HS
Removed Universal Sonar II transducer selection option, now users should select dual beam as their selection
Tweaks were made to radar functionality to fix a memory leak
Fixed a bug that caused some models to sometimes skip a view when cycling through views
Locked NMEA output at 4800 baud when enabled
In addition, version 6.570, 6.580 and 6.590 for the 1158c, 1158c DI, 1157c, 958c DI, 958c, 858c DI, 858c, 788ci HD DI, 788ci HD and 778c HD have also been released. The changes on these models excludes the 360 Imaging capabilities along with above mentioned SI adjustments plus a few other differences. Please see your Download Description in your Account for full details.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/13 03:59 AM
"""Fixed SI Sensitivity issues on the 898c SI, 998c SI, 1197c SI, 1198c SI"""
anyone know what specifically the problem was?
and has anyone downloaded the 6.600 onto thier 898 yet?
Posted By: will1979iam
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/13 05:48 PM
Hello Doug....
I have a bird 998c. Is there anyway to plug in another monitor or laptop to the unit on the water..... Video out???? If so, what cable and type of monitor would you need. I want an larger external screen to look at. I was told they have this setup at bass pro for marketing their demo units hooked up to large screens.
Anyone else can please help also. I am curious also who currently does this on the water.
"""Fixed SI Sensitivity issues on the 898c SI, 998c SI, 1197c SI, 1198c SI"""
anyone know what specifically the problem was?
and has anyone downloaded the 6.600 onto thier 898 yet?
Doug, can you help?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/13 09:37 PM
Hello Doug....
I have a bird 998c. Is there anyway to plug in another monitor or laptop to the unit on the water..... Video out???? If so, what cable and type of monitor would you need. I want an larger external screen to look at. I was told they have this setup at bass pro for marketing their demo units hooked up to large screens.
Anyone else can please help also. I am curious also who currently does this on the water.
Yes, your unit has a Video Out port to connect the display to a monitor. The cable is the VC-1.
BUT, good luck on finding a monitor that is sunlight readeable and somewhat weatherproof. "Been-there-done-that".
What someone may have setup indoors is way different than what will work outdoors.
Do a web search for "Highbright weatherproof monitor"
I have a small flat panel TV above my desk and have hooked to a DVD recorder and larger flat panel TV's too.
This is a auto DVD player monitor.
After seeing what a useable monitor costs, just got another SI unit.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/13 09:57 PM
"""Fixed SI Sensitivity issues on the 898c SI, 998c SI, 1197c SI, 1198c SI"""
anyone know what specifically the problem was?
and has anyone downloaded the 6.600 onto thier 898 yet?
Doug, can you help?
That note probably refers to some of the stuff that was screwed up with the 6.570 version. Additionally it is supposed to also make images sharper than with older software versions. I have not verified that on the water yet.
Several have stated the 6.600 works fine and some not so much.
I have it loaded on one of my units to compare against another one with older software. I hope to do that next week.
Posted By: will1979iam
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 12:05 AM
Yes, your unit has a Video Out port to connect the display to a monitor. The cable is the VC-1.
How do you convert the VC-1 cord's two video cables, to something that hooks into your laptop?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 12:44 AM
It isn't hooked to my laptop, just the TV on the wall.
I don't have a video-in laptop connection. Some might have that connection and software. I've seen discussions of military grade laptops being used for a video monitor with Humminbirds.
Don't remember what brand or model.
One of my desktops has a video-in though.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 03:11 PM
this question is for WAYNE
I was reading in the humminbird product manual abt how the humminbird 898 gets its information. It states this verbaitem...
Pulse Width Length- The length of time that a sonar sound burst is transmitted into the water. Shorter pulse widths provide better target seperation , but cannot travel to greater depths. Longer pulse widths provide better depth penetration, but result in poorer target seperation . Humminbird varies pulse width based on depth to optimize target seperation and depth performance..
second item..
SIDE IMAGE RANGE controls side beams and down beams reading at the same time.
so if you read the above statements would you come to the conclusion that being humminbird uses the side imaginging beams in the transducers to generate the down image,.. and pulse width (which affects target seperation--translation =image detail..
this would all tell me that the distance you have your SI beams set out should surely affect the down image quality;
it would seem that the closer in the si beams are set, the better down image would be obtained.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 03:16 PM
im going to do some experimenting and look at my downscan image while adjusting my side imaging beams close and far, and see if there is an effect on downscan quality.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 06:47 PM
Haven't considered all of that.
I do know that the Side Imaging units do not have a DI crystal in the transducer and the DI image is a computer generated image using the SI pulses.
I don't use DI regularly, just occasionally for a different perspective of a subject and to take screen shots for teaching purposes. Its value is very low when compared to SI, IMHO
Posted By: champ 198
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/08/13 09:00 PM
Update 6.60 lockedup my unit during updating it's on the way to Alabamy now.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/13 02:51 AM
Haven't considered all of that.
I do know that the Side Imaging units do not have a DI crystal in the transducer and the DI image is a computer generated image using the SI pulses.
I don't use DI regularly, just occasionally for a different perspective of a subject and to take screen shots for teaching purposes. Its value is very low when compared to SI, IMHO
I agree, but if we can achieve better down images by making a few adjustments, it would be cool. I normally run my SI beams around 48 feet, but will try to match them to the depth below the boat tommorow. If my theory is right, it should sharpen the Di image considerably because the shorter pulse width beams, should give greater target seperation, and hopefully generate greater detail in the image.
I wish I knew exactly how Humminbirds program executes, but its proprietery information. (as it should be).
I will find out thru cause and effect though.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird - 02/09/13 07:31 PM
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 11:32 AM
Haven't considered all of that.
I do know that the Side Imaging units do not have a DI crystal in the transducer and the DI image is a computer generated image using the SI pulses.
I don't use DI regularly, just occasionally for a different perspective of a subject and to take screen shots for teaching purposes. Its value is very low when compared to SI, IMHO
Wayne, what about the 788 HDDI unit? It only has DI and no SI. Are you saying this unit would have a DI crystal?
For my type fishing DI is perfect. IF you are telling me what I see is computer generated, it does one fine job. I only fish brushpiles/condos for crappie and that means I find it very effective to be able to see what is directly below the bow of my boat. We did ok without it but, it is just a big plus. I run my 788 in a split screen mode with 2D on top and DI on bottom. The images align perfectly and I can easily see if there are crappie on the brush or not.
I don't care how they do it, I'm just glad they do!
And the resolution is excellent.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 11:35 AM
Diel, in picture three at 270 degrees it shows a brushpile perfectly!! You can be sure it is a brushpile as you can see the shadow out past it! Very impressive.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 01:13 PM
Haven't considered all of that.
I do know that the Side Imaging units do not have a DI crystal in the transducer and the DI image is a computer generated image using the SI pulses.
I don't use DI regularly, just occasionally for a different perspective of a subject and to take screen shots for teaching purposes. Its value is very low when compared to SI, IMHO
Wayne, what about the 788 HDDI unit? It only has DI and no SI. Are you saying this unit would have a DI crystal?
For my type fishing DI is perfect. IF you are telling me what I see is computer generated, it does one fine job. I only fish brushpiles/condos for crappie and that means I find it very effective to be able to see what is directly below the bow of my boat. We did ok without it but, it is just a big plus. I run my 788 in a split screen mode with 2D on top and DI on bottom. The images align perfectly and I can easily see if there are crappie on the brush or not.
I don't care how they do it, I'm just glad they do!
And the resolution is excellent.
Down Imaging units use a dual crystal transducer. One does 2D and the other does DI.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 02:24 PM
Wayne, I know the beam is very narrow and seem to recall you can select narrow, medium and wide. Do you happen to know the beam width for each?
DI models do not have the selectable width like the SI models have. The only way to select coverage width is by changing frequency on a DI Model. 455kHz is 86° and 800kHz is 55°
Basically Wide is like 455 in DI Model and Medium is like the 800kHz.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 04:29 PM
Doug, I have both an 1198 and a 788 and assume from above that the cone angle is the same for all?
So, on the 1198 and in DI mode and 800khz operation the cone angle is 86 degrees? Seems awfully wide to me considering how small an area it shows at say 20' of water. I understand that the 2D cone angle is only 7 degrees. Is that correct?
Posted By: J-SPENCER
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 05:22 PM
I am planning on installing a 858c on the bow of my boat. I currently have a 997 at the console. I know I will need the interlink to connect these two units.
My questions are:
Is the Interlink system just plug and play ?
Will all of my way points be automatically transferred to the 858?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 05:56 PM
I am planning on installing a 858c on the bow of my boat. I currently have a 997 at the console. I know I will need the interlink to connect these two units.
My questions are:
Is the Interlink system just plug and play ?
Will all of my way points be automatically transferred to the 858?
Question 1, not quite
Question 2. yes, if you set it up correctly
Read the INTERLINK manual:
http://store.humminbird.com/media/document/INTERLINK.pdf
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 07:09 PM
Why would you use Interlink in stead of ethernet? Is it because one or the other of these units don't have ethernet?
If not, what advantage does Interlink have over ethernet?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/13 07:27 PM
Why would you use Interlink in stead of ethernet? Is it because one or the other of these units don't have ethernet?
If not, what advantage does Interlink have over ethernet?
The 997 is not Ethernet capable, INTERLINK is his only choice to share GPS data.
INTERLINK has only one "advantage" if you consider that an advantage. It writes GPS data to the other unit's memory. Ethernet displays its data on the other unit in a different color if both are Ethernet capable.
the 1198c generates DI from the SI Crystals (Not a Problem but different technology) The Widths are based on distance versus frequency coverage.
788ci HD DI model has a single dedicated DI crystal that the Frequency controls the areas of coverage.
Two different types of technologies and differences in how DI is created. Both work great just different processes to get there.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/12/13 02:08 AM
From the tests ive done recently It looks like the down imaging views are slightly crisper, cleaner, and more detailed, when my side imaging beams are set closer in. so if im in 20 feet of water, I started setting my side beams at 25 feet before looking at the DI screen. I believe this possibly changes the pulse width of the sonar beams,(shorter) and allows for faster processing of the data because the sonar return is increased.
Ive also found that contrast seems to be almost a secondary sensitivity, and really makes things pop out, especially in deeper water. you can have your sensitivity maxed on DI, and not see much,m then crank the contrast up, and things start to really show up.
Leanin post,
I have figured out to get the best images or screen shots. Every time when I start off fishing, I will find a piece of structure or bottom contour. I will hit the cursor as if I were setting a way point and freeze the screen, then I will hit the menu button, go to SI enhance, then play with the contrast and sensitivity numbers until I get the best quality picture. As I move locations and the depth and bottom hardness changes, I repeat the process. It makes a world of difference on the details. Most of the lakes up hear have soft mud, stilt, clay and hard clay bottoms and the density of the bottom changes constantly. So you have to play with the numbers as the bottom hardness changes. Let me know if this works for you down there.
You are correct on the DI.
SI is much clearer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/13/13 10:11 PM
From the tests ive done recently It looks like the down imaging views are slightly crisper, cleaner, and more detailed, when my side imaging beams are set closer in. so if im in 20 feet of water, I started setting my side beams at 25 feet before looking at the DI screen. I believe this possibly changes the pulse width of the sonar beams,(shorter) and allows for faster processing of the data because the sonar return is increased.
Ive also found that contrast seems to be almost a secondary sensitivity, and really makes things pop out, especially in deeper water. you can have your sensitivity maxed on DI, and not see much,m then crank the contrast up, and things start to really show up.
I tried the SI ramge setting adjustment yesterday and didn't see any affect on the DI image quality.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/15/13 11:37 AM
I tried out my new GPS puck yesterday and I'm not sure I understand what I'm seeing. Help me out here.
When navigating to a waypoint, I notice the boat icon doesn't turn with the navigation arrow. The speed up of the arrow, moving as you turn the boat is great but, the boat icon doesn't follow? As I'm moving over a waypoint, very slowly, the boat icon is pointing in a different direction??? What's up with that?
I can live with it but, I don't understand it.
Also, I followed the directions in the manual and when I first got out of the dock, I headed in a straight line and noted the difference in the heading reading and the COG reading within 5 degrees of each other. Then later, I noted that they could be very far apart and changing eratically. Can someone explain this also?
Just curious.
How is your mapping set? North Up, Course Up or Head Up?
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/16/13 04:38 PM
is your unit set to true north or magnetic north? I think theres around a 5 degree difference between the two.
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/17/13 11:29 AM
Doug, I've tried all three and see no difference when in any of the three.
The manual tells me to be using magnetic north and that the puck compensates for the slight variations between true and magnetic and I don't believe there is a 5 degree variation between the two anywhere in the world but, I could be wrong on that.
I wasn't able to get out yesterday so unable to respond till now.
Posted By: CenTxSkeeter
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/17/13 12:36 PM
You can use this address to find the GM angle or declination for your location. In central texas it has my location as a positive 4 degrees.
http://magnetic-declination.com/Hope that helps
Ron
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/17/13 01:13 PM
This is for where I am:
CHARLOTTESVILLE VIRGINIA
Latitude: 38° 1' 45.5" N
Longitude: 78° 28' 36.1" W
Magnetic declination: -9° 42' WEST
Declination is NEGATIVE
Inclination: 65° 37'
Magnetic field strength: 51513.5 nT
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/18/13 02:10 AM
Doug, I've tried all three and see no difference when in any of the three.
The manual tells me to be using magnetic north and that the puck compensates for the slight variations between true and magnetic and I don't believe there is a 5 degree variation between the two anywhere in the world but, I could be wrong on that.
I wasn't able to get out yesterday so unable to respond till now.
In navigation, the difference between true north and magnetic north is known as declination. All U.S. Geological Survey maps print relevant declination information, and the maps are updated every five years to account for shift. Hikers traveling in Northern California, for instance, have to make declination adjustments of roughly 18 degrees.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/18/13 02:12 AM
Okie Bob they found out the world was not flat . did you hear abt it?
should I present you some proof?
Forward
FYI......
This is a correction to an email previously sent out on February 6, 2013 and also on February 15, 2013. The 1197c SI does not support the 360 Imaging product. All other changes of this software release 6.600 are correct.
Humminbird is proud to announce the release of software version 6.600 for 1198c SI, 998c SI, 898c SI and 798ci HD SI products which includes the entire list below.
This release includes the following changes:
Added 360 Imaging operation menus and capabilities
Added iPilotLINK operation menus and capabilities
LakeMaster map coding was updated to work with i-PilotLINK
Fixed an issue where SI data was scrolling at twice the intended rate
Fixed an issue where 2D/DI data was not in sync if 83/200 kHz mode was enabled
Fixed an issue where DI Zoom was not in sync
Fixed SI Sensitivity issues on the 898c SI, 998c SI, 1197c SI, 1198c SI
Fixed an issue where Demonstration Mode OFF would not force normal mode and a connected transducer state
Fixed an issue where rapidly forcing the unit into Simulator Mode could cause the unit to restart
Fixed an issue where Ethernet sonar subscriptions would eventually drop off if the Control Head was booted with Sonar turned Off
Fixed an issue where Ethernet sonar subscriptions would eventually drop off if Sonar was turned Off and then back On multiple times within 60 seconds without a reboot
Fixed an Ethernet issue where the Heading Line ON/OFF setting would not be saved between restarts while subscribed to a remote AS GPS + HS
Removed Universal Sonar II transducer selection option, now users should select dual beam as their selection
Tweaks were made to radar functionality to fix a memory leak
Fixed a bug that caused some models to sometimes skip a view when cycling through views
Locked NMEA output at 4800 baud when enabled
In addition, 6.600 for the 1197c SI supports all of the above except 360 imaging capabilities and menus.
Version 6.570, 6.580 and 6.590 for the 1158c, 1158c DI, 1157c, 958c DI, 958c, 858c DI, 858c, 788ci HD DI, 788ci HD and 778c HD have also been released. The changes on these models excludes the 360 Imaging capabilities along with above mentioned SI adjustments plus a few other differences. Please see your Download Description in your Account for full details.
To insure you have all of these latest updates visit your My Account section now.
Tight Lines!
Humminbird Select
Customer Service Team
Posted By: J-SPENCER
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/13 04:34 PM
I started installing my interlink last night to connect my 997 to my 858. I've run into a possible snag. The interlink comes with 2 choke cables. Do I have to install these choke cables ?? If I have to install the choke cables, can I install them near the interlink or do they have to be plugged into the head unit?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/13 04:43 PM
No, you don't have to use them. They are for dealing with RFI if you get it.
You put them at the units if you use them.
Quick question: I currently have the 597 hdci and have to use a transducer ext cable. I'm upgrading to the 898c HD, can I use the same transducer ext cable I'm using now?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/22/13 07:03 PM
Posted By: OkieBob
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/23/13 12:08 PM
Okie Bob they found out the world was not flat . did you hear abt it?
should I present you some proof?
Well, it's pretty obvious to me that you are quite wrong, Mr Post! Open your eyes and take a look around...the earth is flat, I'm telling you!!! That's my story and I'm sticking to it....and please don't believe the nonsense that a man walked on the moon either! (and beware of those black helicopters)
Trust me, I've never lied to you
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/13 01:51 AM
hang in there okie, one day it will all make sense. like a light bulb came on.
Posted By: AGSWON
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/13 05:54 PM
Question for you HB experts. I have the latest 998si HD, and I would like to move the window that shows the speed, temp, date, etc. from the left side of the screen to the bottom of the screen when I'm in full screen side imaging. A lot of the pics on this thread are in this format. Thanks.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/13 06:01 PM
You're looking at a 1198. The 998 only has them on the side.
Posted By: AGSWON
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/13 06:58 PM
Thanks Diel. That sucks. Maybe they'll change that with an update soon. I'd like for it to completely disappear, so you can use more of the screen.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/25/13 12:41 AM
Question for you HB experts. I have the latest 998si HD, and I would like to move the window that shows the speed, temp, date, etc. from the left side of the screen to the bottom of the screen when I'm in full screen side imaging. A lot of the pics on this thread are in this format. Thanks.
Just turn off the data boxes in the SI view.
That setting is in the Sonar menu.
This is a 998c SI:
Posted By: AGSWON
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/25/13 01:50 PM
Thanks Wayne. That pic is exactly what I want my full screen SI to look like. I thought I tried that already, but maybe I did something wrong.
It's called Side Imaging Readouts and you turn them to OFF to get this image.
Posted By: Dicster
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/27/13 03:23 AM
I have an 1198 and am having problems with my three preset buttons. I have them setup with the three views that I use the most and I switch back and forth between them several times a trip. Usually once a trip when I am hitting one of the preset buttons the unit will say powering off and shut down. It is a very intermitant problem and may only happen once every 100 times I switch views. Also my temperature will disappear and I have to reset defaults to get it back, which is a pain because then I have to redo all my settings. I have sent the unit back to Hummingbird and they said they could not recreate the problem and sent it back to me. Anyone have any thoughts?
well, at least now i kno i'm not the only one with this problems. I didnt have any problem with temp reading or having to reset it to default. Mine would shut of when hit preset buttons and at times it would occasionally shuts off by itself. I have my unit connect directly to the battery. If i ever finds out without sending the unit in, I would let u kno.
Posted By: MtnDew
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/13 04:44 PM
I have an 1198 and am having problems with my three preset buttons. I have them setup with the three views that I use the most and I switch back and forth between them several times a trip. Usually once a trip when I am hitting one of the preset buttons the unit will say powering off and shut down. It is a very intermitant problem and may only happen once every 100 times I switch views. Also my temperature will disappear and I have to reset defaults to get it back, which is a pain because then I have to redo all my settings. I have sent the unit back to Hummingbird and they said they could not recreate the problem and sent it back to me. Anyone have any thoughts?
well, at least now i kno i'm not the only one with this problems. I didnt have any problem with temp reading or having to reset it to default. Mine would shut of when hit preset buttons and at times it would occasionally shuts off by itself. I have my unit connect directly to the battery. If i ever finds out without sending the unit in, I would let u kno.
I have a very new, 2012 998c SI running 6.49 and have the same problem, it always seems like when I am switching screens it will shut off like I had held the power button. It doesn't just go blank, it says shutting down. I can't say it is always when I use the preset buttons vs view/exit, but I would say 100% it happens when switching screens and I use the preset alot.
I don't want to give up the unit and be without it so I have just lived with it... SHOULD WE CALL HUMMINGBIRD ? will they try and fix the software ?
Has anyone upgraded to 6.6 and still had this problem ?
Posted By: jig master
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/13 09:57 PM
Help when I set my unit to 83 KHZ I do not get a picture
All I get is a white screen ..I have downloaded newest upgrades
and it did not take care of problem..Also the upgrade was suppose to take care of the units scrolling speed but its still
scrolling faster than a friends unit..Help please...
Posted By: steelers
Re: Humminbird - 03/04/13 01:44 AM
Now if I could only afford the one I want.
Now if I could only afford the one I want.
I will rephrase my statement and simply say do your homework before purchasing from anyone selling below MRP
Just sayin....
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/04/13 10:43 AM
Now if I could only afford the one I want.
Be very careful buying below MRP as your warranty can and will be disqualified.
Just sayin....
What circumstances would that be true?
Lots of authorized dealers sell below MSRP as common practice.
Now if I could only afford the one I want.
Be very careful buying below MRP as your warranty can and will be disqualified.
Just sayin....
What circumstances would that be true?
Lots of authorized dealers sell below MSRP as common practice.
I will rephrase my statement and simply say do your homework before purchasing from anyone selling below MRP
David @ shut-up-and-fish
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird - 03/04/13 08:48 PM
that kind of rubs be the wrong way.. its not the consumers fault or responsibility to know or care what retailers are in compliance with thier distributors. The consumer is the end user. If Johnson outdoor entrusts a retailer to sell thier product, and they dont comply with the terms,.. then to try and hold the consumers nads to the fire as retaliation would be very poor business practice, and a loud invitation to class action lawsuits.
Posted By: big10
Re: Humminbird - 03/05/13 06:21 PM
Steve I agree. I dont belive they are attacking the problem the right way.
I will rephrase my statement and simply say do your homework before purchasing from anyone selling below MRP
David @ shut-up-and-fish
How do you turn on the Ethernet after linking 2 units together? Are they supposed to automatically see that they are connected, or is there something in the settings that turns them on.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/08/13 01:02 AM
If you have somewhat current unit software, you get an Ethernet Menu when you connect the Ethernet cable.
You need to read the Ethernet manual so you will know how to set it up.
To get that, go to the Humminbird web site, select Products, then Accessories, locate one of the Ehernet cables, click on one of them and at the lower right side choose "Support" and then choose "Download Manual".
ah ha, I was wondering where this manual was hiding!
Thanks Wayne, I had to update the s/w on my 1198. Needless to say that was alot of changes that freaked me out when it powered back up. Interlink is working fine now, its time to go fishin!!
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird - 03/09/13 02:45 AM
I have a question, i have a 998 on the bow of my boat with the transducer trolling motor mounted,and the gps puck is mounted on the bow,and i have a 1198 at console and i want to mount the gps puck on the rear of my boat above the transducer because i understand that the closer the gps puck is to the transducer the more accurate you can mark stuff and when i interlink them with a ethernet cord will the units use the pucks that they are connected too?
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird - 03/09/13 02:53 AM
yes.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird - 03/09/13 03:07 AM
Thankyou sir, looks like im going to be mounting the puck tomorrow instead of fishing because its suppose to be windy like crazy! sux!!!
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird - 03/09/13 02:56 PM
GPS receivers and transducers are plugged into the units
the same way they have been whether you use Ethernet or
not. Ethernet is simply a separate cable that communicates
information between two units.
Posted By: dfd51
Re: Humminbird - 03/09/13 11:14 PM
Going to purchase the HB 598ci HD SI. I was planning to mount it on my trolling motor but was told by the man behind the counter that side imaging would not work very well when mounted there. I have a HB 565 on my console that I am happy with there and an old HB Wideside mounted on the bow with a TM transducer. Is there a problem using a trolling motor mount for the newer HB side imaging fish finders? Thanks ahead for any help!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/10/13 01:39 AM
Going to purchase the HB 598ci HD SI. I was planning to mount it on my trolling motor but was told by the man behind the counter that side imaging would not work very well when mounted there. I have a HB 565 on my console that I am happy with there and an old HB Wideside mounted on the bow with a TM transducer. Is there a problem using a trolling motor mount for the newer HB side imaging fish finders? Thanks ahead for any help!!
"the man behind the counter" doesn't know what he is talking about. I use a bow SI unit with a trolling motor mounted SI transducer all the time while fishing and just use the SI view a majority of the time.
The "problem" is the idiot you were talking to.
I would advise you to exchange the transom transducer for the trolling motor puck version XTM 9 SI 180 T. Contact Humminbird Customer Service for the exchange.
Posted By: dfd51
Re: Humminbird - 03/10/13 02:15 AM
Thanks. I am going through the EXTENSIVE amount of videos relating to HB imagers and just finished watching one specifically dealing with trolling motor mounts. This particular one used a shield from Transducershieldandsaver.com. It uses that original transducer mounted to their shield and strapped to the trolling motor. Is this a good option or is the puck version still a better idea. I might just purchase the second 'ducer and power cord and use them when I go "pond-hopping". It would be interesting to see what was in those smaller lakes and ponds and be much more convenient to learn how to use the imager. BTW, I see your name on here alot giving help to guys like me. I appreciate that.
I love my Transducer Shield & Saver they not only make it easy to mount but protect the transducer.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird - 03/10/13 04:56 AM
^^^ agree with Doug! i get beautiful images on my 998 mounted at the bow with the transducer mounted on my trolling motor with a transducer shield and saver,and i have to say im one of the lucky ones that doesnt get no interferance with my motorguide tour!
MSRP is a price determined by the manufacture as a "suggested retail price" only, and does not necessarily determine the actual price that the merchandise must be sold. MAP(Minimum Advertised Price), on the other hand, is a price (less than suggested retail) determined by the manufacturer. MAP may be any price equal to or lower than the suggested retail price. MAP contracturally permits the retailer (big box higher volume retailers) a range of pricing so as to be highly competitive with others who sell identical products who may not have or been able to negotiate MAP (mom and pop retailers). MAP is highly enforeceable and is quite often. MAP is generally not negotiated by a manufacturer when a product is highly unique and of the highest quality and function available. Many manufacturers simply sell identical products "wholesale" (used loosely) to many retailers whereby the retailer has free reign to sell at whatever price is comfortable.
What the heck is falling off the bottom of your boat Capt Chris!
I believe that could be pieces of shrinkwrap on the fellow's boat in Saskatchewan. It was his new Starcraft.
Brand new 998. Jack plate mounted transducer.. I have to turn the sensitivity up to 20. Or my images are so dark I can't read It. Transducer is clear of obstruction
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/11/13 10:12 PM
Brand new 998. Jack plate mounted transducer.. I have to turn the sensitivity up to 20. Or my images are so dark I can't read It. Transducer is clear of obstruction
Is it that way when you are sitting still?
Yes sir.. I checked the voltage to head unit that's ok.. Ive tilted the duce up and down to no avail.. 455khs. If I max out the sensitivity setting it looks ok. But if I try 12 its so dark I can't see it.. what gives..
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/11/13 11:22 PM
Yes sir.. I checked the voltage to head unit that's ok.. Ive tilted the duce up and down to no avail.. 455khs. If I max out the sensitivity setting it looks ok. But if I try 12 its so dark I can't see it.. what gives..
Message sent
Posted By: jscroggins
Re: Humminbird - 03/12/13 02:05 AM
Is there a way to make the GPS on my 998 run vertical instead of horizontal??
Only way is set to North Reference and when you run east/west it will scroll side to side.
Posted By: Ranger Z21
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/13 02:56 PM
Will a new 1198 utilize the same connections as a 997. Wanted to upgrade and just wondering if I can use the cables already there and just swap out units.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/13 03:19 PM
Yes, but if you presently have the GR16 GPS antenna, you will want to change to the one that comes with the 1198c SI.
Posted By: Ranger Z21
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/13 05:04 PM
What is the reason for that
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/13 06:15 PM
What is the reason for that
ACCURACY
Posted By: J-SPENCER
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/14/13 06:06 PM
Question for all you Humminbird guys........I recently installed a 858c HD DI on the bow of my boat along with a Interlink to connect it to the 997 on the console. I took it out on Tuesday, dropped the trolling motor in the water and started adjusting the sensitivity and a few other settings
Everything worked great while I was in the marina. I pulled up and moved areas. When I dropped the trolling motor back down everthing worked great for about 30 seconds. It started getting crazy diagonal lines and then went blank. The sonar will not read the bottom. It shows the depth and will show a slight line if I crank the sensitivity up to 20. The down imaging works, but is not very clear. Interlink and all functions work. I've tried resetting it back to factory defaults with no change.
I've checked all my connections and made sure the cable wasnt pinched. Everything looks good. I'm thinking the transducer is bad. Any thoughts ?????
Are you powered direct to the starting battery?
Posted By: J-SPENCER
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/15/13 01:33 PM
I'm not sure. I used the power and ground from the Lowrance graph that was factory installed. I'm gonna install both of the choker cables today and see what it does
Posted By: Rhino Ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/15/13 07:59 PM
Why does triplog keep showing that boat is moving when I'm sitting in the parking lot? Does it with both 998 and 997 on same power cord.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/15/13 11:41 PM
I didnt think the new dedicated down imaging units and the Si units were compatable for interlink .???
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 01:47 AM
I didnt think the new dedicated down imaging units and the Si units were compatable for interlink .???
The 700, 800, 900, and 1100 series units in all technologies are INTERLINK compatable.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 01:49 AM
Why does triplog keep showing that boat is moving when I'm sitting in the parking lot? Does it with both 998 and 997 on same power cord.
The satellites are moving.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 04:35 AM
I didnt think the new dedicated down imaging units and the Si units were compatable for interlink .???
The 700, 800, 900, and 1100 series units in all technologies are INTERLINK compatable.
ok thanks are they also ethernet compatible?
I'm not sure. I used the power and ground from the Lowrance graph that was factory installed. I'm gonna install both of the choker cables today and see what it does
If the unit is not getting proper voltage and current it will not provide ample power supply. I would wire direct to the cranking battery with 14 Gauge Wire, solder the Connections and use a 3amp Blade Type Fuse.
Posted By: Rhino Ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 01:34 PM
Wayne P., Then the triplog isn't very accurate if the satalites keep moving. I know I traveled about 6-7 miles on one trip, and it showed 19 miles at end of day.
Why does triplog keep showing that boat is moving when I'm sitting in the parking lot? Does it with both 998 and 997 on same power cord.
4 Times a Second Humminbird Plots the Position from what the satellites are telling the GPS Receiver it's distance from the position of the satellite. the Satelites are in fixed positions around the world as the world spins knowing where each satellite is the GPS Receiver can calculate the postion. A consumer grade GPS Receiver does not use fee based correctionial signals but are accuracte within a few meters. Humminbird GPS REceivers are within 2.5Meter Accuracy in a sationary position over a 24 hour peroid as seen by the green dots in this image. Each Green Dot is a Trackplot of the GPS Reading. Because consumer grade GPS does not cost anything there is a margin of error the 2.5 meters. So when the trackplots are not exactly on top of each other the unit calculates that the position is moving because the distance between the trackplots. Humminbird's new AS-GPS and AS-GPS HS are much more accurate in correcting the location and understanding the boat is not moving.
I didnt think the new dedicated down imaging units and the Si units were compatable for interlink .???
The 700, 800, 900, and 1100 series units in all technologies are INTERLINK compatable.
ok thanks are they also ethernet compatible?
Yes you can connect any two Ethernet Compatible Models together. But the only way to share sonar data is they must be compatible technology. For Example an 858ci HD DI and a 998c HD cannot share transducer data but can share GPS Data, GPS REceiver, Temperature Probes, Compatible Ethernet Accessories like iPilot Link can be shared.
I talked to HB support last week and they said the HD units are Ethernet compatible
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 03:10 PM
Some units that don't have HD in their model number are Ethernet capable too:
1198c SI Combo
1158c HD Combo
1158c Combo
1197c SI Combo
1157c Combo
998c SI Combo
958c DI Combo
958c Combo
898c SI Combo
958c DI Combo
858c Combo.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/13 08:39 PM
es you can connect any two Ethernet Compatible Models together. But the only way to share sonar data is they must be compatible technology. For Example an 858ci HD DI and a 998c HD cannot share transducer data but can share GPS Data, GPS REceiver, Temperature Probes, Compatible Ethernet Accessories like iPilot Link can be shared.
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so if this is the case, interlinking them or etherneting two units of different technology would not let you share sonar data .. correct??
Posted By: dfd51
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/17/13 12:08 AM
Just got my HB 589 in from Shut-up-and-fish and couldn't be happier. Great price!! One question; Should I register the unit and then download any newer software version or will it come with the latest software already on it?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/17/13 01:50 AM
Just got my HB 589 in from Shut-up-and-fish and couldn't be happier. Great price!! One question; Should I register the unit and then download any newer software version or will it come with the latest software already on it?
You didn't get a 589 since there is no such model.
Did you get a 598ci SI Combo?
You don't know how long that unit was in a distributer or dealer's stock from the day it was made. A software update can be released any time.
You can check what the unit has with the software than will be in your account. READ the manual.
You should register the unit which creates an account that Humminbird puts software updates and other software in.
Posted By: dfd51
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/17/13 02:02 AM
Yes you are correct. 598 not 589. Thanks for the info.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/17/13 02:33 AM
898 (Version 6.610)
Release Date: 03/15/2013
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/17/13 02:50 AM
closeout sale on website cheap hats 7 bucks free shipping
http://store.humminbird.com/products/557403/Caps
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/22/13 02:38 AM
Hey i have a question, is there any type of screen treatment to keep water spots off the screens of my 998 and 1198? letting a paper towel soaked with a vinager based cleaner does work but its getting to be a pain in the rear!
Hey i have a question, is there any type of screen treatment to keep water spots off the screens of my 998 and 1198? letting a paper towel soaked with a vinager based cleaner does work but its getting to be a pain in the rear!
The film will keep the water spots from penetrating the screen.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/23/13 01:00 PM
I have a nushield on both 1198s and love them. They do create a reflection that some people don't like, but I think that they make the colors pop on the display.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/24/13 02:04 AM
has anyone transported thier boat with the humminbird white protective covers on the unit? wondering if they will stay on, or fly off.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/24/13 04:13 AM
cool thanks.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/25/13 11:25 PM
i was hoping that there is some kind of spray to keep water spots off.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/13 02:36 AM
I wonder if rain x would work.
I would not recommend Rain X
That stuff is hard on plastic, rubber and many other materials.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/13 10:59 PM
thanks for clearing that up.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/13 01:35 AM
I believe the screen is glass am i correct?
Glass Screen with Protective Coating...you don't want to use a non-approved chemical that would eat the protective coating away.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/13 01:01 AM
Protective coating??? if its so protective i wonder why it water spots so bad?
The PRotective coating reduce glare on the screen. Water spots are due to the minerals in water and if they dry the mineral deposits are left. Best think it to keep them cleaned off during the day especially when it gets hot so the minerals don't crystalize.
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/13 05:28 AM
i think im going to try giving them a quick cleaning every time i get off the lake instead of waiting a few days, thanks Doug for telling me the special coating is for the glare, i was thinking it was for keeping the spots off.
Posted By: rxkid2001
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/29/13 01:20 AM
Wave away works well at removing them.
Posted By: jcarring99
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/13 05:45 PM
Windex with vinegar?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/13 06:32 PM
Posted By: zoomtx
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/01/13 03:51 AM
I been using Kroger brand glass cleaner that has vinegar in it, maybe it doesn't work as good as name brand?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/01/13 07:29 PM
I been using Kroger brand glass cleaner that has vinegar in it, maybe it doesn't work as good as name brand?
The Windex is what is RECOMMENDED by Humminbird.
I see no reason to settle for less for my equipment.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/02/13 06:12 PM
the windex with vinegar is surprising to me to be safe, vinegar is very acidic. most glass cleaners also contain ammonia.
Ammonia will for sure remove the protective coating. Do not use products that contain ammonia.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 04:43 AM
I use a product called MONSTER SCREEN CLEAN. It is a safe alchohol free formula Ideal for cleaning LED, LCD, AND PLASMA SCREENS. contains de ionized water and proprietary polymers. removes water spots very easily, and doesnt let fingerprint oil stick to screen easily, (why people must touch your screen is beyond me but they do,, ha) a small bottle goes a long way. a couple squirts on a lint free cloth, then wipe screen, dont spray on screen.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 04:44 AM
The main ingredient in straight WINDEX is ammonia.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 12:27 PM
I use a product called MONSTER SCREEN CLEAN. It is a safe alchohol free formula Ideal for cleaning LED, LCD, AND PLASMA SCREENS. contains de ionized water and proprietary polymers. removes water spots very easily, and doesnt let fingerprint oil stick to screen easily, (why people must touch your screen is beyond me but they do,, ha) a small bottle goes a long way. a couple squirts on a lint free cloth, then wipe screen, dont spray on screen.
Is it recommended for screens that have an anti-glare coating like sonar screens have?
That is why Windex MultiSurface with Vinegar is recommend product because it is Ammonia Free product:
http://www.windex.com/en-US/Products/Pages/multi-surface-vinegar.aspxIt's safe for surfaces with protective coatings
Posted By: BrandoA
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 03:19 PM
Thanks Doug
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 03:30 PM
vinegar is a strange liquid. A mild acid, we used to rub it on exposed metal ductwork so it would not sweat in commercial buildings. also many painters wipe down aluminum boats and other things before they paint them, to temporarily stop the oxidation processes. chefs use it to tendaerize meat, now humminbird uses it for fishfinders,,
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 03:32 PM
I use a product called MONSTER SCREEN CLEAN. It is a safe alchohol free formula Ideal for cleaning LED, LCD, AND PLASMA SCREENS. contains de ionized water and proprietary polymers. removes water spots very easily, and doesnt let fingerprint oil stick to screen easily, (why people must touch your screen is beyond me but they do,, ha) a small bottle goes a long way. a couple squirts on a lint free cloth, then wipe screen, dont spray on screen.
Is it recommended for screens that have an anti-glare coating like sonar screens have?
according to thier website yes
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Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/03/13 03:33 PM
""""Ammonia- and alcohol-free formula won't harm delicate screen coatings"""""
It's not straight vinegar but Vinegar is part of the ingredients
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/04/13 03:13 PM
yes, probably a very mild formula. as long as it does the job, and doesnt damage the screen thats what counts.
Posted By: will1979iam
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/11/13 06:18 PM
Hello all, please help if you can. My 998 is cutting off on me when I am on plane across the lake. It just started doing it my last 3 trips. I can troll around just fine but when I crank her up and hit big water it shuts off... i restart it....good for about 30 seconds and shuts off again. Do you think surge or a short. My buddy said low battery but the battery is charged before each trip. I run it on my cranking battery. The wiring looks ok and if it was a surge I think the fuse would blow.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird - 04/12/13 12:48 AM
I have two questions. I run a 798 HD SI at the console and a 788 HD DI on the bow.What do I need to link these two together so they can share way points? Second,What size SD card is recomended to use in these,mainly for the software upgrades but also to store screen pics on?Thanks for any advice.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/12/13 01:38 AM
Hello all, please help if you can. My 998 is cutting off on me when I am on plane across the lake. It just started doing it my last 3 trips. I can troll around just fine but when I crank her up and hit big water it shuts off... i restart it....good for about 30 seconds and shuts off again. Do you think surge or a short. My buddy said low battery but the battery is charged before each trip. I run it on my cranking battery. The wiring looks ok and if it was a surge I think the fuse would blow.
sounds like the movement of the unit is causing a bad connection. check your pin connectors where they go into the unit and make sure nothing is bent, overenlarged pin holes, corrosion , ect. intermittent electrical problems are almost always bad connections.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird - 04/12/13 01:43 AM
2 to 6 gig SD cards seem to work best with the units. dont get the mmc high capacity sd card, just a regular SD card.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/12/13 01:46 AM
I have two questions. I run a 798 HD SI at the console and a 788 HD DI on the bow.What do I need to link these two together so they can share way points? Second,What size SD card is recomended to use in these,mainly for the software upgrades but also to store screen pics on?Thanks for any advice.
The BEST connection is Ethernet. You would need an Ethernet adaptor (AS EC QDE) for each unit plus the cable.
A 2 GB is plenty large for updates--even a 128MB is plenty large if you can find one that small. For screen shots, and recordings, a 4GB up to 32 GB is OK--an 8 GB holds a lot of data and would be a good compromise.
You would want to do updates on a separate card than for other functions.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird - 04/12/13 06:43 PM
Thankyou guys! Im learning lol!
Posted By: DuctsZX250
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/13 09:30 PM
Am I right with my readings on this one?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/13 11:00 PM
Am I right with my readings on this one?
Good analysis, I agree.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/13 03:15 AM
I agree. you have that unit dialed in very good!! if you look on the left side, you will see a slight representation of the boat also, thats because you kind of split it right almost down the middle, so that why thats there.
Posted By: DuctsZX250
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/13 03:42 AM
Thanks guys...still having a hard time understanding what I am seeing while on the water and trying to figure out where it is in relationship to my boat.
It is much easier to read when I can get it uploaded to my computer.
I have 998. I can't figure out why creeks and roadbeds will not show up. I have lakemaster and navronics. Neither one will show up?
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/13 09:29 PM
Noise issues with 597ci HD DI.
I have a 597 on my kayak. It is the only piece of electronics on the kayak. I shoot through the hull using a small well inside the hull. I seem to get vertical noise on my display any time there is a boat within several hundred yards or so of me. Here is an example:
If I am all alone the noise is not there. Any suggestions on how I might make my situation better?
For anyone who is interested, the picture is from the Willamette river in Oregon. The fish at the bottom of the picture are sturgeon. I am not positive what the suspended fish are.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/13 12:07 AM
what is your noise filter set at?
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/13 01:18 AM
Might be air under the transducer if you have it epoxied and doing the shoot through hull.
Turn up the Noise Filter in the Sonar Master Menu will help reduce cross talk.
Posted By: TriumphD
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/13 01:28 PM
Is there somewhere I can look for common settings? I just got a 998HD SI for my boat and want to get it dialed in properly.
Posted By: TriumphD
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/13 01:52 PM
Thanks Doug!
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/13 03:37 PM
Thanks guys. I will play with the noise filter. It is presently set to the default value. I did not know that feature existed.
Hey SaltyDawg88, that is a good point but I know I don't have air under the transducer because of the way it is mounted. The transducer is in the hull of my kayak and sits in a small well of water. There is nothing but water between the xducer and the hull.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/13 01:50 PM
Anyway to save my current settings so I can reload them after an update?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/13 02:34 PM
Anyway to save my current settings so I can reload them after an update?
No, not with any menu selections.
Posted By: TreeBass
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/13 02:58 PM
thanks
Just bought a new boat and it has a 958 up front and a 958C at the console. Prior rig had Lowrance units so I am going thru my learning curve and struggling with the console unit. I can not get the sonar to come up. The manual says the unit automatically defaults to sonar on start up, but this one does not. What am I missing?
Tom
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/13 02:31 AM
Both are 958c, are there any other letters in the model names?
The "c" means it has a color display.
The sonar views won't display unless there is a transducer connected.
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/13 02:42 AM
I have a 788CI HD DI COMBO with a lake master chip. I am having trouble with the maps loading, and the sonar display is showing in large pixels.
Map - At certain levels the maps load fine, but at others all I get is a blank white screen. Also I have my brush piles marked with a yellow exclamation point symbol, and they only show up as such about half the time.
Sonar - The sonar is showing up in larger pixels than I think it should. to pixelated for an HD unit. and worse than the 778C HD I have mounted right beside it.
I should say I sent the unit and card to Humminbird and all they did was a soft reset. stating they could not find anything wrong.
I have always heard ppl say how great customer service for the humminbird product line is, but at this time I'm not feeling it.
Has anybody else had any similar problems?
Doug do you have any suggestions for me. Really need some help with this.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/13 01:07 PM
I have a 788CI HD DI COMBO with a lake master chip. I am having trouble with the maps loading, and the sonar display is showing in large pixels.
Map - At certain levels the maps load fine, but at others all I get is a blank white screen. Also I have my brush piles marked with a yellow exclamation point symbol, and they only show up as such about half the time.
Sonar - The sonar is showing up in larger pixels than I think it should. to pixelated for an HD unit. and worse than the 778C HD I have mounted right beside it.
I should say I sent the unit and card to Humminbird and all they did was a soft reset. stating they could not find anything wrong.
I have always heard ppl say how great customer service for the humminbird product line is, but at this time I'm not feeling it.
Has anybody else had any similar problems?
Doug do you have any suggestions for me. Really need some help with this.
Have you verified that the unit is getting the proper voltage while it is operating?
Posted By: Boone921
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/13 02:49 PM
no I have not, I will check that. Thank you Wayne
I am asuming that the proper voltage would be 12, is this correct?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/13 03:20 PM
Yes, close to that.
Posted By: pdxfisher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/09/13 04:10 PM
Checking back in on the noise issue with my 597ci HD DI. Increasing the noise filter mostly helps, but I still get some lines when a boat is nearby even with the noise filter cranked way up.
The problem is worse with the 200kHz sonar than the 455kHz sonar and does not appear on the DI.
I checked the voltage and I start the day at 12.3V and end it at about 11.9V.
This is in a kayak and the sonar is the only electrical item I have.
Posted By: Rhino Ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/13/13 08:48 PM
I have a 1198 and 998 that I would like to interlink. Besides the interlink itself, what do I need to order? Would like to be able to read depth at speed and was told there is a "Y" cable that needs to be purchased with a thru the hull puck. Any info?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/13/13 09:20 PM
You would want to use Ethernet instead of INTERLINK.
It is more trouble free, faster, allows for sharing accessories, and it takes a single cable of suitable length (no hardware box and dual cables).
There is the AS SIDB Y cable to split off the 83/200 kHz from the Side Imaging transducer and connect a Dual Beam transducer in its place.
Most use the XP 9 20 for shoot-thru in a suitable hull. With pre-testing and a proper installation it will perform at high speed.
On the 998 SI, how can I move the readouts to the bottom instead of them being on the left side???
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/14/13 11:32 PM
You cannot move the readouts.
You can turn off the left side readouts in the SI view only if you have software later than about June 2012. That setting is in the Sonar menu. You cannot change the Temp or Depth numbers with that setting.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/15/13 12:28 AM
I have a 1198 and 998 that I would like to interlink. Besides the interlink itself, what do I need to order? Would like to be able to read depth at speed and was told there is a "Y" cable that needs to be purchased with a thru the hull puck. Any info?
if your set up follows suit, your 2 d images will suffer greatly, everyone I have seen with that set up has poor 2 d returns. the fish ID symbol function doesnt work correctly either. I can understand the reason for wanting to know the depth you are running in, but cant you just look at your map card and see the depth? If your unsure of how deep it is.. do u really want to be running thru it in the first place?
not trying to be critical here. just trying to understand .
why do you need to hammer down, and run around the lake seeing how deep it is. ?
Lots of good info in here, thanks!
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/17/13 05:39 PM
DO NOT use the US2 for a 587ci HD DI. You can damage the unit since the transmitter for DI will not have a crystal attached that it can work with and can burn out the transmitter. You need to install a DI transducer to the trolling motor or select a non-di unit to use with the US2 transducer since it is only capable of providing 2D Sonar Data.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/19/13 01:10 AM
I have a 1198 and 998 that I would like to interlink. Besides the interlink itself, what do I need to order? Would like to be able to read depth at speed and was told there is a "Y" cable that needs to be purchased with a thru the hull puck. Any info?
if your set up follows suit, your 2 d images will suffer greatly, everyone I have seen with that set up has poor 2 d returns. the fish ID symbol function doesnt work correctly either. I can understand the reason for wanting to know the depth you are running in, but cant you just look at your map card and see the depth? If your unsure of how deep it is.. do u really want to be running thru it in the first place?
not trying to be critical here. just trying to understand .
why do you need to hammer down, and run around the lake seeing how deep it is. ?
If you test location and find the best location very minimal if any sonar is lost when shooting thru fiberglass. Best way to test is to add a couple inches of water to the bilge build a small sand bag with a ziploc and go to the lake and test different locations to find the area of best returns. You don't want to guess and shot thru an area with an air void or delamination or that have turbulence under it this would effect sonar readings. I've personally run this way since 2003 and have seen little if any loss of performance.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/19/13 02:09 PM
I have recently just begun having a problem with my 1198 at the console losing bottom on mid-high speed runs. My setup is as follows: two 1198s connected by ethernet, with separate gps antennae, and y cable for transducers for the console unit, with the si/di transducer mounted on the hull, and the shoot thru hull transducer inside sump area of my Ranger Z521, installed at Ranger factory. The boat and units are three years old and have always read fine up until now for showing bottom depth and readout correctly on the 2d view. As Doug has suggested, for runs across the lake, i use the split screen view of map and 2d sonar. Does it matter if the 2d is in clear mode or max mode in regards to readouts at high speed? What are some possible causes for the readout to be intermittenly failing all of a sudden on digital and 2d readout when it has always worked fine in the past three years? Shoot thru hull transducer going out?
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/19/13 06:06 PM
have u made any changes to your boat that ould change anything, like power pole, swim platform, jackplate , ect?
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/19/13 08:18 PM
Nope.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/19/13 11:42 PM
I have recently just begun having a problem with my 1198 at the console losing bottom on mid-high speed runs. My setup is as follows: two 1198s connected by ethernet, with separate gps antennae, and y cable for transducers for the console unit, with the si/di transducer mounted on the hull, and the shoot thru hull transducer inside sump area of my Ranger Z521, installed at Ranger factory. The boat and units are three years old and have always read fine up until now for showing bottom depth and readout correctly on the 2d view. As Doug has suggested, for runs across the lake, i use the split screen view of map and 2d sonar. Does it matter if the 2d is in clear mode or max mode in regards to readouts at high speed? What are some possible causes for the readout to be intermittenly failing all of a sudden on digital and 2d readout when it has always worked fine in the past three years? Shoot thru hull transducer going out?
Transducers do go bad and they do come loose from the hull due to hull flexing.
Check to see if it has come loose from the hull.
It is feels solid, put some water in the hull to see it that will fill in any void between the transducer face and hull to see if that is the issue.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/20/13 12:28 AM
Thanks Wayne. My very first boat mechanic always said to "always look for the simplest solution first" when trying to fix a problem. My thru the hull transducer is not going to be easy to get to, as above it are four 31 series heavy batteries with wires everywhere. Since it still may be under extended warranty, i am going to give my ASD a shout out to trace this. Thanks.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/21/13 12:59 PM
NEW VIDEO: Understanding the Humminbird AS SI DB Y and how it works to separate the 2D Readings out of the Side Imaging Transducer:
http://youtu.be/BCuCOPhyGZs
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/22/13 08:29 PM
Doug
My set up has been working flawlessly for almost three years. Does it matter for high speed runs whether i use Max mode or clear mode to maintain good bottom reading? What about frequency or transducer settings?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/22/13 10:04 PM
Switchfire does not change for High Speed. But running 200kHz only will hold bottom better in aerated conditions than 83kHz or combines 200/83kHz since it haa a wider coverage increases the odds of reading aeration or turbulence in the water and can impact high speed sonar transmission and reception.
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/23/13 11:41 PM
Not sure where to start looking? I run a 798ci SI on the console and just recently installed a 788 HD DI on the bow.First time on the water this year and Im getting a low voltage pop up on the 798.The 788 is not.I installed two new optima 31M's also.Both units are powered off the same battery.Any suggestions?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/24/13 01:15 PM
Did you run individual wires driect from each unit to the battery? Solder Connections and I recommend 14 Gauge Wire. Or did you use existing boat wiring?
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/24/13 04:37 PM
Doug I ran the 798 direct to battery,all joint soldered and shrink wrapped.The 788 off of the power side of the bilge and aerator switch panel on the bow.The 798 has been on the boat for about two years.I was just wondering if the terminals in the mount could have some corrosion build up on them and how would one go about cleaning it?The 788 came with a slip cover for the mount for use when the unit was not plugged in,the 798 did not.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/25/13 04:44 PM
Pins are Gold Plated to Resist Corrosion. I would double check the power connections. Also do you have the Alarm Set in the Master Menu under Alarms higher than the 788c? If not call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they can help for sure
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/27/13 06:53 PM
I don't know about the alarm settings.Thanks,I'll check that.I appreciate the help!
Posted By: Rhino Ranger
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/30/13 06:34 PM
Want to purchase a minnkota 101 w/built in transducer. What do I need to order to hook it up to 998?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/30/13 09:48 PM
Want to purchase a minnkota 101 w/built in transducer. What do I need to order to hook it up to 998?
Are you planning on connecting the US2 to the unit and not have SI or DI?
Posted By: shut-up-and-fish
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 05/31/13 03:54 AM
Want to purchase a minnkota 101 w/built in transducer. What do I need to order to hook it up to 998?
Are you getting the i-Pilot or i-Pilot Link?
Or just a 101 with the US2?
The US2 "built-in transducer" only achieves sonar and not side/down image.
Give me a call and I can discuss all the options available. I can also give you a quote on the items as well. If you have not already selected who you are buying from I can assist you there as well....
David @ shut-up-and-fish
Posted By: rockhopper
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/03/13 02:14 AM
I have an 898 SI and have used up pretty much all the internal memory with waypoints. What's the best way to take those from the unit to my pc and be able to choose which ones will go back to the unit via sd card with out actually typing in the coordinates?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/03/13 01:52 PM
You should have downloaded and installed HumminbirdPC from your Humminbird account IF you have a PC.
You Export the waypoint library to a SD card and transfer the data to the PC program. HumminbirdPC is a waypoint management software.
Posted By: brennansgrandpa
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/05/13 01:49 AM
Doug - I have 2 958's on my boat and the console unit is hard to boot up and now stuck in the startup screen. Any suggestions?
Tom
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/05/13 03:04 AM
il try to help ;; what exactly do you mean when u say its hard to boot up? do you have to keep pressing the button? sometimes it takes longer for a unit to boot up than other times, if it is processing something, and if you keep jamming the button, the unit can lock up. Try disconnecting the power from the unit completely, then rehook the power, then press the power button ONE time, then see what it does.
Other than that you likely have a voltage problem, its shutting down immediately because of low voltage. unplug it, and check the pin connectors that power the unit. and see what the voltage is.
Posted By: brennansgrandpa
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/06/13 01:19 AM
Sometimes when I push the start button nothing happens. If I push and hold the button for several seconds it will start up. Last weekend I shut it down, and when I went to start it again the start up screen came up and it got stuck there.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/06/13 04:48 PM
, a quick push usually doesnt do it, push and hold for abt 2 seconds but no longer. its not like high speed internet give it a chance to get going.
Posted By: brennansgrandpa
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/06/13 11:47 PM
thanks, will give it a try this weekend
Posted By: 1tex
Re: Humminbird SONAR, How to Enter Coordinates - 06/09/13 05:20 AM
Pins are Gold Plated to Resist Corrosion. I would double check the power connections. Also do you have the Alarm Set in the Master Menu under Alarms higher than the 788c? If not call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they can help for sure
Thanks Doug,this solved my problem.I didn't know the alarm setting was adjustable lol.It was set higher then the 788! Thanks again for your help.
Posted By: Alan Perrin
Side Imaging problem - 06/09/13 11:40 PM
1197 - Side imaging & downscreen will not show just a solid black screen. Everything else works, Maps & sonar. The select readout box will not show when selecting depth . hooked up new transducer same problem.
Unit bad? Suggestions? worked yesterday
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Side Imaging problem - 06/10/13 01:40 AM
what is the voltage reading at the unit, ? did u do the self test upon start up, or try restoring factory defaults yet?
Posted By: soggybottom
Re: Side Imaging problem - 06/11/13 07:33 PM
need some help, got a new 570DI and am getting all kinds of interference. cant figure out what is causing it or what can be done. I have a separate battery that powers unit under console.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Side Imaging problem - 06/12/13 12:36 AM
need some help, got a new 570DI and am getting all kinds of interference. cant figure out what is causing it or what can be done. I have a separate battery that powers unit under console.
Where is the transducer installed ???
1197 - Side imaging & downscreen will not show just a solid black screen. Everything else works, Maps & sonar. The select readout box will not show when selecting depth . hooked up new transducer same problem.
Unit bad? Suggestions? worked yesterday
Are you testing in the water? If not sounds like it's not getting sonar returns. You have only one transducer or SI transducer with Y Cable and seperate 2d transducer
need some help, got a new 570DI and am getting all kinds of interference. cant figure out what is causing it or what can be done. I have a separate battery that powers unit under console.
Call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468 they are the best help for RF Noise
I use mquires car spay wax. Just a dab buffed in with a micro fiber cloth. Buff lightly till a shine. It will repel water and fill the pores of glass and keep the water stains away. Works well for me.
Posted By: Gonzalezlg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/13 02:11 AM
I have a 798 hd combo. I broke the transducer bracket and scuffed it up. Replaced the bracket and everything work except my right side imagining is dark. I know it's not my unit cause I put it on my buddies boat an worked fine. Guess I just need a second opinion.
Sounds like the RH element might have gotten damaged or the wiring for the RH Element. Sounds liek you need a new transducer with your cross testing already done.
Posted By: Gonzalezlg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/05/13 02:50 AM
That's what I was afraid off, thanks.
Posted By: luckywiggel
Re: Humminbird - 07/08/13 02:30 AM
Thank you for this, learning a lot
Posted By: Clint W.
Re: Humminbird - 07/13/13 04:23 PM
When I bought my CC boat a few months ago, I put an 898 in my console. I've decided that it was too small for the chart/sounder combo, so I purchased and installed an 1198 in it's place. I want to move the 898 to the bow and install the transducer on the trolling motor (Ipilot). Is it possible to link the two, to enable the front one to share the GPS antenna and the Navionics/Lake Master cards? Also, will it be possible for both units differentiate between the bow and stern HD/DI transducers and the high speed through hull transducer? Doug, I viewed your how to on youtube for installing the transducer on an Ipilot, very helpful.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/13/13 04:58 PM
When I bought my CC boat a few months ago, I put an 898 in my console. I've decided that it was too small for the chart/sounder combo, so I purchased and installed an 1198 in it's place. I want to move the 898 to the bow and install the transducer on the trolling motor (Ipilot). Is it possible to link the two, to enable the front one to share the GPS antenna and the Navionics/Lake Master cards? Also, will it be possible for both units differentiate between the bow and stern HD/DI transducers and the high speed through hull transducer? Doug, I viewed your how to on youtube for installing the transducer on an Ipilot, very helpful.
Yes for sharing accessories with Ethernet.
No for sharing mapping with any connection.
Yes for choosing either the bow or transom transducers.
No for separating the shoot-thru and SI hook up. They are the same as just the SI transducer by itself.
Posted By: Clint W.
Re: Humminbird - 07/14/13 11:24 AM
When I bought my CC boat a few months ago, I put an 898 in my console. I've decided that it was too small for the chart/sounder combo, so I purchased and installed an 1198 in it's place. I want to move the 898 to the bow and install the transducer on the trolling motor (Ipilot). Is it possible to link the two, to enable the front one to share the GPS antenna and the Navionics/Lake Master cards? Also, will it be possible for both units differentiate between the bow and stern HD/DI transducers and the high speed through hull transducer? Doug, I viewed your how to on youtube for installing the transducer on an Ipilot, very helpful.
Yes for sharing accessories with Ethernet.
No for sharing mapping with any connection.
Yes for choosing either the bow or transom transducers.
No for separating the shoot-thru and SI hook up. They are the same as just the SI transducer by itself.
Thanks for the info. GTN69
Doug,
Needing help.. I just bought a Skeeter 21I class. Both of the Hummingbirds are linked.. Wanting to add a 1198 on a ram mount for side imaging. Can we link all 3 ?? Do i need a seperate side imaging tranducer??
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 11:20 AM
Doug,
Needing help.. I just bought a Skeeter 21I class. Both of the Hummingbirds are linked.. Wanting to add a 1198 on a ram mount for side imaging. Can we link all 3 ?? Do i need a seperate side imaging tranducer??
What are the other two units?
Are they connected now and with what connection?
Only the Ethernet connection will allow sharing accessories. Only Ethernet can be used for more than 2 units.
All the units would have to be Ethernet capable.
Only Side Imaging units can display Side Imaging and only a Side Imaging transducer has the crystals for producing the images for Side Imaging.
Posted By: BVF_LoP_Guide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 12:32 PM
My 788 hd Di. Has issues, the unit keeps dropping the gps signal it will work fine for an hour or two . A screen will pop up stating that no GPS IS CONNECTED. I have to turn it off wait about 5 mins and it will work again for a little while then repeat... What can I do! I love my birds but I'm so pissed right now. The amount of money you spend on electronics should minimize the frustrations!
Posted By: BVF_LoP_Guide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 12:52 PM
My 788 hd Di. Has issues, the unit keeps dropping the gps signal it will work fine for an hour or two . A screen will pop up stating that no GPS IS CONNECTED. I have to turn it off wait about 5 mins and it will work again for a little while then repeat... What can I do! I love my birds but I'm so pissed right now. The amount of money you spend on electronics should minimize the frustrations!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 02:14 PM
My 788 hd Di. Has issues, the unit keeps dropping the gps signal it will work fine for an hour or two . A screen will pop up stating that no GPS IS CONNECTED. I have to turn it off wait about 5 mins and it will work again for a little while then repeat... What can I do! I love my birds but I'm so pissed right now. The amount of money you spend on electronics should minimize the frustrations!
Have you called Humminbird Customer Sevice?
You could have a faultly GPS receiver--stuff happens.
A Lamborghini can get a flat tire.
I have the 998 in the console and the 898 on the bow. Both are linked together.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 03:06 PM
I have the 998 in the console and the 898 on the bow. Both are linked together.
Linked with what?
I have the Ethernet connection linking the 998 to the 898.
I was wondering if I would be able to hook the 1198 up and share off the same SI transducer??
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 08:34 PM
I have the Ethernet connection linking the 998 to the 898.
I was wondering if I would be able to hook the 1198 up and share off the same SI transducer??
Yes, with Ethernet you can choose what transducer to use with any of the three.
The Ethernet switch lets you connect multiple displays and accessories to share. No limit as to the number. Add as many switches as you want. You get 5 connections per switch.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/13 08:43 PM
I have the Ethernet connection linking the 998 to the 898.
I was wondering if I would be able to hook the 1198 up and share off the same SI transducer??
Yes, with Ethernet you can choose what transducer to use with any of the three.
The Ethernet switch lets you connect multiple displays and accessories to share. No limit as to the number. Add as many switches as you want. You get 5 connections per switch.
Posted By: zoom48
Re: Humminbird GPS Receiver - 07/24/13 02:43 AM
Doug
I have an 898 and I'm replacing it with a 998. Do I have to swap GPS Receivers or are they the same?
Thanks
Depends on which receiver. Either will work with the older GR50 or the new AS-GPR receiver that comes with the new 2013 models. Your choice if you want to change if out to the latest hardware or use the existing GR50. Either will work.
Posted By: proudveteran74
Re: Humminbird GPS Receiver - 07/24/13 09:43 AM
I have finally encountered my first problem with my hummingbird 898. Went fishing this Monday mornin and NO mapping would come up at all. I am still a novice with this unit so it very well could be something I'm missing. I didn't anything different than I normally do. I looked at the GPS puck and wiring, it looked ok, I pulled the plug out made sure it was clean and re inserted it. Still nothing. When I clicked the view button to get to a map screen it said "No image found". I noticed there was what looked like an accessory diagnostic screen which I've never seen before and it said everything was disconnected???!
Posted By: Redtide00
Re: Humminbird GPS Receiver - 07/26/13 02:20 PM
Doug, I installed the Terrova IPilot and interlink and have linked everything (HB 958c DI - 998c SI) through a 5 port ethernet hub. Now I am seeing interference on my SI screen. I mounted the DI transducer on the Terrova. Could the interference be coming from cord being wound through the TM cord? If so, what can be done to lesson the interference?
I have finally encountered my first problem with my hummingbird 898. Went fishing this Monday mornin and NO mapping would come up at all. I am still a novice with this unit so it very well could be something I'm missing. I didn't anything different than I normally do. I looked at the GPS puck and wiring, it looked ok, I pulled the plug out made sure it was clean and re inserted it. Still nothing. When I clicked the view button to get to a map screen it said "No image found". I noticed there was what looked like an accessory diagnostic screen which I've never seen before and it said everything was disconnected???!
Check GPS Receiver Connection and cross test with another receiver if that doesn't help then it could be the receiver.
Doug, I installed the Terrova IPilot and interlink and have linked everything (HB 958c DI - 998c SI) through a 5 port ethernet hub. Now I am seeing interference on my SI screen. I mounted the DI transducer on the Terrova. Could the interference be coming from cord being wound through the TM cord? If so, what can be done to lesson the interference?
I would call HB Customer Service they are the best to work with RF Noise. Sometimes a Ferrite Choke will help kill RF Noise.
I just bought a 587ci HD from a gentleman, where can i buy a lake card for it.
Posted By: zoom48
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 02:32 AM
I u sed my new 998 today and on Down Image all I got was horizontal lines. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 01:08 PM
I have a 958c GPS in the bow with a integral trolling motor transducer in my Motorguide. Anytime I am using the trolling motor I get vertical lines on the graph. I can still make out the sonar image but the lines are annoying. Is this a transducer or 958c issue? Any suggestions for a quick fix?
Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 01:24 PM
I have a 958c GPS in the bow with a integral trolling motor transducer in my Motorguide. Anytime I am using the trolling motor I get vertical lines on the graph. I can still make out the sonar image but the lines are annoying. Is this a transducer or 958c issue? Any suggestions for a quick fix?
Thanks!
Your trolling motor needs to be fixed so the RFI doesn't bother the unit. Contact Humminbird Customer Service for assistance, it may or may not take several remedies.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 01:26 PM
I u sed my new 998 today and on Down Image all I got was horizontal lines. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Post a screen capture of those lines and a picture of your transducer installation.
I will guess that you have your SI transducer on a jackplate and are getting echos from it, but need a picture to confirm it.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 01:38 PM
I have a 958c GPS in the bow with a integral trolling motor transducer in my Motorguide. Anytime I am using the trolling motor I get vertical lines on the graph. I can still make out the sonar image but the lines are annoying. Is this a transducer or 958c issue? Any suggestions for a quick fix?
Thanks!
Your trolling motor needs to be fixed so the RFI doesn't bother the unit. Contact Humminbird Customer Service for assistance, it may or may not take several remedies.
Thanks for the help. Just to clarify, you are saying to call Hummingbird and not Motorguide? I know the trolling motor transducer has been replaced once already by the previous owner. I really appreciate the help sir.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 02:45 PM
Yes, call Humminbird. They can help you deal with RFI.
Your trolling motor is "broadcasting" on the same frequencies that the sonar unit is using. There are filtering, grounding, and blocking remedies that may work, You just have to go through the process of figuring what may work.
There may be no fix in your case other than replacing the motor or getting it rebuilt.
There is no one-size-fits-all remedy. Each installation is different.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 07/31/13 02:48 PM
Thank you very much.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/01/13 07:15 PM
I just bought a 587ci HD from a gentleman, where can i buy a lake card for it.
LakeMaster or Navionics are your options. Try your local HB dealer or Shut Up N Fish sells them too.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/05/13 02:51 AM
Could the interference I was describing above be caused by a messed up prop? I noticed my trolling motor prop had a crack and a pretty good chunk out of one of the blades. Could this be causing the interference with my sonar? I bought a new prop today but haven't replaced it yet. Thanks.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/07/13 04:03 PM
It could if the Harmonic Noise from the Prop is the same frquency that the Unit is listen for.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/10/13 01:38 PM
Doug, I just watched your dv tricks just posted on youtube regarding waypoints and using tm to navigate to waypoint. Is the heading sensor only available for ipilot? I have two 1198s connected with ethernet, and lakemaster mapping, and MN fortrex tm. Is heading sensor an update on software from HB? Explain what heading sensor is compared to current boat icon software....does it stay positioned correctly even with boat not in motion? I currently have two separate GPS receivers...each one being AS-GR50. What would the newer receivers do for me with my current setup? What model should i use for my current setup....without i pilot?
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/12/13 01:56 AM
New boat with new Hummingbird 998 at the console and 798 at the bow. 998 will not recognize the SI/DI rear transducer. Just black screen where it should be. 2D sonar is working fine. 998 will recognize the SI/DI transducer on the trolling motor. SI/DI transducer not listed in the available transducer list.
Ranger had the 798 GPS puck hooked in with a Y cable and had it plugged in wrong. Maybe they have the 998 transducer wrong??
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/13/13 02:22 AM
New boat with new Hummingbird 998 at the console and 798 at the bow. 998 will not recognize the SI/DI rear transducer. Just black screen where it should be. 2D sonar is working fine. 998 will recognize the SI/DI transducer on the trolling motor. SI/DI transducer not listed in the available transducer list.
Ranger had the 798 GPS puck hooked in with a Y cable and had it plugged in wrong. Maybe they have the 998 transducer wrong??
I would have the boat back at the dealer and let them fix it.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/13/13 04:20 AM
That's probably what's going to happen. Waiting on a top for the boat and will get that addressed at the same time.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/17/13 03:04 AM
They connected the Y Cable Backwards. This video will help you understand the AS SI DB Y Cable better
http://youtu.be/BCuCOPhyGZs
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/17/13 07:29 PM
Doug,
I took the 998 out of the console on Wednesday and checked all the connections. I didn't find a Y cable. I unplugged the cables and plugged them all back in. Went to the lake on Thursday morning. Turned the 998 on and everything was working.
I guess they didn't have the cables plugged in good enough or something.
My dealer had already sent in a warranty request to Ranger and a new transducer is in route. I have a new 1198 on order and will be hooking it up at the console as well via Ethernet. Hopefully it will all continue working.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 08/31/13 02:18 PM
Doug, I just watched your dv tricks just posted on youtube regarding waypoints and using tm to navigate to waypoint. Is the heading sensor only available for ipilot? I have two 1198s connected with ethernet, and lakemaster mapping, and MN fortrex tm. Is heading sensor an update on software from HB? Explain what heading sensor is compared to current boat icon software....does it stay positioned correctly even with boat not in motion? I currently have two separate GPS receivers...each one being AS-GR50. What would the newer receivers do for me with my current setup? What model should i use for my current setup....without i pilot?
The AS GPS HS is an optional accessory or come with a 360 Imaging System. But you can add to your network to get Heading Sensor to help in Slow Speed Navigation. Here is link to the Receiver:
http://store.humminbird.com/products/629922/AS_GPS_HS
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/08/13 02:30 AM
Hey Doug. I installed the HS GPS receiver. Why is my boat icon pointing one direction and the direction arrow pointing in another direction? It looks pretty weird. Is there some kind of adjustment to correct?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/09/13 05:59 PM
Were you drifting? The Heading Line tells direction the boat is moving with the AS GPS HS (Heading Sensor) but the boat could be pointed a different direction. Like a side wind. If you are defiantly going the same direction as the boat is headed you need to set the Direction Offset for the Heading Sensor Compass. Forgot the exact menu it's under but you can adjust to match the heading sensor with the direction of the boat is pointed.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/09/13 08:47 PM
The Heading Line was pointing in the direction I was running and the little boat was pointing off at a 45 degree angle away from the pointer. Looked like the boat was skidding sideways. This was either while on plan running or while idling around or on the trolling motor.
I'll have to try and find that menu and see if I can correct that.
Thanks
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/09/13 11:44 PM
Did you index the Receiver to the Front of the Boat when you installed? There is an arrow you need to line up and point forward.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/10/13 03:20 AM
Yes. The arrow is pointing to the front.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/10/13 07:20 PM
Is it mounted near the trolling motor? The Magnetic Field when Trolling Motor is stowed could effect the Electronic Compass of the Heading Sensor. I would give HB Customer Service a Call 800-633-1468
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 09/10/13 08:42 PM
No, it's mounted on the Starboard rear corner about as far away from anything metal as I can get it.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/13 08:59 PM
Called Hummingbird Select Support and they didn't have a clue. They want me to send them a picture via email so they can see it.
I'll get that done this week sometime.
Posted By: ChrisTexan
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/12/13 04:16 PM
Starboard is typically near the trolling batteries, do the cables to the trolling motor run up anywhere near the sensor? Even under the deck, they can interfere if closer than a foot or two (sounds like you have it farther than that, but doesn't hurt to take a look).
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/13/13 12:34 AM
My boat is a Ranger 619 VS and the batteries are mounted down in the floor about mid way of the boat. I'm sure there may be some cables running to the motor controls along that side, but on a boat there is going to be some kind of wires or cables running just about everywhere. I sent the pictures to Hummingbird this afternoon. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/13/13 12:38 AM
This is what it looks like. Notice the boat icon is 45 degrees off from the direction pointer.
Your making a turn in this image and that can happen with a heading sensor receiver. What does it look like when running straight.
Posted By: Tommie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/24/13 01:34 AM
Actually, it lines up with the pointer in a curve. I had just completed the turn and straightened out when I took these pics. I emailed the pics to Hummingbird Tech
support, but have not heard back from them.
Posted By: crope1
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/25/13 09:58 AM
long read,i've tried for several days now to update the the newest software to my pc,to download onto an sd card,etc.i'm able to locate the link under my documents,but when i go to click on the sd card symbol to update the info,my unit info is not there,but i can go in and add the other info such as my name address,and number.what am i doing wrong?! o yeah,i do have the humminbird pc downloaded.fyi i did look at a youtube video that explained it simple enough for me to grasp,but it was made a few years back,so maybe the process fro the newer units could be just a bit different? help! help! help!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/25/13 08:01 PM
long read,i've tried for several days now to update the the newest software to my pc,to download onto an sd card,etc.i'm able to locate the link under my documents,but when i go to click on the sd card symbol to update the info,my unit info is not there,but i can go in and add the other info such as my name address,and number.what am i doing wrong?! o yeah,i do have the humminbird pc downloaded.fyi i did look at a youtube video that explained it simple enough for me to grasp,but it was made a few years back,so maybe the process fro the newer units could be just a bit different? help! help! help!
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Posted By: cove_crawler
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/27/13 07:45 PM
I've got an SI question. Say you were idling in 40ft of water looking for fish suspending at about 20 feet of water. Let's also say that you don't have much confidence in identifying fish on side imaging when they graph over the imaging of the bottom. Could you set your SI range to 45 ft on booth sides so that the screen shows the deep dark part as the biggest part of the screen? Would the suspended fish just show up in the dark part, making them easier to identify?
Posted By: Jamoke
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/05/13 04:06 PM
Doug Are you going to be at the Fishing For Freedom this year? I bought a 998c last Sept from David at Shut up and fish, really enjoyed the unit. Noticed initially that when I hit very rough water the unit would power down. Since I know the lake pretty well never bothered me, only use it when actually fishing. Lately the unit has been powering down a low speeds with little or no rough water. Today it shut down while trolling at low speeds on water that was like glass. I have checked the power connections, no issues there, the battery if fully charged. Is this normal for a one year old unit to just stop working. Thanks Chris
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/06/13 08:10 PM
[quote=cove_crawler]I've got an SI question. Say you were idling in 40ft of water looking for fish suspending at about 20 feet of water. Let's also say that you don't have much confidence in identifying fish on side imaging when they graph over the imaging of the bottom. Could you set your SI range to 45 ft on booth sides so that the screen shows the deep dark part as the biggest part of the screen? Would the suspended fish just show up in the dark part, making them easier to identify? [/quote
yes. but if you cant see the fish on side imaging, your settings are not correct, try AMBER 2 and try adjusting your contrast to make the fish pop out. the trick is to try and darken the background and brighten the fish,.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/06/13 08:13 PM
select a voltage readout box on your unit to show voltage, and see what voltage you are getting to your unit while on the water at all times.
Also you can power up your unit, disconnect it from the bracket but not the power cable block, and shake it, to see if it shuts off.
Posted By: howard
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 12:25 AM
I have an 1198 with the extra transducer for on plane use. I don't think my unit recognizes the transducer because when I get on plane my screen basically goes blank..how do I QC this problem? Thanks guys..
Ps. Extra transducer is mounted inside on the hull
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 01:01 AM
I have an 1198 with the extra transducer for on plane use. I don't think my unit recognizes the transducer because when I get on plane my screen basically goes blank..how do I QC this problem? Thanks guys..
Ps. Extra transducer is mounted inside on the hull
How are the two transducers connected to the display?
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 01:52 AM
Doug Are you going to be at the Fishing For Freedom this year? I bought a 998c last Sept from David at Shut up and fish, really enjoyed the unit. Noticed initially that when I hit very rough water the unit would power down. Since I know the lake pretty well never bothered me, only use it when actually fishing. Lately the unit has been powering down a low speeds with little or no rough water. Today it shut down while trolling at low speeds on water that was like glass. I have checked the power connections, no issues there, the battery if fully charged. Is this normal for a one year old unit to just stop working. Thanks Chris
I'm heading out this week back to Mississippi for the Final BASS Open and will not be able to make that event. No. That is normally a sign of power supply. Are you using a glass bulb style fuse versus blade style? Also check the cable collector to make sure the power supply is fully seated in the connector. Might try pushing the pins in opposite direction slightly that will provide a better contact. If not call HB Customer service the unit may need to be looked at.
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 02:00 AM
I have an 1198 with the extra transducer for on plane use. I don't think my unit recognizes the transducer because when I get on plane my screen basically goes blank..how do I QC this problem? Thanks guys..
Ps. Extra transducer is mounted inside on the hull
If you have the Y Cable this will explain better.
http://youtu.be/BCuCOPhyGZs I'm not sure how it could work off plane unless you do not have the Y Cable hooked up or you have a transducer switch then need to switch each time you get on plane.
Posted By: Jamoke
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 02:24 AM
Thanks I will try that, GL in Miss!!!!
Posted By: howard
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 04:55 PM
I have an 1198 with the extra transducer for on plane use. I don't think my unit recognizes the transducer because when I get on plane my screen basically goes blank..how do I QC this problem? Thanks guys..
Ps. Extra transducer is mounted inside on the hull
If you have the Y Cable this will explain better.
http://youtu.be/BCuCOPhyGZs I'm not sure how it could work off plane unless you do not have the Y Cable hooked up or you have a transducer switch then need to switch each time you get on plane.
so i think i get it now..i need to change the "view" once i get on plane in order to see the 2d sonar the extra transducer is providing
Posted By: Doug Vahrenberg
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 05:55 PM
I have an 1198 with the extra transducer for on plane use. I don't think my unit recognizes the transducer because when I get on plane my screen basically goes blank..how do I QC this problem? Thanks guys..
Ps. Extra transducer is mounted inside on the hull
If you have the Y Cable this will explain better.
http://youtu.be/BCuCOPhyGZs I'm not sure how it could work off plane unless you do not have the Y Cable hooked up or you have a transducer switch then need to switch each time you get on plane.
so i think i get it now..i need to change the "view" once i get on plane in order to see the 2d sonar the extra transducer is providing
Yep. you have to change to 2D Sonar or 2D and Mapping Like I use to see the data. Save it as one of your 3 Favorites and with one button push you are ready to go when on plane, I would save another for SI when you are off plane. Here is my OnPlane Screen I use most.
Posted By: howard
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 06:22 PM
thanks Doug!
Posted By: Dicster
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 10:52 PM
Doug Are you going to be at the Fishing For Freedom this year? I bought a 998c last Sept from David at Shut up and fish, really enjoyed the unit. Noticed initially that when I hit very rough water the unit would power down. Since I know the lake pretty well never bothered me, only use it when actually fishing. Lately the unit has been powering down a low speeds with little or no rough water. Today it shut down while trolling at low speeds on water that was like glass. I have checked the power connections, no issues there, the battery if fully charged. Is this normal for a one year old unit to just stop working. Thanks Chris
I'm heading out this week back to Mississippi for the Final BASS Open and will not be able to make that event. No. That is normally a sign of power supply. Are you using a glass bulb style fuse versus blade style? Also check the cable collector to make sure the power supply is fully seated in the connector. Might try pushing the pins in opposite direction slightly that will provide a better contact. If not call HB Customer service the unit may need to be looked at.
What's the difference using a bulb style vs blade style?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/08/13 11:05 PM
Doug Are you going to be at the Fishing For Freedom this year? I bought a 998c last Sept from David at Shut up and fish, really enjoyed the unit. Noticed initially that when I hit very rough water the unit would power down. Since I know the lake pretty well never bothered me, only use it when actually fishing. Lately the unit has been powering down a low speeds with little or no rough water. Today it shut down while trolling at low speeds on water that was like glass. I have checked the power connections, no issues there, the battery if fully charged. Is this normal for a one year old unit to just stop working. Thanks Chris
I'm heading out this week back to Mississippi for the Final BASS Open and will not be able to make that event. No. That is normally a sign of power supply. Are you using a glass bulb style fuse versus blade style? Also check the cable collector to make sure the power supply is fully seated in the connector. Might try pushing the pins in opposite direction slightly that will provide a better contact. If not call HB Customer service the unit may need to be looked at.
What's the difference using a bulb style vs blade style?
The spade type makes a more solid connection in the holder and is less prone to corrosion. It doesn't have a tension spring either to conduct current or get weak.
I just baught a boat that came with a Humminbird 997, it does not read when I am running across the lake, I am told that I need a high speed transducer and it hooks along with the side/down imaging transducer? Is there a high speed transducer and what is the part number for it.
thank you
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/19/13 12:59 PM
I just baught a boat that came with a Humminbird 997, it does not read when I am running across the lake, I am told that I need a high speed transducer and it hooks along with the side/down imaging transducer? Is there a high speed transducer and what is the part number for it.
thank you
The standard transducer for the 997 is the
XHS 9 HDSI 180 T and it does Side Imaging, Down Imaging, 2D sonar and temp.
It can give you on-plane depth readings IF installed correctly for your hull.
The BEST installation for a
thin hull fiberglass high performance boat is a properly installed shoot-thru 2D transducer
XP 9 20.
When using that transducer, you connect it and the transom mounted SI transducer to the display with the
AS SIDB Y cable.
That cable disconnects the 2D crystal in the SI transducer and connects the shoot-thru 2D transducer in its place. The combination of the two functions the same as the single SI transducer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/19/13 01:04 PM
I just baught a boat that came with a Humminbird 997, it does not read when I am running across the lake, I am told that I need a high speed transducer and it hooks along with the side/down imaging transducer? Is there a high speed transducer and what is the part number for it.
thank you
One more thing, you didn't state what boat you have. If you have a metal hull, then there are a couple of other choices for on-plane depth readings.
Posted By: Red Eye Bandit
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 10/20/13 02:30 AM
Sounds like the same issue I was having with my 898.
Posted By: Wylie Jeff
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/26/13 03:31 PM
I have an 898c SI. I haven't been very good at keeping the software updated on the unit. Could I get a recommendation on what version of software to use/download. My concern, of course, is versions that were released and had "unexpected features" in them. LOL!
Thanks in advance for any response from 898 users in particular.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/26/13 04:12 PM
I have an 898c SI. I haven't been very good at keeping the software updated on the unit. Could I get a recommendation on what version of software to use/download. My concern, of course, is versions that were released and had "unexpected features" in them. LOL!
Thanks in advance for any response from 898 users in particular.
If you don't have a HS antenna, a 360 transducer or use iPilot link, 6.490 is what most use and recommend.
If you have any of the above, the current version 6.740 seems to be the best.
If your unit is registered with
www.humminbird.com log into your account and it will inform you of what software your unit currently has and what updates are available.
If their are updates available you can click on it and it will give you a review of the update at which point you can choose to update or simply close out and continue with your current version.
It is not required that you must update to the most current version. As Wayne stated above.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/26/13 05:25 PM
If your unit is registered with
www.humminbird.com log into your account and it will inform you of what software your unit currently has and what updates are available.
If their are updates available you can click on it and it will give you a review of the update at which point you can choose to update or simply close out and continue with your current version.
It is not required that you must update to the most current version. As Wayne stated above.
Your account will not show what your unit has, just the current software version. You have to check that in the unit System Status view.
Posted By: Wylie Jeff
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/26/13 07:50 PM
Thanx Wayne and David. That's EXACTLY what I needed to know.
Thanks
Jeff
Posted By: Wylie Jeff
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/04/13 04:01 PM
Wow guys. I couldn't believe the difference that software made to my 898c SI unit. the resolution improvement in Side Scan was phenomenal! I had no idea the software would improve the performance that much. Thanks for the assist.
Had several ask what changed in the latest 6.740 Software. Here are the programming notes and some images:
Download
1198C(Version 6.740)
Release Date: 09/05/2013
Description:
General Fixes:
• Removed “Shaded Depth” while LakeMaster card is inserted
• Removed “Set Map Offset” and “Clear Map Offset” while LakeMaster card is inserted
• Fixed issue where sonar recordings would become corrupted when the SD card filled up
Model Specific Fixes:
• 798ci HD SI, 898c HD SI, 998c HD SI, and 1198c SI: Fixed issue where “Chart/ Side Combo View” would not populate in the “Views Menu” or in the “Views Carousel”
• 798ci HD SI, 898c HD SI, 998c HD SI, and 1198c SI: Fixed issue where “SI Auto Range” does not work while depth units are set to Meters (International product only)
New Features:
• Added AS 360 TM support and menus
• Updated “Depth Highlight” value to support up to 800 feet
• Updated “Water Level Offset” to support down to -200 feet
Prerequisite:
You will need:
working MMC/SD reader/writer device
attached to your PC and
a formatted MMC/SD card.
Instructions:
Please read carefully before proceeding.
You must RESTORE the defaults on your unit BEFORE you perform any software update and we suggest that you disconnect any advanced accessories from the unit (i.e. Weathersense, Interlink, Cannonlink, etc) before going any further. The exceptions to this would be if you have the Minn Kota i-Pilot Link or the Humminbird 360 Imaging attached. Both of these items need to remain connected to the unit in order to update their software which is done via the units Ethernet system.
How to Restore Defaults: With the unit powered on, Press the MENU button twice to the main menu on the system. Then you press the RIGHT cursor until you get to the SETUP menu tab. Once you have reached the SETUP menu tab, use the DOWN cursor until you reach RESTORE DEFAULTS, you will then press the RIGHT cursor key to restore the defaults. To confirm press the RIGHT cursor again.
To update with an SD Card
On the My Equipment page you will see an image of your product, a Description which includes Model name, Serial # and Purchase date. Available Downloads, which typically includes: HumminbirdPC and the software for your model. In the unlikely event that your product image or model number, does not match the product you have registered, immediately contact us and do not proceed until we have resolved this issue for you. HumminbirdPC is a program which can be downloaded to your computer to help you manage your waypoints and routes, rename them or convert waypoints from another brand locator.
Click on the Download which contains the Model name of the unit you wish to update.
We highly recommend that you read these instructions thoroughly before you continue this process.
Never attempt to Open these files, these files are only to be Saved.
You will need to select Save this file to the SD Card. (The SD card may be listed on your Computer as a Removable Disk, Removable Storage Drive or SD). Do not modify the name of the file, then click on SAVE.
After the Download Complete dialog box appears - click CLOSE
Remove the SD Card from the card reader.
POWER ON YOUR UNIT, allow the unit to go through the complete start up BEFORE pressing any buttons or selecting any menu options. AFTER the unit has completed the loading process and you have clicked through the Warnings and Information screens, place the SD card inyour Humminbird unit.
You will get a message on the unit saying SOFTWARE NUMBER “123” is higher than your current “120” software do you want to update?, Press the Right Cursor to Confirm.
Another message will then appear saying do you want to ABORT, press the Left Cursor to NO at this time and the software update will begin. DO NOT POWER OFF THE UNIT DURING THIS TIME. If you lose power to the unit during the software upgrade process, it is very likely that the unit will need to be returned to the factory for updating. Once the update is complete the unit will restart and say current SOFTWARE NUMBER “123” installed, no update required. It is now safe to remove the SD Card, and power off the unit.
Once you have updated the software on the unit, we suggest that you add back your advanced accessories. If you have an Interlink, we suggest that you first connect to Unit 1, power on the unit and allow it to update the software on your Interlink. After this you may reconnect the remaining advanced accessories.
Here is New LakeMaster Water Level Offset increased to -200 Offset - These are examples on Falcon Lake at the Dam where Keith Combs won the BASS Elite Series
Zero Offset
-30 Foot (The Old Max Offset)
NEW Range -40 Foot
NEW Range -50 Foot
NEW Range -90 Hope it doesn't get this dry not much left to Falcon Lake
Here are more Feature Changes with the New Update. 360 Offset... now you can set the distance you are from the 360 Imaging Transducer will work on the Bow or Console 360 Imaging System and set Offset for each location.
360 Imaging Offset at Zero
360 Imaging Offset for my Console is 9' Forward of the Transducer Location. So I set 360 Imaging Offset at 9
360 Imaging Offset for my Bow Unit is 19' Forward so I set the 360 Imaging Offset at 19
Now there is a Heading Offset on 360 Imaging so you can precisely match dead ahead if the transducer is not mounted straight with the boat.
You use the < (Left) or > (Right) keypad to adjust the heading of straight forward and the Gray Line will be displayed for straight ahead.
Hit the Check Mark to Set and Check Mark Again to start transmission of 360 Imaging again.
Both of these features will be important with Bow 360 Imaging because trolling motors are mounted at an angle on the bow.
http://www.humminbird.com/ion/
http://www.humminbird.com/onix/Humminbird® Unveils Most Powerful Electronics Yet
Humminbird ONIX and ION bring bluewater and freshwater anglers unparalleled power via user-friendly Cross Touch™ technology
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL. (October 31, 2013) – Besides creating leading-edge products like 360 Imaging™, Humminbird® engineers have also been hard at work over the past two years developing a radical new platform that changes everything you know about fishing electronics.
Please welcome ONIX and ION, introduced today, Thursday, October 31st, at the Ft. Lauderdale International Boat Show. (
http://www.showmanagement.com/fort_lauderdale/event/)
“Humminbird ONIX and ION offer a rich user interface that is completely customizable to the individual needs of anglers and boaters, while remaining extremely easy-to-use via a full complement of multi-touch capabilities,” says Dale Logue, Director of Marketing, Humminbird. “The included feature list and available add-ons is unparalleled in the industry and make the units the most versatile, powerful and user friendly on the water.”
At the core of the new units, users will discover all the advantages of powerful Humminbird sonar, advanced navigation and Humminbird imaging technologies right at their fingertips, courtesy of a radical new take on Touch Screen operation called Cross Touch™.
While some touch units limit operation to finger pointing, Humminbird’s Cross Touch offers Multi-Gesture Control, which lets users navigate menus and activate features with a tap, swipe or pinch. Cross Touch also minimizes false touches from splashing water.
From marking waypoints with your finger, naming those waypoints via a virtual keyboard, to zooming in on fish-holding structure or chart locations for a better look, or swiping and dragging screens to create custom views, fishfinder use has never been more intuitive than this.
But ONIX And ION are more than touch screen units. They also feature redundant, traditional touchpad controls for complete control in bad weather.
Humminbird ONIX
The ONIX family currently comprises four models, offering anglers the benefits of powerful Cross Touch with the sonar, imaging and navigation features they need most. All units feature 1024H x 768V best-in-class screen resolution on 10.4- or 8.4-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays with multi-gesture support and bright graphics readable in harsh sunlight.
Features
· HD Side Imaging/HD Down Imaging (ONIX 8 SI & ONIX 10 SI)
· DualBeam PLUS Sonar w/SwitchFire
· Digital Signal Processing (DSP)
· Internal Precision GPS
· Built-In Tri-Fuel Cartography, including Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird Charts
· Dual SD Card Slots
Add-Ons
· Humminbird AutoChart™
· C-MAP® 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen®
· Navionics® Gold/HotMaps
· Navionics® Platinum+
· Humminbird LakeMaster Digital GPS Charts
· Minn Kota® i-Pilot® Link™
· Low, Medium or High-Frequency CHIRP, exclusive to Humminbird
· 360 Imaging™
· RADAR
· AIS
· IP Marine Camera
Humminbird ION
Humminbird ION10 and ION12 multi-function displays bring bluewater anglers the centerpiece for building an expandable platform of networked devices and technologies—and viewing all via the ION’s high-resolution, easy-to-use 10.4- or 12.1-inch high-definition XGA LCD Touch Displays. From Side Imaging, Down Imaging, 360 Imaging, black box CHIRP broadband sonar to IP cameras, there’s full NMEA 0183/2000 compatibility to integrate, control and monitor the data you need to catch more fish and stay safe on the water.
Users can customize their ION platform to include Humminbird RADAR, Autopilot, wireless connectivity, even a built-in web browser to monitor weather and stay connected miles from the dock. Included TriFuel Cartography gives both ION and ONIX users exclusive access to Navionics®, C-MAP® by Jeppesen® and Humminbird base maps out of the box. Users can also add on AutoChart to map their own waters, state-of-the-art C-MAP 4D High Resolution Bathymetry by Jeppesen or Navionics Gold/HotMaps and Platinum+.
Question Doug?
Will you be running the ION, ONIX or 1199 Series for 2014?
I have not decided q00% but I really like the looks of the feature of the ONIX. ION is blackbox technology and I prefer stand alone models for my Bass Boat Applications.
But nothing wrong with the 1100 Series...proven and super features for the value. I would not hesitate running either model.
Ive got a 798ci HDsi that I am moving to the bow. I bought a new 1198 si to mount on the console. I am also installing a hull through transducer so I don't lose bottom. I have the y cable for the transducer and I also order a 20ft Ethernet cable to link both the units together. Do I need any other adapter cables for the 798 or will all this work? I also bought a new transducer mount for my trolling motor and ram mounts for both units.. ( a good day at the casino $8000.00 ..lol) If my wife didn't decide she wants me to pay for an Alaskan cruise I would have the new I-link terranove too..
I also bought the lake master chip.. can I run both lake master and avionics chips or do I need to pull one out?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/10/13 01:44 AM
I also bought the lake master chip.. can I run both lake master and avionics chips or do I need to pull one out?
You can have both in your unit if you have the dual card slots.
You would have to select which to view in the Nav tab/Chart Select menu.
Posted By: Dicster
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 11/15/13 06:36 AM
Doug Are you going to be at the Fishing For Freedom this year? I bought a 998c last Sept from David at Shut up and fish, really enjoyed the unit. Noticed initially that when I hit very rough water the unit would power down. Since I know the lake pretty well never bothered me, only use it when actually fishing. Lately the unit has been powering down a low speeds with little or no rough water. Today it shut down while trolling at low speeds on water that was like glass. I have checked the power connections, no issues there, the battery if fully charged. Is this normal for a one year old unit to just stop working. Thanks Chris
So I finally found the problem I was having with my 998. Like Chris, my unit was shutting off during rough water and as time went on, it starts to power off even on calm water. I had check my voltage, my power line, switch to bladed fuse, and even ran a separate battery to it with no resolution. So I finally check all my wires and found the problem. Over time, my transducer wire had ran underneath my wood board which I stand on my center console. I had initially ran it along the wood board. When rough water hit, the board was crushing the transducer wire. Over time, it had rub the protective rubber covering off from the wire. Every time I would stand on my stand, it would crush the wire therefore causing the unit to shut off. Now that I have removed the wire from under the board, my unit has work flawlessly just as first installed. So if you guys having problem when your unit shuts off during rough water and check your power source, you might want to check your transducer wire or antenna wire making sure that its not crushing or rubbing against an edge that causing your unit to power off.
Posted By: edwardphoto
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 11/27/13 02:47 PM
quick question… just installed my 998c HD and not sure if my transducer is 100% in the clear. Is there a way to check it without going to the lake? I did use a string from one end of the lowest part of the boat to the other and the transducer did look like it cleared it, but would like to know for sure.
Also, am I supposed to be able to see lakes on my included map? I see a map, but the lakes are showing up as regular land. ???
This is my first humminbird, not to mention first high end sonar, so everything is new to me. Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 11/27/13 05:31 PM
quick question… just installed my 998c HD and not sure if my transducer is 100% in the clear. Is there a way to check it without going to the lake? I did use a string from one end of the lowest part of the boat to the other and the transducer did look like it cleared it, but would like to know for sure.
Also, am I supposed to be able to see lakes on my included map? I see a map, but the lakes are showing up as regular land. ???
This is my first humminbird, not to mention first high end sonar, so everything is new to me. Thanks!
For the transducer to "see" from the water's surface to past vertical on both sides, each side of the transducer has to have a clear path to do that.
The built-in ContourXD mapping has 3,000 bodies of water with contours. There are 10's of thousands of bodies of water, lots of them get left out. There are 54 bodies of water in Texas included on the built-in mapping.
http://store.humminbird.cust.shopatron.com/media/document/ContourXDMapLakeList.pdfThe unit can use either Lakemaster or Navionics digital mapping.
Posted By: edwardphoto
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 11/28/13 05:08 AM
Thx Wayne!
Is Humminbird PC compatible with an Apple computer. I recently switched over from a windows laptop to a Mac.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird 998 Down Image - 12/08/13 04:58 PM
Is Humminbird PC compatible with an Apple computer. I recently switched over from a windows laptop to a Mac.
No, but you can install a parallel software to do it.
Do a web search for "PC software to Mac"
Posted By: Little2Late
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/13 02:10 AM
$14.95 for the 10' and $19.95 for the 20'
Add $5.99 for S&H
I have had a hard time keeping this item in stock. I do currently have them in stock.
You still have these power cable extensions? I need one for my HB 998.
$14.95 for the 10' and $19.95 for the 20'
Add $5.99 for S&H
I have had a hard time keeping this item in stock. I do currently have them in stock.
You still have these power cable extensions? I need one for my HB 998.
Hello Jim,
Yes sir, I still make them up as requested. I see your PM and I replied.
Posted By: formula462
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/29/13 03:50 AM
I cant get the side image on my 798, it was working the last time I took it out but cant get it back on screen.which window on menu would it be under?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/29/13 01:12 PM
I cant get the side image on my 798, it was working the last time I took it out but cant get it back on screen.which window on menu would it be under?
It is one of the views in the rotation when you push the VIEW button if you didn't turn it off in the Views menu.
I have it set as one of the short-cut buttons above the power button.
Posted By: formula462
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/29/13 03:53 PM
I cant get the side image on my 798, it was working the last time I took it out but cant get it back on screen.which window on menu would it be under?
It is one of the views in the rotation when you push the VIEW button if you didn't turn it off in the Views menu.
I have it set as one of the short-cut buttons above the power button.
No thats what is strange, last time I used it it was in view rotation but now its not and I didnt change anything. I cant even find the screen that has si settings
Posted By: formula462
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/29/13 03:55 PM
Would it be in the views window?
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/30/13 01:15 AM
try a restore to factory defaults.
Posted By: ezgoing
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/01/14 04:28 AM
Does anybody know the size of the bolts (machine screws) that fit the two connectors for external mounting in the back of the Humminbird 597ci HD DI Combo?
I am talking about the two that are in the back of the unit for external mounting of the head instead of using a quick disconnect mount.
I've searched the internet and the humminbird site but can not find a parts list for this unit.
Thanks,
Ed
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/01/14 03:39 PM
There is no external mount system or provisions for one. The quick disconnect mount is the "external" mount system and has the cable collector to hold the plugs for the transducer, and power cord.
The brass threaded insert and threads in the heat sink are for
flush mounting using the flush mount kit. The kit comes with the threaded studs, bracket, nuts, and a cable collector.
http://store.humminbird.com/products/322979/IDMK_700BTW, the thread size must be metric because a 8-32 is too small and a 10-32 is too large.
I don't have any metric screws to check.
Posted By: ezgoing
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/01/14 05:27 PM
Thanks for the information. I plan on placing this unit on the front rail of my pontoon as I will be replacing it with an SI unit on the console in the near future.
The quick disconnect mount is too large to use there. So I was going to have a metal bar made that will connect to these two threaded inserts and to the front rail.
Now I wonder if those two threaded inserts would be strong enough to hold the unit if attached to a metal bar on the front rail of the pontoon. So I may need to design a metal base that will attach to the rail and use the quick disconnect mount on that base.
Thanks again for your response.
Ed
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/01/14 05:55 PM
There is a RAM mount that is made for the Humminbird quick disconnect base and there are rail clamp RAM bases to go with it.
Check out the RAM web site.
Thanks for the information. I plan on placing this unit on the front rail of my pontoon as I will be replacing it with an SI unit on the console in the near future.
The quick disconnect mount is too large to use there. So I was going to have a metal bar made that will connect to these two threaded inserts and to the front rail.
Now I wonder if those two threaded inserts would be strong enough to hold the unit if attached to a metal bar on the front rail of the pontoon. So I may need to design a metal base that will attach to the rail and use the quick disconnect mount on that base.
Thanks again for your response.
Ed
Posted By: ezgoing
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/01/14 08:56 PM
I looked at RAM mounts previously but they were all too short for what I will need. I was not aware of the rail adapter for the RAM mount.
I will keep this in mind when I am ready for the conversion. I will need to find a square u-bolt to mount it to my square rail but that should not be that hard to find.
Thanks,
Ed
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/02/14 12:22 AM
I looked at RAM mounts previously but they were all too short for what I will need. I was not aware of the rail adapter for the RAM mount.
I will keep this in mind when I am ready for the conversion. I will need to find a square u-bolt to mount it to my square rail but that should not be that hard to find.
Thanks,
Ed
If you have a square rail RAM has you covered too with this style mount in sizes to fit your rail:
Posted By: stubby72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/11/14 04:52 AM
how much to get 2 899ci HD Si to Australia thanks
Posted By: stubby72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/11/14 08:38 AM
what upgrades have they made from 898 to 899 ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/11/14 04:19 PM
what upgrades have they made from 898 to 899 ?
There are upgrades and downgrades.
Upgrades:
Faster processor
Ethernet connection is in the cable collector--easier removal of the unit.
Internal GPS antenna--good for some applications
$500 less expensive MSRP than the 898c HD SI Comb MSRP
Downgrades:
Not Navionics Platinum compatable
Comes with the Compact SI transducer instead of the HDSI transducer, BUT can use the HDSI
transducer for an additional cost
Requires the AS EC QDE Ethernet adaptor for the Ethernet connection--not supplied
Internal GPS antenna--an external GPS antenna is needed for some applications=additional
cost
Out of the box, the 899ci HD SI Combo is a wide screen version of the 798ci HD SI Combo.
Posted By: stubby72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/11/14 09:24 PM
Is there anyway you can link a 987 to a 787
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/14 12:47 AM
Is there anyway you can link a 987 to a 787
AS INTERLINK
Posted By: stubby72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/14 01:53 AM
Yes a dealer here told me that these two units were .not compatible is that right
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/14 01:26 PM
Yes a dealer here told me that these two units were .not compatible is that right
The 987c Combo is compatable with INTERLINK
The 787 C2 Combo is compatable with INTERLINK
INTERLINK shares GPS data between units and both units have GPS.
Posted By: stubby72
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/13/14 08:32 AM
thanks mate
Posted By: Weekender1
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/14 05:30 AM
I have connected my 788Ci HD di to the US2 transducer in a Minn Kota Fortrex 101. I got the cable from Humminbird. It does not work, I know that I can't expect it to do down imaging but figured the 2d would work fine. Am I missing something or do I just need to get a transducer and mount it on the bottom of the TM?
Also, my 1197c loses bottom as soon as I take off is there a way to connect multiple transducers so that I can use the unit while running?
I just updated the software on both units
Thanks for any help
Jody
You cannot use with US2 because it's 2D only unless you can change the Transducer select to Dual Beam Transducer. I know on larger units you can just not sure on 788ci HD DI. If you can't you could damage the transmitter in unit if it's trying to transmit DI with no crystal to power.
Posted By: chri$
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/18/14 03:27 AM
Anyone tried the new 899-1199 yet? Just wondering if they are as good an upgrade as what they are claiming compared to 1198?
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/14 07:47 PM
Having buyers remorse, bought me a 561 for my trolling motor and starting to think I should have gone ahead and bought the 581 with the down imaging/GPS.
it was $150 more but I all ready have GPS on the boat.
Should I have gone with what I could afford or Extra stuff I all ready got?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/14 07:51 PM
Having buyers remorse, bought me a 561 for my trolling motor and starting to think I should have gone ahead and bought the 581 with the down imaging/GPS.
it was $150 more but I all ready have GPS on the boat.
Should I have gone with what I could afford or Extra stuff I all ready got?
You can't have too much stuff.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/14 07:58 PM
Having buyers remorse, bought me a 561 for my trolling motor and starting to think I should have gone ahead and bought the 581 with the down imaging/GPS.
it was $150 more but I all ready have GPS on the boat.
Should I have gone with what I could afford or Extra stuff I all ready got?
You can't have too much stuff.
Thats not what the wife says.
Posted By: pinesjunkie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/28/14 03:55 AM
Hate to say it guys but think I am going with lowrance for my new units just can't see spending 3300 on the new bird
will still run a 1198 up front for the 360 but after seeing what [censored] the bird is giving me on both of my 1197 after the update on 2d and seeing that there will be lack of support on the 11 in the next few years I must say good by.
Posted By: BassLakeFork
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/05/14 03:40 AM
Has anyone here used the link (with iPilot Minn Kota) feature with the Hummingbird Onix?
I have been strictly a Lowrance guy up until now..... Have I-Pilot and thought the link features might switch me to Hummingbird.
Stopped by BPS Grapevine tonight and got terrible reviews on the Onix.
Some comments:
1. Not understood - no training
2. Complicated - Lowrance is much easier
3. Didn't understand the fish pattern feature of Onix..... Wondering if a simple iPhone app could do the same thing.
Comments here???? Need to buy and want some ammo for swinging to Hummingbird.
Thanks!
New 959DI. Tried to mark a way point, no icon appeared.
Tried to mark several other way points at other locations, said 001 already exist at this location.
Do you have Nav chip installed? (None installed currently)
Did the self test everything is on and test ok.
Has anyone here used the link (with iPilot Minn Kota) feature with the Hummingbird Onix?
I have been strictly a Lowrance guy up until now..... Have I-Pilot and thought the link features might switch me to Hummingbird.
Stopped by BPS Grapevine tonight and got terrible reviews on the Onix.
Some comments:
1. Not understood - no training
2. Complicated - Lowrance is much easier
3. Didn't understand the fish pattern feature of Onix..... Wondering if a simple iPhone app could do the same thing.
Comments here???? Need to buy and want some ammo for swinging to Hummingbird.
Thanks!
iPilot Link works with the ONIX too.
The New ONIX is just beginning to ship and reps are out try to train locations as fast as they can and I'll be doing many videos because the ONIX offers several new ways to adjust your unit. It's more than just a touch screen it offers multi gesture control much like cell phones that you can pinch, double tap, two finger double tap, swipe but you can also do everything with the Joystick, Flywheel and touch buttons too. I found some things easier to adjust with the joystick and flywheel like 2D sensitivity just turn the button and it instantly adjusts sensitivity.
SmartStrike is an additional accessory like LakeMaster Contour Elite but built on the map card that allows you to pattern matach or structure match while on the water. Here is a short clip on Contour Elite and will be similar to Smart Strike Mapping Cards with LakeMaster Mapping Data
New 959DI. Tried to mark a way point, no icon appeared.
Tried to mark several other way points at other locations, said 001 already exist at this location.
Do you have Nav chip installed? (None installed currently)
Did the self test everything is on and test ok.
Try restoring defaults that has helped sometimes. You do not need SD Card to mark waypoints they are saved in the units internal memory. IF that does not help call HB Customer Service 800-633-1468
Posted By: 44FMG
Re: Humminbird - 03/16/14 04:01 PM
OK I HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE A 1197 SIDE VIEW HAD TRBL MOUNTING THE TRANS: I FIGURED IT OUT KINDA, WELL DIDNT WORK SO WELL BUST MOUNT AND RIPPED IT OFF NOW I NEED ANOTHER TRANS,C AN I GET 1 THAT I CAN PUT INSIDE WITH THIS UNIT HELP SOMEONE PLEASE
Posted By: Big C
Re: Humminbird - 03/16/14 05:21 PM
Has anyone here used the link (with iPilot Minn Kota) feature with the Hummingbird Onix?
I have been strictly a Lowrance guy up until now..... Have I-Pilot and thought the link features might switch me to Hummingbird.
Stopped by BPS Grapevine tonight and got terrible reviews on the Onix.
Some comments:
1. Not understood - no training
2. Complicated - Lowrance is much easier
3. Didn't understand the fish pattern feature of Onix..... Wondering if a simple iPhone app could do the same thing.
Comments here???? Need to buy and want some ammo for swinging to Hummingbird.
Thanks!
This was my experience as well. Went to the BPS here and it was pretty much the same experience. Unit was very slow in "touchscreen" mode. It seems the defense strategy is "We'll, it works better with buttons than touch in some modes." Hope this changes. I was really hoping for better.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird - 03/16/14 08:15 PM
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
Have him relocate the transducer up just a bit. That should solve the problem.
Posted By: Whiskey Bob
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 06:03 AM
Riptide interference is killin me ... Man I'm frustrated... The Ipilot runs and wipes out the screen on the 2D sonar on my 1198 ... Is there anybody in Dallas area good at trouble shooting such problems ? It's a makin me Crazy ! I've tried ferrite rings , grounding [censored] till I'm nutz , witch craft , gonna try a hammer next ...
Posted By: edwardphoto
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 12:29 PM
Anyone seen this on their birds? 2D, SI, and Charts work perfectly… but DI looks like this. I changed the color palette for DI and it stopped for about 20 minutes, but then came back. I had gone fishing 2 days prior with no issues. Loaded the boat like normal, skipped a day due to high winds, then went back out and found the issue. I noticed that when I scrolled through my viewing options, DI was clear until I left it on my screen. That's why it's clear on the left portion of the DI side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 01:14 PM
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
It came with a rooster-tail plug for the mount--use it.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 01:16 PM
Anyone seen this on their birds? 2D, SI, and Charts work perfectly… but DI looks like this. I changed the color palette for DI and it stopped for about 20 minutes, but then came back. I had gone fishing 2 days prior with no issues. Loaded the boat like normal, skipped a day due to high winds, then went back out and found the issue. I noticed that when I scrolled through my viewing options, DI was clear until I left it on my screen. That's why it's clear on the left portion of the DI side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Update your operating software. That is a glitch in the DI menu Enhance settings.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 01:18 PM
OK I HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE A 1197 SIDE VIEW HAD TRBL MOUNTING THE TRANS: I FIGURED IT OUT KINDA, WELL DIDNT WORK SO WELL BUST MOUNT AND RIPPED IT OFF NOW I NEED ANOTHER TRANS,C AN I GET 1 THAT I CAN PUT INSIDE WITH THIS UNIT HELP SOMEONE PLEASE
The Side Imaging transducer has to be externally mounted.
What boat do you have?
Posted By: edwardphoto
Re: Humminbird - 03/17/14 04:16 PM
Ok.. thanks!
Anyone seen this on their birds? 2D, SI, and Charts work perfectly… but DI looks like this. I changed the color palette for DI and it stopped for about 20 minutes, but then came back. I had gone fishing 2 days prior with no issues. Loaded the boat like normal, skipped a day due to high winds, then went back out and found the issue. I noticed that when I scrolled through my viewing options, DI was clear until I left it on my screen. That's why it's clear on the left portion of the DI side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Update your operating software. That is a glitch in the DI menu Enhance settings.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird - 03/18/14 12:41 AM
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
It came with a rooster-tail plug for the mount--use it.
You are correct, it is missing the rooster tail plug. Anyone know where one can be purchased? He bought a used unit and it did not come with the plug.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/18/14 01:04 AM
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
It came with a rooster-tail plug for the mount--use it.
You are correct, it is missing the rooster tail plug. Anyone know where one can be purchased? He bought a used unit and it did not come with the plug.
I have a spare that I don't need, send me a mailing address via PM and I'll send it.
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird - 03/18/14 01:34 PM
Got a buddy that just installed a 798. He said the transducer is causing a horrible rooster tail. The top of the transducer is directly level with the bottom of the boat and there are no ribs or anything under the boat directly in front of it to cause turbulence. Any idea what went wrong and causing it to rooster tail like it is?
It came with a rooster-tail plug for the mount--use it.
You are correct, it is missing the rooster tail plug. Anyone know where one can be purchased? He bought a used unit and it did not come with the plug.
I have a spare that I don't need, send me a mailing address via PM and I'll send it.
PM sent. Thank you, you're very kind.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird - 03/25/14 03:41 AM
My graph show these lines only on down imagine screen. Looks fine when I split
Any suggestions?
Turn off DI Enhance Sharpness
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird - 03/27/14 04:38 PM
I'll try that
Has anyone used the link feature of the I-Pilot with a Humminbird?
I am particularly interested in the follow the contour feature.
Curious how well it works.
Thanks!
Posted By: BassLakeFork
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/14 11:12 AM
One more question....
I want to network an iPilot trolling motor, 1199 (console), 899 (bow), and 200 HP (2007) Yamaha together using a 5 port switch AS-ETH-5PXG.
Planning to use the US2 from the iPilot as the sonar for the 899. Will network the SI puck from the 1199 up to the 899.
Need to hook up the 2007 Yamaha so I can see the engine vitals through the 1199. There is a port capped off on the Yamaha. I think that we need a connection between the Yamaha and the 5 port switch, but there seems to be some confusion (maybe mine) about the connection hardwire required.
I called Humminbird customer service and they sent me a technical email trying to explain - still not clear what I need. Has anyone done something similar that can shed some light on this?
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/14 03:25 PM
If your motor has the NMEA harness, you need the Humminbird NMEA connection and an Ethernet cable.
The NMEA connection is the AS ETH NMEA2K
Posted By: Jamoke
Re: Humminbird - 04/02/14 04:03 PM
Has anyone used the link feature of the I-Pilot with a Humminbird?
I am particularly interested in the follow the contour feature.
Curious how well it works.
Thanks!
It works great, except it may be too prescise,it follows EVERY LITTLE CONTOUR CHANGE, foot by foot, it almost threw me out of the boat. I prefer either making my own course, it will save 6 separate courses up to 2 miles each or just simply using the autopilot. Straight line, regardless of wind or current, and adjusting only as needed.
Thanks Wayne P. and Jamoke.
Now there is a bigger problem - fitting the 1199ci into my Ranger Reata 210. It barely fits between the windshield and steering wheel. The bracket is the problem. I would use the factory gimbal bracket, mounted flush against the dash but it sticks too far out - the head almost hits the steering wheel. I need a shorter bracket since the head will sit parallel to the dash. Anyone heard of a tighter bracket? I have looked at the various Ram Mounts and the Balzout brackets but they just take up more real estate. Flush mount would be great if there were not so many gauges in the way.
Jamoke - is it worth getting the Link feature then? I had an I-Pilot on my last boat and thought it was great. The spot lock and autopilot features were the maim features I used. Was hoping that the Link would be even better.
Posted By: Jamoke
Re: Humminbird - 04/03/14 01:27 PM
Again, I was very excited about having the follow the countour feature. Until I actually used it. TOO Prescise, takes a close look at your contour lines, EVERY Little turn, right left, foot by foot. It is truly Nauseating, loud and nerve racking and it almost pitched me out of the boat. when the boat starts turning left, you tend to lean against the turn, then it abruptly turns right, then left again. I have not used it since the 1st 4 times when it was a novelty. No one in the boat appreciates that much variabilty while fishing. JMO.
Think there may be a way to mount the 1199.
Option 1 is to flush mount into a metal plate away from the dash so the gauges can stay intact and only partially obstructed.
Option 2 is to cut back the factory gimbal mount and use some stainless hardware to piece it back together.
Either way should work fine and get the 1199 into a tight spot that does not obstruct vision.
Used option 2 and came out great. Put steel plate into dash, then mounted cut back gimbal mount directly onto dash. Spaced out from dash 1/2" with doubled up marine plywood from West Marine.
Is there some secret to getting power wires from the front of a Ranger boat back to the battery? This boat is filled with foam. Somehow need to get wires routed to the dash also.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird - 04/10/14 10:19 AM
Turn off DI Enhance Sharpness
Thanks that fixed it.
What's the point of having the feature of I can't use it?
Posted By: fastguy�
Re: Humminbird - 05/08/14 08:34 PM
I have an 898 with a y cable and 2 transducers, the digital depth seems to lock up and display an erroneous depth. It will finally update the depth but it may take 10-20 seconds.
It shows the same thing in SI mode and DI mode.
Ideas?
Posted By: lakewood
Re: Humminbird - 05/16/14 02:56 PM
I'm having a hard time making a decision . Wanting to spend around 1000.00 on HD SI unit.
Here's the problem. I'm a crappie fishing person in a small boat,small lakes,trolling motor only.
I need a graph that works well at slow trolling motor speeds.
Any help would be great.
I am now looking to rig a new boat with electronics.
What would be your dream setup of Humminbird, Lowrance, or a combination, of electronics?
Thank you.
Posted By: TPropst
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/01/14 03:00 PM
I have been through this topic completely (yes all 75 or so pages) and I have a question. I have a 998C HD SI combo at the console and a 788CI DI Combo on the bow networked together with Ethernet. In this forum and others I have seen the pictures of DI and sonar of both Lowrance and HB and it seems to me that the Lowrance images seem to be so much better as far as showing fish above a brush pile or among the branches of a tree. I have watched hours of Doug V. videos and searched the web for proper setup and settings. I have been on the lake numerous times and have tried a myriad of settings to both SI, DI and Sonar and just haven't stumbled onto the results I'm expecting and when I have caught fish it has been because "that looks like a good place to fish." My HB has not helped me at all. Now I'll be the first to admit that more than likely I'm like a dog watching TV. I know somethings there I just don't know what it is. I cannot get the images that I see on forums of the Lowrance images. It has been suggested that I leave the tackle at home and cruise the lake learning my HB units. It sounds good, but, unless I have someone with me that can point to the screen and say "those are fish" it seems pointless. I'm back to the dog watching TV again. I'm beginning to believe that either something is wrong with my equipment or I should have bought Lowrance. Honestly the stories of poor service is what scared me away from Lowrance and to HB.
I keep reading that the chart speed is the number one mistake people make with their units. That not matching the boat speed with the chart speed. I saw a post by Doug V. where he showed 3 or 4 pictures of DI and each picture was a faster chart speed. You could see the tree branches open up and he (DV) said that a faster chart speed would help you see the fish among the branches. Was that a specific scenario? Seems like I'm getting conflicting info as to chart speed. The next time I go out I'll take some screen shots and post them here. One suggestion. When you guys post a picture it would be helpful if you could also post the settings that you were using. I have seen HB pictures of fish among branches and on brush piles (doesn't seem to be as sharp and detailed as Lowrance but good enough) so I know it's possible.
Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/01/14 04:25 PM
I have been through this topic completely (yes all 75 or so pages) and I have a question. I have a 998C HD SI combo at the console and a 788CI DI Combo on the bow networked together with Ethernet. In this forum and others I have seen the pictures of DI and sonar of both Lowrance and HB and it seems to me that the Lowrance images seem to be so much better as far as showing fish above a brush pile or among the branches of a tree. I have watched hours of Doug V. videos and searched the web for proper setup and settings. I have been on the lake numerous times and have tried a myriad of settings to both SI, DI and Sonar and just haven't stumbled onto the results I'm expecting and when I have caught fish it has been because "that looks like a good place to fish." My HB has not helped me at all. Now I'll be the first to admit that more than likely I'm like a dog watching TV. I know somethings there I just don't know what it is. I cannot get the images that I see on forums of the Lowrance images. It has been suggested that I leave the tackle at home and cruise the lake learning my HB units. It sounds good, but, unless I have someone with me that can point to the screen and say "those are fish" it seems pointless. I'm back to the dog watching TV again. I'm beginning to believe that either something is wrong with my equipment or I should have bought Lowrance. Honestly the stories of poor service is what scared me away from Lowrance and to HB.
I keep reading that the chart speed is the number one mistake people make with their units. That not matching the boat speed with the chart speed. I saw a post by Doug V. where he showed 3 or 4 pictures of DI and each picture was a faster chart speed. You could see the tree branches open up and he (DV) said that a faster chart speed would help you see the fish among the branches. Was that a specific scenario? Seems like I'm getting conflicting info as to chart speed. The next time I go out I'll take some screen shots and post them here. One suggestion. When you guys post a picture it would be helpful if you could also post the settings that you were using. I have seen HB pictures of fish among branches and on brush piles (doesn't seem to be as sharp and detailed as Lowrance but good enough) so I know it's possible.
Thanks in advance.
Pay attention to what Doug shows in his videos. Your dog will hunt if you let it.
His videos are with Side Imaging equipment. The Down Imaging units produce a clearer DI image than the SI units since the SI unit's DI view is computer generated using the two SI crystals. The DI unit has a dedicated down looking sonar crystal.
The operation methods are the same.
Posted By: TPropst
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/02/14 11:06 PM
I have 998C SI combo with a Humminbird XHS 9 HDSI 180 transducer. What transducer should I choose under the sonar menu?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/14 02:48 PM
I have 998C SI combo with a Humminbird XHS 9 HDSI 180 transducer. What transducer should I choose under the sonar menu?
Your unit should already have the correct setting, Hi-Def Sidescan.
Posted By: TPropst
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/14 10:49 PM
Thank you Wayne.
Posted By: Jesse F.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/13/14 05:03 PM
my transducer that is mounted in the bottom of my boat is bad. i switched around the cables so that my 2d sonar runs off the back transducer that i have below the transom but that leaves my SI/DI not working. my question is, is there a way that i can use the back transducer for everything with out having to replace the bad transducer in the boat?
thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/13/14 06:33 PM
my transducer that is mounted in the bottom of my boat is bad. i switched around the cables so that my 2d sonar runs off the back transducer that i have below the transom but that leaves my SI/DI not working. my question is, is there a way that i can use the back transducer for everything with out having to replace the bad transducer in the boat?
thanks
A Side Imaging transducer has two Imaging crystals and a 2D crystal.
If you just want to use the SI tranducer for all, remove the Y cable and just have the SI transducer plugged directy into the display.
If the SI transducer is mounted correctly for on-plane depth performance with your hull it should work OK.
Having issues with my bird 596c every 5 minutes or so it starts showing the wrong depth, the sonar and di seam to still be reading correctly. It will just go from showing the correct depth say 15ft and all of the sudden be showing 60,70,110 it will just keep bouncing around. After a few minutes it will start reading the correct depth. Any ideas?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/14 11:41 AM
Having issues with my bird 596c every 5 minutes or so it starts showing the wrong depth, the sonar and di seam to still be reading correctly. It will just go from showing the correct depth say 15ft and all of the sudden be showing 60,70,110 it will just keep bouncing around. After a few minutes it will start reading the correct depth. Any ideas?
Where is the transducer mounted and are you operting another unit at the same time?
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/14 11:27 PM
Quick question on the Onix 10. Does it come with a cover?
Having issues with my bird 596c every 5 minutes or so it starts showing the wrong depth, the sonar and di seam to still be reading correctly. It will just go from showing the correct depth say 15ft and all of the sudden be showing 60,70,110 it will just keep bouncing around. After a few minutes it will start reading the correct depth. Any ideas?
Where is the transducer mounted and are you operting another unit at the same time?
It's on the trolling motor and no not using any other units
Quick question on the Onix 10. Does it come with a cover?
Yes it does come with the sun cover....
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/20/14 04:50 PM
Quick question on the Onix 10. Does it come with a cover?
Yes it does come with the sun cover....
Thanks!
One more question. If I want to add 360° imaging to my Onix what hardware do I need besides the 360° transducer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/21/14 12:43 AM
Quick question on the Onix 10. Does it come with a cover?
Yes it does come with the sun cover....
Thanks!
One more question. If I want to add 360° imaging to my Onix what hardware do I need besides the 360° transducer?
There are two 360 models.
One is a transom type and looks like a Talon and mounts like a Talon.
The other clamps to the upper non-rotating shaft of a Minnkota foot contol cable steer bow mount trolling motor. There is an shaft diameter adaptor made by Tranducer Shield and Saver to attach the bow 360 to a MotorGuide cable steer foot control motor.
The 360 is an Ethernet accessory, not a direct plug-in transducer.
Just let Shut-up-and-Fish know which type you want and they can tell you what parts are needed for the install.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/21/14 01:34 AM
Thanks. Sounds like I'll need the switch too.
Only need the Switch if connecting more than 2 Units or a Unit and Accessories.
Here is video I just released on Super Tuning the "Core" Product Line-Up and how to make adjustments so you can see all the data better. Hope it helps.
Posted By: JayRBV
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/12/14 11:28 PM
Looked through the dvd manual, All Doug's videos. Have a new 998c HD SI.
How do I move the information bar (temp, speed, depth, time, etc...) from on the left side of the graph to the bottom????
Oh, Doug, your vids rock, 1st day out found schools of white bass and striper gourging on bait. But that info bar is in my way....
Thanks!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 12:06 AM
You cannot move the data boxes anywhere.
You can turn some of them off.
In the full screen SI view ONLY, you can turn off all the left side data boxes and have temp and depth overlayed on the view like this. SI readouts in the Sonar menu.
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 12:27 AM
What's the best way to hook up power to the 360 transducer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 12:45 AM
What's the best way to hook up power to the 360 transducer?
I have the bow 360 and already had a dedicated oversize circuit to the bow for my 1198c SI.
I just added a toggle switch and fuse/holder on the power cord at the bow to turn it off.
Posted By: JayRBV
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 01:35 AM
Thanks Wayne!
Lovely.....
They should fix that...
Or just make it smaller and a lot more transparent.
Soooo, how do I make it look like that one above??
Thanks Wayne!
Lovely.....
They should fix that...
Or just make it smaller and a lot more transparent.
Soooo, how do I make it look like that one above??
In the Sonar Tab in Master Menu (Hit Menu Twice) scroll down to SI Readouts and turn to off.
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 02:59 AM
Is it better to run straight off the battery or to go through the power supply off of the dash panel for my 360? Or does it really matter at all?
Posted By: JayRBV
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/14 03:26 AM
Thanks Wayne!
Lovely.....
They should fix that...
Or just make it smaller and a lot more transparent.
Soooo, how do I make it look like that one above??
In the Sonar Tab in Master Menu (Hit Menu Twice) scroll down to SI Readouts and turn to off.
Thanks Doug!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/14/14 12:14 PM
Is it better to run straight off the battery or to go through the power supply off of the dash panel for my 360? Or does it really matter at all?
It is always better for electronics to have their own dedicated power connection to the battery, but the 360
may do OK connected to the boat wiring harness.
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/14/14 02:49 PM
Thanks Wayne
Posted By: mppheel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/16/14 03:09 AM
I have a humminbird 1198 and would like to know what my settings should be for offshore bottom fishing in 80-150 ft range of depth. For right now I only use the 2D settings. the down scan and side scan are a bit too much for me right now, once I get the 2D set I can compare on the screen the other views.
I have a hard time marking ledges and seeing fish that I know are there.
What should be my sensitivity, chart speed, frequency, noise filter, power etc.?
I am not sure what switchfire is. Clear or max?
Also bottom lock?
And structure scan?
Too many features... I will learn them, but need to get in the right direction.
Thanks a million!
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/19/14 03:07 AM
Can I change the color on my 360 screen or is the brown color the only color?
Posted By: Nick2021
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/19/14 04:26 AM
Hello,
I just bought a HB 1199 and put in a Navionics Plat chip and 8 GB SD card. While trying to save waypoints it would come up with an error "Cannot save to navionics chip" or something to that effect…..does the avionics chip have to be removed every time you upload a chart to the HB? I thought the Navionics chip could be left in without any issues as long as a formatted SD card was left in the other slot??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/20/14 06:48 AM
Make sure "snapshot" is turned off
Posted By: Nick2021
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/20/14 03:50 PM
Make sure "snapshot" is turned off
Even if I have a formatted sd card in the slot with a navionics chip in the other? It still needs to be off?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/21/14 11:36 PM
Make sure "snapshot" is turned off
Even if I have a formatted sd card in the slot with a navionics chip in the other? It still needs to be off?
If you have a memory card in one of the card slots, it should save a waypoint with an "S" prefix every time you push the Mark button and also save a screen shot on the card in a Snapshot folder.
If you do NOT have a memory card installed and Snapshot is turned on, the unit will not save a waypoint. To get a "W" prefix waypoint, you have to have Snapshot turned off with or without a memory card installed.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/21/14 11:39 PM
Make sure "snapshot" is turned off
Even if I have a formatted sd card in the slot with a navionics chip in the other? It still needs to be off?
One more thing, your Navionics card should be LOCKED unless you are updating it on your computer.
Posted By: Hunt25-06fish
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/22/14 12:09 AM
I have a 1199si and a 997si and a minkota terova with Ipilot and us2 I need to know how to link it all together I have the TM mount for the 997 ducer if I need to use it on the TM I can but would prefer to just pull the sonar from the us2 and DI/SI from the 1199 ducer off the transom is this possible or do I need to just run the 997 ducer and forget about the us2 link
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/22/14 12:30 AM
I have a 1199si and a 997si and a minkota terova with Ipilot and us2 I need to know how to link it all together I have the TM mount for the 997 ducer if I need to use it on the TM I can but would prefer to just pull the sonar from the us2 and DI/SI from the 1199 ducer off the transom is this possible or do I need to just run the 997 ducer and forget about the us2 link
You can eliminate the 997 for all you want to do except for a stand-alone SI unit. It is not Ethernet capable.
You will need another Ethernet capable unit to replace it to have two displays in the setup.
The iPilot link is an Ethernet connection. The US2 is a direct transducer connection.
You can change the Transducer Select in the unit menu to either US2 or Dual Beam and use the US2 transducer. The 997 would be a 2D-only unit then.
Posted By: Hunt25-06fish
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/22/14 01:02 AM
I have a 1199si and a 997si and a minkota terova with Ipilot and us2 I need to know how to link it all together I have the TM mount for the 997 ducer if I need to use it on the TM I can but would prefer to just pull the sonar from the us2 and DI/SI from the 1199 ducer off the transom is this possible or do I need to just run the 997 ducer and forget about the us2 link
You can eliminate the 997 for all you want to do except for a stand-alone SI unit. It is not Ethernet capable.
You will need another Ethernet capable unit to replace it to have two displays in the setup.
The iPilot link is an Ethernet connection. The US2 is a direct transducer connection.
You can change the Transducer Select in the unit menu to either US2 or Dual Beam and use the US2 transducer. The 997 would be a 2D-only unit then.
So basically I can't link it all together so I need to mount the 997 ducer on the TM and not worry with linking anything or buy another graph that is enet capable
Posted By: G Rod
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/24/14 01:59 PM
I am going to post this just for the sake of the TFF. I have a new 999 and during my last trip out I noticed the contour lines were missing from my Navionics maps. I checked all the settings and could not find a setting for turning on the contours.
The answer was related to customizing the map content. I had gone into the charts tab and selected the custom setting so I could turn on the "nature of seabed" option to show the creek channels. I had also hidden several options that I didn't think I needed. One of those was "drying lines". FYI, drying lines mean contour lines. Not sure why HB would call them drying lines.
Posted By: FACSR
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/26/14 06:13 PM
I have a question concerning a H-bird 899si I purchased in February 2014. I love the unit and im impressed with its capabilities,but I don't seem to be getting as clear of images as the ones I see posted on here. This is what i can tell about my unit , I had it installed by a qualified guy that was doing maintenance on my boat (2002 Seeter SX 190) and when I picked it up after the install I noticed the transducer was not level it seemed to be a few degrees angled up when I asked about it he said that's the way they like to install the transducers . I have used the unit multiple time since the install and have watched all the videos I could find to fine tune the set up but it still produces a grainy image. What prompted me to ask this question on the transducer is could this be causing my quality problems . I was idling past 515 bridge at fork with the unit set at 75' feet both directions and the bridge pilings were slanted forward.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/27/14 03:00 PM
The face of the SI transducer should be parallel with the water's surface when scanning at idle speed. Most boats have a bow up attitude when using the outboard at idle speed.
If the bridge pilings are displayed tilted the transducer is not tilted enough. The sonar pulse should be directly vertical.
The best way to set the angle is the shadows of vertical subjects should be horizontal on the display.
If you don't use another transducer for on-plane depth readings, then the transducer has to be adjusted for high speed use and not for correct images.
This is one setup incorrectly:
Posted By: FACSR
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/28/14 12:24 AM
The face of the SI transducer should be parallel with the water's surface when scanning at idle speed. Most boats have a bow up attitude when using the outboard at idle speed.
If the bridge pilings are displayed tilted the transducer is not tilted enough. The sonar pulse should be directly vertical.
The best way to set the angle is the shadows of vertical subjects should be horizontal on the display.
If you don't use another transducer for on-plane depth readings, then the transducer has to be adjusted for high speed use and not for correct images.
This is one setup incorrectly:
Wayne I am using a shoot thru the hull transducer for depth readings , although at idle speed 3 mph it don't seem like the nose lifts at all full load up front tackle and gear. I will just play with the adjustments up and down and see what happens. thanks Wayne Fred
Posted By: FACSR
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/28/14 12:32 AM
BTW Wayne on the image you posted above I believe my unit is showing a more skewed pic than that
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/28/14 12:38 AM
I just did enough adjustment to create the effect as an example.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/28/14 10:54 PM
Quick question...
Picked up my boat Saturday. Hit Cedar Creek Sunday. Having a problem with the Onix losing track of the bottom at random times. I'm betting it's because the transducer needs adjustment. How should it be mounted?
I didn't receive a owners manual or anything with the unit.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/28/14 11:14 PM
Go to Humminbird.com and look up the Onix unit under products. You should see a link under "support" to download the installation guide and owner's manual. It will help a lot. I mounted my Onix transducer on the same bracket as my old HDSI transducer. The front part is about 1/8" under the hull, the back part is 3/4" under.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/31/14 07:55 PM
One more problem popping up with my bird. It will randomly shut down/crash while I'm running.
I've checked the power cable and it's solid. But the unit acts like it's losing power as it just goes black.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/31/14 10:44 PM
Which software version are you running?
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/31/14 11:58 PM
1.2
The latest.
Posted By: Nick2021
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/04/14 02:28 AM
Today went out to do some fishing…..my 1199 started up fine and got to the point where you press exit to go the the screen….as SI/DI was coming up, unit went black. Now when I start the unit up, it goes light greenish/blackish….little bummed….just got this a month ago. Any ideas what's going on? Fuse is good, connections are good….power connectors are good….downloaded the most recent software when I first got it.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/04/14 03:40 PM
Howdy,
I have had my 999 a few weeks now and I still think I have some setting issues with it. Can anyone help me out explaining these images?
What are the white streaks in this image?
The next 3 shots are the same bridge culvert. The blue images are done with my unit. The amber picture is of the same culvert done with a Lowrance HDS12 (pic stolen from another forum). Why are my images so cluttered and why doesn’t the tree show up as clean? I think I had the sensitivity around 12 and the contrast at 10ish.
Lowrance image
Thanks Darryl
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/05/14 01:35 AM
Howdy,
I have had my 999 a few weeks now and I still think I have some setting issues with it. Can anyone help me out explaining these images?
What are the white streaks in this image?
The next 3 shots are the same bridge culvert. The blue images are done with my unit. The amber picture is of the same culvert done with a Lowrance HDS12 (pic stolen from another forum). Why are my images so cluttered and why doesn’t the tree show up as clean? I think I had the sensitivity around 12 and the contrast at 10ish.
Lowrance image
Thanks Darryl
That looks like it could be one of two things.... first guess is electronic noise... second is air bubbles flowing under the transducer.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/14 02:13 AM
I did run the power off the fuse block instead of running a dedicated line to the battery...lazy, I know. I will change that and test it this weekend. How do I check for air bubbles under the transducer?
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR ANYONE DO THIS YET? - 08/06/14 03:23 AM
when the dedicated down imagine units came out from humminbird I called and asked if the down image transducer would work on one of my 898s instead of the side image transducer, and was told no, it would not work. well I stumbled across a tech note from humminbird that said that it will work, as long as the down image is set to wide view.
Can I use the Down Imaging transducer with my Side Imaging Unit?
If you own one of our high definition side imaging products you can use a down imaging transducer with it to improve your down imaging readings.
You will great readings if DI width is set to wide (this is the default). If you change to narrow, you will get no readings.
Your 2D readings will not be as good because the 2D element in the DI transducer is smaller; therefore, weaker than the 2D element in the SI transducer
You will not get any SI views that are correct.
It is best to use this DI transducer in conjunction with a transducer switch so that you can alternate between the DI imaging transducer and the SI transducer when viewing specific SI and 2D views.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR ANYONE DO THIS YET? - 08/06/14 05:04 AM
I did run the power off the fuse block instead of running a dedicated line to the battery...lazy, I know. I will change that and test it this weekend. How do I check for air bubbles under the transducer?
If possible lower the transducer about a 1/4" and see if it clears up.
On some Hulls there are more bubbles than others. If it is a bubble issue you might have to move the transducer all together.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR ANYONE DO THIS YET? - 08/06/14 04:23 PM
What are the best settings for vertical drop shot fishing to see the fish and your worm? I assume it is Max Mode and then increase the chart speed? This is on a 958c located on the front deck. Thx.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/14 08:05 PM
I did run the power off the fuse block instead of running a dedicated line to the battery...lazy, I know. I will change that and test it this weekend. How do I check for air bubbles under the transducer?
Water flowing off the bottom of the hull is aerated some and that aerated water reflects sonar pulses. The blurry line on the left side is that. Since the keel is lower than your transducer, that side is what produces the most aeration when moving. You cannot fix that unless you lower the transducer about another 12" and you don't want to do that.
It will not be present when sitting still.
The distinct line part of those lines are sonar echos from some hard surface to the left of the transducer--either a jackplate, some other hull attachement or a hull feature.
Humminbird Side Imaging "sees" from the water's
surface to past vertical under the transducer on both sides. That is more than 180 degrees of coverage since the transducer is submerged.
Posted By: Nick2021
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/12/14 04:44 PM
Well, after checking connections, fuse, and voltage from power connector, I sent my 1199 unit to HB for servicing under the warranty (they also covered the shipping costs). Bad circuit board....was a little surprised a 1 month old unit failed on me so soon but glad it got fixed and the service was top-notch. Really happy to finally be getting it back. I do like their flat fee servicing after the warranty expires too...hoping this unit will last for some time
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/15/14 09:09 PM
I keep getting a "not connected to GPS" error on my 1197c. I have a GPS receiver at the rear of my boat. Everything appears to be hooked up and this just started happening. Any ideas? The 1197 is networked to my 958c in the bow and I can switch to that GPS but I still need to figure out what is wrong with the 1197 and its GPS receiver.
Thanks.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/15/14 09:19 PM
Onix 10 is losing the bottom when I get up on plane. I'm guessing I need to have the transducer mounted a bit lower on the hull.
Boat is a Sportsman Masters 247 center console. The transducer is mounted almost flush with the bottom of the hull.
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/15/14 11:49 PM
Yep, lower it about 1/4"
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/16/14 12:07 AM
That's what I thought. I'll find someone to do the work as I know my skill set doesn't support drilling holes in my boat below the water line.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/16/14 02:11 AM
You should be able to drop that transducer down a bit without having to drill new holes. I am seeing bottom at 56mph on my Sea Hunt with the 2D and DI. Main thing is since the transducer moves some because of the break away feature, you have to line it up with the hull in the up position.
Wish I had a better picture but if you look past the TM150 and HDI transducers, you can see the Onix one on the other side. That's with the boat level so you can see I have the front part about 1/4" down and the back about 1". Once under way, the back will raise about 1/4" or so.
If you need more pics let me know and I'll go to the shop tomorrow and take some close ups.
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/14 04:41 AM
I need help on getting my settings right for the 360. The readings seem to be a lot darker then the regular side imaging. I can see the clouds of bait fish, but I'm having a hard time seeing the bigger fish. Can somebody help me?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/14 05:03 PM
I need help on getting my settings right for the 360. The readings seem to be a lot darker then the regular side imaging. I can see the clouds of bait fish, but I'm having a hard time seeing the bigger fish. Can somebody help me?
Adjust the Sensitivity just like you would with Side Imaging.
Also try some other colors to see which one produces the best images for you.
I prefer Amber1
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/14 05:24 PM
I tried that and it just seems really dark to me. Maybe I just need more time on the water with it.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/14 10:02 PM
I tried that and it just seems really dark to me. Maybe I just need more time on the water with it.
You want some "darkness" so fish will not be so washed-out against the bottom that you cannot see them.
Shellcrackers on beds:
Posted By: Zach S
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/22/14 03:35 AM
Sorry I took it with my phone. I've had this 998si HD for a year and I don't think it's performing like it should. I was thinking it may be the way the transducer is mounted. I have it mounted to a 12" slidemaster jack plate with a transducer shield and saver. I have messed with the settings and updated software and it never improves. Any ideas why I don't get good arches or maybe someone can help me with my settings. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/22/14 04:00 AM
Sorry I took it with my phone. I've had this 998si HD for a year and I don't think it's performing like it should. I was thinking it may be the way the transducer is mounted. I have it mounted to a 12" slidemaster jack plate with a transducer shield and saver. I have messed with the settings and updated software and it never improves. Any ideas why I don't get good arches or maybe someone can help me with my settings. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If I had to guess without seeing your transducer, I would guess it might be pointing forward too much.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/22/14 12:38 PM
Sorry I took it with my phone. I've had this 998si HD for a year and I don't think it's performing like it should. I was thinking it may be the way the transducer is mounted. I have it mounted to a 12" slidemaster jack plate with a transducer shield and saver. I have messed with the settings and updated software and it never improves. Any ideas why I don't get good arches or maybe someone can help me with my settings. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Number one issue is understanding how arches are recorded on a LCR display.
It is a result of time and distance of a subject in the sonar pulse and the display scroll speed.
If you view the sonar tutorial on the Lowrance web site, that will help you.
Additionally since the 83 kHz has a wider coverage, you will be better arches since the fish are in the sonar pulse longer. I see your setting is 200 kHz.
You can slow down and get better arches with the settings you are using = more time in the sonar pulse.
Posted By: Zach S
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/22/14 05:33 PM
I was thinking about moving it back a little bit but that would require me drilling another hole in the jack plate. Everytime I put it on 83 kHz I never can get it adjusted correctly to see anything. It gets very pixelated. I have also tried 200/83 and that didnt work very well either. All these pictures I see posted with Humminbirds look alot better than mine. Ive watched all of Doug Vahrenberg's videos about settings and I just cant get mine to look like it should.
Posted By: leanin post
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/14 11:47 PM
I know what the problem is... you need to adjust the seperate 83KHZ setting in the menu . It will make all the difference. Many people dont even realize it is there/.
Posted By: BKT
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/04/14 09:37 PM
I'm thinking about putting a SI unit on my yak so my question is: Is a 5" screen to small to see what's what with SI?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/06/14 06:41 PM
I'm thinking about putting a SI unit on my yak so my question is: Is a 5" screen to small to see what's what with SI?
It is certainly adequate for a location close to you.
It should be a square screen 5" unit though like the Humminbirds(798 or 598) instead of the narrow screen Humminbird 698ci HD SI.
Screen width is the most important feature for Side Imaging.
The new Humminbird Helix 5 series due out in December would be a good small/wide screen choice for a kayak.
Posted By: UncleJed
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/06/14 08:13 PM
I need help on getting my settings right for the 360. The readings seem to be a lot darker then the regular side imaging. I can see the clouds of bait fish, but I'm having a hard time seeing the bigger fish. Can somebody help me?
I am having the direct OPPOSITE of this issue...My 360 picture is so light that I cannot hardly distinguish the white returns from the background colors,and I have tried all the colors available (899ci unit) and have tried all the "enhancement" settings, contrast ,sharpness,etc...Never have been able to get it right since new...Was purchased along with the 899 unit ,and upon arrival,I found that I had to purchase a short adapter cable to make it connect to the head unit cause they had changed the plugs from the 898 to the 899 units.Now I'm wondering if that adapter cable could be causing some fading of the picture quality? I would be THRILLED to get a picture as good as the one shone earlier in this thread!
Posted By: BKT
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/14 05:30 PM
I'm thinking about putting a SI unit on my yak so my question is: Is a 5" screen to small to see what's what with SI?
It is certainly adequate for a location close to you.
It should be a square screen 5" unit though like the Humminbirds(798 or 598) instead of the narrow screen Humminbird 698ci HD SI.
Screen width is the most important feature for Side Imaging.
The new Humminbird Helix 5 series due out in December would be a good small/wide screen choice for a kayak.
Thanks. I guess I'll wait until then and see what it offers...
Posted By: RConner
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/14 09:19 PM
I have a 797 that has been being use for a couple of years in the front of the boat. I just purchased a GPS antenna and hooked it up but cannot get the unit to show and maps at all. I have a Lakemaster chip in it but it is like all the gps screens are gone. How can I get them back?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/11/14 12:34 AM
I have a 797 that has been being use for a couple of years in the front of the boat. I just purchased a GPS antenna and hooked it up but cannot get the unit to show and maps at all. I have a Lakemaster chip in it but it is like all the gps screens are gone. How can I get them back?
Which GPS antenna did you purchase?
What software version does the unit have?
Posted By: RConner
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/11/14 01:39 AM
The software is 4.770. The antenna is an AS GR50. I have tried the old antenna that came with the 797, but nothing and it work before I move it to the front.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/11/14 11:53 AM
The software is 4.770. The antenna is an AS GR50. I have tried the old antenna that came with the 797, but nothing and it work before I move it to the front.
Update your software to see if that will fix it.
Additionally provide proper power to the unit. Not the boat wiring harness.
Posted By: BigPoppa007
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/11/14 02:19 PM
I have a 859 HD DI that runs 200/455/800 no 83mhz. Running 455 in DI I get good returns but if I put it in 800 screen looks terrible - what's the 800 MHz setting for?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/11/14 05:01 PM
I have a 859 HD DI that runs 200/455/800 no 83mhz. Running 455 in DI I get good returns but if I put it in 800 screen looks terrible - what's the 800 MHz setting for?
800 kHz is for Down Imaging, you have to use different settings than with 455 kHz DI. The 800 kHz has a more focused sonar pulse and when tuned properly it gives sharper images, but suited for shallow depths.
You do have 83 kHz if you use the correct settings and transducer.
The DI transducer that is tuned for 83/200 kHz 2D sonar is the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T which is a trolling motor puck.
Out of the box, the unit uses 200 kHz and 455 kHz for 2D sonar.
Posted By: RConner
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/15/14 06:24 PM
I have a 797 that has been being use for a couple of years in the front of the boat. I just purchased a GPS antenna and hooked it up but cannot get the unit to show and maps at all. I have a Lakemaster chip in it but it is like all the gps screens are gone. How can I get them back?
Which GPS antenna did you purchase?
What software version does the unit have?
I have done all of this and there is still no tab in the menu for charts and no charts can be viewed. What now?
Posted By: GoFishNow
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/23/14 11:00 PM
800 kHz is for Down Imaging, you have to use different settings than with 455 kHz DI. The 800 kHz has a more focused sonar pulse and when tuned properly it gives sharper images, but suited for shallow depths.
Shallow depths such as...1 to 10 feet or something less than say 40 feet?
Posted By: Nutman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/30/14 12:01 PM
On the 899HDSI can you move the information bar to the bottom of the screen ?
Right now it shows on the left side of the screen.
if so, HOW.
I have looked & read and looked and read, but cannot find any info on this.
THX
On the 899HDSI can you move the information bar to the bottom of the screen ?
Right now it shows on the left side of the screen.
if so, HOW.
I have looked & read and looked and read, but cannot find any info on this.
THX
You can not move readouts from side to the bottom. You can remove them all together on side image view only.
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Posted By: Nutman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/14 12:05 PM
Thanks;
One more issue on my HB 899......
works great when not on plane,,,,,but when running the lake it will not read depths.
The ducer is located on the jackplate. Where should it be mounted to get a good reading when going fast ?
Thanks;
One more issue on my HB 899......
works great when not on plane,,,,,but when running the lake it will not read depths.
The ducer is located on the jackplate. Where should it be mounted to get a good reading when going fast ?
All SI units will loose depth, SI and DI while on a plane. You need to get the Humminbird AS SIDB Y Cable f/Side Image & Dual Beam and the Humminbird XP-9-20 Puck Transducer in order to achieve depth readings while on plane. You will still not have SI or DI on plane. Only depth with the added in hull transducer.
Posted By: Nutman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/05/14 09:02 AM
Thank You for the response.
Now I do not have to move that transducer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/05/14 05:03 PM
Thank You for the response.
Now I do not have to move that transducer.
Maybe you don't understand how a boat functions on the water.
When on plane, the bottom of the hull is on the surface. There is no water on the transom. Your jackplate does not extend all the way down to the bottom of the hull so there is no way for a jackplate mounted transducer to give you any data when on plane.
Sonar doesn't work through air, it has to have water contact either directly or shooting through the bottom of the hull.
Posted By: Waco Crappie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/14 02:10 AM
Does anyone have any ideas of how I can improve my images? I was wondering if my transducer is tilted to much, can anyone tell judging from my pictures? This is a Humminbird 999 on 455khz traveling at 3-4 Mph chart speed 4 contrast and sensitivity at 10-12 each. I know this bridge area has a lot of crappie but how can I distinguish crappie from baitfish to locate them better? I want to hone in on the big groups better. Any ideas?
Give us an image of your transducer mounted to your boat.....
Posted By: Waco Crappie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/14 12:59 PM
Transducer mounting looks to be fine. I would try trimming it up a tad to a bit more level. Review the video from Doug below and play with your settings to get the unit dialed in better. Try the regular Humminbird blue template. It will show detail much better than the green.
Also recommended:
Take a trip out to Lake Fork and visit with Slade Doughtarty (aka) forkfish here on this forum. He would be very happy to get you schooled on the how to's for your bird. His info is below....
Lake Fork Electronics Training Guide
Slade Dougharty
817 797 8762
slade.dougharty.sd@gmail.com
Posted By: AvaryJ
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/18/14 06:37 PM
I had the same problem. Called Humminbird and they told me to run the power directly to the battery. Fixed the problem. But also check your battery. My battery was also completely charged but that means nothing if it's a year older or better. Bad cells don't show their ugly faces right after a good full charge. They creep up intermediately like while your at the bow fishing.......
Posted By: Hog Jaw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 02:36 PM
I have a 1198 mounted on the bow , powered by a dedicated battery , was on the lake turned it on pushed exit , GPS info displayed but no other views , took the unit and hooked it up to the console and same thing , have a 1197 on the console. It was fine earlier . Any suggestions ? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 03:01 PM
[quote=Hog Jaw]I have a 1198 mounted on the bow , powered by a dedicated battery , was on the lake turned it on pushed exit , GPS info displayed but no other views , took the unit and hooked it up to the console and same thing , have a 1197 on the console. It was fine earlier . Any suggestions ? Thanks [/quot
Did you accidently turn off the sonar?
Check your unit settings and/or do a Default setting.
Posted By: Hog Jaw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 03:08 PM
Do not know but will follow up on your comments , thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 03:22 PM
Transducer mounting looks to be fine. I would try trimming it up a tad to a bit more level. Review the video from Doug below and play with your settings to get the unit dialed in better. Try the regular Humminbird blue template. It will show detail much better than the green.
Also recommended:
Take a trip out to Lake Fork and visit with Slade Doughtarty (aka) forkfish here on this forum. He would be very happy to get you schooled on the how to's for your bird. His info is below....
Lake Fork Electronics Training Guide
Slade Dougharty
817 797 8762
slade.dougharty.sd@gmail.com
His posted images are from playing back a recording on his computer with HumViewer software. HumViewer displays the full unfiltered data, not adjusted by the unit settings. Changing the color will do just that, it doesn't affect the image quality. That has to be done with the HumViewer settings.
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 03:28 PM
Shut-up-and-fish: I have an 898si/di and when using it I can get 4ft for depth and then all of a sudden the transducer will go to 0ft and I know I'm in 10ft of water. The transducer does this all the time now and the transducer is 3years old. Everything else works great. I'm taking this as the transducer is going bad am I correct on this? Thanks for your help.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/14 03:34 PM
Shut-up-and-fish: I have an 898si/di and when using it I can get 4ft for depth and then all of a sudden the transducer will go to 0ft and I know I'm in 10ft of water. The transducer does this all the time now and the transducer is 3years old. Everything else works great. I'm taking this as the transducer is going bad am I correct on this? Thanks for your help.
What transducer are you using for 2D sonar?
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 12:41 AM
Wayne P: I have a lowrance 5x in the sump area and the hummingbird will still show 4ft or 0ft with the lowrance turned off so im stuck here, Thanks for your help. Larry
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 12:57 AM
Wayne P: I have a lowrance 5x in the sump area and the hummingbird will still show 4ft or 0ft with the lowrance turned off so im stuck here, Thanks for your help. Larry
What
Humminbird transducer are you using for 2D sonar?
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 01:15 AM
Wayne P: The transducer Im using is the one that came with the 898sI/dI. I hope this answers your question. Larry.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 01:23 AM
Wayne P: The transducer Im using is the one that came with the 898sI/dI. I hope this answers your question. Larry.
Not completely but:
If the glitch occurs when sitting still, you have a possible failing transducer.
If you have the SI transducer mounted to give you on-plane depth readings and have that issue when underway, you may just have to adjust its attitude on the transom.
Did you do the install of the Humminbird and know all the parts used for that installation?
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 02:23 AM
Wayne P; The transducer starts out at 4ft and with in 50 ft it will change to 0ft, It will stay that way till you get on plane and then goes back to 4ft and then another short distance it'll change back to 0ft. Yes I did the install and when I went to put the transducer on I mounted it on a transducer shield& saver. I leveled the transducer and mount before I tighten it down and then releveled it again to make sure everything was correct. I then took it to the lake at which time everything worked great. Thanks for your in put and knowledge. Larry. By the way hummingbird say the 898s1/d1 takes a XHS HDSI 180T transom mount transducer. Thanks again.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 03:29 PM
Wayne P; The transducer starts out at 4ft and with in 50 ft it will change to 0ft, It will stay that way till you get on plane and then goes back to 4ft and then another short distance it'll change back to 0ft. Yes I did the install and when I went to put the transducer on I mounted it on a transducer shield& saver. I leveled the transducer and mount before I tighten it down and then releveled it again to make sure everything was correct. I then took it to the lake at which time everything worked great. Thanks for your in put and knowledge. Larry. By the way hummingbird say the 898s1/d1 takes a XHS HDSI 180T transom mount transducer. Thanks again.
Where exactly on the transom did you attach the SI transducer?
Did you read the PM I sent you?
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 11:55 PM
Wayne P: The transducer is on the jackplate on the left side looking from the front.
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/14 11:56 PM
Wayne P: I did not receive your PM that you sent. Larry
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/14 12:14 AM
Wayne P: I did not receive your PM that you sent. Larry
OK, I will resend it. It is in my message file.
NOW, with the transducer on the jackplate, when you are moving, the amount of water on the transom gets less as you go faster. When on plane it is not in the water so it cannot give you depth.
If the PM makes it this time, it will explain the proper setup for your boat.
Posted By: NITRO Z8
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/14 12:33 AM
Wayne P: Thanks so much for your information and knowledge and help and I will get on this asap and see how I do on your information, Thanks again. Larry.
Posted By: Minner Bucket
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/27/14 02:02 AM
I recently had a 998 linked via Ethernet cable to an 898. Last wk end I marked a couple waypoints on my console unit (998) and when I jumped up to fish the spot, the waypoints did not show up on my bow mounted 898.. Is there a setting on the units that I need to " turn on" in order to share waypoints between the 2 units, or could there be another problem? Thanks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/27/14 02:01 PM
I recently had a 998 linked via Ethernet cable to an 898. Last wk end I marked a couple waypoints on my console unit (998) and when I jumped up to fish the spot, the waypoints did not show up on my bow mounted 898.. Is there a setting on the units that I need to " turn on" in order to share waypoints between the 2 units, or could there be another problem? Thanks.
The default setting for Ethernet is waypoint sharing. Both units have to be on to do that.
Waypoints are not written to the other unit's memory. They are displayed in a different color.
Additionally if you have Snapshot turned on, you must have a memory card in the unit for it to save waypoints.
Posted By: Minner Bucket
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/29/14 06:33 PM
Thanks Wayne, so I need to make sure waypoint sharing is turned on, on both units, and snapshot is turned off. I have Navionics chips in both units but I'm assuming that is not considered a memory card, right? Also, what is snapshot? Is that a way to take pics of screenshots? If so, I do not use that function, so I do not need snapshot turned on in my units.. Thanks for your help.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/29/14 11:36 PM
You have to have a separate memory card in the unit for Snapshots, and Recordings.
When you start a recording, the unit creates a waypoint with a "R" prefix.
A Snapshot is a saved photo of the view displayed when you push the MARK button.
When you take a snapshot, the unit creates a waypoint with a "S" prefix.
At the same time the snaphot has a file attached that relates it to the Chart view. When you are at one of the "S" prefix waypoints, a thumbnail photo will be displayed on the screen showing that snapshot.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/29/14 11:38 PM
[quote=dmr183]Thanks Wayne, so I need to make sure waypoint sharing is turned on, on both units, and snapshot is turned off. I have Navionics chips in both units but I'm assuming that is not considered a memory card, right? Also, what is snapshot? Is that a way to take pics of screenshots? If so, I do not use that function, so I do not need snapshot turned on in my units.. Thanks for your help. [/
quote]
One more thing, keep your map card locked when it is in your unit/s.
The only time it should be unlocked is when doing a Freshest Data update on your computer.
Posted By: Minner Bucket
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/29/14 11:53 PM
Thanks Wayne P. Im headed out either this wk end or next so I will mess around with them.
Posted By: Minner Bucket
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/30/14 12:28 AM
Hey Wayne, I just went to the garage and hooked up my graphs. They were both set to share waypoints and snapshot was turned off on both. Only other thing I can think of is maybe my bow unit was off when I marked those waypoints.. I don't remember, but they both have to be on in order to share waypoints right?
Posted By: lakewood
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/03/14 01:50 PM
I just purchased a 899si hd. Would someone be willing to share their settings, to many post to read. I fish in a 11' boat so i normally fish shallow.
All help would appreciated.
I just purchased a 899si hd. Would someone be willing to share their settings, to many post to read. I fish in a 11' boat so i normally fish shallow.
All help would appreciated.
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Posted By: lakewood
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/14 11:09 AM
Where is the imaging frequency setting on the 899ci si hd. Thanks for the help,i watched a ton of your vids.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/14 12:48 PM
Where is the imaging frequency setting on the 899ci si hd. Thanks for the help,i watched a ton of your vids.
Push the Menu button twice.
The frequency settings are in the Sonar menu tab.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/08/14 05:41 PM
What would cause my 999 with external gps to never get a fix? Also in diagnostic view it keeps flashing sattelites the. None, the. A different configuration. It does the same on internal but the fix changes to enhanced. I have the latest update i believe. Couple of months ago...i have video but cant post it from my phone.
Thanks darryl
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/08/14 05:53 PM
What would cause my 999 with external gps to never get a fix? Also in diagnostic view it keeps flashing sattelites the. None, the. A different configuration. It does the same on internal but the fix changes to enhanced. I have the latest update i believe. Couple of months ago...i have video but cant post it from my phone.
Thanks darryl
The number one cause could be low power. Did you extend the unit power cord directly to the battery with at least 14 guage wire?
Do a restore defaults setting and if that does not clear it up, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/09/14 01:01 AM
What would cause my 999 with external gps to never get a fix? Also in diagnostic view it keeps flashing sattelites the. None, the. A different configuration. It does the same on internal but the fix changes to enhanced. I have the latest update i believe. Couple of months ago...i have video but cant post it from my phone.
Thanks darryl
The number one cause could be low power. Did you extend the unit power cord directly to the battery with at least 14 guage wire?
Do a restore defaults setting and if that does not clear it up, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
Reset to default didn't help. Soldered in the wiring to eliminate the butt splices. I guess I'm calling now.
Thanks
Posted By: Falcon Native
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/18/14 01:07 AM
Question? I just purchased a 1199 brand new and moved my 997c si to the bow. The 997 shows to be participating in the inner link network, but I cannot get the 1199 at the console to even show the ability to participate. Any recommendations? Thanks in Advance
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/18/14 04:56 PM
Question? I just purchased a 1199 brand new and moved my 997c si to the bow. The 997 shows to be participating in the inner link network, but I cannot get the 1199 at the console to even show the ability to participate. Any recommendations? Thanks in Advance
As stated below, the 1199 is not compatable with INTERLINK as well as any other 2014 year models.
That product has been discontinued.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/22/14 10:32 PM
What would cause my 999 with external gps to never get a fix? Also in diagnostic view it keeps flashing sattelites the. None, the. A different configuration. It does the same on internal but the fix changes to enhanced. I have the latest update i believe. Couple of months ago...i have video but cant post it from my phone.
Thanks darryl
The number one cause could be low power. Did you extend the unit power cord directly to the battery with at least 14 guage wire?
Do a restore defaults setting and if that does not clear it up, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
Reset to default didn't help. Soldered in the wiring to eliminate the butt splices. I guess I'm calling now.
Thanks
It was a bad GPS puck. Got it back from Humminbird and back on this morning. Now to patiently wait until Black Friday to go fish.
Posted By: jpenwell
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/01/14 09:22 PM
I have a 596 hd di that quit powering up. Wont turn on. It's less than 1 1/2 yrs old. Only thing unusual it quit after a day on the water with light drizzle. Power connector has correct voltage. Any thoughts? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/02/14 12:38 AM
I have a 596 hd di that quit powering up. Wont turn on. It's less than 1 1/2 yrs old. Only thing unusual it quit after a day on the water with light drizzle. Power connector has correct voltage. Any thoughts? Thanks
PM Sent
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/08/14 03:05 PM
I have a 1-year old group 24 battery in my boat as the cranking battery. I have the 999 on the console direct to this battery. I am not exactly sure where the 859 bow unit goes to...it may go to the fuse panel which I assume is on the cranking battery as well, or is wired direct to the cranking. I went fishing yesterday and was doing a lot of trolling and drifting. I had a dead cranking battery after about 7 hours of fishing. I only ran the boat about ten minutes tops on the big motor throughout that day.
Do I need a group 31 battery or do I need to run the big motor "X" amount of minutes per hour instead of just draining it? I had to swap to a trolling motor battery to get me back to the dock.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/08/14 04:54 PM
I have a 1-year old group 24 battery in my boat as the cranking battery. I have the 999 on the console direct to this battery. I am not exactly sure where the 859 bow unit goes to...it may go to the fuse panel which I assume is on the cranking battery as well, or is wired direct to the cranking. I went fishing yesterday and was doing a lot of trolling and drifting. I had a dead cranking battery after about 7 hours of fishing. I only ran the boat about ten minutes tops on the big motor throughout that day.
Do I need a group 31 battery or do I need to run the big motor "X" amount of minutes per hour instead of just draining it? I had to swap to a trolling motor battery to get me back to the dock.
When you don't run your outboard enough to keep it charged, you are requiring the starting battery to be a deep cycle and a starting battery. A 24 size typically can't handle that task.
Most choose the largest dual purpose battery they have room for that has the MCA the outboard requires. Lots recommend the Sears Platinum Diehard PM-1 size 31.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/08/14 06:53 PM
I have a 1-year old group 24 battery in my boat as the cranking battery. I have the 999 on the console direct to this battery. I am not exactly sure where the 859 bow unit goes to...it may go to the fuse panel which I assume is on the cranking battery as well, or is wired direct to the cranking. I went fishing yesterday and was doing a lot of trolling and drifting. I had a dead cranking battery after about 7 hours of fishing. I only ran the boat about ten minutes tops on the big motor throughout that day.
Do I need a group 31 battery or do I need to run the big motor "X" amount of minutes per hour instead of just draining it? I had to swap to a trolling motor battery to get me back to the dock.
When you don't run your outboard enough to keep it charged, you are requiring the starting battery to be a deep cycle and a starting battery. A 24 size typically can't handle that task.
Most choose the largest dual purpose battery they have room for that has the MCA the outboard requires. Lots recommend the Sears Platinum Diehard PM-1 size 31.
Thanks Wayne for confirming what I was thinking...the wallet just didn't want to hear it.
Posted By: Oldrabbit
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/04/15 12:16 AM
In need of some help, I have a Humming Bird 597dHD and a Fortrex 80 / US2 24 volt. All works well until I step on the foot control, speed setting doesn't seem to matter and the depth goes from what ever is the actual depth to 30 to 300 feet. When I get off of the pedal and the motor stops in a few seconds the screen returns to normal. I have tried different settings, ran an independent ground, ran an independent hot wire, moved all of the cables away from each other and nothing changes. I have searched the thread and could not find this problem addressed. Any help will be appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/04/15 12:23 AM
In need of some help, I have a Humming Bird 597dHD and a Fortrex 80 / US2 24 volt. All works well until I step on the foot control, speed setting doesn't seem to matter and the depth goes from what ever is the actual depth to 30 to 300 feet. When I get off of the pedal and the motor stops in a few seconds the screen returns to normal. I have tried different settings, ran an independent ground, ran an independent hot wire, moved all of the cables away from each other and nothing changes. I have searched the thread and could not find this problem addressed. Any help will be appreciated.
Call Humminbird Customer Service to get help with your RFI issue.
It's discussed often on lots of fish/boating web sites and is not unique to Humminbird units.
BTW, have you checked the fuse on the ground wire in the head??
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/15 12:42 AM
just purchased the 899 hd si. what transducer do i select in the menu
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/12/15 04:06 PM
just purchased the 899 hd si. what transducer do i select in the menu
The one that comes with the unit is Compact Sidescan.
If you want to experiment with 800 kHz you can choose Hi-def SIdescan, but that works better with the HDSI transducer.
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/14/15 03:02 PM
thanks, another question. does my 899 hd si with navionics plus have water level offset. i cant find it anywhere.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/14/15 03:24 PM
thanks, another question. does my 899 hd si with navionics plus have water level offset. i cant find it anywhere.
No, Navionics with Humminbird units do not have that feature.
You would only have Shaded Depth to highlight from the shoreline to whatever depth in Blue.
Lakemaster has that feature.
Posted By: chargerboat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/16/15 03:40 PM
Does anybody know if you can hook up a tablet as a slave monitor on the video outputs on a 898????
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/16/15 10:55 PM
Does anybody know if you can hook up a tablet as a slave monitor on the video outputs on a 898????
I answered your BBC post.
Posted By: chargerboat
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/17/15 05:09 AM
Roger that thanks
Does the new Helix 5 Sonar-GPS $ 299, in the BPS 2015 catalogs,
have the ability to display the GPS/Chart on a full screen ?
Or is it only displayed on 1/2 of the screen with the sonar ?
I'm looking to replace my old gray scale chartplotter.
Thanks
Posted By: RangerBass21
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/15 02:41 PM
Does the new Helix 5 Sonar-GPS $ 299, in the BPS 2015 catalogs,
have the ability to display the GPS/Chart on a full screen ?
Or is it only displayed on 1/2 of the screen with the sonar ?
I'm looking to replace my old gray scale chartplotter.
Thanks
Yes you can display the gps/chart on a full screen.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/15 04:51 PM
Does the new Helix 5 Sonar-GPS $ 299, in the BPS 2015 catalogs,
have the ability to display the GPS/Chart on a full screen ?
Or is it only displayed on 1/2 of the screen with the sonar ?
I'm looking to replace my old gray scale chartplotter.
Thanks
Yes you can display the gps/chart on a full screen.
It should have a Sonar OFF setting like all the other Humminbird Combo units have. Then you don't even have to connect a transducer to it. I will be GPS/Chart only.
Thanks to both of you. Much wisdom found on TFF.
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/25/15 11:42 PM
on a hb 899 is there a way to tell me how many miles ive driven or how many miles it is from a to b
Posted By: txwhitetail
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/15 12:11 AM
Anyone know if a 859 can be linked with an 1198 and 998 ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/15 12:21 AM
Anyone know if a 859 can be linked with an 1198 and 998 ?
Yes, both 859's via Ethernet.
The 859ci HD Combo will share 83/200 kHz with the others.
The 859ci HD DI Combo will share 200 kHz with the others.
All will share GPS data.
Posted By: txwhitetail
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/15 12:37 AM
Yeah I just want to share waypoints
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/15 01:19 AM
on a hb 899 is there a way to tell me how many miles ive driven or how many miles it is from a to b
Choose Trip Log as a digital readout and do a Triplog Reset before you start.
Posted By: skeeter61
Re: Humminbird - 01/26/15 10:39 PM
I have the 1198 model. I did a factory reset and wiped out all my waypoints. Is there anyway to recover them? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/27/15 01:24 AM
I have the 1198 model. I did a factory reset and wiped out all my waypoints. Is there anyway to recover them? Thanks
Reset Defaults did not delete your waypoints.
You have to intentionally Delete them or do a Format Nav Directories to get rid of them.
Check your waypoint library. Menu Nav tab, down to Waypoints, Routes, Tracks and right arrow the 4-way button. The list should be there unless you did an intentional Delete or Format.
Posted By: skeeter61
Re: Humminbird - 01/27/15 02:21 AM
Thanks Wayne I will check at the lake tomm.
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird - 01/29/15 04:44 PM
Is it true that ONix and 1100 series will not share way points ,
and that you can't load waypoints on to a card and import to the Onix ?
MO
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird - 01/29/15 05:05 PM
Onix units do not communicate with anything but other Onix units. You can transfer waypoints but you have to run them through HumminbirdPC first.
Onix won't even communicate with Ion.
Ok so I have a question that I am sure has been asked before but I will ask it anyways.
I have a 999HDSI Depth finder and the boat that I bought had a 598SI or something like that. Point is can I use the HD Side imaging transducer as my dedicated Side Imaging transducer and the transducer from the 598SI as my dedicated 2D by connecting them both using a AS SIDB Y cable connected to my 999 monitor?
First I removed the old transducer but found I cannot see anything with the HD transducer past 7 mph but when I had the old transducer on the boat I could get readings in 2D at 20+ mph. The big fat HD transducer just doesnt seem to cut it in my opinion unless you are moving real slow even for 2D.
BTW my boat is a 17 ft Crestliner fishhawk
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/29/15 09:44 PM
Ok so I have a question that I am sure has been asked before but I will ask it anyways.
I have a 999HDSI Depth finder and the boat that I bought had a 598SI or something like that. Point is can I use the HD Side imaging transducer as my dedicated Side Imaging transducer and the transducer from the 598SI as my dedicated 2D by connecting them both using a AS SIDB Y cable connected to my 999 monitor?
First I removed the old transducer but found I cannot see anything with the HD transducer past 7 mph but when I had the old transducer on the boat I could get readings in 2D at 20+ mph. The big fat HD transducer just doesnt seem to cut it in my opinion unless you are moving real slow even for 2D.
BTW my boat is a 17 ft Crestliner fishhawk
Yes you can. The AS SIDB Y cable will disconnect the 83/200 kHz crystal in the HDSI transducer and connect only the 83/200 kHz crystal in the Compact SI transducer.
If you installed the HDSI correctly for your hull, it will give you the same on-plane depth readings as the Compact SI transducer. You just have to make the effort to do so.
I notice on reviews on Amazon that a couple of people said that they cannot get good depth readings below 6 feet. I sure hate to pay to a new 999 and then not be able to tell shallow depth, some of the water I fish in is only 2 to 3 feet. I know my present 570 will not do shallow depth and the manual says so. There is no mention of this in the manual I downloaded on the 999 to start learning it before I purchase it. Thanks in advance for the help.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/30/15 06:43 PM
I notice on reviews on Amazon that a couple of people said that they cannot get good depth readings below 6 feet. I sure hate to pay to a new 999 and then not be able to tell shallow depth, some of the water I fish in is only 2 to 3 feet. I know my present 570 will not do shallow depth and the manual says so. There is no mention of this in the manual I downloaded on the 999 to start learning it before I purchase it. Thanks in advance for the help.
If you are in true 2'-3' of water, your transducer is almost touching the bottom. The units will read 2'-3' below the transducer with no problem.
Posted By: txwhitetail
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/30/15 10:59 PM
Is there much of an advantage to using thru hull 2d transducer vs the HD side image transducer other than the high speed part?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/30/15 11:46 PM
Is there much of an advantage to using thru hull 2d transducer vs the HD side image transducer other than the high speed part?
The term is SHOOT-THRU.
A thru-hull takes a 1"+ hole through the hull bottom to install it on the exterior.
It may make a big difference to your wallet if you fish waters like Lake Fork.
The HDSI is $270 MSRP
You may not want that installed at the hull bottom to give you on-plane depth readings.
You can only use a shoot-thru transducer in hulls that are suitable for that application.
Posted By: txwhitetail
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/31/15 01:31 AM
Is there much of an advantage to using thru hull 2d transducer vs the HD side image transducer other than the high speed part?
The term is SHOOT-THRU.
A thru-hull takes a 1"+ hole through the hull bottom to install it on the exterior.
It may make a big difference to your wallet if you fish waters like Lake Fork.
The HDSI is $270 MSRP
You may not want that installed at the hull bottom to give you on-plane depth readings.
You can only use a shoot-thru transducer in hulls that are suitable for that application.
I have both on my skeeter with the Y cable. I keep having issues with the shoot thru keeps giving me issues jumping on and off depth readings. Thinking about just going all HD transducer on the jackplate was just wondering if I was going to be missing much. Don't really care about high speed 2d.
Posted By: Rockfisherman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/01/15 08:45 PM
I have an old 787 C2i unit
(Pre side and down imaging)
and am thinking about getting a new
899 SI Nav combo unit
Can they be linked together with my
Current unit being so old?
Thanks for help
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/15 02:00 AM
I have an old 787 C2i unit
(Pre side and down imaging)
and am thinking about getting a new
899 SI Nav combo unit
Can they be linked together with my
Current unit being so old?
Thanks for help
No, there is no connection that will work between those two units.
The 899ci HD SI Combo only uses Ethernet to share data and accessories.
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/06/15 06:03 PM
I have a 1-year old group 24 battery in my boat as the cranking battery. I have the 999 on the console direct to this battery. I am not exactly sure where the 859 bow unit goes to...it may go to the fuse panel which I assume is on the cranking battery as well, or is wired direct to the cranking. I went fishing yesterday and was doing a lot of trolling and drifting. I had a dead cranking battery after about 7 hours of fishing. I only ran the boat about ten minutes tops on the big motor throughout that day.
Do I need a group 31 battery or do I need to run the big motor "X" amount of minutes per hour instead of just draining it? I had to swap to a trolling motor battery to get me back to the dock.
When you don't run your outboard enough to keep it charged, you are requiring the starting battery to be a deep cycle and a starting battery. A 24 size typically can't handle that task.
Most choose the largest dual purpose battery they have room for that has the MCA the outboard requires. Lots recommend the Sears Platinum Diehard PM-1 size 31.
I am revisiting this issue. I have thought about adding a battery selector switch, changing to a bigger dual purpose cranking battery (as suggested), or adding a smaller 35AH deep cycle wheel chair battery to run the two units.
I am leaning towards adding the 35ah battery. Is there any reason I shouldn't go this route?
I don't have room for anything more than a group 27 as the cranking battery because I went 24volt on my trolling motor and am pretty space limited already in my beer can boat.
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/06/15 06:56 PM
I have a 1-year old group 24 battery in my boat as the cranking battery. I have the 999 on the console direct to this battery. I am not exactly sure where the 859 bow unit goes to...it may go to the fuse panel which I assume is on the cranking battery as well, or is wired direct to the cranking. I went fishing yesterday and was doing a lot of trolling and drifting. I had a dead cranking battery after about 7 hours of fishing. I only ran the boat about ten minutes tops on the big motor throughout that day.
Do I need a group 31 battery or do I need to run the big motor "X" amount of minutes per hour instead of just draining it? I had to swap to a trolling motor battery to get me back to the dock.
When you don't run your outboard enough to keep it charged, you are requiring the starting battery to be a deep cycle and a starting battery. A 24 size typically can't handle that task.
Most choose the largest dual purpose battery they have room for that has the MCA the outboard requires. Lots recommend the Sears Platinum Diehard PM-1 size 31.
I am revisiting this issue. I have thought about adding a battery selector switch, changing to a bigger dual purpose cranking battery (as suggested), or adding a smaller 35AH deep cycle wheel chair battery to run the two units.
I am leaning towards adding the 35ah battery. Is there any reason I shouldn't go this route?
I don't have room for anything more than a group 27 as the cranking battery because I went 24volt on my trolling motor and am pretty space limited already in my beer can boat.
Thanks
That size should get you through a day with just the sonar units powered.
Posted By: txwhitetail
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/15 02:52 AM
Have a large color block at top of screen on 2D sonar. I have tried all transducer settings, 83, 200, 83/200 etc and all have large color on top. Sometimes up to 7ft thick. Surface clutter is 1 and turned sensitivity down and doesn't help much. Any help would be appreciated. This is on an 1198 and 998 shoot thru transducer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/15 08:33 PM
You get that with 83 kHz and it is mostly surface clutter since 83 kHz has more coverage than 200 kHz.
As to get deeper it takes up less screen space but is the same thickness.
Additionally since you have a shoot-thru, some of that clutter is the transducer reading the hull.
If you run 200 kHz only and still have that wide color band, your shoot-thru may not be installed correctly and/or is coming loose from the hull.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/15 02:06 AM
I've got a Onix 10 combo unit with the 360 imaging. I upgraded the Onix to the latest version of the software and now it can't recognize my 360. Tried updating the 360 but the update fails every time.
Any ideas?
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/15 02:46 PM
Didnt get a chance to get out and try it. Should work fine.
Posted By: Waco Crappie
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/09/15 04:59 PM
Who are some of the guides who will setup and dial in your Hummingbird depth finders in Texas?
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/15 03:00 AM
I've got a Onix 10 combo unit with the 360 imaging. I upgraded the Onix to the latest version of the software and now it can't recognize my 360. Tried updating the 360 but the update fails every time.
Any ideas?
Did you use the update that came with the zip file for the 2.0 update?
Who are some of the guides who will setup and dial in your Hummingbird depth finders in Texas?
Your go to guy...Be sure and tell him David @ shut-up-and-fish sent ya.
Posted By: Streetwalker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/15 01:35 PM
I've got a Onix 10 combo unit with the 360 imaging. I upgraded the Onix to the latest version of the software and now it can't recognize my 360. Tried updating the 360 but the update fails every time.
Any ideas?
Did you use the update that came with the zip file for the 2.0 update?
Sure did. The update for the 360 was the same software that it had.
Posted By: Diel11
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/15 05:54 PM
Ok. When you power up the 360 listen for it to index itself. So turn the power on and get close to the transducer and you should hear a low humming and whirring. After that, try to the deploy it by hand using the buttons on the top. I had one of them die the same day I updated a unit and it had nothing to do with the update at all. If you have power to it, save all your settings to a SD card and restore defaults on the Onix. Then reboot the system and see if the 360 will show up. The first time after I updated to 2.0 it took about 3 minutes for the Onix to find the 360.
I've been thinking about getting a 998c hd si unit. Anybody have any opinions on this unit? Haven't seen any bad reviews to speak of but on the description of it on the humminbird website, it says something about an optional transducer? Does the standard unit come with traditional 2d sonar or is it just a side imaging unit and the optional transducer is for 2d? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/12/15 01:21 PM
I've been thinking about getting a 998c hd si unit. Anybody have any opinions on this unit? Haven't seen any bad reviews to speak of but on the description of it on the humminbird website, it says something about an optional transducer? Does the standard unit come with traditional 2d sonar or is it just a side imaging unit and the optional transducer is for 2d? Thanks in advance.
The 998c HD SI Combo is discontinued and replaced by the 999ci HD SI Combo.
It comes with a single transducer that does Side Imaging, Down Imaging, 2D sonar and temp.
The note in the specs refers to a transducer change to get 2D sonar at 4000 watts for very deep water.
Read the specs again.
I've been thinking about getting a 998c hd si unit. Anybody have any opinions on this unit? Haven't seen any bad reviews to speak of but on the description of it on the humminbird website, it says something about an optional transducer? Does the standard unit come with traditional 2d sonar or is it just a side imaging unit and the optional transducer is for 2d? Thanks in advance.
Give me a call. I would be happy to talk with you direct and answer any question/s you may have and get your order headed your way.
David @ shut-up-and-fish
972 822 9285
Posted By: lakewood
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/16/15 02:35 PM
help me understand what i'm seeing,please
Posted By: doctorxring
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/19/15 03:11 AM
To me, that image says, "Buy a chart with Down Imaging".
help me understand what i'm seeing,please
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/19/15 04:40 PM
I agree. Imaging will show you if the returns are fish or brush/trees.
Add FishID to show you fish you want to target.
This:
is what this is:
To me, that image says, "Buy a chart with Down Imaging".
help me understand what i'm seeing,please
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/19/15 10:59 PM
I saw it in here somewhere but now can't seem to locate it. I have a new 999SI installed and was looking for the recommended starting settings for dummies. I fish a mainly muddy bottom lake if that makes a difference. I want to find brush piles with Side scan and then go over them with Down scan and see the fish they are holding!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/15 12:03 AM
I saw it in here somewhere but now can't seem to locate it. I have a new 999SI installed and was looking for the recommended starting settings for dummies. I fish a mainly muddy bottom lake if that makes a difference. I want to find brush piles with Side scan and then go over them with Down scan and see the fish they are holding!
The unit comes with the recommended starting settings. Defaults.
As far as brush piles with Imaging, a brush pile is not a large subject, it is a bunch of small subjects that imaging will show individually. If the parts are not large enough to reflect enough sonar pulses, you won't see them displayed. You have to compare brush parts to small fish. The smaller the fish, the less likely Imaging will show them since they won't be represented by many screen pixels.
This is a brush/log/stump pile that Imaging can show clearly--it's big stuff:
This is a tree on top of one of those "brush piles"
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/20/15 12:54 AM
Those are some great images. Also thanks for the PM on some recommended settings. I'll try to get out to the lake soon and see if i can some good screen shots
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/15 09:31 PM
Fence..?
Posted By: buton
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/15 09:51 PM
those are some nice pictures...
Posted By: Muzzlebrake
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/15 10:43 PM
Jug line with big old cat attached ?
Turns out that I was less than 10 feet from a marina and the depth was deeper, so the unit paints part of the marina in the wrong place, because thats what it does. And that probably is a car. Next time I am in that area I will look for and rescan to see if I can get better view. If I do I will post those pics. The info I gave here came from input on the Yahoo Side Imaging web site.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/15 03:08 PM
How much draw will one of these 899ci or 999ci HB's have on the battery?
Maybe a better question is how big of a battery does one need to run one of these units all day or should it have it's own battery.
Currently both of my old b&w units X-4 and Cuda 350gps and trolling motor are on one deep cycle battery.
I can go all day on it but it takes a good 4hrs to recharge the battery afterwards. A typical day on the water working the bird roosts I will put on at least 2 miles with the 43lb motorguide all the while running one or both fish finders.
TIA
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/15 03:36 PM
How much draw will one of these 899ci or 999ci HB's have on the battery?
Maybe a better question is how big of a battery does one need to run one of these units all day or should it have it's own battery.
Currently both of my old b&w units X-4 and Cuda 350gps and trolling motor are on one deep cycle battery.
I can go all day on it but it takes a good 4hrs to recharge the battery afterwards. A typical day on the water working the bird roosts I will put on at least 2 miles with the 43lb motorguide all the while running one or both fish finders.
TIA
Both about 2A. You should not connect the more sofisticated sonar units to the trolling motor battery. A group 24 DEEP CYCLE battery is a good power source (that is what I use when fishing electric-only waters). You can get by with a smaller deep cycle battery like used on alarm systems--about a 20-25AH size.
Posted By: SlabHappy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/15 03:39 PM
Hummingbird shows .78 Amps (780 mA) power draw for both.
Posted By: Muzzlebrake
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/15 01:21 AM
Thanks. right now I have one connected to the trolling motor battery and the other is connected to a 450ah harley davidson battery. The harley battery runs the X-4 all day and hardly drains it.
I'm thinking a $90 Walmart battery would do just fine then.
Posted By: D Thomas
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 03:09 AM
I think this is the right place to ask..
Can you ethernet an older 798 ci SI internal GPS graph (bow), and a 798 hd SI with external gps (dash). Trying to share waypoints between the 2 graphs.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 01:30 PM
I think this is the right place to ask..
Can you ethernet an older 798 ci SI internal GPS graph (bow), and a 798 hd SI with external gps (dash). Trying to share waypoints between the 2 graphs.
No, only the 798ci HD SI Combo is Ethernet compatable.
AS INTERLINK is the only intercommunication connection that will work between those two units and it will share GPS data
The 798ci HD SI Combo has an internal GPS antenna just like the 798ci SI Combo. Either one can support an external GPS antenna.
Both are "c"
Color display and "i"
Internal GPS antenna.
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 07:50 PM
Here's another dumb question from a newbie! Can someone please give me a quick rundown on how to make sure my HB 999 is taking a screenshot when I hit the mark button and then how to retrieve those screenshots and view on my computer? Also is there a way to save and watch at home the video logs while the unit is running? You know so I can see if I missed anything?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 08:24 PM
Here's another dumb question from a newbie! Can someone please give me a quick rundown on how to make sure my HB 999 is taking a screenshot when I hit the mark button and then how to retrieve those screenshots and view on my computer? Also is there a way to save and watch at home the video logs while the unit is running? You know so I can see if I missed anything?
To take screen shots you need a SD card in the unit (NOT A MAP CARD).
Your map card should be locked.
Then you turn on Snaphot in the Accessory Menu.
To take a snapshot, push the MARK button. That saves a .png photo to the SD card in the Snaphot folder. It also creates a "S" prefix waypoint plus a location file that will display a thunbnail picture on the Chart view when you are at that waypoint.
Since the snaphot is a regular picture file, any photo viewer software that your computer has will read it just like from a digital camera.
You play back recordings on the unit, or with the card in your computer using software called HumViewer. That unit does not have a video-out port like the earlier 800 series units have to connect to a monitor/TV.
You can use up to a 32 GB card for Snaphots and Recordings.
I do a lot of both.
Save your recordings in case you want to use the data for contour mapping at some point.
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 08:45 PM
Ok thanks that explains it. I marked some locations but didn't have a memory card in the unit and thought I could transfer them later and I'll check out the HumViewer program. Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 09:34 PM
Ok thanks that explains it. I marked some locations but didn't have a memory card in the unit and thought I could transfer them later and I'll check out the HumViewer program. Thanks!
One more thing, if you have Snapshot turned on and do not have a memory card in the unit, it will not create a waypoint. You will see "Waypoint Saved" displayed, but no number. When a waypoint is created, the number of that waypoint is displayed when you push the MARK button.
Posted By: Code
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/11/15 09:50 PM
To take screen shots you need a SD card in the unit (NOT A MAP CARD).
Your map card should be locked.
Then you turn on Snaphot in the Accessory Menu.
To take a snapshot, push the MARK button. That saves a .png photo to the SD card in the Snaphot folder. It also creates a "S" prefix waypoint plus a location file that will display a thunbnail picture on the Chart view when you are at that waypoint.
Since we know the folder names that the unit saves to, I wonder if it would be possible to create those folders on a map chip (from a pc) and then use the map chip for snapshots without fear of corrupting it.
Just a thought for those of us running single-slot units. I may run some tests with a map chip.. make some folders, place files in and outside those folders and see what the unit does to everything.
DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. Just a thought I had after reading his post.
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/15 09:37 PM
Ok last dumb newbie question I promise! I have watched my CD and read the manual and for the life of me can't get all the data on the side of my screen to go to the background so I can have full side scan images on my screen! Surely there is a way to do this. any help? HB 999ci si
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/15 10:12 PM
Ok last dumb newbie question I promise! I have watched my CD and read the manual and for the life of me can't get all the data on the side of my screen to go to the background so I can have full side scan images on my screen! Surely there is a way to do this. any help? HB 999ci si
There is a setting in the full Sonar menu called SI Readouts.
Turn that OFF and when you have full screen SI, you will have depth and temp at the lower left of the view and not in a data box.
ONLY for the FULL SCREEN SI view.
Posted By: SlabHappy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/13/15 03:46 AM
Does anyone have tips for getting the HumViewer to run on a Mac? I downloaded the files and tried to run, had to download some update, but when i try to run It says the file is corrupt and needs to be moved to the trash. Anyone have any suggestions?
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/13/15 12:41 PM
Ok last dumb newbie question I promise! I have watched my CD and read the manual and for the life of me can't get all the data on the side of my screen to go to the background so I can have full side scan images on my screen! Surely there is a way to do this. any help? HB 999ci si
There is a setting in the full Sonar menu called SI Readouts.
Turn that OFF and when you have full screen SI, you will have depth and temp at the lower left of the view and not in a data box.
ONLY for the FULL SCREEN SI view.
Thanks Wayne you've been a big help to me! Worked great on the lake. Now all I gotta do is figure out what I'm looking at lol
Posted By: jwallen
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/13/15 06:04 PM
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/13/15 06:51 PM
You are not getting any "interference". The unit is recording sonar echos from your boat and from disturbed water coming off the hull as you move forward.
Typically the thin distinct lines on the left side are echos from a jackplate with the SI transducer attached to the right side of it.
The wider blurry line is from the disturbed/aerated water. Same as the one I posted.
Also in the third image, you are going too fast for the transducer position you have. The black lines are due to no water on the transducer. Sonar does not work through air.
I exported data from 999 just fine, then I seperated the recorded movie to a folder that I open with humviewer, and the rest I loaded from the card to humminbird pc. then i cleared the card. Now I would like to put the movie back on the 999 but I cannot get it to show up on the 999. I have 1 folder for the movie called R00008, with the following files B001.IDX & .SON followed by B002 and 003 with same .IDX and .Son files. And then there is one folder called R00008.Dat now I try to put these back on the card and it is a no go for the 999 to show it in the recording view.
Under the humminbird PC, under the .GPX there is one called file R00008 and when I export that entire GPX file back to to SD card it does not work for viewing the recording in the 999. Now I am using the simulator here in the house if that has anything to do with it. I get all the waypoints and tracks back on the unit just fine. Just cannot see the snapshot pics or the movie of the trip.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/14/15 06:18 PM
I exported data from 999 just fine, then I seperated the recorded movie to a folder that I open with humviewer, and the rest I loaded from the card to humminbird pc. then i cleared the card. Now I would like to put the movie back on the 999 but I cannot get it to show up on the 999. I have 1 folder for the movie called R00008, with the following files B001.IDX & .SON followed by B002 and 003 with same .IDX and .Son files. And then there is one folder called R00008.Dat now I try to put these back on the card and it is a no go for the 999 to show it in the recording view.
Under the humminbird PC, under the .GPX there is one called file R00008 and when I export that entire GPX file back to to SD card it does not work for viewing the recording in the 999. Now I am using the simulator here in the house if that has anything to do with it. I get all the waypoints and tracks back on the unit just fine. Just cannot see the snapshot pics or the movie of the trip.
Snapshots have to be in the
Snapshot folder and Recordings have to be in the
Record folder.
Just like Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks have to be in the
Matrix folder.
From sideimaging forum found out like you said, I had to recreate the folder RECORD all captial letters and then put the stuff into that and it loaded back on the unit no problem. Thanks for your help Wayne
Posted By: Code
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/15 05:41 PM
Finally got to take my new Helix 5 out on the water this weekend! This is my first advanced fish finder, moved up from an eagle 320...
Brought back some recordings to play through humviewer:
Are the floating masses in this picture bait balls? I was in windy/choppy water in about 30ft.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/18/15 05:26 PM
Finally got to take my new Helix 5 out on the water this weekend! This is my first advanced fish finder, moved up from an eagle 320...
Are the floating masses in this picture bait balls? I was in windy/choppy water in about 30ft.
Yes they are!
Bought a Helix Sonar/GPS. Think the Transducer is a
XNT 9-20-T model. What 10' extension cord will fit it.
7 point connector? It only has (3) male connections
in the end that connects to the Unit.
There is much wisdom on the TFF. Much thanks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/29/15 09:50 PM
Bought a Helix Sonar/GPS. Think the Transducer is a
XNT 9-20-T model. What 10' extension cord will fit it.
7 point connector? It only has (3) male connections
in the end that connects to the Unit.
There is much wisdom on the TFF. Much thanks.
Transducer extension cable
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Posted By: cove_crawler
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/20/15 09:30 PM
I've got a 797C2 SI. I've noticed that the SI picture will start fading out at about 40 feet deep. Less than 40 and it creates a clear picture. My voltage indicator on the unit is reading 13.3...any ideas on what the problem may be?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/15 12:44 AM
I've got a 797C2 SI. I've noticed that the SI picture will start fading out at about 40 feet deep. Less than 40 and it creates a clear picture. My voltage indicator on the unit is reading 13.3...any ideas on what the problem may be?
Use the SI Sensitivity setting to compensate for depth, and bottom hardness.
Posted By: Ranger354JF
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/23/15 03:27 PM
I have a lot of clutter on my 1198. I have changed the sensitivity settings to next to nothing but still have clutter.
I have taken snap shots and have them on my computer but don't know how to post them on here.
I used to have a Transom Shield transducer saver but bent it down at falcon. That things sticks too low in the water. I moved the ducer up like the boat dealership recommended and still get clutter.
09 Skeeter 225zx with yammy 225.
Any help would be great.
Posted By: JkWho
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/29/15 12:59 AM
New here, Im getting ready to buy a unit but I have a couple questions to get this adventure started...
1) Looking at the 999ci for my dash, for those of you with this unit or higher what are you using on your bow?
2) With these units getting better and better has anyone just gone to one unit on the dash (more money to spend on one unit instead of 2)?
3)Will the 698 and the Helix 5 talk to each other? Waypoint sharing?
I think Im looking at either the 999 instead in my dash or 698 for the dash and the Helix 5 on the bow...
Any thoughts or recommendations would be great...
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/15 01:59 PM
New here, Im getting ready to buy a unit but I have a couple questions to get this adventure started...
1) Looking at the 999ci for my dash, for those of you with this unit or higher what are you using on your bow?
2) With these units getting better and better has anyone just gone to one unit on the dash (more money to spend on one unit instead of 2)?
3)Will the 698 and the Helix 5 talk to each other? Waypoint sharing?
I think Im looking at either the 999 instead in my dash or 698 for the dash and the Helix 5 on the bow...
Any thoughts or recommendations would be great...
I use 10" SI models at the console and bow.
None of the nine Helix 5 models will link to each other or any other unit with any connection.
Can I link the I-Pilot to a 898? Would it hook up via ethernet?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/15 08:42 PM
Can I link the I-Pilot to a 898? Would it hook up via ethernet?
You can with the iPilot
Link installed in the motor head.
It is an Ethernet accessory.
My trolling motor has the I-Pilot link, but the info. showing compatable Hummingbirds did not list the 898, so I just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
Posted By: jscroggins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/04/15 12:55 AM
I have a brand new 2014 skeeter with a 798 in the console and I added a 999. I am having some issues and I wanted to see if I could get advice on what the issue(s) may be. I also have a 798 on the bow. The transducers for the 999 and 798 in the console are mounted flush with the bottom of the boat on each side of the livewell pumps and drain plug. My 999 is not near as clear as it should be and I have messed with the sensitivity and other settings a lot trying to clear it up and I am having no luck. When I use the trolling motor the 999 screen will start scrolling white where it should be reading the DI or SI. I am wondering if this could be a transducer issue or electrical. I was using the 798 in the console today and running the sonar. The sonar would keep freezing and I tried restarting the graph about 4 or 5 times and it continued to freeze. It would read for about 3 minutes and then freeze. I know this is a bit long, but any help on what I may need to do is appreciated. The photo is what I am seeing a lot of. It does clear up sometimes, but I know it should way more clear than this.
God Bless!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/15 11:25 AM
I have a brand new 2014 skeeter with a 798 in the console and I added a 999. I am having some issues and I wanted to see if I could get advice on what the issue(s) may be. I also have a 798 on the bow. The transducers for the 999 and 798 in the console are mounted flush with the bottom of the boat on each side of the livewell pumps and drain plug. My 999 is not near as clear as it should be and I have messed with the sensitivity and other settings a lot trying to clear it up and I am having no luck. When I use the trolling motor the 999 screen will start scrolling white where it should be reading the DI or SI. I am wondering if this could be a transducer issue or electrical. I was using the 798 in the console today and running the sonar. The sonar would keep freezing and I tried restarting the graph about 4 or 5 times and it continued to freeze. It would read for about 3 minutes and then freeze. I know this is a bit long, but any help on what I may need to do is appreciated. The photo is what I am seeing a lot of. It does clear up sometimes, but I know it should way more clear than this.
God Bless!
Did you connect the unit power cords directly to the battery and NOT to the boat wiring harness?
Is your battery fully charged and in good condition?
Are you operating both units at the same time?
Posted By: jscroggins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/15 07:02 PM
Not exactly sure if the unit is hooked up directly to the battery or wiring harness. I had it installed. I have ran all 3 units at the same time and I now understand that causes interference. The batteries were fully charged and are brand new. Could my transducers be located in a bad area. I have planned on moving my 999 transducer to the jackplate in order to see if that helps.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/15 11:51 PM
Not exactly sure if the unit is hooked up directly to the battery or wiring harness. I had it installed. I have ran all 3 units at the same time and I now understand that causes interference. The batteries were fully charged and are brand new. Could my transducers be located in a bad area. I have planned on moving my 999 transducer to the jackplate in order to see if that helps.
Moving it to the jackplate will not prevent cross-talk, what it will do is lower the speed limit you can use for Imaging-cavitation will occur at a lower speed as the height above the hull bottom increases.
Posted By: jscroggins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/07/15 01:23 AM
I see. Any advice on how to clear my images up to where they should be. I have messed with settings as well as had others change settings and it still is not as clear as it should be. This has been done with only running the 999 and all other graphs have been off. Would moving it to the jack plate help clear the images up or would this be a waste of time? Thanks for your help!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/07/15 01:36 AM
I see. Any advice on how to clear my images up to where they should be. I have messed with settings as well as had others change settings and it still is not as clear as it should be. This has been done with only running the 999 and all other graphs have been off. Would moving it to the jack plate help clear the images up or would this be a waste of time? Thanks for your help!!
It depends on where it is now. The SI pulses "see" from the water's surface to past vertical under the transducer on both sides.
If you use a jackplate mounting, you will have to add spacers to get the transducer low enough to "see" past the hull sponsons.
PM sent
Posted By: lakewood
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/15/15 01:37 AM
With the last update,the palette menu has changed. No more what I called the lowrance colors. If I use the purple and turn off structure ID off it gets close.
What is structure ID?
Good question I cannot find a definition in my 999 owners manual either on what Structure ID is.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/25/15 12:43 AM
Good question I cannot find a definition in my 999 owners manual either on what Structure ID is.
Look up
Bottom View in the manual under the main sonar menu.
There is a Structure ID setting and a White Line setting.
Posted By: ETXHorseApple
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/27/15 06:25 PM
I recently purchased a 998cSI 2nd hand and I cant get the waypoints to show up on the screen. When I push the Mark button is pops up and says Waypoint saved but no waypoint show up on the screen. Is it a setting That I dont have turned on? There is a 2013 Lakemaster chip that came with the graph when I bought it and His old waypoints show up but no new ones that I put do.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/28/15 01:02 AM
I recently purchased a 998cSI 2nd hand and I cant get the waypoints to show up on the screen. When I push the Mark button is pops up and says Waypoint saved but no waypoint show up on the screen. Is it a setting That I dont have turned on? There is a 2013 Lakemaster chip that came with the graph when I bought it and His old waypoints show up but no new ones that I put do.
You
must have a memory card (not map card) in the unit if you have Snapshot turned on. If you don't, the unit will not create a waypoint.
If you have Snaphot turned off, the unit will create a waypoint with no card inserted.
Bought a 999 in January. Been having issues with it changing colors on its own. Also noticed if it switch to 83 khz I have a white screen. No visible damage to transducer or cable. Tried to reset it but still the same. I was at BPS this weekend and tried to switch a display to 83 khz same thing. So is this correct? I have not updated software yet still has 7.020 on it.
When I recorded the Simulator I did not have 83kHz turned on so there is no data for 83 kHz in simulation.
I have white screen when when I'm in normal sonar.
Ok update seem to cure it
Posted By: michang5
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/14/15 05:23 PM
Hello. I am a kayak angler and have the Humminbird Helix 5 DI GPS unit. I've read the manual, googled, and searched this forum and others, but cannot seem to find out why my Helix blinks the depth reading past 28'.
I has happened on two different bodies of water on different days. The unit runs great between 1-27', but as I get deeper than 28', the depth number will start blinking and I see no sonar returns. I have the transducer directly in the water via a Ram transducer arm. I'm running adjusted Basic settings; I have not messed with Advanced preferences.
I tried adjusting the beam and frequency (mixed and matched the 4 selections). I changed the lower range from Auto to 50' and different depths in between. Even cranked up the sensitivity to 20. Sometimes it would sorta start reading again (see lots of streaks), but often not. My chart speed is usually set to 2.
I found this FAQ (
http://www.humminbird.com/Category/Support/FAQ/DepthReadings/). And saw the note in the manual that says if it blinks, it's having a problem reading the bottom. Not very helpful. I found this thread, which seems to indicate that a reset is the best/only solution (
http://www.bbcboards.net/humminbird-sonar-gps/604174-losing-depth-reading-after-25ft.html).
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/14/15 05:45 PM
Sounds like you may have power issues.
Posted By: michang5
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/14/15 07:09 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to check?
I'm running a 12V, 8ah battery that was given to me less than a year ago by a friend that installs cable/security systems.
I know this is a different measure of battery output, but for what it's worth, the fully charged battery will run the Helix for almost 12 hours before it shuts down. And I am getting the blinking depth display very early in my trips out.
EDIT: I corrected a phrase in my original message that might have caused confusion. Past 28' only the DEPTH NUMBER blinks. And I don't see any sonar or DI returns. Everything else on the display appears functional. Sorry for not being more clear.
Posted By: BKT
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/14/15 08:25 PM
Got my helix 5 SI/GPS in the mail from Shut-up-and-fish the other day and in just a few hours had it on the jon boat. I finally got a chance to take it to the creek yesterday for a test run and here are a couple of shots... Look okay?
It seems to start loosing bottom around 12mph or so, so it looks like I need to tweak on it some more.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/14/15 09:38 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to check?
I'm running a 12V, 8ah battery that was given to me less than a year ago by a friend that installs cable/security systems.
I know this is a different measure of battery output, but for what it's worth, the fully charged battery will run the Helix for almost 12 hours before it shuts down. And I am getting the blinking depth display very early in my trips out.
EDIT: I corrected a phrase in my original message that might have caused confusion. Past 28' only the DEPTH NUMBER blinks. And I don't see any sonar or DI returns. Everything else on the display appears functional. Sorry for not being more clear.
The diagnosis is the same---POWER.
Posted By: michang5
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/15 02:04 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but do you recommend checking against a newer battery? A battery with more amp hours? Or a battery with more voltage? Or some combination of the three?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/15 02:49 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but do you recommend checking against a newer battery? A battery with more amp hours? Or a battery with more voltage? Or some combination of the three?
At least a fully charged, healthy battery with good connections to the unit. What that small of an aH rating, nothing else connected to it.
Posted By: michang5
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/15 04:04 PM
Got it. Will do some testing with a friend's battery that he purchased a week ago. I will also check the angle of the transducer (saw one user that fixed his problem by rotating it slightly). And I will consider a factory settings reset as well.
Thanks again.
Posted By: michang5
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/20/15 10:28 PM
Update: I was finally able to get on the water and try to fix my Helix. I started by moving my Ram mount over 2" so the transducer arm was pointed straight down (versus angled under my kayak very slightly; I didn't know this was happening). Then I performed a reset to factory defaults. One or both tweaks fixed my problem, and I was able to read beyond 27'. Didn't have to swap out the battery. Woot!
Posted By: benp
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/15 09:57 PM
Thoughts on settings.
Please list opinions on setting for the 998 hdsi unit if you have one. I fish for whites/hybirds/striper mostly and sometimes crappie, I was going back and fourth between 200, 83 and 200/83 and sticking with 455 instead of 800 due to 800 washing out. also, what other settings do you mess with. Sensitivities or anything? I seem to only find bait balls and only sometimes find fish on downscan and sidescan, 2d seems to work better for actual fish and I would like to get better images on downscan and sidescan. I was in a boat with an HDS gen 1 by Lowrance the other day and they seem to be the opposite: great images on sidescan and downscan and not so good images on 2d thinking of switching to simrad or lowrance but would like to know if my unit could be better with different setting..
Thanks in advance
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/15 10:40 PM
Thoughts on settings.
Please list opinions on setting for the 998 hdsi unit if you have one. I fish for whites/hybirds/striper mostly and sometimes crappie, I was going back and fourth between 200, 83 and 200/83 and sticking with 455 instead of 800 due to 800 washing out. also, what other settings do you mess with. Sensitivities or anything? I seem to only find bait balls and only sometimes find fish on downscan and sidescan, 2d seems to work better for actual fish and I would like to get better images on downscan and sidescan. I was in a boat with an HDS gen 1 by Lowrance the other day and they seem to be the opposite: great images on sidescan and downscan and not so good images on 2d thinking of switching to simrad or lowrance but would like to know if my unit could be better with different setting..
Thanks in advance
This has the starting setup:
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbt...es#Post10778965
Posted By: benp
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/24/15 05:43 PM
have not done an update to my 998 hd si since I bought it in may of 2014. I know that there have been some software updates since then but did not want to risk messing it up. What have I missed out on?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/15 01:49 AM
have not done an update to my 998 hd si since I bought it in may of 2014. I know that there have been some software updates since then but did not want to risk messing it up. What have I missed out on?
It depends on what software version you have now.
Posted By: benp
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/15 01:05 PM
I will have to check, the unit was bought last may brand new., this latest update fixes bugs but I do not have any that I know of .
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/25/15 03:45 PM
I will have to check, the unit was bought last may brand new., this latest update fixes bugs but I do not have any that I know of .
When you bought it makes no difference, it's the day it was made.
That is the first six digits of the serial number.
Posted By: Richard Jorge
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/11/15 08:54 AM
My question is on updating. Do you need to update in order of release dates or can you just download the latest and be fine. The last update I have is 7.090 and now its up to 7.67 or something like that. Sorry if this has been asked before. Thanks in advance
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/11/15 02:57 PM
My question is on updating. Do you need to update in order of release dates or can you just download the latest and be fine. The last update I have is 7.090 and now its up to 7.67 or something like that. Sorry if this has been asked before. Thanks in advance
The current software version has everything the older versions have. You can't skip any updates.
Posted By: Richard Jorge
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/15 10:38 AM
Thank you Wayne
Posted By: benp
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/14/15 06:53 PM
Well I ddid not do any updates, I made setting adjustments on DI and SI and now I have great images when I find schools of fish. I used the setup that was recomended earlier on this thread. Thx for all the help guys! No as far as updates. If I like what I am seeing do I really need to do any updates?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/14/15 10:10 PM
Well I ddid not do any updates, I made setting adjustments on DI and SI and now I have great images when I find schools of fish. I used the setup that was recomended earlier on this thread. Thx for all the help guys! No as far as updates. If I like what I am seeing do I really need to do any updates?
You never HAVE to update the unit software unless a feature you want is added via software update.
Posted By: CubbyObrien
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 03:30 AM
Hey,
Got the 999ci HD Si unit and its all installed except the ducer. Is there any good videos on where and how to install the thing. Dont want to do it till i know its done right the first time. Going to intsall on transom or jack plate whichever is better in your opinion. Im a recent Lowrance user and love my new HB units, 859 in front and 999 at consol.
Posted By: Plano Tool
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 02:34 PM
Buttons not working.
I have a 798ciHD purchased in April 2011.
I had not updated the software for a couple of years (I was running 5.4 I think) , so I thought I would do so. I downloaded the current version (7.680) from MyHumminbird to a blank SD card, restored the factory defaults on my unit, and updated the software.
The update completed successfully. I used the unit the same day as I updated it and had no issues. However, I was playing with the unit to recreate the views and settings I had used previously and began to have issues with some buttons not functioning, particularly the power and exit buttons. I removed the unit from the docking station on my boat and reseated it to ensure that I had made good connections, but still had the same problems. The power button works to turn the unit on and exit button works to escape the default warning just after the unit reboots, but neither work after that. I believe I also lost two of the three presets (I don't recall if they reset to a different screen or stopped working altogether like the power/exit buttons)
Any thoughts?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 04:06 PM
Buttons not working.
I have a 798ciHD purchased in April 2011.
I had not updated the software for a couple of years (I was running 5.4 I think) , so I thought I would do so. I downloaded the current version (7.680) from MyHumminbird to a blank SD card, restored the factory defaults on my unit, and updated the software.
The update completed successfully. I used the unit the same day as I updated it and had no issues. However, I was playing with the unit to recreate the views and settings I had used previously and began to have issues with some buttons not functioning, particularly the power and exit buttons. I removed the unit from the docking station on my boat and reseated it to ensure that I had made good connections, but still had the same problems. The power button works to turn the unit on and exit button works to escape the default warning just after the unit reboots, but neither work after that. I believe I also lost two of the three presets (I don't recall if they reset to a different screen or stopped working altogether like the power/exit buttons)
Any thoughts?
Presets go back to factory Default when you do the Default setting.
Did you do another Restore Defaults after the software update?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 04:11 PM
Hey,
Got the 999ci HD Si unit and its all installed except the ducer. Is there any good videos on where and how to install the thing. Dont want to do it till i know its done right the first time. Going to intsall on transom or jack plate whichever is better in your opinion. Im a recent Lowrance user and love my new HB units, 859 in front and 999 at consol.
If the boat in your signature is yours, the proper installation for it is a shoot-thru XP 9 20 dual beam 2D transducer, and the SI transducer attached to the jackplate. Connect the two transducers to the display with the AS SIDB Y cable.
Look at the installation photos on the Bass Boat Central website for Skeeters. You have hull sponsons that have to be allowed for.
Posted By: Plano Tool
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 05:44 PM
Wayne,
No, I did not. I will do this on Friday and report the results.
Posted By: CubbyObrien
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 09:31 PM
awsome thnx
Is there a good way to mount to the jack plate?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 09:40 PM
awsome thnx
Is there a good way to mount to the jack plate?
Of course, that is why I referred you to the installation pictures so you can see what it takes for your hull design.
The product is Transducer Shield and Saver.
Posted By: Bob Landry
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 10:21 PM
You may want to mount it on a hole shot plate in the center of the jack plate. Wayne sent me a photo of an image where the transducer was mounted on the side of the JP and it picked up a little bit of a shadow on the opposite side. The hole shot plate for mine was only $45 and along with a good sonar image I get a three second hole shot. I mounted it with a Transducer Shield and Saver mount.
Posted By: CubbyObrien
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/15/15 11:38 PM
Bob,
do you have a pic of your install? and I cant seem to find the right pics on BCC? thanks for thr help guys
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/16/15 03:21 PM
You need more clearance that just attaching it to a hole shot plate as Bob suggested. The Skeeter hull sponsons block some of the SI pulses.
You could do that by adding a spacer and wedge to the transducer mount.
A hole shot plate is a good idea to prevent echos from inside the jackplate from being displayed when using the side attachment method.
A particular hull design has to be considered when mounting a Side Imaging transducer.
Posted By: Plano Tool
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/18/15 10:27 AM
Buttons not working.
I have a 798ciHD purchased in April 2011.
I had not updated the software for a couple of years (I was running 5.4 I think) , so I thought I would do so. I downloaded the current version (7.680) from MyHumminbird to a blank SD card, restored the factory defaults on my unit, and updated the software.
The update completed successfully. I used the unit the same day as I updated it and had no issues. However, I was playing with the unit to recreate the views and settings I had used previously and began to have issues with some buttons not functioning, particularly the power and exit buttons. I removed the unit from the docking station on my boat and reseated it to ensure that I had made good connections, but still had the same problems. The power button works to turn the unit on and exit button works to escape the default warning just after the unit reboots, but neither work after that. I believe I also lost two of the three presets (I don't recall if they reset to a different screen or stopped working altogether like the power/exit buttons)
Any thoughts?
Presets go back to factory Default when you do the Default setting.
Did you do another Restore Defaults after the software update?
Yes, I realize that I lost my presets. I had put them back in, but the buttons did nothing when pressed.
Restoring factory defaults a second time appears to have fixed the problem. You're a genius Wayne!
Posted By: Plano Tool
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/18/15 05:58 PM
Oops. Not so fast. It passed the initial check, but failed the full fishing test. I was navigating to a marked brushpile, when I lost all Nav. The Nav page was gone from the main menu and the power button would no longer turn the unit off. It looks like my unit will need to go home to 'bammy.
Any other thoughts before I ship it back? Do you know how long the warranty is?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/18/15 06:30 PM
Oops. Not so fast. It passed the initial check, but failed the full fishing test. I was navigating to a marked brushpile, when I lost all Nav. The Nav page was gone from the main menu and the power button would no longer turn the unit off. It looks like my unit will need to go home to 'bammy.
Any other thoughts before I ship it back? Do you know how long the warranty is?
Check the health of your battery. GPS/Mapping issues are a symptom of low voltage. Power button also.
When you loose the Chart and Nav menus, that is because the unit does not recognize the GPS antenna. POWER.
Posted By: Plano Tool
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/19/15 03:11 PM
Oops. Not so fast. It passed the initial check, but failed the full fishing test. I was navigating to a marked brushpile, when I lost all Nav. The Nav page was gone from the main menu and the power button would no longer turn the unit off. It looks like my unit will need to go home to 'bammy.
Any other thoughts before I ship it back? Do you know how long the warranty is?
Check the health of your battery. GPS/Mapping issues are a symptom of low voltage. Power button also.
When you loose the Chart and Nav menus, that is because the unit does not recognize the GPS antenna. POWER.
I'll check the power next w/e. I'm a bit skeptical that battery is the culprit though, as it is only a year old and I lost the GPS/mapping while the motor was running. The graph is connected directly to the starter battery. I looked at the self-test screen, but I can't recall the voltage reading. The only other thing I noticed was that it was pretty warm. It's close to 100 and in the sun, so I didn't think too much about it.
Thanks for all of your help. Humminbird support said "restore factory default again and if that doesn't work, send the unit in for repair".
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/01/15 09:16 PM
What is a fair price for a used 1197. And 798 ? I'm thinking of going to onix.
There are no 1197,s on eBay right now
Thanks
Mo
Posted By: Allan W
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/01/15 10:26 PM
There is a 1197 for $1200 in the classifieds
Posted By: HooknSlabs35
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/01/15 11:31 PM
I'm looking to have a HB Helix 5 DI/GPS installed on my Bass Tracker PT175TXW in the near future. I live in Burleson and I am looking for any suggestions/referrals on somewhere or someone to install it.
Thx
Posted By: sengfarmer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/03/15 02:54 PM
If I transom mount the Helix5 SI, when I run in reverse will the screen represent what the boat is over as opposed to what is behind it?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/03/15 03:28 PM
If I transom mount the Helix5 SI, when I run in reverse will the screen represent what the boat is over as opposed to what is behind it?
The transducer is not a camera and the display is not a monitor. The only real time data is the very first row of screen pixels. All after that on the display is recorded history. The direction you are traveling makes no difference, the recorded data will be where you
were.
It a subject is not continoulsy being recorded on that first row of pixels, it is not within the coverage of the sonar pulse.
Posted By: sengfarmer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/03/15 03:34 PM
Thank you Wayne, that answers my question perfectly. So where I was will be under the boat as I move backward.
Posted By: BigDad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/03/15 08:10 PM
How do I change the settings on my 859ci HD so that I don't see all if the data that's circled in red?
Posted By: BigDad
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/03/15 08:22 PM
I think I figured it out buy reading the manual
Posted By: sengfarmer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/15 04:18 PM
I've been through the owners manual and can't find how to get the DI screen on my Helix 5 SI. I want to use it for vertical jigging.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/15 06:32 PM
I've been through the owners manual and can't find how to get the DI screen on my Helix 5 SI. I want to use it for vertical jigging.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You will not see your vertical presentation in the DI view unless the conditions are perfect, you are very skilled with boat operation and lucky. DI is a blend of the two SI pulses.
That takes 2D.
Check the VIEWS menu and set all to VISIBLE. Then scroll through the list with the VIEW button or EXIT button to display them.
Posted By: sengfarmer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/15 07:50 PM
Thank you Wayne. So I can get the DI screen, I just won't be able to see my jig?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/15 08:09 PM
Thank you Wayne. So I can get the DI screen, I just won't be able to see my jig?
You will see your jig if you can keep it in the sonar pulse which is less than 6" wide front to back. That is the skill and lucky part.
ALL Humminbird SI units have a DI view.
Been that way since Jan 12, 2010.
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/15 03:27 PM
My 798 on the bow works fine until I pull up the TM and move. It freezes 100 % of the time.
power down won't work . I have to pull it and put it back on to get it going. It connected
to TM battery ( has worked this way fine for years) . So it is not a low voltage caused by
starting the big engine.
I took the connectors apart and re attached , no joy.
?? ideas ??
thanks
MO
Posted By: firedog79
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/15 06:18 PM
Can I download a file of waypoints received in an email in .hwr or .gpx format straight to a blank micro sd card and plug it straight into my Helix 5 to upload the waypoints? Or do I have to go through humminbird pc. I have a mac and can't use humminbird pc I don't believe. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/15 07:28 PM
Can I download a file of waypoints received in an email in .hwr or .gpx format straight to a blank micro sd card and plug it straight into my Helix 5 to upload the waypoints? Or do I have to go through humminbird pc. I have a mac and can't use humminbird pc I don't believe. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
If the data is in a Matrix folder, yes. If not, no.
Posted By: firedog79
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/24/15 07:31 PM
Thanks Wayne for the response. How do I know if it is a matrix folder?
Posted By: firedog79
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/25/15 12:31 PM
Disregard my last. Found out how to do it with some googling. I had to create a waypoint on the new sd card and export the waypoint to the card. Then popped it in the mac and the matrix file was there, then downloaded the .hwr file to my card and BAM! There it was. Thanks again for the help.
Posted By: TXSS
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/21/15 02:09 AM
Anyone a Humminbird rep I could hire for an hour or two on the water to really learn my equipment? 1198 rear and 998 front. They are networked. I am in N Texas. Thx.
HB 898. What do you do when you are out of way point memory?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/23/15 07:02 PM
HB 898. What do you do when you are out of way point memory?
You EXPORT your waypoint library to a memory card. Load that data to HumminbirdPC and manage them by location and/or delete the ones you don't really need.
Then Format Nav Directories to purge your unit's memory and only load back what you need.
Posted By: dwmoore
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/15 12:35 AM
A friend has given me some off his waypoint coords but can figure out how to type them in my 898.Thanks Darrell
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/15 12:43 AM
A friend has given me some off his waypoint coords but can figure out how to type them in my 898.Thanks Darrell
I'll send you a PM with the full details.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/15 12:53 AM
Look under the “Nav” menu tab.
Open the “Waypoints, Routes, Tracks” menu and select “Options”.
Next, select “New” which will have the “New Waypoint” as a submenu.
The “Create New Waypoint” window will open and you can input your waypoint data manually.
Posted By: dwmoore
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/15 01:06 AM
Thanks I just didn't keep punching enough buttons,Darrell
Posted By: HooknSlabs35
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/03/15 02:21 AM
Could someone tell me what I am seeing below about 10 ft. of water in this shot? (The fuzzy stuff, not the tree) Could this be thermocline or the lake starting to turn? Also, I know I probably dont have my unit "fine tuned", but I feel like the image should be a little more clear and show more detail of the tree on the down scan view. This is a farily large tree with a few large branches. My sensitivity setting in this shot on the DI and sonar are at a 12 I believe. Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/03/15 11:10 AM
Other than the added face, it could be either the thermocline or plankton. If it is present mid-day, it is the thermocline.
If it disappears, it is plankton.
Posted By: shadboy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/16/15 03:22 PM
Just when you think you know the answers.
Looking at Helix 7 si and now comes along the 899ci HD SI for 130 more. This is for kayak so I know I won't need ethernet. Are the XD maps and better color worth the price? I still think I will get the Helix but if I can get a better unit then it might be worth it. I see on HB website they use same transducer so I think images may be same but not sure.
Already have a navionics card so that won't figure into price but if 899 already has it then maybe sell my current unit for more.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/16/15 06:15 PM
Just when you think you know the answers.
Looking at Helix 7 si and now comes along the 899ci HD SI for 130 more. This is for kayak so I know I won't need ethernet. Are the XD maps and better color worth the price? I still think I will get the Helix but if I can get a better unit then it might be worth it. I see on HB website they use same transducer so I think images may be same but not sure.
Already have a navionics card so that won't figure into price but if 899 already has it then maybe sell my current unit for more.
The Helix 7 has Uni-map background which is basically just some color. It can only use the microSD card size.
The 899 has ContourXD background which is 3000 locations with contours nationwide of the 2006 Navionics Hotmaps Premium locations. That is many thousands of locations it doesn't have.
You can get the list of waters that XD has from the Humminbird website.
Yes both come with the same SI transducer Compact SI (XNT 9 SI 180 T).
The Helix 7 SI GPS just has the 455 kHz imaging frequency.
The 899 has 455 kHz AND 800 kHz imaging frequencies.
Both can use the XHS 9 HDSI 180 T Side Imaging transducer for sharper images.
The display size and pixel count is the same. The Helix units have a brighter display.
The 899 is being discontinued and replaced by the Helix series, that is why the cost difference is less now.
Stuff the 899 can do that the Helix 7 SI GPS cannot do is link to another unit, support an external GPS antenna, has two memory card readers instead of one, and support Ethernet accessories.
Posted By: shadboy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/15 12:43 PM
Wayne
Appreciate all your help. 1 more ?
Do you happen to have any screenshots of SI images with compact vs hd transducer. Trying to decide wether to upgrade to HD transducer. My fishing is kayak 10-25ft looking for structure/bp's for crappie.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/15 03:12 PM
Wayne
Appreciate all your help. 1 more ?
Do you happen to have any screenshots of SI images with compact vs hd transducer. Trying to decide wether to upgrade to HD transducer. My fishing is kayak 10-25ft looking for structure/bp's for crappie.
Yes I do of the same place. I did that comparison to show why the HDSI transducer is a better choice no matter which SI unit you have.
I'll PM you a link to the post on another site.
Posted By: BKT
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/04/15 01:02 PM
Wayne
Appreciate all your help. 1 more ?
Do you happen to have any screenshots of SI images with compact vs hd transducer. Trying to decide wether to upgrade to HD transducer. My fishing is kayak 10-25ft looking for structure/bp's for crappie.
Yes I do of the same place. I did that comparison to show why the HDSI transducer is a better choice no matter which SI unit you have.
I'll PM you a link to the post on another site.
Would please send me that link as well?
Posted By: Kylefield
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/15 11:10 PM
I have an 1199 with a 360 attached. when I go to the first full screen 360 view it shows part of the 360 picture as it is zoomed in. I cannot figure out how to view the full 360 view. When I go to the next 360 views the 360 shows up full size. Any help would be appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/05/15 11:39 PM
I have an 1199 with a 360 attached. when I go to the first full screen 360 view it shows part of the 360 picture as it is zoomed in. I cannot figure out how to view the full 360 view. When I go to the next 360 views the 360 shows up full size. Any help would be appreciated.
There are three views for 360, full screen, split with mapping and split with 2D sonar.
There are also several ways to view full screen 360 without "zooming"
You can choose the amount of the circle to display with the isolated setting.
Then there is the View selection to show more than 180 degrees by choosing Forward, Rearward, Left Side and Right Side.
Whatever view method you used, including zooming, that is what keeps returning. READ the 360 manual.
I use this one since it has the largest image without zooming--that is the Forward setting.
Posted By: Kylefield
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/08/15 02:17 AM
Thanks Wayne P. It looks like I had the view selected in the wrong view. All is right now.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/15 04:28 AM
Help I have a 587ciHD with internal gps but unit stopped working and the diagnostics say that the GPS is not connected. Any help would be appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/15 12:05 PM
Help I have a 587ciHD with internal gps but unit stopped working and the diagnostics say that the GPS is not connected. Any help would be appreciated.
Try a Restore Defaults and if that doesn't work, install the current software if you haven't.
If neither work, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
Posted By: Pool13
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/15 02:50 PM
Need Help.
I want to upgrade to gps/SI unit and I have a Terova ipilot also. I've seen some good deals on the 899 si or go with a new Helix model? Having the Ipilot make the Hummingbird the way to go? I have lowerance now (old) and I wish Hummingbird gps had option to use UTMs.
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/15 03:33 PM
Need Help.
I want to upgrade to gps/SI unit and I have a Terova ipilot also. I've seen some good deals on the 899 si or go with a new Helix model? Having the Ipilot make the Hummingbird the way to go? I have lowerance now (old) and I wish Hummingbird gps had option to use UTMs.
Thanks
Humminbirds are the only way to utilize the follow the contour feature from mapping with iPilot Link. It takes the Lakemaster mapping iPilot Link version to do that. Othewise the iPilot will do its own thing with no sonar/GPS unit involved.
The smallest Helix model that will connect to the iPilot Link is the Helix 9. The Helix 9 SI GPS would have SI/DI/2D/GPS mapping. The 899ci HD SI Combo has the same features.
The Helix will have a larger and brighter display plus have built-in live contour mapping (Auto Chart Live).
All the models with number names are discontinued. That is why the prices are low now (close-out sales)
The Helix models are replacing them for the 2016 model year.
That makes your choice between obsolete and current.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/19/15 12:55 PM
Help I have a 587ciHD with internal gps but unit stopped working and the diagnostics say that the GPS is not connected. Any help would be appreciated.
Try a Restore Defaults and if that doesn't work, install the current software if you haven't.
If neither work, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
I tried the restore defaults when I was at the lake didn't help.
How do I update software?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/19/15 02:52 PM
Help I have a 587ciHD with internal gps but unit stopped working and the diagnostics say that the GPS is not connected. Any help would be appreciated.
Try a Restore Defaults and if that doesn't work, install the current software if you haven't.
If neither work, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
I tried the restore defaults when I was at the lake didn't help.
How do I update software?
You own a Humminbird unit so you should have it registered on the Humminbid website as an account that Humminbird puts your unit's current software in it as well as a computer software to manage waypoint, routes, and tracks.
To update your unit, you download the software in your account to a blank formatted memory card. Any current available memory card size is OK, the file will be less than 3MB.
Then start the unit up FULLY in Simulator or Normal and do a Restore Defaults. Then put the memory card in the card reader. You will get a pop up note to install it--answer YES. Then another pop up note to abort--answer NO.
Wait for the update to happen and after the unit restarts, remove the card and do a Restore Defaults.
I always keep a copy of the update software in a folder on my computer in case I need it.
Posted By: J Lowe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/15 02:30 PM
im looking for a little info here regarding my 1199. I am having trouble with the 2d sonar anytime 83 or 83/200 kHz is being used. It looks to me that it is overly pixelated and runs slow/choppy. When I switch to 200khz only, everything is crisp and runs smooth as silk. Software is updated with the latest. I've read about hummingbird 83khz not being that great to start with, but I feel like mine should be working better than it is. Could it be my transducer?
Posted By: Rob W.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/15 04:04 PM
I just put a new transducer on my boat. Turned it on in my driveway. It gives a reading for temperature and speed, but nothing for depth. I was thinking even in driveway it used to flash a false depth reading. Will it read when I put it in water or is something not right? Can't get to the lake to try it for several days. It's a 597 CI HD DI MODEL.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/15 04:19 PM
The unit uses 455 kHz or 200 kHz for depth. It may or may not show anything when not submerged.
Speed comes from GPS, the temp sensor does not involve sonar pulses so it will work in any media.
Posted By: Rob W.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/23/15 04:33 PM
The unit uses 455 kHz or 200 kHz for depth. It may or may not show anything when not submerged.
Speed comes from GPS, the temp sensor does not involve sonar pulses so it will work in any media.
Sounds like it should work when put in water. Heck, I may be thinking of the unit I had about three years ago that would flash a false depth. Thanks for the info.
Posted By: J Lowe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/24/15 03:21 PM
im looking for a little info here regarding my 1199. I am having trouble with the 2d sonar anytime 83 or 83/200 kHz is being used. It looks to me that it is overly pixelated and runs slow/choppy. When I switch to 200khz only, everything is crisp and runs smooth as silk. Software is updated with the latest. I've read about hummingbird 83khz not being that great to start with, but I feel like mine should be working better than it is. Could it be my transducer?
Just read that any software update past 6.49 really affected the 83 2d. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/24/15 03:41 PM
im looking for a little info here regarding my 1199. I am having trouble with the 2d sonar anytime 83 or 83/200 kHz is being used. It looks to me that it is overly pixelated and runs slow/choppy. When I switch to 200khz only, everything is crisp and runs smooth as silk. Software is updated with the latest. I've read about hummingbird 83khz not being that great to start with, but I feel like mine should be working better than it is. Could it be my transducer?
Just read that any software update past 6.49 really affected the 83 2d. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes, starting with 6.570, the 2D sonar was messed up when using 83/200 kHz. That is because the ping sequence was changed to improve Imaging. The XX9 models never had any software versions that low. It got the 83 kHz glitch (double pixeling) from the start.
A software update was released in Feb this year that gives you the choice of better 2D sonar or better Imaging.
That setting is called Jigging Mode and is in the Sonar shortcut menu in the 2D view.
Jigging Mode ON sets the unit back to the older ping sequence (2D preference) and Jigging Mode OFF sets the unit to the Imaging preference mode.
If you don't use 83 kHz, it doesn't matter which except for Imaging.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/24/15 08:07 PM
I am looking to buy a new unit for the front of my Triton boat. The humminbird 698ci hd is on sale this week. What is the opinions on this unit and is there a trolling motor transducer available for it? Thanks for the help. Im not very tech savy.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/24/15 10:50 PM
I am looking to buy a new unit for the front of my Triton boat. The humminbird 698ci hd is on sale this week. What is the opinions on this unit and is there a trolling motor transducer available for it? Thanks for the help. Im not very tech savy.
The 698ci HD SI Combo is a Side Imaging unit. The screen shape is not very good for Side Imaging. It is narrow which is just the opposite of you want for Side Imaging. Screen width is the most important for Side Imaging since the size of displayed subjects is based on the SI RANGE setting.
IF you want that unit, and want to use it at the bow with a transducer on the trolling motor, contact Humminbird Customer Service to exchange the included transom Compact SI transducer for the trolling motor PUCK version XTM 9 SI 180 T. It has extra internal shielding for a TM application.
If you want sharper images, you can upgrade to the XTM 9 HDSI 180 T which is larger and has longer SI crystals which produces a thinner SI pulse and sharper images. It's about $80 difference for the upgrade.
It has the extra internal shielding also.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/25/15 02:03 PM
Thank you very much Wayne. I appreciate the help. I actually looked at this unit last night and agree that the screen is small. I am leaning in a different direction now. I like the looks of the helix 5 and think it will do what I need it to do.
Have a great Thanksgiving Sir.
Posted By: trlrman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/10/15 01:53 PM
need a little help . just got a 360 transom mount and need a longer cable to get up to the onix 20ft will not be long enough. I believe the 360 was made in 2013 if that makes any difference on connectors. I think there is a extension but it is 30ft long ? I am only needing about 10-13 more ft. any ideas ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/10/15 04:15 PM
There is only one length extension cable and that is 30'.
Substitute the 20' cable for a shorter one and then use the 30' extension or just purchase the 30' Ethernet cable if that will reach.
There is a 2', 10', 15', 20' and 30' Ethernet cable and the 30' extension.
Posted By: trlrman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/10/15 04:57 PM
ok thanks Wayne just wanted to make sure I was not missing another option
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/15 02:43 AM
Help I have a 587ciHD with internal gps but unit stopped working and the diagnostics say that the GPS is not connected. Any help would be appreciated.
Try a Restore Defaults and if that doesn't work, install the current software if you haven't.
If neither work, contact Humminbird Customer Service.
I tried the restore defaults when I was at the lake didn't help.
How do I update software?
You own a Humminbird unit so you should have it registered on the Humminbid website as an account that Humminbird puts your unit's current software in it as well as a computer software to manage waypoint, routes, and tracks.
To update your unit, you download the software in your account to a blank formatted memory card. Any current available memory card size is OK, the file will be less than 3MB.
Then start the unit up FULLY in Simulator or Normal and do a Restore Defaults. Then put the memory card in the card reader. You will get a pop up note to install it--answer YES. Then another pop up note to abort--answer NO.
Wait for the update to happen and after the unit restarts, remove the card and do a Restore Defaults.
I always keep a copy of the update software in a folder on my computer in case I need it.
I update from 6.0 to 7.3 with no luck on the GPS
I opened the unit to see if anything was visibly wrong but did not see any visible issues.
Do you think my battery reading 12.4volts would have an effect on it. I called Humminbird and they want $225 to fix it. The unit has been running for 171 hrs
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/15 07:58 PM
12.4V at the battery means it is not fully charged.
12.4V loaded voltage at the unit is great-have you checked the unit digital readout voltage?
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/15 10:10 PM
12.4V at the battery means it is not fully charged.
12.4V loaded voltage at the unit is great-have you checked the unit digital readout voltage?
12.4v is what the unit digital read out is measuring. When you go to the diagnostics screen
Posted By: BAIT956
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/15 10:54 PM
Question on the time it takes to acquire satellites. Maybe this has been covered previously.
I have a 798 CI SI combo connected to a Terrova IPilot link.
At times the sats will acquire in a few minutes, or it may take as long as 45 minutes or more. Any advice on how to speed up the acquisition, or is it just dependent on the daily conditions?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/15 11:26 PM
Question on the time it takes to acquire satellites. Maybe this has been covered previously.
I have a 798 CI SI combo connected to a Terrova IPilot link.
At times the sats will acquire in a few minutes, or it may take as long as 45 minutes or more. Any advice on how to speed up the acquisition, or is it just dependent on the daily conditions?
Having adequate voltage is the most important thing. Typically the GPS is the first thing affected by low voltage.
Posted By: BAIT956
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/22/15 12:21 AM
Thanks Wayne.
I have an isolated battery solely for the HB. I keep it charged after every use. Voltage always registers strong.
I could hook it to the TM batteries, (12v, hooked parallel) if you think this would be better. I'm baffled.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/22/15 12:37 AM
No, do not connect the unit to any trolling motor battery
The issue may be the fit of the power cord plug in the unit receptacle. It is sort of sloppy for easy removal of the display from the mount and you may not have a solid connection which causes resistance.
Try this:
Remove the display from the mount.
Locate the power cord plug.
Very gently and very little, adjust the two pins in any direction, use a pencil point. Before you do that, LOOK at the tiny holes in the display that have to line up with the pins.
Replace the display.
If that fixes it, you may never have to do that again. I did mine over five years ago and no issues since.
Posted By: BAIT956
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/22/15 01:10 AM
Thanks again Wayne. I'll give it a shot.
Posted By: BAIT956
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/25/15 12:42 PM
Before I went out yesterday, I did as Wayne advised. I couldn't tell that I had even moved the pins at all but apparently I did and it worked.
The unit acquired the signal from the birds within a few minutes.
Thanks again Wayne.
Posted By: Swilson
Helix 9 or 10 - 01/26/16 06:34 PM
I'm interested in buying either the Helix 9 or 10 SI. What is the primary difference between the two? And does that justify a $500 price difference.
helix 9 Si = $999
helix 10 Si = $1499
Thanks!
Scott
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/26/16 09:39 PM
I'm interested in buying either the Helix 9 or 10 SI. What is the primary difference between the two? And does that justify a $500 price difference.
helix 9 Si = $999
helix 10 Si = $1499
Thanks!
Scott
The Helix 10 has a larger display and has more pixels per square inch (higher image resolution).
The Helix 10 comes with the HDSI transducer and the Helix 9 comes with the less expensive Compact SI transducer.
With the Side Imaging technology, BIGGER is better.
Posted By: BrianTx01
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/26/16 11:04 PM
I got the 9 and I sending my transducer in for an $85 upgrade.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/27/16 12:06 AM
So i was looking at the new technology. I have a 1198 and a 998. I am thinking i want to get the 360 technology. What units should i look at. I prefer the biggest screen possible.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/27/16 03:06 AM
So i was looking at the new technology. I have a 1198 and a 998. I am thinking i want to get the 360 technology. What units should i look at. I prefer the biggest screen possible.
Both of your units will support the 360 and share it.
The only unit larger is the Helix 12.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/27/16 03:11 AM
Wayne
What do i need to buy to have the 360 on the trolling motor and dash. Thanks for your help
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 01/27/16 07:20 AM
Wayne
What do i need to buy to have the 360 on the trolling motor and dash. Thanks for your help
The 360 is an Ethernet accessory. To have three devices connected you need the AS ETH 5PXG Ethernet switch.
The switch is powered so plan its location. Then you need an Ethernet cable for each device to the switch. The 360 comes with a 20' Ethernet cable, just need two more in appropriate lengths.
The 360 also comes with the Heading Sensor GPS antenna---AS GPS HS
If you get a Helix 9, 10, or 12 you would need an Ethernet adapter AS EC QDE to connect the Ethernet cable.
With the Helix series, you can use any of the three versions for the 360.
The 2D, DI, or SI model.
If you do that and want to still use your current units, just connect it to the switch and have 360 on all three.
You need current unit software for the units you have now---7.670
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 02/02/16 01:44 AM
you may have to go the dual transducer route, that would be si transducer on each side of the outboard, then the y splitter cable that separates right from left si signals to the head unit
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 02/02/16 01:51 AM
you may have to go the dual transducer route, that would be si transducer on each side of the outboard, then the y splitter cable that separates right from left si signals to the head unit
I agree. The Y cable is the AS SILR Y .
What it does is disconnect the left side SI crystal in the right side SI transducer and connects only the left side SI crystal in the left side SI transducer.
A common installation for pontoons, inboard/outboard prop and jet drives, tunnel hulls, and multi-engine boats.
Posted By: popcork
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/16 01:21 PM
My 898c keeps turning off when the Ethernet link to my new 999c is attached, what is wrong here?
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/16 03:32 PM
i have the 899 ci, i believe it has the compact transducer. my problem is down imaging its just not very crisp it looks very pixelated , ive messed with all settings. i just cant distinguis fish, i know they are fish but looks like blobs of pixels, my side scan seems clearer and crisper. would the hdsi transducer fix that or what is wrong
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/16 06:38 PM
It would help, but the Humminbird di is what's called blended di, meaning that the left and right si beans cross each other below the transducer to create a computer generated image. The Humminbird transducer does not have a dedicated di element. Only the Onix has a di crystal along with the si ones as well. You would have to get a down imaging Humminbird unit to get better di detail unless you went with an onix, or add di transducer along with the si transducer
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/16 06:54 PM
so how would i hook up a di transducer and how would i make the unit only use that tranducer when using DI
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/02/16 07:16 PM
Ts3 transducer switch. It has two plugs that the tducer plugs into, then you switch back and forth. I have mine on my bow unit
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/16 04:28 PM
Wayne or 44 Diesel. Or anyone with the knowledge.
I am updating my boat. I want to add 360 and a new graph. I have a 1198 and 998 that i am happy with. I am wanting to have another large graph. I have been looking at Both The Onix and Helix i want a large screen so i would be willing to wait for the 12 to come out. Which would you buy and why.
second question
I want to add the 360. But i am looking at a new trolling motor which will be hand control or I15 or something simpler. Which 360 should i get and adapters. I already bought a aadpater for the trolling motor only to find out it wont work with a hand control.
So i want some real feed back so i will be well advised in the next large purchase.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/16 05:48 PM
I have the 1100 series and ONIX 10 and will have a Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS in a few days.
I first ran the 360 with a 1198c SI combo, then changed to an ONIX 10 SI NT since it has a higher resolution display. I will be changing to the Helix 12 since that has a higher resolution display than the ONIX and is larger.
In all cases BIGGER is better.
The rest of the information was exchanged via PM last week.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/16 06:28 PM
Thanks for the help.
So i am looking to buy a transom 360 with jack plate mount
Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS
new salt water x15 105 trolling motor or equivalent I want the white color not because i use it in salt water
Switches and cables.
Four new Batteries. haven't decided on the brand yet other than i know that the blue tops i have still work but are 7 years old
Time to start looking unless someone here has some very good prices.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/16 06:36 PM
Thanks for the help.
So i am looking to buy a transom 360 with jack plate mount
Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS
new salt water x15 105 trolling motor or equivalent I want the white color not because i use it in salt water
Switches and cables.
Four new Batteries. haven't decided on the brand yet other than i know that the blue tops i have still work but are 7 years old
Time to start looking unless someone here has some very good prices.
You will have an excellent setup when it is all done.
Posted By: Joe H52
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/16 01:27 PM
What is the best way to bow mount a 360 if my trolling motor is a Terrova. It apparently isn't compatible.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/07/16 02:29 PM
What is the best way to bow mount a 360 if my trolling motor is a Terrova. It apparently isn't compatible.
The only way is to invent some sort of mount to attach the 360 to. There are several home made devices that Terrova owners have come up with to do that. The guys on crappie.com and walleye central.com have been very creative with doing that and are selling their versions.
This is one of them:
http://www.podunkideas.com/da-ducer-apparatusreg.html
Posted By: rdmac
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/14/16 03:32 AM
Looking at buying the Humminbird Helix 7 KVD. Anyone have one of these units? I'd like to know what you like and dislike about it. Thanks!
Posted By: mreed
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/21/16 09:45 AM
I recently bought a Helix 5 DI GPS, I have a couple questions regarding the built in GPS. My lake is not showing up on the gps is there a setting that I need to change to be able to see it? Or does the built in GPS not include any lakes on it? I remember seeing in the manual that I need to register my unit and download the updates to an SD card, will it update my units GPS to show the basic lake contours? Or am I going to have to buy navionics for my unit to be able to see the lake contours? My lake is Lake Bridgeport. Thank you in advance
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/21/16 12:29 PM
I recently bought a Helix 5 DI GPS, I have a couple questions regarding the built in GPS. My lake is not showing up on the gps is there a setting that I need to change to be able to see it? Or does the built in GPS not include any lakes on it? I remember seeing in the manual that I need to register my unit and download the updates to an SD card, will it update my units GPS to show the basic lake contours? Or am I going to have to buy navionics for my unit to be able to see the lake contours? My lake is Lake Bridgeport. Thank you in advance
That model has no contour mapping, just a basic color background with some outlines of bodies of water. No, you cannot update the background map.
The unit will read Navionics and Lakemaster map products.
Check which one has the waters you fish.
You can view the current Navionics maps on their website's Web App.
You can download the lake list for Lakemater on the Humminbird Lakemaster website.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/22/16 02:12 PM
I purchased a 1999 Triton in the fall. It has an old Lowrance x51 on the front. I have purchased a Helix 5 to go up there. Would it be feasible to splice in to the power cords so that I dont have to run new wires to my battery? Just trying to make it a little easier. Thanks
Posted By: Corey Stanley
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/22/16 02:26 PM
1961Yaloo,
Are you removing the x51? If so have you found where it is powered from? Should be provided power at the bow of the boat, if removing the x51, disconnect, then test the voltage at that point to make sure you are getting 12v.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/22/16 02:41 PM
Corey
Yes I am taking the x51 out. Its no punkin. The power is run to the starting battery.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/22/16 09:42 PM
If the power is already ran to the starting battery with 3 amp inline fuse then you are good to splice. If you start to have issues with the unit powering off when starting the motor then you may need to run a new and bigger wire
Posted By: Darryl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/23/16 12:47 PM
Didnt get a chance to get out and try it. Should work fine.
I have been using this option for a year now. It works great. I have left the units on 8-10 hours at a time (HB 999 and HB 859, both with external GPS pucks). Good thing is my cranking battery is not taxed and it starts right up.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/23/16 02:26 PM
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the help.
Posted By: HooknSlabs35
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/01/16 12:04 AM
I recently bought a Helix 5 DI GPS, I have a couple questions regarding the built in GPS. My lake is not showing up on the gps is there a setting that I need to change to be able to see it? Or does the built in GPS not include any lakes on it? I remember seeing in the manual that I need to register my unit and download the updates to an SD card, will it update my units GPS to show the basic lake contours? Or am I going to have to buy navionics for my unit to be able to see the lake contours? My lake is Lake Bridgeport. Thank you in advance
I have the same unit. I have the navionics gold chip in mine and it works great. I don't know much about LakeMaster.
Posted By: Karl Dietz
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/16 02:21 AM
New update available for Onix units!
Posted By: Chris H2Os
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/16 05:41 PM
I installed a remote for my 1159 which is on the trolling motor. I have 360 on the trolling motor and trying to figure out how to program the remote to start and stop 360 pinging? I watched one of Doug V's YouTube videos and there is an option for it but it is with the Onix unit. I don't see the option in the menu on the 1159. What am I missing?
Thanks.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/16 06:01 PM
Go to the main menu, to The far right next to the network tab is the accessory tab,open it up and go to the remote and select it, then you should see the 360, and the 360 settings will be there
Posted By: Chris H2Os
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/16 10:04 PM
Go to the main menu, to The far right next to the network tab is the accessory tab,open it up and go to the remote and select it, then you should see the 360, and the 360 settings will be there
I went to the 360 settings like you mentioned and there is not an option to program one of the remote buttons to turn the 360 pinging on/off. I will take a picture with my phone next time I can and post the picture.
Thanks for your help.
CW
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/16 10:55 PM
Go to the main menu, to The far right next to the network tab is the accessory tab,open it up and go to the remote and select it, then you should see the 360, and the 360 settings will be there
I went to the 360 settings like you mentioned and there is not an option to program one of the remote buttons to turn the 360 pinging on/off. I will take a picture with my phone next time I can and post the picture.
Thanks for your help.
CW
Which one of the two 1159 versions do you have?
Posted By: Chris H2Os
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/16 12:59 AM
Go to the main menu, to The far right next to the network tab is the accessory tab,open it up and go to the remote and select it, then you should see the 360, and the 360 settings will be there
I went to the 360 settings like you mentioned and there is not an option to program one of the remote buttons to turn the 360 pinging on/off. I will take a picture with my phone next time I can and post the picture.
Thanks for your help.
CW
Which one of the two 1159 versions do you have?
I have the 1159 HD DI. I figured it out. I selected the retract/deploy option and that turns the pinging off and on.
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/07/16 11:52 PM
I currently have a 788 ci with an 898 c si hooked together with an interlink. These are older units. Software is up to date. I purchased at the classic an 1199 c hd. The plan is to move the 898 up front with the 1199 at the console. The 898 does not have an Ethernet plug.
Can I still hook the 1199 and 898 together with the interlink, or is the new 1199 compatible. It has the Ethernet connection. Have not dug in to it yet, weekend project to get ready for fork next week.
Or, should I sell the units I have now, with the interlink, and buy a new front unit to hook together. What would be a fair price for the older birds. The front 788 unit has 328 hours, the 898 has 324 both were registered when purchased.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/16 12:03 AM
1199 is Networked through Ethernet as is your 898, should be a bnc type connector that you screw the Ethernet cable to on back of 898. The 1199 uses a Ethernet adapter. Should be able to network your 898 and 1199 with Ethernet cable.
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/16 12:22 AM
I see it. That did took like I thought it would. Do you buy the cable from humminbird? And. Would I just run the single gps antenna for the 1199? I have been reading this thread and have learned more in about an hour than I have in the last few years having the units. Thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/16 12:45 AM
http://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-EC-30E/ Ethernet cable they come in different sizes, 2,5,10,15 20,30 foot lengths. They can be purchased from a lot places. Dave Goodson and shut up and fish can get them for you as well. You can connect the gps receiver from the 898 or 1199. 1199 has internal receiver that can be used or you can network the gps
http://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-EC-QDE/ ethernet adapter cable for 1199
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/16 12:51 AM
T hanks.looks much easier than the interlink
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/08/16 01:10 AM
yep, not much to it
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/09/16 03:13 AM
So. In reading the threads, will the Ethernet share waypoints between the two units? The 1199 and the 898. Or should I keep the interlink.? I like being able to mark something on the console and find it up front. I also found that the 898 is 360 enabled, things might get or expensive. TIA.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/09/16 03:23 AM
Yes, the unit in which you save the waypoint will be blue, the shared unit will be green. That way you will know if the waypoint was saved from which unit. The Ethernet does everything the interlink did, so you can do away with it if you wish. You can share all technologies except for maps. Each unit will need a map card, unless you want to keep switching from unit to unit
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/09/16 03:41 AM
Nice.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/09/16 03:46 AM
If you add the 360 that would require a 5 port Ethernet switch to network all 3 together, and yes the cost can add up quick
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/16 06:28 AM
So what would be the choice in chip card for the 1199
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/16 04:38 PM
Depends on your lake. I have both. Lakemaster has more features. For the lakes I fish Navionics seems to have better and more detail such as submerged trees,bridges,culvert,creek channels and submerged roads where Lakemaster doesn't have all that detail on the lakes I fish. Lakemaster has the lake level depth adjustment better color shading. Navionics does has have phone app that you load for about $10, then you can see the detail of the lakes. That way you don't spend full price of a map card without knowing what to expect
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/16 06:50 PM
Yes, the unit in which you save the waypoint will be blue, the shared unit will be green. That way you will know if the waypoint was saved from which unit. The Ethernet does everything the interlink did, so you can do away with it if you wish. You can share all technologies except for maps. Each unit will need a map card, unless you want to keep switching from unit to unit
If the AS INTERLINK is connected to two units and Ethernet is added, that supercedes the INTERLINK function and it will not work at all.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/16 06:53 PM
Depends on your lake. I have both. Lakemaster has more features. For the lakes I fish Navionics seems to have better and more detail such as submerged trees,bridges,culvert,creek channels and submerged roads where Lakemaster doesn't have all that detail on the lakes I fish. Lakemaster has the lake level depth adjustment better color shading. Navionics does has have phone app that you load for about $10, then you can see the detail of the lakes. That way you don't spend full price of a map card without knowing what to expect
You can view the current Navionics maps on their website's Web App, don't have to purchase anything. The Navionics maps (Nautical Charts) and user generated mapping
(Sonar Charts) are on the Web App.
Posted By: FACSR
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/15/16 03:03 PM
I have a question for you HB gurus (Wayne). I purchased a 999 Si Di right before they went extinct and every thing works right except it has 2 problems. First one is when I set up a navigation to a W.P. an go to S.I. the boat icon at the top of the screen will not point to the direction I need to go, and secondly when i'm in shallow water the depth readings go crazy, shows im in 1500' of water. any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated .
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/16 01:48 PM
If you are asking about the boat icon on the si screen, it never changes always pointing forward. How shallow of water are talking about? If you get real shallow they will get some crazy depth readings.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/16 06:11 PM
I have a question for you HB gurus (Wayne). I purchased a 999 Si Di right before they went extinct and every thing works right except it has 2 problems. First one is when I set up a navigation to a W.P. an go to S.I. the boat icon at the top of the screen will not point to the direction I need to go, and secondly when i'm in shallow water the depth readings go crazy, shows im in 1500' of water. any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated .
When you have
SI Navigation tuned on, the boat icon changes from Blue to Orange AFTER you select what waypoint to GO TO. It will then point to the direction to navigate to the waypoint.
Use Switchfire Clear when in shallow water and reduce the Sensitivity setting if needed.
Posted By: FACSR
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/16/16 07:40 PM
I have a question for you HB gurus (Wayne). I purchased a 999 Si Di right before they went extinct and every thing works right except it has 2 problems. First one is when I set up a navigation to a W.P. an go to S.I. the boat icon at the top of the screen will not point to the direction I need to go, and secondly when i'm in shallow water the depth readings go crazy, shows im in 1500' of water. any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated .
When you have
SI Navigation tuned on, the boat icon changes from Blue to Orange AFTER you select what waypoint to GO TO. It will then point to the direction to navigate to the waypoint.
Use Switchfire Clear when in shallow water and reduce the Sensitivity setting if needed.
ok thanks I already figured the boat icon in S Scan mode, and I will try that setting in shallow water although I never did that with my 899 but it uses a different transducer. thanks again Wayne
Posted By: SlabHappy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/21/16 12:24 AM
Just curious, is there anything special you have to do to an SD card to get it to record on a 1199? I have a 64 gig card that will not let me record, then my 32 gig, I recorded on it, loded it into Autocrats, then cleared my card, now my unit won't record on it. Seams like i remember doing that encrypt thing with one, one time, but couldn't figure out how to do it the other day on the water.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/21/16 05:09 PM
Just curious, is there anything special you have to do to an SD card to get it to record on a 1199? I have a 64 gig card that will not let me record, then my 32 gig, I recorded on it, loded it into Autocrats, then cleared my card, now my unit won't record on it. Seams like i remember doing that encrypt thing with one, one time, but couldn't figure out how to do it the other day on the water.
The max card size you can use is 32 GB.
FORMAT your card before using it each time.
Encrypt is only for purchasing a single location Lakemaster map.
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/23/16 06:35 PM
Got a question for you gurus. Just bought a new boat and have a helix10si/gps in dash and a 7di/gps on bow. The 7 works great the 10 does not read the right depth, it seems to keep going back to 1.7ft
It does have a y connector and a glued in puck for high speed readings and the HD trans mounted on transom. I have turned unit off then back on and it will read say 32.4' then switch view it will go back to 1.7 all this at say 2-3 mph. Is this a setting in missing?
Thanks for the help David
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/23/16 07:10 PM
First restore defaults nd see if that has any effect. Most likely gonna be transducer issue. It is either coming loose or going bad. Plug the transducer straight into the unit and then you can eliminate the splitter cable if it keeps giving you problems. Add some water in the bilge area to where the transducer is covered in water and test it that will let you know if the epoxy is coming undone if you start to get correct readings. Problem still exists could be the transducer is gone bad
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/23/16 11:18 PM
thank you sir, will give it all a try when gale force winds quit blowing here
on the lake
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/24/16 12:49 AM
I also forgot to mention that you can also plug your si transducer into the back of the unit and if your 2d works then that will tell ya that your shoot thru hull ducer would be the answer
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/25/16 10:36 PM
ok I unplugged everything and plugged just the hd si trans and everything seems to work fine, so my question now is the dealer has the shoot thru transducer and the si transducer going into a y cable. Is this the correct setup so when I'm at speed
I will read the depth or does it need another set up? can the shoot thru hook up
seperately along with the si or do I need the y cable also? thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/16 12:56 AM
ok I unplugged everything and plugged just the hd si trans and everything seems to work fine, so my question now is the dealer has the shoot thru transducer and the si transducer going into a y cable. Is this the correct setup so when I'm at speed
I will read the depth or does it need another set up? can the shoot thru hook up
seperately along with the si or do I need the y cable also? thanks
There is only one transducer port. To have a SI transducer and a shoot-thru transducer connected at the same time the AS SIDB Y cable is the only way to do it.
The Y cable disconnects the 83/200 kHz crystal in the SI transducer and connects the shoot-thru 83/200 kHz in its place. No menu changes are required, it is electrical connections.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/16 01:56 AM
Ok. Now try to determine if the transducer is bad or the y cable or even a bad shoot thru epoxy job. Run the shoot thru ducer straight to the head unit if you haven't done it yet. If it works correct then the y cable is bad if still an issue test the shoot thru with the water test. As Wayne stated your setup is basically the best option. The only other ways to install would be 2d transducer on the transom or try to locate your si ducer where you can use it for 2d di/si all in one. The splitter cable and the shoot thru is the most common install
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/26/16 02:33 AM
Thank you gentlemen so much for the info, I will complete testing tomorrow and let you know, just kinda frustrating with a new boat to have to go through this BUT that's the way it is sometimes. Again thanks for your help and your knowledge and willing to take the time to help all of us. David
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/16 01:34 AM
ok guys I think I narrowed it down to a bad shoot thru transducer,
I plugged it straight to head and just got the 1.6/1.7 reading.
I did not do the fill hull with water to "prove" it but my thinking is that's its
bad and I will have to replace even if the water helped.? am I correct in thinking this way? and for future reference, what is the best way to "temp" hook up my shoot thru to make sure its going to work? before the epoxy. thanks david
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/16 02:31 AM
The water test will fill in the air gaps of the epoxy if it's the epoxy that's failing and that is what could be one of the issues. So now it's either the epoxy or transducer. I would go ahead and remove the transducer and take it to the Lake. You can put something heavy on top of the ducer a sand bag would be ideal. Put enough water to where the transducer is completely submerged and test. If you get reading then the epoxy job has gone bad or was never good. If the same issue exists then it's the transducer. You can also use the sand bag and water to test new transducer and to find the best location for permanent install.
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/16 04:06 AM
ok will do, thanks again
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/16 05:10 PM
Can I transfer waypoints from onix 8 to 798 with just an SD card?
Do I have to covert from one format to another ? Or just load card and insert into the 798?
Thanks
Mo
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/27/16 06:06 PM
Can I transfer waypoints from onix 8 to 798 with just an SD card?
Do I have to covert from one format to another ? Or just load card and insert into the 798?
Thanks
Mo
No, the data as to be in the Matrix folder that the 798 or HumminbirdPC creates.
Load the data to PC and then to the memory card using the card symbol to get the data in the Matrix folder so the 798 will load it.
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/16 03:29 PM
Thanks , Wayne
you are a great asset to the fishing community.
MO
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/16 01:05 AM
Wayne or 44diesel, what is the correct shoot through hull transducer for my
Helix 10? thanks David
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/16 02:15 AM
XP 9 20 t has 2d and temperature
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/16 12:13 PM
Wayne or 44diesel, what is the correct shoot through hull transducer for my
Helix 10? thanks David
If you are going to use it with the Y cable, the XP 9 20.
The Y cable does not have a circuit for a temp sensor. Temp comes from the SI transducer.
You would be spending more for a sensor you can't use with the XP 9 20 T.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/16 02:08 PM
Yep my bad, wasn't thinking about y cable
Posted By: eightball
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/16 01:06 AM
broke part of my 'ducer mount. where can i get the part in the red box ?
isn't that part supposed to hinge up out of the steel portion if impact occurs ?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/16 01:24 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Humminbird-7400111-Transom-Mounting-Hardware/dp/B0000AXOFAcan try calling hummingbird and they might be able to send one or you may have to buy the entire hardware kit. try dave goodson at shut up and fish might have them as well. Prices vary a good bit also
This can really be big help also
http://www.transducershieldandsaver.com/product/sbb-4-spring-back-bracket/
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/16 01:47 AM
broke part of my 'ducer mount. where can i get the part in the red box ?
isn't that part supposed to hinge up out of the steel portion if impact occurs ?
Yes that part is what is held in the stainless steel clamp. The clamp is the tension device for the breakaway function.
PM me your mailing address and I'll send you that part.
Posted By: Paul Marshall
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/12/16 09:30 PM
I installed a helix 7 in Oct. Due to some health issues I was not able to put the boat in the water until a week ago. I did power the unit up in the shop. I mounted the transducer on the jack plate via a transducer shield and saver bracket per instruction. when I finally got on the water the DI screen was totally black and the side imaging would only come from the right side and it was a very poor image. Anyone with any Ideas or suggestions before I call the hummingbird techs.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/13/16 02:11 PM
broke part of my 'ducer mount. where can i get the part in the red box ?
isn't that part supposed to hinge up out of the steel portion if impact occurs ?
Estimated delivery date is Friday. USPS First Class
Posted By: Dothead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 11:45 AM
I've got a Helix 5 DI/ GPS that I just bought new. Installed the unit on my pontoon boat yesterday and it won't power up. I've tested all connections and even hooked up a different hummingbird cable to a different battery and still nothing. Any ideas why the unit won't turn on?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 02:38 PM
Do you have the connector plugged in the correct way in the back of the unit. It can be easy for some to get backwards. Take the power connector out of the collector and plug in straight to the unit and see if that helps
Posted By: Dothead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 02:49 PM
It has a notch on the + side of the cable and only goes in 1 way. I tested it there at the plug with a digital voltage meter to make sure all was well. Straight from battery and off of fuse block I have 13.25 volts. I've tried it with and without the transducer plugged in and 2 different power cables.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 03:05 PM
Time to call customer service. Maybe a bad head unit.
Posted By: Dothead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 03:22 PM
Does it need a memory card installed to power up possibly?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 03:48 PM
Does it need a memory card installed to power up possibly?
No
Posted By: Dothead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/15/16 05:11 PM
Thanks for the help guys!
Posted By: eightball
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/16 01:49 AM
Back in business.
Thanks Wayne P. !!!
Posted By: Josh Morgan
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/20/16 04:18 AM
Took my new Helix 10 SI out for the first time today and ran into a school of sandbass/hybrids as soon as I pulled out to open water.
Posted By: TCK73
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/20/16 12:03 PM
Nice pic. How many did you catch?
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/16 01:56 AM
I need an extension for my transducer cable. The unit is a Helix 10 Side Imaging. Did a chat today with Humminbird rep named Gwen. She told me the proper part is the EC W10. Just to be certain I asked a second time..."this is for side imaging, right." She never replied.
So, I go on Amazon to order. First on I came to said, "Not for Side Imaging." None of them list the Helix 10.
So does anyone know the EC W10 is the correct extension cable for a Helix 10SI?
This is only a 22 foot boat. At this price, they could provide a decent length of cable.
Posted By: Josh Morgan
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/16 03:48 AM
Pulled in 8 sandbass and 2 hybirds. Went out again today and pulled in about the same. First time ever really fishing for sandbass/hybrids and they move quick! Here is a snapshot from the school I landed on today.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/16 04:25 AM
I need an extension for my transducer cable. The unit is a Helix 10 Side Imaging. Did a chat today with Humminbird rep named Gwen. She told me the proper part is the EC W10. Just to be certain I asked a second time..."this is for side imaging, right." She never replied.
So, I go on Amazon to order. First on I came to said, "Not for Side Imaging." None of them list the Helix 10.
So does anyone know the EC W10 is the correct extension cable for a Helix 10SI?
This is only a 22 foot boat. At this price, they could provide a decent length of cable.
Yes the ec w 10 will work. 10 feet long. Humminbird is slow to update website.
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/21/16 01:42 PM
Thanks diesel. Appreciate it.
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 01:10 PM
Bought a 597 CI HD DI unit the other day from a guy here on the forum. I am having some issues with it. It is mounted on my TM and I use it up front. The unit works well for a few minutes, then will either power off, fade to black, or fade to vertical striped lines with no DI sensory. Please advise what I am doing wrong or what the problem could be? Very frustrating to want the unit to work and it does, then look down a minute or two later and it is off or seeing vertical lines. Please advise...
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 02:53 PM
How is it powered? Need to be powered straight to battery with a 3 amp fuse. How good is the battery?
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 04:25 PM
Has fuse, but I spliced it into existing wiring that was already in place where the previous depth-finder was installed. Shouldn't be an issue should it? Batteries were all new last year and I charge them first thing every time back.
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 04:25 PM
Could some of the other switches be causing inteference?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 04:33 PM
With the unit turning off itself and the lines on the scream indicate to me that it's either a power issue or a bad head unit. One way to test would be to remove the power wire and connect it straight to a battery and see if that improves it.Wiring through a factory wiring harness or fuse panel that is not dedicated to graphs only can be sketchy at best. Should also use at least 16 gauge wire or bigger would be best Can also try to restore defaults but that maybe a long shot. Also wanna. Check to make sure the connector is making good contact to the head unit. Would have to remove the cable from the quick disconnect and plug straight into the head unit.
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 04:56 PM
The thing that makes me think it is not a bad head unit is because the unit periodically does work like it is supposed to. I am wondering if inteference could be caused by the way I have it wired, or from the other depthfinder, or from the TM. I tend to rule out TM because it did work fine with the TM going for a period of time. It almost has to be a wiring issue. Guess there is nothing left to do to test that han to run the 16 guage wire from bow to stern correct? Two wires...one for power and one for ground?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 05:03 PM
Correct. If was trolling motor you would get lines on the 2d and a white cloud looking image on the di when the motor was turned on and when the trolling motor is set to high speed it would usually disappear. So it is most likely wiring issue, the depth finders these days need good clean power direct from the battery.
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/26/16 05:29 PM
Thank you. New wiring it is then.
Posted By: DAN-O
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/30/16 10:56 PM
Ran a wire directly to battery for power and works like a Champ now! Thanks.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/16 12:26 AM
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 05/02/16 03:38 AM
I just bought a Helix 9 si unit and it came with compact si transducer. I was wanting to know if it's worth spending the money for the high def transducer?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 05/02/16 03:17 PM
I just bought a Helix 9 si unit and it came with compact si transducer. I was wanting to know if it's worth spending the money for the high def transducer?
YES, if you want sharper images.
If you have not opened the mount package or used the transducer, you can get the HDSI via the Humminbird Transducer Exchange Program for about $85 including shipping.
Posted By: jbguide
Re: Helix 9 or 10 - 05/02/16 08:08 PM
Ok thanks
Question about map on new helix 9.
just upgraded from a 798 csi to a helix 9 si. I fish a small lake that I would never expect to be mapped by any major company. on the 798 there was at least an outline of the lake. I used the same navionics card out of the 798 and put it in the helix 9 but there is no outline of this lake on the helix 9.
I know its reading the card because just down the road there is a major lake and its showing what it should there. and I went into the menu and physically selected the card at one point.
does this helix 9 not have my lake outlined on the basemap? or is the helix not liking my navionics card that's about 6 years old. would a new navionics card have an outline of the lake or was I just seeing the outline from the basemap on the 798. navionics web page does not have the lake listed since its so small.
Posted the below in its own thread before I realized there was one dedicated to this. Any help appreciated:
I have a 798 ci SI unit that was probably purchased and installed in the 2008-2009 timeframe. It has performed well over the years, but unfortunately, after the boat has sat for over a year, when I turned it on today to check it, I have a problem. The unit automatically enters demo mode (never did that before). When I switch to Normal mode it tells me the transducer is not connected. The boat is sitting in the shop on the trailer, but I never remember it saying that when it was trailered before. The unit otherwise functions and will lock in a GPS fix.
I've check the wiring and all seems to be intact. I've also checked the pin connectors at the unit and everything looks in order and clean.
Has my transducer quit on me?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/04/16 09:47 PM
Remove the display from the mount and then put it back. Just doing that may make the connections re-mate.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/05/16 12:59 AM
Question about map on new helix 9.
just upgraded from a 798 csi to a helix 9 si. I fish a small lake that I would never expect to be mapped by any major company. on the 798 there was at least an outline of the lake. I used the same navionics card out of the 798 and put it in the helix 9 but there is no outline of this lake on the helix 9.
I know its reading the card because just down the road there is a major lake and its showing what it should there. and I went into the menu and physically selected the card at one point.
does this helix 9 not have my lake outlined on the basemap? or is the helix not liking my navionics card that's about 6 years old. would a new navionics card have an outline of the lake or was I just seeing the outline from the basemap on the 798. navionics web page does not have the lake listed since its so small.
if have the gps cord. I can look at mine and see what there. Your helix should read the Nav. card
Remove the display from the mount and then put it back. Just doing that may make the connections re-mate.
Tried it, no dice.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/05/16 01:06 PM
All three versions of the 798 have the ContourXD basemap. The Helix 9 GPS models have the same ContourXD background map.
ContourXD has 3,000 bodies of water nationwide from the 2006 Navionics data.
The map cards have different data if newer than 2006 or the S2 version. Back in 2006, the map card size was 512mb. A new Hotmaps Platinum South card is 16 GB.
If you want a contour map of an unmapped body of water, just record sonar logs there and participate on the Navionics Sonar Charts program and you will have a HD contour map of that location whether there is any outline or not.
You would need a Navionics+ or Hotmaps Platinum card to get the Sonar Charts map layer. You cannot purchase Sonar Charts, it is a FREE download to those map cards.
The 798's will not read the extra stuff on the Platinum cards, but they will read the Nautical Charts and Sonar Charts maps on a Navionics+ or Hotmaps Platinum card.
The Helix 9 will read those maps and the Satellite Overlay, 3D, and photos on a Platinum card.
Since you already own a Navionics card, you can get the Navionics+ Preloaded data at a discount by purchasing the Navionics Update card and activate it will your card. The Update becomes + after activated.
You can view the current Navionics maps on their website's Web App.
What you see there is what you can have with a new card that is updated when you purchase it. The Web App is updated daily with about 2,000 additions world-wide.
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/05/16 11:04 PM
Wayne 44Diesel, okay I narrowed all my problems to the shoot thru transducer, ordered a new one and just got through
trying to test it out in various locations for the hull shoot thru, NO GOOD. It just reads 1.6' and when I pull it out and hold it in my hand on side of boat it starts reading and "drawing" fine. So I'm now thinking that it just wont shoot thru the boat? any suggestions? if its not powerful enough or the structure of the boat prohibits this
then what would be my options. I really want the unit to read at speed, is there a "transom" mount for the this? really don't want that cause I fish Lake Fork and we got nothing but stumps, but if that's the answer then I might have to that. Thanks for your help guys. David
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/05/16 11:50 PM
It should work through a thin fiberglass hull.
What boat do you have?
Did you test it with water inside the bilge to give you a solid connection to the hull?
well I figured id try and update my card online. downloaded the chart installer and plugged in my sd card. it loads then pops up saying freshest data has expired and says to purchase it click continue. so I do that and it takes me back to the chart installer download page so I click launch and it does the same thing all over again. a stupid cycle if you ask me. tried for an hour now to try and figure out how to but an update. I guess they don't want me to buy an update or something.
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/16 12:44 PM
Wayne its an Epic bay boat, and I made sure water was in it
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/16 01:09 PM
May not work on that boat. I have a Robalo and there is really no good place on mine to mount a shoot thru. The hull is full of roam and it is has self bailing system. I haven't seen the back of an Eric cc but it may to be much for the tducer to shoot thru. I run 2 transducers on my transom. A 2d and the hdsi with the splitter cable and works great. I mounted the 2d ducer just below the hull a and I put my hdsi ducer up higher and get real good images. The shoot thru hull ducer is better designed forthe bass boat. I can't ever remember seeing one on a center console with salt water hull design but sure it has been somewhere. The transom mounts will even be easier to install as well.
Posted By: BassBlack
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/16 02:06 PM
thanks 44 that's what I'm thinking, do you know what 2d transducer I would need? thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/16 02:18 PM
X nt 920
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/09/16 03:23 AM
Sorry if this has been asked but I couldn't find it in the search. I have a Helix 12 and there is an option for "GPS output" of 5hz or 10hz. Maybe it was killohertz. How do I decide which to use? I have a Humminbird external GPS puck mounted on the stern over the transducer.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/09/16 10:48 PM
the 10hz refreshes more than the 5hz. per second. the 10hz is about 10x per second and the 5hz is 5xper second
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 12:53 AM
Just curious, is there anything special you have to do to an SD card to get it to record on a 1199? I have a 64 gig card that will not let me record, then my 32 gig, I recorded on it, loded it into Autocrats, then cleared my card, now my unit won't record on it. Seams like i remember doing that encrypt thing with one, one time, but couldn't figure out how to do it the other day on the water.
The max card size you can use is 32 GB.
FORMAT your card before using it each time.
Encrypt is only for purchasing a single location Lakemaster map.
I have a Helix 12 SI on the console. When I put a 32Gb SD card in, nothing happens and it doesn't seem to recognize it. My Lakemaster card works fine. I have several blank SD cards I tried and none work. I did format them. These are SDHC cards. On Autochart Live it only gives me the "internal" option to save to. If it matters, I have the screen capture thing turned to "hidden". Any ideas?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 11:35 AM
Just curious, is there anything special you have to do to an SD card to get it to record on a 1199? I have a 64 gig card that will not let me record, then my 32 gig, I recorded on it, loded it into Autocrats, then cleared my card, now my unit won't record on it. Seams like i remember doing that encrypt thing with one, one time, but couldn't figure out how to do it the other day on the water.
The max card size you can use is 32 GB.
FORMAT your card before using it each time.
Encrypt is only for purchasing a single location Lakemaster map.
I have a Helix 12 SI on the console. When I put a 32Gb SD card in, nothing happens and it doesn't seem to recognize it. My Lakemaster card works fine. I have several blank SD cards I tried and none work. I did format them. These are SDHC cards. On Autochart Live it only gives me the "internal" option to save to. If it matters, I have the screen capture thing turned to "hidden". Any ideas?
What is your intent for the 32GB card?
A blank memory card has nothing on it for the unit to "recognize".
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 12:29 PM
Oops, sorry. I want to record Autochart Live data to take to my computer and use Autochart Pro to make custom maps then use a Zerolines card to take it back to my Helix. Interestingly, I have a Helix 12 on the console and another on the bow. Neither recognizes the blank card. I'm starting to think it's the card. This is the card I am using:
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Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 01:05 PM
Oops, sorry. I want to record Autochart Live data to take to my computer and use Autochart Pro to make custom maps then use a Zerolines card to take it back to my Helix. Interestingly, I have a Helix 12 on the console and another on the bow. Neither recognizes the blank card. I'm starting to think it's the card. This is the card I am using:
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EK3485487 No it is not the card, it is your understanding of Auto Chart Live.
First of all you cannot write Auto Chart Live to a blank memory card. It can only be written to the unit's memory or to a
Zero Line card.
Zero Line is the shoreline of bodies of water that the contours are contained within.
What you can do with a blank memory card is record sonar logs with the RECORD function in the Snapshot view menu. That records all the unit data that the computer software Auto Chart or Auto Chart Pro will process into HD contour mapping.
The two computer software products come with a Zero Line card and you can purchase it separately.
Auto Chart Live is a version of the computer software.
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 04:20 PM
Thanks for your help. I guess I'm confused on the difference between sonar data and autochart data. I want to create a custom contour map since I have found the Lakemaster map to be fairly inaccurate in my lake. I have looked for a tutorial on this but there's not much out there. Humminbird has youtube videos but they are really just advertisements. I have Autochart Pro with a zero lines card on order so hopefully that card will let me do this.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 05:08 PM
To collect data for AutoChart Pro you can use either the maps created with Auto Chart Live that is copied to a Zero Line card.
OR you can use the RECORD function to a blank memory card and let Auto Chart Pro create the contour map-then load that map to the Zero Line Card. A recording is just sonar/GPS data--not mapping of any kind.
I use that data to participate in the Navionics Sonar Charts program. Navionics creates the HD contour mapping FREE that is then downloaded to a Navionics+ or Navionics Hotmaps Platinum card to be viewed in the unit with the FishNChip setting.
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 07:03 PM
To collect data for AutoChart Pro you can use either the maps created with Auto Chart Live that is copied to a Zero Line card.
OR you can use the RECORD function to a blank memory card and let Auto Chart Pro create the contour map-then load that map to the Zero Line Card. A recording is just sonar/GPS data--not mapping of any kind.
I use that data to participate in the Navionics Sonar Charts program. Navionics creates the HD contour mapping FREE that is then downloaded to a Navionics+ or Navionics Hotmaps Platinum card to be viewed in the unit with the FishNChip setting.
This is what I was trying to do. I read in another forum this is a way you can use a blank SD card. My issue is that I cannot figure out how to record to the card. On autochart live the only option I have is "internal".
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 07:21 PM
To do a sonar log recording, go to the View Menu and set the Snapshot and Recording to Visible.
In that view, push the MENU button. The first item listed is Start Recording.
BUT before you do that or any other data involving contour mapping, set the Depth Offset in the Setup Menu to eliminate the distance the transducer is below the surface. That is assuming you want the real water depth in relation to contours instead of the distance from the transducer to the bottom.
Only Record in 15-30 minute segments in case a recording is corrupted by a transducer impact, getting too shallow, or some other cause of an sudden loss of depth or normal depth reading.
During recording, you can use any of the views and will get a pop-up note occasionally stating Recording. In any view to stop recording, just push the Menu button and select Stop Recording. You always have to start a recording in the Snapshot and Recording View. Always Stop Recording too so it is saved on the card.
The data will be in a RECORD folder on the memory card.
You can play back recordings on the unit, and you can view the recordings on your computer with the third party HumViewer software.
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 08:43 PM
That's exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/10/16 11:21 PM
That's exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks!
As you record sonar logs, save them to a file on your computer or to a memory device for future use and viewing.
I have over 200 sonar logs that I have done collecting data for the Navionics Sonar Charts program. I can use those with Auto Chart if I want.
Mine are on a USB thumb drive sorted by bodies of water.
Posted By: Dothead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/19/16 11:39 PM
Ok, I've got a Helix5 DI/gps and I'm wanting a map card for it. I'll mainly be using it in DFW area lakes. Eagle mountain, ray Roberts, Joe pool etc. Whats a good card for my unit?
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/20/16 09:56 PM
I have the Autochart PRO version. I am trying to figure out how to add satellite imagery on the surrounding land. Anyone know of a tutorial on this?
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/04/16 03:46 PM
I can't get Lake Master Smart Strike to work with my Helix 12 (or 10).
I have already upgraded the software on the units to 1.210 (the latest software). How to you access the Smart Strike functions? I am getting the mapping but none of the the Smart Strike functions.
I want to run Smart Strike only on the 12 but tried it on the 10 and no that unit either.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/04/16 05:37 PM
I can't get Lake Master Smart Strike to work with my Helix 12 (or 10).
I have already upgraded the software on the units to 1.210 (the latest software). How to you access the Smart Strike functions? I am getting the mapping but none of the the Smart Strike functions.
I want to run Smart Strike only on the 12 but tried it on the 10 and no that unit either.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/04/16 07:32 PM
go to your map screen , hit the check mark button, then a drop down will appear with the smartstrike option
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/16 02:31 AM
go to your map screen , hit the check mark button, then a drop down will appear with the smartstrike option
Perfect. Thank you very much. I will try this tomorrow! Thanks again.
Posted By: Bill Durham
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/16 12:13 AM
Posted the below in its own thread before I realized there was one dedicated to this. Any help appreciated:
I have a 798 ci SI unit that was probably purchased and installed in the 2008-2009 timeframe. It has performed well over the years, but unfortunately, after the boat has sat for over a year, when I turned it on today to check it, I have a problem. The unit automatically enters demo mode (never did that before). When I switch to Normal mode it tells me the transducer is not connected. The boat is sitting in the shop on the trailer, but I never remember it saying that when it was trailered before. The unit otherwise functions and will lock in a GPS fix.
I've check the wiring and all seems to be intact. I've also checked the pin connectors at the unit and everything looks in order and clean.
Has my transducer quit on me?
Before you spend bucks on a new transduer.. go to Fry's Electronics and get a spray can of DE-OXIT. It is the best contact cleaner for oxidation on connector contacts. Follow the instructions on the can.. remove the unit from the base and spray the contacts on both the unit and the base.. let it dry. Exercising the unit into the base connector will clean a little as well.. I would do it a few times after you have used the DE-OXIT.
Hope that does it for you
BD
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/20/16 01:54 AM
I just got the Smart Strike also. I have some areas on my lake that are somewhat inaccurate on the Lakemaster maps and I have done lots of mapping with Autochart Live. Is there a way for Smart Strike to include my Autochart mapping data?
Posted By: GWCurry
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/23/16 12:49 AM
I am about to purchase a Helix 7 SI, can this unit be upgraded to the HD transducer?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/23/16 01:55 AM
Wayne gave you a good detailed answer in your other post, but yes it can
Posted By: 24x7Fisherman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/09/16 11:20 PM
I am looking at Helix 12 Si right now. It's a little confusing about its transducer.
Here is the information from Humminbird's website.
*Optional 50 kHz transducers available for extreme deep water use and to obtain 1000 watts.
*Optional Chirp transducer purchase required for 28kHz to 250kHz and maximum 3500 ft depth performance
It looks like I have to purchase the optional transducer in order to make the Chirp to work on the unit, am I right? If the answer is yes, then what is the transducer included with package?
I will just use it for crappie fishing and body of water is not very deep, will it make a big difference to upgrade to the Chirp transducer?
Thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/09/16 11:49 PM
The helix 12 will chirp any hummingbird compatible 2d transducer. The stock transducer is the hdsi 180. The optional transducer is a true chirp transducer that is made for chirp and deeper water such as saltwater offshore and cost a good bit more for the airmar chirp transducer . The helix 12 will come with everything you need for 2d chirp straight out of the box. personally on mine I very seldom use it and I am usually fishing deeper water for stripers and hybrids.
Posted By: 24x7Fisherman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/09/16 11:54 PM
personally on mine I very seldom use it and I am usually fishing deeper water for stripers and hybrids.
Thank you very much. Why are you not using it often? I heard about all the good things about it.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/10/16 12:07 AM
personally on mine I very seldom use it and I am usually fishing deeper water for stripers and hybrids.
Thank you very much. Why are you not using it often? I heard about all the good things about it.
I use 83/200 frequency most of the time and get good enough detail with it. The down imaging shows every bit of separation in better detail than the chirp. I mainly got the helix 12 for screen size more than the chirp. But chirp can and will produce some really good 2d images if you work with it and really get it tuned in.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/10/16 12:34 AM
I have the Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS and see no difference between CHIRP and single frequency 2D sonar. I have tried to convince myself it is a wonderful thing, BUT it is not supported by on-the-water use.
I spent several hours when I first got the Helix 12 to see some type of difference between the two sonar functions and took lots of screen shots to view on my computer to see if I could tell any difference. NONE for any lakes I fish. It may be good for large fish like stripped bass in deeper water than what I fish. The lakes I have have largemouth, crappie, catfish, shad, smaller sunfish family members, and walleye.
These are some of the comparison screen shots--you can decide how wonderful CHIRP is:
I also got the Helix 12 for its screen size and brightness to run the bow 360.
I use the dual frequency for the two sets of FishID symbols.
Posted By: 24x7Fisherman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/10/16 02:10 AM
Diesel & Wayne, I really appreciate your inputs. It's very helpful.
Posted By: Codemaster
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/16 07:46 PM
If I buy the Helix 9 DI...can I later buy an SI transducer so I can do both DI & SI?
I tried searching for this answer but came up short.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/16 07:51 PM
If I buy the Helix 9 DI...can I later buy an SI transducer so I can do both DI & SI?
I tried searching for this answer but came up short.
No, if you want Side Imaging with a Side Imaging transducer, you have to purchase a Side Imaging unit.
Two ways to have Side Imaging with a Down Imaging unit.
1. Connect a Side Imaging unit to it via Ethernet and share that technology.
2. Add a 360 transducer and the 360 will give the DI unit Side Imaging.
Posted By: Codemaster
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/16 08:06 PM
Thanks. Other question is what is the difference between the SI GPS and the SI GPS KVD?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/10/16 11:19 PM
Thanks. Other question is what is the difference between the SI GPS and the SI GPS KVD?
Exact same model and functions except the KVD version has some red bling and comes with some lures/maybe a book too.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/15/16 07:06 PM
Humminbird 598 ci hd si. Does anyone have an approximate guess as to how much a transducer and cable would cost for this unit? And are they available? Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/15/16 07:26 PM
Humminbird 598 ci hd si. Does anyone have an approximate guess as to how much a transducer and cable would cost for this unit? And are they available? Thanks
The standard transducer for that model is the transom
XNT 9 SI 180 T with a MSRP of $199.99
It will produce sharper images with the transom transducer
XHS 9 HDSI 180 T with a MSRP of $269.99.
Contact Shut-Up-And-Fish or a marine electronics dealer or do a web search for those models. They are current transducers used with the current Helix SI models.
Posted By: 1961Yaloo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/15/16 07:48 PM
Thank you Wayne. I always appreciate your help.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/28/16 01:47 PM
I have a Minnkota Terrova 80 24v with built in transducer, what HB Down Image unit will work using this transducer,..??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/28/16 02:00 PM
The US2 transducer is 2d only. If you want down imaging on the trolling motor you will have to mount the transducer directly to the motor.
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/29/16 01:52 PM
Does anyone know of a way to add preferred routes to my lakemaster display?
The navionics on my iPad has them. Just stay on the light dashed magenta line and you will negotiate the bouys just fine. Lakemaster shows where the bouys are, but it can be very confusing at the intersections.
Now that the tva has dropped the lake level, a misread bout can easily results in lower unit repair or worse.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/29/16 03:01 PM
Does anyone know of a way to add preferred routes to my lakemaster display?
The navionics on my iPad has them. Just stay on the light dashed magenta line and you will negotiate the bouys just fine. Lakemaster shows where the bouys are, but it can be very confusing at the intersections.
Now that the tva has dropped the lake level, a misread bout can easily results in lower unit repair or worse.
Where do you see routes with the Navionics Mobile App?????
Edited: I see them on Kentucky Lake. That is a Navionics map feature recently added. One of my map cards has not been updated for a couple of months and those lines are not on that map.
Whomever supplied that data would be the source for Lakemaster to add it to their maps.
Lakemaster has annual map editions so IF that would be added, it would be late Winter before a new map card is released.
Navionics updates their maps daily and new stuff is available to download via the Freshest Data program.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/29/16 03:53 PM
Does anyone know of a way to add preferred routes to my lakemaster display?
The navionics on my iPad has them. Just stay on the light dashed magenta line and you will negotiate the bouys just fine. Lakemaster shows where the bouys are, but it can be very confusing at the intersections.
Now that the tva has dropped the lake level, a misread bout can easily results in lower unit repair or worse.
What you might have to do is run the route with the Navionics and save that route to your unit. That way it will always show up. Sometimes the Lakemaster doesn't always have the details of the Navionics
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/29/16 04:01 PM
Does anyone know of a way to add preferred routes to my lakemaster display?
The navionics on my iPad has them. Just stay on the light dashed magenta line and you will negotiate the bouys just fine. Lakemaster shows where the bouys are, but it can be very confusing at the intersections.
Now that the tva has dropped the lake level, a misread bout can easily results in lower unit repair or worse.
What you might have to do is run the route with the Navionics and save that route to your unit. That way it will always show up. Sometimes the Lakemaster doesn't always have the details of the Navionics
If you did it with your unit, that would be a GPS
Track. You can make it appear similar by either editing the Saved Track or changing the Default Saved Track setting to resemble that dashed line before you record it.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/29/16 04:26 PM
Does anyone know of a way to add preferred routes to my lakemaster display?
The navionics on my iPad has them. Just stay on the light dashed magenta line and you will negotiate the bouys just fine. Lakemaster shows where the bouys are, but it can be very confusing at the intersections.
Now that the tva has dropped the lake level, a misread bout can easily results in lower unit repair or worse.
Just updated one of my Navionics cards and it does not have those lines for Kentucky Lake. That means it is on the Web App and Mobile App but has not been added to the Update server yet, so no map card would have it yet.
Correction, I re-checked a little more closely for those lines and they are there, but very small dotted black lines about the same size as contour lines. They would be very hard to follow even with a 20' Zoom range.
The orange highlighted channels would be easier to see, but there would be no cross-lake paths indicated.
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/16 07:30 PM
Wayne..that capture is right by my place. ThAts where the blood river meets the Tennessee. Those humps are in my summer and winter pattern.
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/16 09:50 PM
If I network a 998c SI with a Helix 12 CHIRP will the 998 be able to show the CHIRP image from the 12?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/16 11:48 PM
If I network a 998c SI with a Helix 12 CHIRP will the 998 be able to show the CHIRP image from the 12?
No, it will share 2d but you will have to turn off Chirp. It will only share Chirp with another Chirp unit and currently Chirp is only available on the Helix 12s and Onix. The onix will only share waypoints with core units
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/22/16 01:06 AM
If I network a 998c SI with a Helix 12 CHIRP will the 998 be able to show the CHIRP image from the 12?
No, it will share 2d but you will have to turn off Chirp. It will only share Chirp with another Chirp unit and currently Chirp is only available on the Helix 12s and Onix. The onix will only share waypoints with core units
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/22/16 01:51 AM
Thanks for the info gentlemen. Much appreciated. If I move my 998c SI to the bow what transducer should I put on the trolling motor? Thanks again.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/22/16 02:40 AM
The same one that came with the 998, might want to use a transducer and shield saver trolling motor mount
Posted By: Bob Landry
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/23/16 12:04 AM
They make a short version of that transducer mount that works very well on the TM.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/16 01:02 AM
Just replaced a HB688 combo with a new HB Helix7 with GPS/SI/DI, installed by a
reputable boat dealer shop. The Helex GPS is stellar, sonar is great, the SI and DI are terrible.
DI has a very weak return, looks like I'm getting about 50%, the SI is worse, wavery and unviewable.
The 688 was good, only relaced it to go bigger and better. The transducer sets next to my Garmin93SV as did my
other. The Garmin still works great. Any help with the Helix...???
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/16 01:29 AM
can you post a pic of the transducer install?
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/16 01:55 AM
tomorrow, with graph pics too,..Thanks 44D
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/16 02:18 AM
Last weekend as I was removing my 998 si transducer I found unbenonced to me that I had a y cable going to a 2d through hull transducer. Finally got to run my Helix 12 today. When I get on plane I lose sonar as well as SI. I knew I would loose SI but didn't expect to lose sonar. Can I y to the 2d sonar transducer though the hull and if so how will this effect the CHIRP?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/16 03:26 AM
yes you can, that is probably the best setup for your boat, it will have no effect on chirp. The unit chirps the transducer through the processor so you will still have chirp . The y cable will separate the signals from the transducers due to the way the y cable is pinned out.
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/13/16 01:18 AM
For my Helix 12 should I get a autochart no line card or will a regular SIM card be as good? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/13/16 02:07 AM
Autochart Zeroline
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/13/16 11:02 PM
Helix 10 software update instructions discrepancy.
The Helix 9 and Helix 10 Operations guide, page 155. Step 3 says to "Install the SD card with the updated software file into the control head slot."
Step 4 says to "Power on: The control head will recognize the new software..."
In contrast to this, the MyHumminbird website update directions, step 5, says "POWER ON YOUR UNIT, allow the unit to go through the complete start up BEFORE pressing any buttons or selecting any menu options. After the unit has completed the loading process and you have clicked through the warnings and information, place the SD card in the unit."
So which is it? SD card then power up, or power up then insert the SD card?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/13/16 11:10 PM
Helix 10 software update instructions discrepancy.
The Helix 9 and Helix 10 Operations guide, page 155. Step 3 says to "Install the SD card with the updated software file into the control head slot."
Step 4 says to "Power on: The control head will recognize the new software..."
In contrast to this, the MyHumminbird website update directions, step 5, says "POWER ON YOUR UNIT, allow the unit to go through the complete start up BEFORE pressing any buttons or selecting any menu options. After the unit has completed the loading process and you have clicked through the warnings and information, place the SD card in the unit."
So which is it? SD card then power up, or power up then insert the SD card?
FULLY start the unit up in Normal or Simulator, THEN put the memory card in the unit to load the update.
If you do it the other way, the unit will ignore the memory card.
MEGA IMAGING BRING FISHING INTO FOCUS
Look closely. You've never seen anything like new MEGA Imaging™, Delivering nearly 3X the output of standard Side Imaging®, this groundbreaking technology takes fishfinding into the megahertz frequency for the very first time. It's indisputably the clearest, sharpest sonar image ever-brought to you by the undisputed leader.
http://www.humminbird.com/Category/Technology/MEGA-Imaging/#id_AutoChartLive The Leader Keeps Leading.....
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/16/16 03:43 AM
MEGA IMAGING BRING FISHING INTO FOCUS
Look closely. You've never seen anything like new MEGA Imaging™, Delivering nearly 3X the output of standard Side Imaging®, this groundbreaking technology takes fishfinding into the megahertz frequency for the very first time. It's indisputably the clearest, sharpest sonar image ever-brought to you by the undisputed leader.
http://www.humminbird.com/Category/Technology/MEGA-Imaging/#id_AutoChartLive The Leader Keeps Leading..... Another big announcement coming tomorrow in addition to the gen 2 helix
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/17/16 01:27 AM
With chirp also on the 9 and 10. Be interested to see what they will cost.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/17/16 01:29 AM
these are the prices I saw
The MSRP for the 9-10-12 (SI units) is 1099, 1599 and 2499.
about $100 more than what the gen 1 sold for
Posted By: Bob Landry
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/17/16 01:44 AM
Don't look for any discounted pricing for a while.
With chirp also on the 9 and 10. Be interested to see what they will cost.
HUMMINBIRD HELIX 12 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N COMBO. $2499.99. Eta 1 /16/17
HUMMINBIRD HELIX 10 CHRIP MEGA SI GPS G2N COMBO. $1699.99. ETA 12/16/16
HUMMINBIRD HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N COMBO. $1299.99. ETA 12/16/16
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/21/16 05:31 PM
Did the other big announcement ever come out on the Gen 2 Helix?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/21/16 06:31 PM
Did the other big announcement ever come out on the Gen 2 Helix?
The only G2 models are the Helix 5 and 7 which got CHIRP Imaging as well as CHIRP 2D sonar. They have other enhancements too.
The Helix 5 G2 was announced around the middle of October.
The Helix 7 G2N has Ethernet networking, but not MEGA SI.
The speculated "BIG" announcement was about the ONIX = nothing.
A look into the new Mega SI transducer
Posted By: Mo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/28/16 05:49 PM
Are the Onix being discontinued ? Cabellas has the 8 si combo in their bargain cave
for under 1 k
Mo
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/28/16 11:58 PM
Are the Onix being discontinued ? Cabellas has the 8 si combo in their bargain cave
for under 1 k
Mo
Not totally for sure if discontinued but they have something new coming out in a month or so. Maybe a new onix
Posted By: Not2Old2Fish
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/04/16 08:09 PM
High frequency sonar, wasn't water clarity a problem depending
on how much plankton, thermocline, bait, stired up mud, prop wash etc.
As far as quality of picture.
If you have a crystal clear Lake, good structure and fish display.
Bad water clarity lake, not good.
Are the Onix being discontinued ? Cabellas has the 8 si combo in their bargain cave
for under 1 k
Mo
Yes the Onix series are going away...
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/07/16 02:52 AM
Installed it Saturday, there are some glitches using the Standby setting in Normal and Simulator.
Posted By: Joey J.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/13/16 03:20 PM
I want to be able to power on my Helix 7 at home while my boat is in my storage. I've ordered an extra power cord, but I really don't want to keep a full size 12 volt batter in my house. Are there other options for powering up my unit? A smaller lawnmower battery for instance or even plugging it into an electrical outlet?
Thanks for any and all input and suggestions.
Posted By: SweetRay
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/13/16 03:27 PM
Yes you can use a smaller 12 volt battery. The kayak guys use a small 12 volt battery to run there fish finders out on the water. You can just youtube kayak fishfinder battery.
I want to be able to power on my Helix 7 at home while my boat is in my storage. I've ordered an extra power cord, but I really don't want to keep a full size 12 volt batter in my house. Are there other options for powering up my unit? A smaller lawnmower battery for instance or even plugging it into an electrical outlet?
Thanks for any and all input and suggestions.
Posted By: Joey J.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/15/16 04:36 PM
Yes you can use a smaller 12 volt battery. The kayak guys use a small 12 volt battery to run there fish finders out on the water. You can just youtube kayak fishfinder battery.
What he said. I have a 12volt 10ah sealed lead acid battery for my kayak that will run my Hook 5 for many hours. You can get by with a 7ah battery just won't power it as long.
That will work just fine. I have a similar one except mine also has a cigarette lighter plug in addition to the terminals.
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/16 12:39 PM
I want to be able to power on my Helix 7 at home while my boat is in my storage. I've ordered an extra power cord, but I really don't want to keep a full size 12 volt batter in my house. Are there other options for powering up my unit? A smaller lawnmower battery for instance or even plugging it into an electrical outlet?
Thanks for any and all input and suggestions.
Did you move it?
No we sold all we had after posting it here. When an item sells out it goes away on the site and will return when back in stock.
We should have more in late this week or early next week.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/28/16 02:21 AM
Posted By: RODS454
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/16/17 02:46 PM
Precision NMEA0183 GPS Receiver with Heading Sensor
Got a question about the GPS with heading sensor.
Are 1197 units compatible with this GPS? I tried on both 1197's I have. Neither sensed it. Hooked it to my Helix 10 and it works. Not sure what my version of software is. Maybe an update to make it work?
Thanks
Introducing the latest from Humminbird.....Solix Series
http://www.humminbird.com/Freshwater/Lifestyle/SOLIX_FW/
Posted By: toofy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/17/17 09:15 PM
I just saw that promo. It looks more like Onix than Helix. Is this supposed to be an Onix replacement?
Yes sir,The Onix seris are going away. The New Solix will fill it's place.
Introducing the latest from Humminbird.....Solix Series
http://www.humminbird.com/Freshwater/Lifestyle/SOLIX_FW/
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/17/17 10:20 PM
http://cl.exct.net/?qs=9deb24684da9e2f873a105f2c2d17551d24afe154cb73382fa4ad78404bb63cd Good Morning!
We wanted to make you aware of an upcoming software update that will dramatically improve the performance of your ONIX system(s).
Included in this free update are a number of features that will help you find more fish along with some usability enhancements to make going from screen-to-screen easier than ever.
NEW FEATURES INCLUDED IN THE PENDING SOFTWARE UPDATE INCLUDE:
• AutoChart Live® with Vegetation and Bottom Hardness mapping capabilities - in addition to mapping the depths of your favorite body of water, you will now be able to chart vegetation and bottom hardness, granting you access to the trifecta of fish-holding habitat!
• iPilot® Link™ "Follow" Vegetation and Bottom Hardness - connect your ONIX with your applicable Minn Kota® trolling motor with i-Pilot Link and follow the contour lines of your newly mapped depths, vegetation and bottom hardness
• iPilot Link BT Support
• iPilot Link Virtual Remote
• iPilot Link Circle Mode
• Humminbird CHIRP Radar Support for the new HB 2124
• Side Imaging and Down Imaging Switchfire support
• 2D sonar contrast
• Pressing and holding the "check" key now quickly changes frequency
• The encoder knob now changes sensitivity on all sonar types
• The +/- keys change range on SI unless the cursor is active in which case the user will get a SI Zoom Cursor
• Added support for multi-layer ChartSelect cards
• Added new options to Standby Mode. Options allow for all sonar to be turned off, Imaging sonar to remain on, or all sonar to remain on
• Voltage readout overlay
• Updates to UI and menus include
• New touch targets at the top of each view to assist with quicker settings changes
• New X-Press menu shortcuts to assist with quicker settings changes
• Rework of several tool locations on the Home Screen
• New Angle and Custom UI modes to help prioritize high-use menu items.
• Dramatic system-wide performance increases
This software update is scheduled to occur in March. We will inform you when it is available.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/18/17 10:35 PM
Posted By: burner42
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/01/17 07:34 PM
Hey Guys,
I have a 1198si, when I am in map mode following an old route I put it on 200 magnification through a tricky stump area, but after a few seconds it zooms back out automatically 1000, any reason for this? is it a setting I accidentally set or a malfunction?
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/01/17 08:06 PM
Hey Guys,
I have a 1198si, when I am in map mode following an old route I put it on 200 magnification through a tricky stump area, but after a few seconds it zooms back out automatically 1000, any reason for this? is it a setting I accidentally set or a malfunction?
Thanks
You have it set to do that. If you don't want it to do, that turn off Auto Range in the Chart main menu.
Posted By: burner42
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/01/17 11:50 PM
Thanks Wayne!
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/17 11:07 PM
Installing a mega si chirp transducer on a spring back bracket, would it hurt to have the transducer sitting 1/8 - 1/4 inch below the transom?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/17 11:21 PM
not all if you are wanting to get 2d/di/si from 1 transducer especially with that sbb bracket.. Just remember though that the transducer is about $350 to replace. I have had my hdsi/onix transducers on the sbb without any issues though
Posted By: texboxer
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/04/17 11:44 PM
Thank you sir. Very much!
Posted By: StratVoodoo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 01:00 AM
I have two Helix 10's linked with a 360 and SI / DI transducer via a 5-port Ethernet hub. My console unit operates fine. The bow unit is networked to read the consoles SI & DI signal. I keep getting a message that the SI / DI signal is lost on the bow unit. Any ideas what might be going on?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 01:06 AM
I have two Helix 10's linked with a 360 and SI / DI transducer via a 5-port Ethernet hub. My console unit operates fine. The bow unit is networked to read the consoles SI & DI signal. I keep getting a message that the SI / DI signal is lost on the bow unit. Any ideas what might be going on?
try booting up the console unit first. It can a little bit for the network to set itself up.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 01:10 AM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Posted By: StratVoodoo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 01:28 PM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Thanks Wayne! I switched hub ports last night. It got too late so I'll give it a try this evening. No cards in the bow unit & a brand new cable & dongle adapter. On #4, can the cable direction actually affect the signal? Not questioning your knowledge, just trying to learn.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 02:18 PM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Thanks Wayne! I switched hub ports last night. It got too late so I'll give it a try this evening. No cards in the bow unit & a brand new cable & dongle adapter. On #4, can the cable direction actually affect the signal? Not questioning your knowledge, just trying to learn.
No, just the fit may be better in the opposite direction and lets you check the cable twice for a defect.
While you are at it and if the cable is long enough, use it between the Ethernet Switch and other unit to verify its function.
Posted By: StratVoodoo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 02:32 PM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Thanks Wayne! I switched hub ports last night. It got too late so I'll give it a try this evening. No cards in the bow unit & a brand new cable & dongle adapter. On #4, can the cable direction actually affect the signal? Not questioning your knowledge, just trying to learn.
No, just the fit may be better in the opposite direction and lets you check the cable twice for a defect.
While you are at it and if the cable is long enough, use it between the Ethernet Switch and other unit to verify its function.
Will do & thanks again! I'll try to check the ethernet cable off of the console unit to the hub also. If my thinking is correct, a fault with the ethernet cable from the console unit to the hub could also cause this issue also couldn't it, since that's the link to the transducer for the bow unit?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 03:38 PM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Thanks Wayne! I switched hub ports last night. It got too late so I'll give it a try this evening. No cards in the bow unit & a brand new cable & dongle adapter. On #4, can the cable direction actually affect the signal? Not questioning your knowledge, just trying to learn.
No, just the fit may be better in the opposite direction and lets you check the cable twice for a defect.
While you are at it and if the cable is long enough, use it between the Ethernet Switch and other unit to verify its function.
Will do & thanks again! I'll try to check the ethernet cable off of the console unit to the hub also. If my thinking is correct, a fault with the ethernet cable from the console unit to the hub could also cause this issue also couldn't it, since that's the link to the transducer for the bow unit?
Yes, that one too. Need to isolate where the issue is.
If you can, connect the units together directly without going through the Ethernet Switch.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 04:04 PM
Have you checked the wiring on the Ethernet switch to make sure it's connections are good and getting power? Is the Ethernet hub connected to a switch? Can you get 360 at the console unit?
Posted By: StratVoodoo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/10/17 05:04 PM
Diesel,
Power appears to be good to the Ethernet hub (I'll double check with a meter this evening). I believe that the Ethernet hub power is wired through the accessory switch, but I'd have to confirm. Yes, I do get 360 signal at the console. It's kinda been one of those things where it hasn't been consistent enough to nail down a cause. If I don't stumble across a culprit, thinking about just re-wiring power to the units & 360. I bought the boat used, so I don't fully know how everything is wired up & want to make sure any bugs are worked out.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/17 04:41 AM
12.4V at the battery means it is not fully charged.
12.4V loaded voltage at the unit is great-have you checked the unit digital readout voltage?
12.4v is what the unit digital read out is measuring. When you go to the diagnostics screen
I ended up opening the unit and not being able to find any visible damage(I was an "Electronic Technician" in my youth) went ahead and paid the 250 to get it fixed by the professionals at Humminbird. Thanks for your help. I pointed a fellow fisherman to this topic. I was at the Basspro shops and one of the Crappie Seminar attendees asked about settings. I told him you'd be happy to help.
Posted By: StratVoodoo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/12/17 02:26 PM
Stuff to try:
1. Move the bow unit Ethernet connection to another port on the Ethernet Switch.
2. Remove any map or memory cards from the bow unit, test.
3. Restore Defaults on the bow unit.
4. Remove the Ethernet cable and route it backwards of what you have.
5. Change the Ethernet cable.
Thanks Wayne! I switched hub ports last night. It got too late so I'll give it a try this evening. No cards in the bow unit & a brand new cable & dongle adapter. On #4, can the cable direction actually affect the signal? Not questioning your knowledge, just trying to learn.
No, just the fit may be better in the opposite direction and lets you check the cable twice for a defect.
While you are at it and if the cable is long enough, use it between the Ethernet Switch and other unit to verify its function.
Will do & thanks again! I'll try to check the ethernet cable off of the console unit to the hub also. If my thinking is correct, a fault with the ethernet cable from the console unit to the hub could also cause this issue also couldn't it, since that's the link to the transducer for the bow unit?
Took the boat out yesterday and same thing for about 30 minutes like it has been doing. After a while of switching back from the map screen (probably 5-6 times of getting the SI signal lost message), it locks in and doesn't do it for the rest of the day.
Posted By: donothin
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/17 04:11 PM
I have an Onix on an old Sea Pro Center Console and everything works fine except I can't make a shoot thru the hull transducer work. Apparently something in the hull that interferes. What is the appropriate transom transducer? The Y cable that I have has a plug in type end for the 2D transducer.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/17 04:21 PM
I have an Onix on an old Sea Pro Center Console and everything works fine except I can't make a shoot thru the hull transducer work. Apparently something in the hull that interferes. What is the appropriate transom transducer? The Y cable that I have has a plug in type end for the 2D transducer.
Posted By: donothin
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/24/17 06:58 PM
Thanks Diesel, I was about to order the wrong one.
Posted By: Buddy E
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/13/17 04:32 PM
is there a chart or map for Caddo Lake available, been there several times, but I have a new Hummingbird finder and I would like to have one for the lake
Posted By: Ryno
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/21/17 06:00 PM
I have an 1198c that will not read the depth, nor do I get a reading for my down scan. Side scan seems to work fine.
Water temp reading works, volts work basically everything except depth and down scan. I only have 1 transducer and I don't have anyone around me I can swap mine out for theirs to see if it's my unit.
This is the first time i've had the boat out this season. The unit worked just fine last fall. Suggestions?
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/08/17 09:43 PM
My bow ONIX 10 SI suddenly will not boot up completely. It was working fine last week. The initial startup seems fine, but the CONFIRM button never comes up and the scrolling indicator light finally times out and the screen goes blank. Any suggestions before I have to send it to HB? THX
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/08/17 10:15 PM
Have you checked the battery and make sure connections are all still good? Do you have another Onix you can switch with at the console?
Posted By: jiggerman
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/17 01:59 AM
How does a helix 7 signal you are on top of a set waypoint?
Posted By: Ranger481
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/17 01:35 AM
I see a Helix 7 chartplotter on Universal Mania for $295. I have a Helix 12 networked with a 998c. What would I need to network the three and could I utilize the same puck my Helix uses or would it have to have its own puck? My 998 is at the bow with its own puck.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/17 11:59 AM
If that Helix 7 is not the G2N version, it is not networkable with any connection.
The GPS versions of all Helix models have internal GPS antennas.
All three Helix 7 G2N models will support a direct connected GPS external GPS antenna.
The first generation and G2 Helix 7 GPS models can only have an external GPS antenna connected via spliced Y cable to provide power.
IF that unit is a G2N, you can connect it to the other two units via the AS ETH 5PXG Ethernet switch.
Each device would directly connect to the switch via Ethernet cable. Would need the AS ED QDE Ethernet adapter just like you did with whichever the 6 models of Helix 12 you have.
Posted By: Bill Durham
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/19/17 04:52 PM
There have been several threads about TM interference on bow mount 'birds. I had that problem as well.. irritating to say the least. There were multiple things offerec as possible solutions and I tried several with not much results. I separated the TM power cable from the transducer cable.. I had them cable tied together and that helped some. But what ultimately fixed it for me is I covered the Finder power cable with braided copper shield wire and terminated one end to the ground connections of the Finder power. Its a pain in the butt to push the Finder power cable through the braid but it took care of the problem. Humminbird should consider providing shielded power cable for their units.. In my case, my power cable is about 4' long. so it only took about 30 minutes to push the wire through.. if I had to do one that was the whole length of the cable, I would probably use some kind of messenger or fish tape to go through the braid and then attach the power cable to it and pull it back through the braid. I'm pretty sure you can get braid cable at Mouser.com I got mine at an Estate sale of a Ham Radio operator. Hope this helps somebody!
BD
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/27/17 11:39 AM
There have been several threads about TM interference on bow mount 'birds. I had that problem as well.. irritating to say the least. There were multiple things offerec as possible solutions and I tried several with not much results. I separated the TM power cable from the transducer cable.. I had them cable tied together and that helped some. But what ultimately fixed it for me is I covered the Finder power cable with braided copper shield wire and terminated one end to the ground connections of the Finder power. Its a pain in the butt to push the Finder power cable through the braid but it took care of the problem. Humminbird should consider providing shielded power cable for their units.. In my case, my power cable is about 4' long. so it only took about 30 minutes to push the wire through.. if I had to do one that was the whole length of the cable, I would probably use some kind of messenger or fish tape to go through the braid and then attach the power cable to it and pull it back through the braid. I'm pretty sure you can get braid cable at Mouser.com I got mine at an Estate sale of a Ham Radio operator. Hope this helps somebody!
BD
Posted By: mreed
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/29/17 01:17 PM
I have a helix 7 DI/GPS unit, the other day we had a pretty heavy rainstorm blow through, the next morning I took my boat out and noticed there was a little water behind the screen protector and the unit would not turn on. I then unplugged and removed the unit to find it had taken on more than a couple drops of water. Will my warranty cover this or is there a repair/replacement program? Or am I S.O.L.?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/29/17 02:51 PM
I have a helix 7 DI/GPS unit, the other day we had a pretty heavy rainstorm blow through, the next morning I took my boat out and noticed there was a little water behind the screen protector and the unit would not turn on. I then unplugged and removed the unit to find it had taken on more than a couple drops of water. Will my warranty cover this or is there a repair/replacement program? Or am I S.O.L.?
If it still has warranty left then yes they will take care of ya.
Posted By: Cactusflyr
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/17 01:20 AM
Anybody in the north Dfw area running mega? Love to see it in person before making a decision. I run a garmin 7612xsv with down and forward looking panoptix....if your interested in seeing that. Love the panoptix and am going to keep it, but might run both. Mainly fish Lewisville and ray roberts. Even have a garmin 94sv that will run panoptix if you are considering that. Pm if interested.
Posted By: Capt Craig
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/19/17 08:36 PM
Humminbird Helix Sonar Manuals fresh from the printer!!
I have received Sonar class requests as far away as Kentucky and have had students drive in from Louisiana and Oklahoma. The response has been overwhelming to my classes and I have really enjoyed seeing anglers excitement when things come together and they gain the skills to interpret their sonars. Not every angler that has contacted me has been able to trailer in to take my class, so I have written a manual for anglers.
It is a Humminbird Helix manual designed for anglers. The manual is 7 Chapters and 60 single-sided 8.5" by 11" pages with black & white and color images. The manual goes through every tab in the Helix Menu and into detail about specific settings and why I recommend those settings.
GPS and mapping, Helix Tabs and settings, Basic Sonar Shapes, a chapter dedicated to sonar interpretation, and understanding the 2-Dimensional image compression of a 3-Dimensional environment. Chapters using real sonar screens with explanations and interpretations to help you learn to better your skills at reading echo returns and included are practice screen shots.
There is a chapter that goes into Side and Down Imaging also. To give you a better understanding and explanation of what the screen can show you and how to read it.
This manual is designed be more user friendly and help anglers get more from their Sonar/Chartplotters and less technical than the supplied manuals that accompanied your units. In order to get the most benefit, I recommend using both together. For topics that you want the more information on, refer to the owner's manual to get technical specifics about a particular setting or feature.
The first 40 sold will be $40 and will include the cost of the manual, sales tax and shipping in the US. The printer is working on these right now and should be done in the next week. I am taking advance orders now you can pay by check or paypal friends/family. Please send me a PM here and I will follow up with you.
Thanks - Craig
Posted By: akharrison
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/20/17 03:31 AM
Which unit do you think is better to have/buy a Helix 10 SI new or a 1199CI HD SI COMBO used? and Why?
Thanks,
Posted By: Capt Craig
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/20/17 03:01 PM
The Helix series are better than the 1100 series. The Helix 10 is brighter and has better resolution than the 1100 as well. They both use the same transducer.
I would encourage you to spend a little more and get the Helix 10 CHIRP MEGA SI G2N. It is leaps and bounds better for only $200 price difference. If not, you will regret it.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/23/17 12:16 AM
It is more than that.
The Helix 9 replaced the 800 series.
The Helix 10 replaced the 900 series.
The Helix 12 replaced the 1100 series.
Posted By: Capt Craig
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/23/17 01:03 AM
In my opinion the Helix 10 replaces the 1100 in quality and resolution, granted the screen is slightly smaller than the 1100 series. The Helix 12 is a standout and surpasses the 1100 even more with a larger screen than the 10. The MEGA is simply the best of the best and currently a stand alone when it comes to the best you can buy today. I have yet to see another company producing anything that is on par with the Helix MEGA.
Posted By: john olson
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/23/17 03:49 PM
Iwould like to order the Manual.I can be reached at 817-825-8596.
Posted By: Capt Craig
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/23/17 08:51 PM
Got you taken care of John.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/28/17 04:54 PM
I need some help...
I have a Solix 12 and a Helix 10 DI G2, Ethernet cable is in place, I updated both units to the latest software this weekend.
I can't seem to get the units to communicate. I can't see the other unit. All I need to do is share waypoints I create.
Ideas? I am missing something?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/28/17 05:26 PM
Are either units showing up in the network menus?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/28/17 07:01 PM
I need some help...
I have a Solix 12 and a Helix 10 DI G2, Ethernet cable is in place, I updated both units to the latest software this weekend.
I can't seem to get the units to communicate. I can't see the other unit. All I need to do is share waypoints I create.
Ideas? I am missing something?
Have you checked the Nav Data menu to see if both unit's waypoints are displayed?
That is the only networking function you will have and it is not menu driven like when linking two SOLIX or two Helix.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/29/17 10:21 PM
Thanks Wayne. I will run and take a look. I didn't check that actually. I just can't see the Helix from the Solix and vice versa in the networking menu. On the previous boats I could see all the units on the network and could switch transducers, GPS location, etc.
I appreciate it. All I want to do is create and view waypoints from both units.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/29/17 10:27 PM
Thanks Wayne. I will run and take a look. I didn't check that actually. I just can't see the Helix from the Solix and vice versa in the networking menu. On the previous boats I could see all the units on the network and could switch transducers, GPS location, etc.
I appreciate it. All I want to do is create and view waypoints from both units.
In the SOLIX Nav Data menu, the Helix waypoints will be listed as Helix in the Group column.
If you Import them from the Helix, they will be listed as My Data and will be in the SOLIX waypoint library.
Start the SOLIX up first and then the Helix.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/17 02:42 PM
Wayne- tried yesterday and no dice- no waypoints listed. Also, not sure when it happened exactly but my Helix 10 GPS isn't working at all. I see tracks from a couple previous trips but no more GPS location or current tracks. I am not sure if the problem started after I upgraded to the latest software or not. Any ideas?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/17 02:50 PM
If your not getting a gps lock your waypoints will not share. A lot of times GPS issues are caused by inadequate power. Either bad battery, bad connections, not powering directly to battery or dedicated power source.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/17 03:27 PM
Thanks 44 Diesel. I did notice the other day that my Helix 10 was off when I went up to the bow which is something I haven't ever experienced with previous HB units.
The Helix 10 was installed by Bass Cat- boat is a 2018. The Solix was installed by the dealer. I will check the power.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/17 03:50 PM
The dealers are notorious for wiring to the boat harness or an accessory fuse panel, neither is good for electronics.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 01:48 PM
I am still having issues with no GPS on the Helix 10. This is different from when I had a puck go out on an 1197. Then, i would get a "No GPS position" message (or something similar). Now, it looks like it is looking for a position and trying to get a boat direction but never gets a position. I can see old tracks on the Nav screen but no new ones. Any ideas? Think this is a bad unit? It is a brand new Helix 10 G2 that came on my 2018 Bass Cat. I upgraded the software to the latest version and did a "Set to Factory Default" on the unit and nothing appears to be working. I was wondering if there was something that needed to be calibrated?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 03:09 PM
Are you in a clear area with no obstructions so the GPS can get a clear view of the sky
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 03:50 PM
Definitely.. I am on the lake when it doesn't work.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 04:15 PM
Have you looked at the GPS veiw to see if the unit is trying to acquire satellites
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 04:34 PM
No, I haven't. This would be a good idea. I don't remember where that is located at on the Helix 10 G2N.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 04:55 PM
Press and hold the view button. A menu will drop down. Select system then GPS diagnostics veiw, if I remembered it correctly
Which adapter cable do I need to hook up a hb. 688ci hd di to the xi5. tried the 7 pin and it would not work on 2d sonar , and I know it will only work on 2d.Those outlet stores must all be in china!!!!
Posted By: Capt Craig
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 07:42 PM
Did you Restore Default Settings BEFORE installing the update? If so that is correct, but still doesn't mean it didn't have a software glitch.
If it is showing you on the lake and moving, but not leaving a track, the track may be disabled. Go into the main menu and Navigation Tab and highlight Current Track. Right arrow and ensure that Stop Tracking has not been selected.
Refer to your manual on getting to the satellite screen to determine if it is locking on.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/05/17 08:11 PM
Did you Restore Default Settings BEFORE installing the update? If so that is correct, but still doesn't mean it didn't have a software glitch.
If it is showing you on the lake and moving, but not leaving a track, the track may be disabled. Go into the main menu and Navigation Tab and highlight Current Track. Right arrow and ensure that Stop Tracking has not been selected.
Refer to your manual on getting to the satellite screen to determine if it is locking on.
It is the
GPS Diagnostic view, you can turn that on in the Views Menu or select it in the SYSTEM STATUS on the first start-up screen after pushing MENU when prompted.
Posted By: Diezel_Rocker
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/06/17 01:42 AM
Did you Restore Default Settings BEFORE installing the update? If so that is correct, but still doesn't mean it didn't have a software glitch.
If it is showing you on the lake and moving, but not leaving a track, the track may be disabled. Go into the main menu and Navigation Tab and highlight Current Track. Right arrow and ensure that Stop Tracking has not been selected.
Refer to your manual on getting to the satellite screen to determine if it is locking on.
It is the
GPS Diagnostic view, you can turn that on in the Views Menu or select it in the SYSTEM STATUS on the first start-up screen after pushing MENU when prompted.
I will go take a look. I don't think i restored factory defaults before the software upgrade but then again it was a brand new boat and I don't think i changed anything from factory default except changing from North Up to Heading Up. It sounds like you guys don't think the unit is toast. That is a good thing. Hopefully, I can get it working.
There is no position and no new tracks. It never knows my boat left its dry storage. All I see are old tracks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/06/17 07:49 PM
Did you Restore Default Settings BEFORE installing the update? If so that is correct, but still doesn't mean it didn't have a software glitch.
If it is showing you on the lake and moving, but not leaving a track, the track may be disabled. Go into the main menu and Navigation Tab and highlight Current Track. Right arrow and ensure that Stop Tracking has not been selected.
Refer to your manual on getting to the satellite screen to determine if it is locking on.
It is the
GPS Diagnostic view, you can turn that on in the Views Menu or select it in the SYSTEM STATUS on the first start-up screen after pushing MENU when prompted.
I will go take a look. I don't think i restored factory defaults before the software upgrade but then again it was a brand new boat and I don't think i changed anything from factory default except changing from North Up to Heading Up. It sounds like you guys don't think the unit is toast. That is a good thing. Hopefully, I can get it working.
There is no position and no new tracks. It never knows my boat left its dry storage. All I see are old tracks.
Does not make any difference with the Helix units and number series for Restore Defaults. It is built in to the update software since "some" don't follow the instructions for software updates.
Before that was added, lots had to send their units in to have the memory reflashed after an update.
The instructions still state to Restore Defaults first.
Those of us that have been doing it for a few years have found out that doing a Restore Defaults AFTER an update will correct some glitches.
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/12/17 04:23 AM
Log? Or actual fish? Asking for a friend.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/12/17 02:43 PM
Fish suspended off the bottom. You can see the white object(fish) then you can see a small space which is the lake bottom then the sonar shadow of the fish
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/13/17 12:42 AM
Fish suspended off the bottom. You can see the white object(fish) then you can see a small space which is the lake bottom then the sonar shadow of the fish
Thanks I've been looking through this forum and reading up on settings and I think I finally got it set up correctly.
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/06/17 01:03 AM
How do I manually enter a waypoint with coordinates on my SOLIX 15SI?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/06/17 12:18 PM
How do I manually enter a waypoint with coordinates on my SOLIX 15SI?
Push the "mark" button. You will then have 3 options, choose lat/long. That will take you to the screen to enter coordinates
Posted By: Wirebender
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/06/17 02:19 PM
THANK YOU! Humminbird offices are closed today for some reason.....I was on hold for over 30 minutes on HB priority. Finally called the home office number to learn that the offices were closed today....they should have included that info in the HB priority recorded message. I was #1 on hold all of that time....grrr.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/09/17 09:55 PM
How do you make the lakemaster chip show up on the Solix 15 . I cant get it to work
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/09/17 10:09 PM
If you don't have any other map cards in the unit it should recognize it automatically. Pull the card out and then turn on the unit, when the unit fully boots up insert the card and see what happens. You can also go to the chart menu and see if its one of the map card options and then you can select from there also
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/09/17 10:30 PM
So only one card at a time. i have a lakemaster from 2015 and a sd card. I see it knows the lakemaster is valid but it dont let me see maps
I put both cards in when i took them out of my 1198
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/09/17 10:41 PM
What is showing up on the map screen?
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/17 12:10 AM
black screen
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/17 12:29 AM
did you let sit for a minute to see if it would load? Are you able to view basemap?
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/17 01:00 AM
nothing i will remove them in the morning and try again with only the lakemaster card. I loaded all my way point on a sd card.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/17 07:14 PM
Is there a way I can remove all the waypoints on my Helix 7 at one time,..?? thanks JIM
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/17 07:32 PM
Two ways.
Easiest is to Format Nav Directories in the Setup menu
Other is go to the Nav menu tab, down to Waypoints, Route, Tracks, select that and then up to Options and choose Select All and... the select Delete.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/11/17 10:50 PM
Big learning curve between a 1198 and a 15 Solix
Incredible views. Now i need to find the bigger fish.
When you see fish they are there
Crappie may fear me
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 01:08 AM
Turned on my Helix 7 and I have NO sonar, traditional, SI, DI, not showing.
The screens all have the 'templates' but no feedback, they are blank.
Tried a reset factury faults, still nothing. GPS is fine.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 01:35 AM
Have ya checked the connector and that the transducer is fully connected?
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 01:44 AM
checked at the transom, solid there,..the unit is flat mounted into the console, worked great couple days ago,
is there anything in the adjustments that I could have messed up,..??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 01:53 AM
Restoring factory defaults would have corrected any setting issue. Can you hear if the transducer is pinging?
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 02:08 AM
Ill check in morning,..thks..
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/15/17 02:30 AM
Ill check in morning,..thks..
While you are checking stuff, check to see if the transducer plug is fully inserted in the transducer port or even attached at all.
Posted By: tcct
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/17 12:40 AM
OK here's one....I have 2 lowrance elite 5's..one for split screen ds/sonar and one for gps...now I want to install a hb helix 7 si gen2 for si while I run the elites for di/sonar and gps...any interference problems running these two at the same time...thx...cross posting on lowrance page...
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/19/17 12:55 AM
OK here's one....I have 2 lowrance elite 5's..one for split screen ds/sonar and one for gps...now I want to install a hb helix 7 si gen2 for si while I run the elites for di/sonar and gps...any interference problems running these two at the same time...thx...cross posting on lowrance page...
If you can operate them on different frequencies to avoid cross-talk.
The Helix uses 200 kHz all the time regardless of settings for the Depth readout. It also uses 455 kHz for Imaging.
You would have to use the Lowrance at 83 kHz 2D and 800 kHz Scan.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/17 12:31 AM
Wayne, can you tell me what transducer is used on my helix 7, I bought it 11 months ago, it has traditional, SI, DI,and GPS.
no chirp. thanks..
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/17 12:35 PM
Wayne, can you tell me what transducer is used on my helix 7, I bought it 11 months ago, it has traditional, SI, DI,and GPS.
no chirp. thanks..
Same transducer whether it is the newer CHIRP model G2 or G2N or original generation 1.
It comes with the XNT 9 SI 180 T Compact SI transducer.
It will perform better with a XHS 9 HDSI 180 T transducer since that one is 2" longer, has longer SI crystals which produce a thinner Imaging pulse and sharper images. It won't give the unit the 800 kHz capability though.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/27/17 06:02 PM
Have ya checked the connector and that the transducer is fully connected?
44 DIESEL and Wayne, thanks for the help,..after crawling upsidedown under my console I found the connector had come off, and flopped up over a wire bundle.
At my age that was a feat in itself,..again thanks.
Next question, I have a Ranger 188 Aluminum, is there a HD shoot-thru transducer for my Helix 7.
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jim
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/17 02:01 AM
only 2d, no imaging shoot thru transducer
http://www.radarsonics.com/AlumaDucer.htm
Posted By: Monkeypuncher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/17 12:33 PM
Hope I'm posting this in the correct forum. I just bought a boat with 2 helix 9 units from another part of the country. What should I do to update them to areas I fish? Can I still get updates using the hummingbird website?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/17 03:10 PM
If you are asking about maps for the unit you can get lakemaster or navionics for your area. Here in Texas its gonna be lake master mid south or navionics south. Each one has different features just have to look and see which features you want
As far as updates you can register the used units in your name on the Humminbird website. Once the units are registered the updates will show up in you account then you download them to an SD card. Then you will be able to update the units
Posted By: Monkeypuncher
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/28/17 09:57 PM
Thanks 44.
Posted By: CougarFTD
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/07/17 04:16 PM
Switching from Lowrance to Humminbird, just ordered 2 Solix from TW!! Do I️ need the SM3000 black box to network bow and console units? I️ assume I️ only need that to get engine data??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/07/17 05:22 PM
If you are only gonna network the 2 solix units and nothing else you will only need an Ethernet cable. If you add a 3rd unit or accessory such as 360 or I pilot link you would need the 5 port switch
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-ETH-5PXG/
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/07/17 09:10 PM
Switching from Lowrance to Humminbird, just ordered 2 Solix from TW!! Do I️ need the SM3000 black box to network bow and console units? I️ assume I️ only need that to get engine data??
The SM3000 is to add sensors/transducers to the ION display (modular system) and to add CHIRP sonar to the ONIX.
Not needed with the SOLIX or with an updated ONIX.
Engine data is a direct connection to the 0183 NMEA port, no black box needed.
Posted By: CougarFTD
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/07/17 10:52 PM
Thanks for the replies!
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/08/17 04:40 PM
Can anyone tell me how to upload my way points to my Solix 15 . I have tried several timers without any luck. I can put them on my 1198 and 998 but not the Solix. I have them loaded on a SD card.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/08/17 05:00 PM
the solix has a different format than the core units..try this
https://www.humminbird.com/Category/Support/FAQ/Convert2GPX/
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/14/17 11:03 PM
New Humminbird SOLIX 10 announced. Due out in January. Same features as the SOLIX 12 and SOLIX 15.
Posted By: 89javelin100
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/17/17 04:15 PM
Wayne P can't you connect to internet on the Solix 15???? I could've sworn I saw Gerald Swindle on the internet watching weigh in at one of the elite events while he was in his boat in line for weigh in... My buddy has a Solix 15 and we got it paired with phone but not sure how to or if we can get internet...?
Not 100% sure but I have accidentally turned off the "sonar" aspect of my unit and it was blank or wouldn't even go to those screens (I don't remember). Act like you are going to turn your unit off and a few things will pop up. One of them will say "sonar" and make sure its "on". May very well not be your problem though but something similar happened to me and that was the fix.
Does anybody know if I can make my Helix 12 CHIRP,SI,DI,GPS sonar have a different color lake bottom on 2D sonar like lowerance does?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 11/17/17 09:07 PM
Does anybody know if I can make my Helix 12 CHIRP,SI,DI,GPS sonar have a different color lake bottom on 2D sonar like lowerance does?
You can only use the available color pallets.
I was hoping there was some feature I hadn't discovered. Sad that Humminbird didn't add that practical and obvious feature.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 11/18/17 12:11 PM
I was hoping there was some feature I hadn't discovered. Sad that Humminbird didn't add that practical and obvious feature.
What color choices does Lowrance have for the charts?
Do you have Lakemaster mapping?
Have you used Auto Chart Live?
Are there any pro staff guys on here for Humminbird that can pass along a discount?
I have never owed a Lowerance sonar but have seen the HDS 12 gen 3 unit a few times on a guide's boat (Bob Maindelle of Holdingthelineguideservice)and was super impressed with the performance and clarity of the white bass hugging the bottom, both on traditional sonar and DI. On my Helix it is super easy to OVER LOOK the white bass hugging the bottom when they are not stacked up but rather one fish tall and a little spread out. It would be helpful if Humminbird would make a feature where the bottom displayed as brown like lowerance does to more easily distinguish bottom hugging fish. I kinda regret buying my Helix 12 now after comparison to be honest especially when the price is about the same.
I do not own the lakemaster chip and use the Navionics app on my phone and have been very content with that set up....rather not use sonar screen space to display mapping that my phone or ipad can display, just my preference. I prop my phone up below my sonar.
Autochart live is very cool! That is one reason too I have not bought a lakemaster chip because the few humps and points I want to map I have already autocharted and look at every once in a while.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 11/18/17 05:00 PM
I was planning on playing with the sonar more this week after reviewing some recent screen shots. Thanks for the tip because it may very well not be on white line which would likely be of benefit for me targeting the white bass! Been a while since I dug through the manual or played with a few of those settings so I appreciate the tip!
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/18/17 09:05 PM
One thing I do while looking for stipers and especially sand bass like you are describing is while looking at the di screen is to set the upper water depth. If I am in 30 fow I will manually set the upper depth to about 15. Doing this will eliminate the top 15 feet of the water column on the screen . so your unit will be focusing on 15 fow to the bottom and will make fish hugging the bottom easier to see. I also sometimes use the bottom lock on the 2d.
That is excellent advice! I will play with that next time I'm out
I switched over to the white line feature and definitely A huge improvement! I started utilizing the zoom screen more as well but playing with the upper range option as well. Thanks for the tip!
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/24/17 02:24 AM
I switched over to the white line feature and definitely A huge improvement! I started utilizing the zoom screen more as well but playing with the upper range option as well. Thanks for the tip!
Posted By: clay65
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/01/17 03:57 AM
Help i am totally lost,i have some coordinates i am trying to add to my helix 9 gen2 si but when i enter lat,and longitude my waypoint is about 40 miles north west of my lake also entered into my 859 di and it is the same,tried the conversion thing which i totally dont get,i am about to pull my 1 hair out lol!
I made a short video talking about and showing comparison examples of Humminbird's bottom view options: structure ID vs whiteline. I appreciate 44 Diesel for telling me about the WhiteLine feature! It sure has helped me out and makes viewing the fish more easy.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/13/17 06:16 PM
I made a short video talking about and showing comparison examples of Humminbird's bottom view options: structure ID vs whiteline. I appreciate 44 Diesel for telling me about the WhiteLine feature! It sure has helped me out and makes viewing the fish more easy.
Good video, glad to see its working for ya
Posted By: dwmoore
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/19/17 08:39 PM
Hey 44 I bought your hb units just changed mine over to the white line will see if it helps.Thanks for tip.Darrell
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/17 11:25 PM
Hey 44 I bought your hb units just changed mine over to the white line will see if it helps.Thanks for tip.Darrell
Hey Mr. DW its good to hear from ya. Hope you getting a lot use outta the units. Let us know if that white line feature has any benefit in finding them crappie
Posted By: mard928
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/24/17 02:47 PM
I have tried searching through this forums and others wondering if this topic had been covered. When running my Helix 10 SI Gen 2 Mega I am having trouble loosing my DI image when SI and DI are not set on the same frequency. I have dug through the settings and can not find anything out of order. I was out on the lake last week and tried several different combinations. No matter what frequency I have my SI on if my DI does not match I loose my signal on DI. I have adjusted DI sharpness and contrast with little help. I have also reset the unit to its default settings thinking I may have unknowingly change a setting. This may be something I will have to live with but I am hoping that there is a trick to get me back to be able to run DI and Si on different frequencies. Thanks for the help!
Posted By: wild bill
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/26/17 01:28 AM
My Wife is the best She got me a Helix 7 I want to mount transducer to trolling motor Is there a bracket with what comes in box or do I order a different transducer.
wild bill
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/26/17 01:49 AM
Which helix 7? Don't open the transducer or hardware. Depending on which unit you will most likely want to cantact Humminbird and trade in for a trolling motor transducer or for the hdsi tranaducer
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/15/18 09:12 AM
New SOLIX software update 3.110 1/13/2018 released yesterday.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/18/18 01:17 PM
New Helix software update 1.610 1/14/2018 available
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/19/18 06:54 PM
I am in the process of purchasing a Helix 9 mega chirp DI G2N and a Helix 7 chirp DI G2N for the bow. I think these two units can be linked but I'm unsure of what cable or cables to also order. Thanks in advance....
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/19/18 07:19 PM
Yes you will be able to network the units together. The helix 7 g2n will also be able to receive mega images from the Helix 9 mega
2 of these
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-EC-QDE/1 of these. This is the 30 footer. They come on shorter lengths
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-EC-30E/
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/19/18 08:54 PM
Thanks 44, don't I need some type of "Y" connector?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/19/18 09:28 PM
Depends on if you are gonna use a separate transducer for 2d readings then yes but Humminbird does not recommend using the "y" cable with DI units. For the bow unit you will want to contact Humminbird c/s and swap out transducers for the trolling motor version if you want to mount a transducer to it. Just be sure to not open the transducer or the hardware bag it comes in
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/20/18 01:53 AM
Thanks again..........I'm jumping ship from using Lowrance for years
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/20/18 04:57 PM
Has anyone used the new HB lake map chip and if so, how do they compare with others??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/20/18 07:58 PM
Which map chip?
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/20/18 08:53 PM
smart strike
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/20/18 09:01 PM
The smartstrike has the same mapping detail and features as the other map cards. It does not however have the satellite overlay like the lake master plus. It is good for fishing new lakes. But the lake detail is the same as the other lakemaster map cards but it only has the HD lakes on it. Lakemaster has not done much mapping here in Texas. Their Texas lakes are mapped by a third party. I use both navionics and lakemaster due to the fact that navionics has better detail on some lakes than lakemaster and lakemaster has better on other lakes.
Posted By: Corey Stanley
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/22/18 02:34 PM
The smartstrike has the same mapping detail and features as the other map cards. It does not however have the satellite overlay like the lake master plus. It is good for fishing new lakes. But the lake detail is the same as the other lakemaster map cards but it only has the HD lakes on it. Lakemaster has not done much mapping here in Texas. Their Texas lakes are mapped by a third party. I use both navionics and lakemaster due to the fact that navionics has better detail on some lakes than lakemaster and lakemaster has better on other lakes.
^^This^^
Both are great tools, which is why it is important to check out the available mapping for the lakes you fish most and see which one offers the most detail and accuracy. Both have pros and cons and one may outshine the other on a certain lake or areas. My advice would be to look at the Navionics webapp and see the latest and greatest from them for free before making a purchase, as well as doing the same with LakeMaster.
https://webapp.navionics.com/#boating
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/18 05:11 PM
Can an XM-9-MDI-T transducer be epoxied on the inside of the hull?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/18 06:37 PM
Can an XM-9-MDI-T transducer be epoxied on the inside of the hull?
A Humminbird DI transducer used to be shoot-thru compatible several years ago, but that is no longer recommended. The high frequencies don't shoot-thru very well and that is before the MEGA frequency.
Posted By: Hogdaddy
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/24/18 07:06 PM
Thanks Wayne, could I use one of the Transducer shields and mount to an 8" Slidemaster or would that not work on plane?
Posted By: Ricktofish
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/18 08:31 PM
I have a Helix 9 G1 on the console. I want to upgrade my bow to hummingbird with DI and GPS. Networking nice but not have to, what unit would be best value best performance? Thanks for opinions.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/18 10:12 PM
Thanks Wayne, could I use one of the Transducer shields and mount to an 8" Slidemaster or would that not work on plane?
Unless you have a very long jackplate that reaches close to the bottom of the hull, the transducer won't have water contact when on plane.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/26/18 10:18 PM
I have a Helix 9 G1 on the console. I want to upgrade my bow to hummingbird with DI and GPS. Networking nice but not have to, what unit would be best value best performance? Thanks for opinions.
You can link a Helix 7 CHIRP DI GPS G2N, any of the three versions of Helix 9 DI, Helix 10 DI, or Helix 12 DI models.
Just cannot share CHIRP or MEGA frequency to the G1.
They all perform the same, just display sizes are different and display pixel densities are different.
You would want to exchange the included transom DI transducer for a trolling motor PUCK version.
Posted By: Gray_Ghost9
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/18 09:51 PM
Need some help
I bought a Hummingbird 596c HD and can never get clear images in DI as a matter of fact never even see tree images like in demo mode.
I have gone by bridge columns and they look like thin lines large trees look the same. I have reset to factory settings and still cannot get it to show images as I would expect. Does anyone else use one and mind sharing the settings you use or any suggestions on what settings may work.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/11/18 10:06 PM
Imaging is a very thin sonar pulse front to back. The unit will only record images of stuff when the sonar pulse is passing across it-think CAT SCAN.
If you want to make stuff record larger, just increase the Chart Speed. At a minimum it should be set close to the GPS speed.
Posted By: jscroggins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/14/18 02:25 PM
Just wondering what the differences are in the helix 10 di gen 1 and the helix 10 di mega?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/14/18 02:37 PM
The Helix 10 Di mega has the mega frequency for mega imaging and chirps all frequencies. The Helix Gen 1 does not have the mega frequencies nor chirp capabilities
Posted By: Wes H
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/18/18 12:28 AM
Hello all,
Looking for some tips on what I screwed up!
I have 2 Lakemaster ChartSelect lakes, and before whenever I went to one it would auto select the one I was on and display it.
Now when I go to one it auto selects the base map, and even if I force it to use the right card, it will not show the chartselect contours. However, if I go to base layers I can pick the lake I am on and it works.
It is not too big of a deal since I know a work around, but I know I messed up a setting somewhere to make it work correctly and its bugging me lol
Thanks.
Posted By: Clint W.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/26/18 03:00 AM
Just installed a Solix 12 (Had a 1198si) in my console. My 998 on my bow utilized the gps puck on the 1198 (via ethernet cable) for gps signal. I assumed it would be the same with the Solix, but I cannot get a gps signal on the 998 now. Wondering if any gurus out there could provide some information. The Solix works GREAT, difference is night and day.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/26/18 05:27 AM
The solix and the 998 will not share GPS through network. The 998 will need its own GPS receiver.
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/27/18 12:39 AM
Have a helix 9 mega DI going on an ultrex. Have not installed the mega yet
If I use the transducer adapter for the one the unit came with, do I expect to get interference when the ultrex runs. I have used it in the past, but this is the first mega unit I have had.
Is it worth it to do the exchange or just use the adapter on the trolling motor and run the transom transducer.
or buy the trolling motor DI transducer to have both
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/27/18 01:09 AM
Have a helix 9 mega DI going on an ultrex. Have not installed the mega yet
If I use the transducer adapter for the one the unit came with, do I expect to get interference when the ultrex runs. I have used it in the past, but this is the first mega unit I have had.
Is it worth it to do the exchange or just use the adapter on the trolling motor and run the transom transducer.
or buy the trolling motor DI transducer to have both
RFI is hard to predict. Just have to install and go from there. I would recommend using the trolling motor transducer as it has more rfi protection. Humminbird has come out with a new dual spectrum 2d/DI chirp transducer that is only compatible with mega units. It is a true 2d chirp transducer with the mega di element as well. It will chirp the higher frequency 140-240. This transducer is low Q which means it is more suitable for chirp units. Must have the latest update on the unit to be compatible with the new transducer. I would contact hummingbird about trading in for this transducer.
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/XTM-9-MDI-T/
Posted By: nitroslim
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/27/18 06:51 PM
Have a helix 9 mega DI going on an ultrex. Have not installed the mega yet
If I use the transducer adapter for the one the unit came with, do I expect to get interference when the ultrex runs. I have used it in the past, but this is the first mega unit I have had.
Is it worth it to do the exchange or just use the adapter on the trolling motor and run the transom transducer.
or buy the trolling motor DI transducer to have both
RFI is hard to predict. Just have to install and go from there. I would recommend using the trolling motor transducer as it has more rfi protection. Humminbird has come out with a new dual spectrum 2d/DI chirp transducer that is only compatible with mega units. It is a true 2d chirp transducer with the mega di element as well. It will chirp the higher frequency 140-240. This transducer is low Q which means it is more suitable for chirp units. Must have the latest update on the unit to be compatible with the new transducer. I would contact hummingbird about trading in for this transducer.
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/XTM-9-MDI-T/Thanks mailed it off today for the swap.
Posted By: Schins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/18 11:16 AM
Greetings
So I picked up a used Onix 10 SI and was wondering if I should update to the latest software? It has 2.3 now.
Thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/18 12:33 PM
Greetings
So I picked up a used Onix 10 SI and was wondering if I should update to the latest software? It has 2.3 now.
Thanks
Haven't had any issues yet with mine. The fish id has some issues with depth reading being reversed. 18 fow it will read 81, but I don't use fish id so no problem. Having more customization of the data readouts is nice
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/02/18 01:13 PM
Greetings
So I picked up a used Onix 10 SI and was wondering if I should update to the latest software? It has 2.3 now.
Thanks
Haven't had any issues yet with mine. The fish id has some issues with depth reading being reversed. 18 fow it will read 81, but I don't use fish id so no problem. Having more customization of the data readouts is nice
There is a glitch with Chart Select Layers also with the new software.
I use FishID and there are no 83 kHz FishID symbols as well as the reversed depth indications.
Those will be fixed with the next update.
Carefully read the update description since you will have to do two updates to have current software installed.
Posted By: Schins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/03/18 04:21 AM
Thank you
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/18 04:50 PM
Hey Wayne and Diesel, I currently have a Helix 10 DI (first generation) and I am thinking of adding an SI unit with SI transducer. Can I buy and install a 7 SI and link them and, thus be able to display SI on my DI unit?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/18 05:24 PM
Hey Wayne and Diesel, I currently have a Helix 10 DI (first generation) and I am thinking of adding an SI unit with SI transducer. Can I buy and install a 7 SI and link them and, thus be able to display SI on my DI unit?
Yes, if the H7 is a G2N. The first generation and G2 models are not linkable.
You will have to not use CHIRP since a first generation unit will not display CHIRP.
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/12/18 05:59 PM
10-4, Wayne. Thanks for the info!
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/21/18 11:39 PM
Hey Wayne and Diesel, I have just purchased a used 2014 Legend 191. It currently has a lowrance at the console, but I am going to get an Ultrex in the near future. I had an 898 on the boat I just sold. A couple of questions: 1) do all the "birds" link up to the Ultrex or just the higher end ones? 2) difference between the Helix 9 and 10? Looks like they are the same size as far as the actual unit. Out of curiosity, why do they not fill up the entire face (with a small margin all the way around) rather than having such large margins? I would like to get the best unit I can for close to $1000. Thanks for your help. This entire post is very educational. Thank you!
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/22/18 02:37 AM
Any unit that is Ethernet capable will network with the ultrex with I pilot link. Any 9,10,12 helix Or solix/onix. The older numbered core units will also such as the xx9 but the core units that end with xx8 did not get the latest link updates. The smallest screen that is Ethernet capable would be the helix 7 g2n(any 7 g2n model).
The difference between the Helix 9 and 10 would be the 1" screen size and screen resolution. They are the same physical size.
Posted By: PaulGrapevine
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/25/18 01:40 AM
Looking for some input guys. I have several questions. Any input is much appreciated! I am getting close to ordering a new boat. I’m thinking about getting it without a trolling motor or any graphs. I can rig everything myself. The end result I want is an ultrex with the link on it. I want a helix 9 or 10 at the console and a helix 7 on the bow. Here are my questions.
1. Is the side image worth the extra money? I mainly fish for stripers, hybrids, and sand bass. I occasionally fish for crappie and catfish. Never really bass fish.
2. I will get the helix 7 as a g2n. Can I hook both fish finders and the trolling motor together without needing a hub?
3. I may start with the helix 7 at the console and move it up front when I buy a bigger helix. Will the DI transducer work with a SI unit? I’d install the SI transducer on the transom as well. Thinking about leaving the DI transducer back there as a spare.
4. Is the built in transducer on an Ultrex ok with a helix 7? I get that it will function. Asking more if I’d be better off but an external transducer to mount the on the trolling motor. This would be a DI unit, not SI.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/25/18 03:07 AM
1. I mainly fish for stripers as well. I do like having side imaging and it does come in handy when chasing schools of stripers/hybrids/sand bass on flats in the open water, but for me good maps are the most important.
2.You will need the Ethernet switch in order for both units to network with I pilot link. When connecting 2 or more Ethernet accessories or units you will need the Ethernet switch. You will really like the I pilot link. I use the link capabilities constantly
3. The di transducer will work on the si unit but not really recommended. The unit will be trying to process the empty si circuit and may cause damage to the si circuit. Humminbird has FAQ that shows how to set it up but I think long term use would damage the unit. I have all my transducers mounted on the transom and everything works fine.
4. The us2 transducer is just fine if you only want 2d for the helix 7. If you go with the di unit you will want the trolling motor puck.
Posted By: PaulGrapevine
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/25/18 01:03 PM
Thank you Diesel!
Posted By: TroyKing
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/18 03:03 PM
Could someone point me to the right trolling motor transducer set up for designated 2d and Di...I have a helix 7 chirp Si G2...thanks.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/18 04:59 PM
Could someone point me to the right trolling motor transducer set up for designated 2d and Di...I have a helix 7 chirp Si G2...thanks.
That unit does not have Down Imaging. It has simulated (composite) Down Imaging views created by blending the two SI pulses.
You have two choices for a trolling motor application:
XTM 9 SI 180 T is the trolling motor
puck version of the included transom Compact SI transducer---has extra internal shielding. No mount needed, comes with stainless steel hose clamps.
If you want sharper images than what the Compact SI transducer can produce, you can use the
XTM 9 HDSI 180 T that is 2" longer, has longer SI crystals that produce a thinner Imaging pulse. Both the transom and trolling motor version of the HDSI transducers have the extra internal shielding.
Posted By: TroyKing
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/18 05:57 PM
Oh boy!...I knew from reading on here that it converted the Si in to Di....but I thought I could buy a Di ducer and then have Tru Di....so you are saying I can't?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/18 06:06 PM
Oh boy!...I knew from reading on here that it converted the Si in to Di....but I thought I could buy a Di ducer and then have Tru Di....so you are saying I can't?
You can but it might be risky. I wouldn't suggest it with a unit out of warranty. 2d reading may also be weaker. I killed a 998 several years ago by not turning off sonar while I did not have a transducer connected to the unit. It was trying to process the empty circuits and killed the si/di. It would still network with another unit but when I plugged a transducer into it it would only produce 2d. The si/di was dead. I think long term use of a di transducer plugged into a si unit may do the same. The link below describes how to do it so if something happens you could always use this in your defense
https://www.humminbird.com/Category/Support/FAQ/DIxducerSIunit/
Posted By: cartx2
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/29/18 05:25 PM
Looking for a little help.
I was on the lake the other day and all was well until my main graph at the console lost depth and contour readings on sonar, DI, and SI. I checked the transducer while on the lake and it looked fine. The temp and speed settings were working fine. Front graph was working fine, but it was using the transducer in the TM.
Once off the lake, I did a bit of research, checked cables, connections, batteries, and settings that I thought might have been accidentally changed. Everything looks fine. I have been hesitant to pull the cord on a factory reset, but perhaps that is what I need to do.(I don't want to lose all the good work Slade did on my settings...I do have a copy of what he did, but you know how the reboot restore thing goes sometimes).
Any suggestions on other things I can check? How likely is it the transducer went bad? Any help appreciated.
My setup is: 899CI HD on the bow, ONIX 8CI SI on the console, Ulterra gen 1 TM with iPilot link.
I'm a bit new to all this and this is my first post...so if I'm in the wrong place, just tell me where to go. :-)
Thanks in advance for any help.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/29/18 08:04 PM
Is the onix using a Y cable to separate the 2d and si transducer?
Posted By: DBFishing83
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/30/18 03:30 PM
....I am looking at buying my first HB unit ....
Solix or Helix ?
what are the differences ?
I fished with a guide that had a HB unit with the 3 preset buttons and really liked the way they worked.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/30/18 04:03 PM
....I am looking at buying my first HB unit ....
Solix or Helix ?
what are the differences ?
I fished with a guide that had a HB unit with the 3 preset buttons and really liked the way they worked.
Helix has the preset buttons. The helix are a little more user friendly but no touchscreen and can't customize near as much as the solix. Solix will share maps and heading sensor without having to share the GPS info. You can create your own views with the solix whereas the helix what comes with the unit is what you get. You can adjust the pane size with multiple view screen withbthe hlix but not with the solix. The solix will have a larger amp draw also. Solix will also let you scroll back sonar/di/si history.
Doug V made a series of videos that may help you decide also
https://youtu.be/lAQQfRm4s9I
Hi Guys,
A couple of questions please..
1. If I put a Helix 7 DI G2N on the trolling motor which is the transducer to swap out with HB for the best DI performance.
2. Additionally if I put I HELIX 10 MEGA SI G2N and network it to the 7, what, if any, views would the 7 be able to see from the 10?
Thanks in Advance !
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/30/18 08:37 PM
Hi Guys,
A couple of questions please..
1. If I put a Helix 7 DI G2N on the trolling motor which is the transducer to swap out with HB for the best DI performance.
2. Additionally if I put I HELIX 10 MEGA SI G2N and network it to the 7, what, if any, views would the 7 be able to see from the 10?
Thanks in Advance !
You didn't post the entire model names:
Helix 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2N
Helix 10 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N
Those will cross-share all sonar functions, GPS data, but not mapping or heading sensor separate from GPS.
The MEGA SI units have a dedicated Down Imaging crystal in the transducer so there is no need to share the DI from the Helix 7.
The proper DI transducer for trolling motor attachment is a PUCK style. Those have extra internal shielding that the transom transducer does not have.
DI would not be any better or worse using one.
The
XTM 9 DI 25 T uses the same frequencies for 2D sonar as the transom transducer:
200/455 kHz with spec coverage of 28/16 degrees.
The
XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T uses the 2D frequencies of 83/200 kHz with spec coverage of
60/20 degrees.
Choose the coverage you want.
Posted By: cartx2
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/18 12:01 AM
I don’t think so. I believe I only have the single transducer at the back of the boat. Will double check. Had everything installed when I bought the boat a few years ago and don’t remember any discussin about any cable, but like I said...pretty new to this.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/31/18 12:22 AM
I don’t think so. I believe I only have the single transducer at the back of the boat. Will double check. Had everything installed when I bought the boat a few years ago and don’t remember any discussin about any cable, but like I said...pretty new to this.
the connector that screws into the transducer port on the back of the unit, if it has 2 wires coming out of the plug then you have a y cable if only one wire coming out then no y cable
Posted By: cartx2
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/01/18 04:35 PM
I don’t think so. I believe I only have the single transducer at the back of the boat. Will double check. Had everything installed when I bought the boat a few years ago and don’t remember any discussin about any cable, but like I said...pretty new to this.
the connector that screws into the transducer port on the back of the unit, if it has 2 wires coming out of the plug then you have a y cable if only one wire coming out then no y cable
I don’t see anything that looks like the Y cables I see online. There are 3 cables coming out of the back of the Onix unit. There is a box that looks like a hub as well. Trying to upload a pic to see if it will help.
Any suggestions appreciated.
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Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/01/18 04:47 PM
That's your Ethernet switch. Make sure sonar pinging is not turned off, usually a box will show up if pinging is turned off though. Then you may have to try the factory defaults unless you know someone who has an onix transducer you can hook to the unit to test first.
Posted By: D Forney
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/04/18 01:00 AM
What is wrong with the transducer that comes with a helix 7 mega DI gn2 on the bottom of the ultrex with a transducer shield?
Sorry if this has been asked before.
I have the helix 9 mega SI gn2 at the console and a helix 7 mega DI g2n on the trolling motor, ultrex I pilot link, and all networked.
Thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/04/18 01:23 AM
What is wrong with the transducer that comes with a helix 7 mega DI gn2 on the bottom of the ultrex with a transducer shield?
Sorry if this has been asked before.
I have the helix 9 mega SI gn2 at the console and a helix 7 mega DI g2n on the trolling motor, ultrex I pilot link, and all networked.
Thanks
There is not a Helix 7 mega. But the transducer that comes with Helix 7 di g2n does not have the extra shielding that the one for the trolling does to protect or reduce the possibility of having RFI
Posted By: cartx2
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/04/18 02:12 AM
That's your Ethernet switch. Make sure sonar pinging is not turned off, usually a box will show up if pinging is turned off though. Then you may have to try the factory defaults unless you know someone who has an onix transducer you can hook to the unit to test first.
Thank you for the help. The only thing else I found was in the network settings under depth 1 it shows the 2D transducer (lost) even though in the network info screen it shows to be connected. If that sparks any other thoughts, please send them my way. Otherwise I will give hummingbird/Johnson a call to see if they have any suggestions and then try the reset.
Thanks again.
Hi Guys,
A couple of questions please..
1. If I put a Helix 7 DI G2N on the trolling motor which is the transducer to swap out with HB for the best DI performance.
2. Additionally if I put I HELIX 10 MEGA SI G2N and network it to the 7, what, if any, views would the 7 be able to see from the 10?
Thanks in Advance !
You didn't post the entire model names:
Helix 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2N
Helix 10 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N
Those will cross-share all sonar functions, GPS data, but not mapping or heading sensor separate from GPS.
The MEGA SI units have a dedicated Down Imaging crystal in the transducer so there is no need to share the DI from the Helix 7.
The proper DI transducer for trolling motor attachment is a PUCK style. Those have extra internal shielding that the transom transducer does not have.
DI would not be any better or worse using one.
The
XTM 9 DI 25 T uses the same frequencies for 2D sonar as the transom transducer:
200/455 kHz with spec coverage of 28/16 degrees.
The
XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T uses the 2D frequencies of 83/200 kHz with spec coverage of
60/20 degrees.
Choose the coverage you want.
So is the difference purely the size of the cone?
I got my Helix 7 Chirp DI G2 today and have to decide which of the two ducers you listed I want to swap HB for.
Posted By: Clay34
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/18 12:06 PM
I own a HELIX 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2 unit. I hope that this is a simple question. The unit has 1 SD card slot, not two. I bought the standard LakeMaster chip. It says that the slot can also be used to to "save screenshots, sonar recordings and waypoints or to update your units software" quote from the Helix 7 website.
How does this work? Do you upload the info from the LakeMaster chip and then put in a blank SD chip to do the recordings? Do the waypoints etc. get saved onto the Lakemaster chip? I can definately see a benefit in the Helix 9 and above units with two slots.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/18 12:58 PM
Just install the lakemaster card into the unit.The lake master card is for maps only. Nothing is saved to the card. Use a blank SD card for updates and screen captures. For updates you need to register your unit at Humminbird.com. once registered you open your account and follow the instructions to download update to the SD card. Then insert card into the unit for update.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/10/18 01:42 PM
I own a HELIX 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2 unit. I hope that this is a simple question. The unit has 1 SD card slot, not two. I bought the standard LakeMaster chip. It says that the slot can also be used to to "save screenshots, sonar recordings and waypoints or to update your units software" quote from the Helix 7 website.
How does this work? Do you upload the info from the LakeMaster chip and then put in a blank SD chip to do the recordings? Do the waypoints etc. get saved onto the Lakemaster chip? I can definately see a benefit in the Helix 9 and above units with two slots.
The maps are not loaded to the unit's memory, they are read directly from the map card. If you remove the map card, your maps will disappear.
Waypoints are written directly to the unit's memory in the Waypoint Library. The only way to get them on any memory card is to purposely Export them.
Posted By: Clay34
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/13/18 10:01 PM
Is there some kind of chart or something that I can look up release dates on Humminbird models? There are so many different Helix 9s as an example, I was wonder when each of them actually hit the market. Specifically I'm look for when this product came to market: HELIX 9 SI GPS 409950-1.
I find the following Helix 9 units on the Humminbird web site:
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410090-1 at $1299.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA DI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410500-1 at $999.99
HELIX 9 SI GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409950-1 at $999.99
HELIX 9 SI GPS KVD | HELIX 9 Series | 409950-1KVD at $999.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP DI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410080-1 at $899.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410070-1 at $799.99
HELIX 9 DI GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409930-1 at $799.99
HELIX 9 SONAR GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409920-1 at $699.99
I know the Mega is the newest but noticed that the HELIX 9 SI GPS 409950-1 doesn't say G2 or G2N. Looking at saving a couple of bucks over the Mega while still getting the 800 Khz HD transducer options (when you buy the optional transducer), 9" screen with TWO SD card slots, some preset buttons and something that will connect with an I-pilot later.
Just a thought since I haven't opened my Helix 7 Si G2 yet.
Anyone know of any links to compare Humminbird units side by side? I wish that I could pull up two or three different units and see what the differences are between the units without flipping back and forth and making notes.
Thanks for all of the help in advance.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/14/18 02:16 AM
Is there some kind of chart or something that I can look up release dates on Humminbird models? There are so many different Helix 9s as an example, I was wonder when each of them actually hit the market. Specifically I'm look for when this product came to market: HELIX 9 SI GPS 409950-1.
I find the following Helix 9 units on the Humminbird web site:
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410090-1 at $1299.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA DI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410500-1 at $999.99
HELIX 9 SI GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409950-1 at $999.99
HELIX 9 SI GPS KVD | HELIX 9 Series | 409950-1KVD at $999.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP DI GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410080-1 at $899.99
HELIX 9 CHIRP GPS G2N | HELIX 9 Series | 410070-1 at $799.99
HELIX 9 DI GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409930-1 at $799.99
HELIX 9 SONAR GPS | HELIX 9 Series | 409920-1 at $699.99
I know the Mega is the newest but noticed that the HELIX 9 SI GPS 409950-1 doesn't say G2 or G2N. Looking at saving a couple of bucks over the Mega while still getting the 800 Khz HD transducer options (when you buy the optional transducer), 9" screen with TWO SD card slots, some preset buttons and something that will connect with an I-pilot later.
Just a thought since I haven't opened my Helix 7 Si G2 yet.
Anyone know of any links to compare Humminbird units side by side? I wish that I could pull up two or three different units and see what the differences are between the units without flipping back and forth and making notes.
Thanks for all of the help in advance.
The helix 9 si gps you are referring to is the Gen 1 Helix. each new release is usually in production for about 2 years then a newer model is released.
ars before the release of the solixnot aware of any side by side comparison websites for the units. The units that are on the web site are the current and newest models. here is a link of all the discontinued models which hummingbird labels them as Legacy. All these units in the link are legacy and no longer in production
https://www.humminbird.com/Freshwater/Product-Category/Legacy/All-Legacy/?ps=all
Posted By: Schins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/18 02:41 AM
398 si......can it utilize the HD transducer?
I have one on mine now, but it only shows the compact listed.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/16/18 08:31 PM
398 si......can it utilize the HD transducer?
I have one on mine now, but it only shows the compact listed.
Every SI model that has the standard Compact SI transducer, like the 398 does, will produce sharper images using the HDSI transducer. That is because the HDSI is 2" longer and has longer Imaging crystals.
In no case does it add 800 kHz to any unit that does not have it. The 398 does not so it does not have any other SI setting but Compact Sidescan.
Posted By: Schins
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/17/18 12:06 AM
thanks again, Wayne
Posted By: DBFishing83
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/23/18 08:56 PM
does the MK US2 internal transducer support the function of DI on a Hummingbird unit ?
Posted By: DBFishing83
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/23/18 08:57 PM
what Hummingbird unit do I need just to get GPS mapping and 2D sonar
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/23/18 09:21 PM
does the MK US2 internal transducer support the function of DI on a Hummingbird unit ?
No trolling motor internal transducer (MotorGuide or Minnkota) does any imaging of any kind for any sonar brand. They are 83/200 kHz 2D transducers ONLY.
Posted By: SaltyFishin'
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/18 02:59 PM
I'm having an issue where my maps are not following my boat while driving. (does in using navionics as well as lakemaster) I constantly have to hit the boat icon to bring my boat to the center of the screen. This is on a Solix 12 SI unit. I have it set to head up, but still not working. I'm at a loss, any ideas?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/01/18 03:13 PM
I'm having an issue where my maps are not following my boat while driving. (does in using navionics as well as lakemaster) I constantly have to hit the boat icon to bring my boat to the center of the screen. This is on a Solix 12 SI unit. I have it set to head up, but still not working. I'm at a loss, any ideas?
Sounds like your cursor may be active causing the screen to freeze. IG so just hit the x button to deactivate the cursor
Posted By: SaltyFishin'
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/03/18 05:40 PM
I'll have to make sure to try that. My unit seems to go really slow sometimes... I constantly hit that x button to make sure I'm not selected on something but I'll double check the next time I'm out. Any other thoughts on what could cause my unit to run slow? The last time my voltage meter got down to about 11.4-11.5 at times as well. Brand new battery so I don't know why it got so low other than it was near the end of the day running two units.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/03/18 08:31 PM
Insuffucient power will cause GPS issues also. What gauge wire and where is it connected to. Solix units are real power sensitive. For best performance I would run 10 gauge wire directly to the battery with a fuse or a dedicated fuse panel powered by nothing smaller than 8 gauge wire. Do not wire to existing boat fuse panel or wiring harness. They are not usually wired with big enough wire to power sensitive electronics properly
Posted By: DREAMIN TEAM
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/18 12:23 PM
Greetings, Installing MK I Pilot and need adapter to match Hummingbird for I pilot connection . Anybody know the adapter ? Hummingbird doesn't seem to know the difference between I pilot and universal sonar . Thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/18 03:10 PM
Greetings, Installing MK I Pilot and need adapter to match Hummingbird for I pilot connection . Anybody know the adapter ? Hummingbird doesn't seem to know the difference between I pilot and universal sonar . Thanks
I pilot link system. This is the Ethernet adapter cable. It plugs into the back of the unit.
https://www.humminbird.com/Products/AS-EC-QDE/
Posted By: DREAMIN TEAM
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/06/18 10:38 PM
Thanks Diesel. Hope this will take care of issue .
Posted By: tmkbdd
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/23/18 04:00 AM
Howdy, I replaced my Fortrex with a Ultrex and now the bottom image on my 1198c SI on the console has intermittent bottom image. I can turn the unit off and back on and the image returns but will go away again. I have another 1198c SI on the bow that is linked to the console unit. The bow unit is also connected to the transducer that is built into the trolling motor( the same way as the Fortrex). Can changing my trolling motor have anything to do with the problem?
Posted By: Greg W
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/25/18 03:42 PM
Question. I am putting a new Helix 7 G2N DI at my trolling motor replacing an old B/W Lowrance. Currently I have a Helix 998 SI (non HD) at the center console that I like pretty well. I'd like to keep SI at the console. I could probably sell the 998 for $400-500. I'll probably have Shutup and Fish install the new Helix 7 at the trolling motor and ethernet link to the console. So question is why I have the boat out anyway:
1) Do I just keep the 998
2) Why I have the boat at Shutup, upgrade to either
a) Helix 9 SI gen 1 - $770 (Is this really better than what I have besides the HD screen)
b) Helix 9 SI Mega G2N - $1299 (with install would cost me about 1K. Is it worth it?)
The mega is pretty pricy. I do have money, but am pretty frugal. I've been fishing for about 3 years so still learning and go about 2x a week. My kids are all grown now so I finally have time for me.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/25/18 10:38 PM
1. Yes, use it for mapping when you get another Helix for the console.
2. a-it is less "HD" display than the 998, just the Helix has a brighter display and comes with a Compact SI transducer=smaller than the 998 HDSI transducer=less HD image quality.
b-it has the top of the line SI transducer and 1200 kHz capability=sharper images
Posted By: RoosterHead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/18 12:42 PM
wayne p. or deisel doctor
freind of mine installed helix 10 gen1 on his boat , has si di transducer mounted outside, 2d transducer
mounted inside boat , y cable installed . what settings and where do you set it up. And do you manually have to change settings when you plane boat out.
thanks in advance
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/18 05:05 PM
wayne p. or deisel doctor
freind of mine installed helix 10 gen1 on his boat , has si di transducer mounted outside, 2d transducer
mounted inside boat , y cable installed . what settings and where do you set it up. And do you manually have to change settings when you plane boat out.
thanks in advance
Set it up as you normally would. When using the Y cable the head unit does not care where the 2d signal is coming from. The Y cable is pinned out so the 2d only comes from the 2d transducer and Si/Di come from the si transducer. When combined withba Y cable the head unit will see both transducers as one. So all 2d will come from the shoot thru transducer
Posted By: RoosterHead
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/18 06:56 PM
thanks 44 diesel, one more thing , when selecting transducer what do you use ??
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/18 07:11 PM
thanks 44 diesel, one more thing , when selecting transducer what do you use ??
Hi Definition
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/05/18 07:19 PM
High Definition Side Imaging is the menu choice for the Connected Transducer setting. That is the default setting for that model.
Posted By: 89javelin100
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/10/18 05:14 PM
Question: I have Helix 10 at console. I bought it RIGHT BEFORE(2-3 months) the mega came out, oh well. What model helix 10 do I have? It is a helix10 SI GPS I know that. 1st generation, second gen, g2n?? How do I tell? Im not familiar with these differences and benefits of each model.
I do not have a graph on the front. Most likely 95% chance I'll have to go the cheapest route to get linked graphs for shared navionics mapping on both. My goal is to be able to mark out my spot while idling and graphing at the console and then setup to fish with the front graph and troller motor using the same waypoints i just mapped out for my boat position and fish location or structure etc..
Id love to grab a helix 12 mega or a solix mega to put at the console and throw my helix 10 up front but thats very slim chance, ha. So long story short what graph would you put up front to use for mapping/DI that WILL LINK to my helix 10 SI GPS? Id like at least a 7" screen.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/10/18 05:24 PM
you most likely have the gen 1 helix. The gen2 helix si units are mega units.
You will have to go onix or solix to share mapping, helix and older core units do not share maps. You can share waypoints through the network though.
The cheapest unit that would network would be the helix 7 g2n. They come in several models, si/di/2d model as well as di/2d model or just gps/2d combo model.
All the 9,10, 12 models will network. None of the mega units will network the mega frequencies with your current helix. You could only network the 455/800 imaging frequnecies along with the 83/200 2d frequencies
Posted By: stapler101
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/11/18 01:45 PM
I have several questions.
My current setup is 1199ci si hd at the console with transducer mounted outside the boat and 998 hd si at the bow with transducer mounted on trolling motor.
I am moving an 1199ci si hd from the console to the bow and putting a Helix 12 mega si at the console.
Do they use the same model transducer (if so, I will not move the 1199 transducer).
What items do I need to have high speed readings from the Helix 12? My current setup does not give any readings above approx. 10 mph.
Posted By: 89javelin100
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/11/18 02:42 PM
Wait so sharring waypoints isn't sharring mapping?
I want to be able to graph at the console and mark waypoints, for example a brush pile, then I want to go up to the front graph/map and see the waypoints that I just marked on the console graph and be able to drive to the brush pile with trolling motor.
Do I need 2 separate map/navionics cards?
So when I mark a waypoint on either graph, it will show up on both graphs?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/11/18 04:47 PM
You will need map cards in each unit unless you go with solix.
Yes, you can mark waypoints on front unit and have it show on the bow unit.
Waypoints are saved to the units memory not the map cards
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/15/18 11:24 PM
Can someone help with the steps to network a solix 12 with a solix 15 and ulterra bluetooth.
Currently i have the trolling motor hook to a 5 port hub. i have a cable between both units and the side image to the bow unit on the trolling motor..
I cant get the solix 12 to see the 15 and the 15 to see the twelve or the twelve to see the trolling motor.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:28 AM
Do you have an Ethernet cable from each unit going to the Ethernet hub along with the Ethernet cable from the ulterra?
Are both solix units running the same software?
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:36 AM
I do. Just not sure what else could be wrong. I bought a second cable thinking maybe a bad cable
And yes they are running the same software. I didn't update them yet. I wanted to get this sorted out.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:40 AM
So you have a total of three Ethernet cables going to the hub.
Have you double checked to make sure the hub is powered up?
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:42 AM
It must have power as it will let me see and controls the trolling motor.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:46 AM
OK. Have you tried running an Ethernet cable from one unit to the other to see if the solix units can see other?
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:48 AM
Yes they cant see each other
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/16/18 12:54 AM
Have you tried hooking the ulterra directly to each unit one at a time to see if each unit can at least see the ulterra.
Then try hooking the units together and start one unit up and let it completely boot up then start the next one
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/18 07:00 PM
What is the best map for the Helix 7/Texas lakes? Doesn't the Helix 7 have a nice map built in? What are the benefits of a supplemental map?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/22/18 11:16 PM
What is the best map for the Helix 7/Texas lakes? Doesn't the Helix 7 have a nice map built in? What are the benefits of a supplemental map?
Which one of the about 20 models of Helix 7??????????????
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/18 12:49 AM
Chirp SI GPS S2
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/18 01:26 AM
It's G2.
Depending on the mfg date, it could have two maps in the memory. One is called Uni-map and has no contours for any body of water (basically a color background with some highways and rough outline of some bodies of water).
The other is the new Humminbird Basemap or you can install it with an update. That is the 2017 issue of Lakemaster contour mapping, but none are HD. An example is Lake Fork has 10' contours.
The unit will read any Lakemaster map product, any Navionics map product, and Auto Chart maps (created by sonar logs via computer software). It also has Auto Chart Live built in to create your own HD contour mapping in real time.
Posted By: Bruce's
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/18 01:36 AM
I got my issue fixed. it had to do with the updates on all units.
Posted By: mperl
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/23/18 01:58 AM
Thanks, Wayne. I downloaded the Basemap update and hope I can install it.
Posted By: nxt
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/18 09:38 PM
Gotta buy a new transducer, knocked it off and trolling motor ate it. Helix 10 DI (NON-MEGA). Had XTM 9 DI 25 T before but looking at the XTM 9 Wide DI 20. My question is: Will the Wide DI 20 work with the older Helix 10, and has anyone bought one? Thoughts?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/13/18 11:15 PM
Gotta buy a new transducer, knocked it off and trolling motor ate it. Helix 10 DI (NON-MEGA). Had XTM 9 DI 25 T before but looking at the XTM 9 Wide DI 20. My question is: Will the Wide DI 20 work with the older Helix 10, and has anyone bought one? Thoughts?
Yes it will work with gen 1 helix.
Posted By: lockjaw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/05/18 09:59 PM
My helix 9 di gps gen 1 is stuck in shut down mode even if powered up remotely it will not shut off unless I unplug the power from it. It worked flawlessly yesterday and went into this crazy mode to today when it was first powered up. Any ideas before I ship it back?
I recently switched from Gen 1 HDS to Helix 10 gen 1s. I have moved my rear transducer every which way and I still am getting a very dark reading on the left side of my side scan. I can swap to 800khz and it completely blacks out. I consider myself pretty good with these things but I can't fix this issue.
I started here with the ducer:
I am currently here with it. I have been everywhere in between. The image does not change no matter what I do.
I understand the images aren't the best but the unit currently freezes every time I try to insert my sim card.
What do yall think?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/18 03:29 AM
I recently switched from Gen 1 HDS to Helix 10 gen 1s. I have moved my rear transducer every which way and I still am getting a very dark reading on the left side of my side scan. I can swap to 800khz and it completely blacks out. I consider myself pretty good with these things but I can't fix this issue.
I started here with the ducer:
I am currently here with it. I have been everywhere in between. The image does not change no matter what I do.
I understand the images aren't the best but the unit currently freezes every time I try to insert my sim card.
What do yall think?
Looks to me you may have a transducer issue. The left side element gone bad. If you could hook up another transducer to it you can verify it.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/06/18 03:33 AM
My helix 9 di gps gen 1 is stuck in shut down mode even if powered up remotely it will not shut off unless I unplug the power from it. It worked flawlessly yesterday and went into this crazy mode to today when it was first powered up. Any ideas before I ship it back?
If you have any map cards in the unit try removing them. How is the unit powered, straight to battery or fuse panel and what size wire?
Posted By: lockjaw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/07/18 11:09 PM
No map cards installed. Called Hummingbird and they told me to ship it back. SO the wait begins.
Posted By: crappie-quest
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/18 01:16 AM
I just installed a new helix 10 mega and tried loading my waypoints from my previous helix 10 SD card and the new unit says not enough memory to load all data.
I downloaded the way points from the older unit, which I am moving to the bow, just before I tried loading them to the new one.
Any ideas why it wouldn’t have enough memory?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/18 10:59 AM
I just installed a new helix 10 mega and tried loading my waypoints from my previous helix 10 SD card and the new unit says not enough memory to load all data.
I downloaded the way points from the older unit, which I am moving to the bow, just before I tried loading them to the new one.
Any ideas why it wouldn’t have enough memory?
Did you check the MEGA unit’s waypoint library to see if all the data loaded?
Posted By: crappie-quest
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/18/18 09:05 PM
Yes and there was no data. No way points.
bought a 1197c Si online the other day, got it hooked it up to the xhs 9hdsi 180t transducer and nothing is working. Motor off, on. Running full speed,stopped, idle,w.e.. the simulator mode works. I have reset to factory.. adjusted settings thrn back to factory and still not working.. the Si is just a blue screen and a line for the water columb.. i have a pic but not sure how to post it
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 09/05/18 01:26 AM
bought a 1197c Si online the other day, got it hooked it up to the xhs 9hdsi 180t transducer and nothing is working. Motor off, on. Running full speed,stopped, idle,w.e.. the simulator mode works. I have reset to factory.. adjusted settings thrn back to factory and still not working.. the Si is just a blue screen and a line for the water columb.. i have a pic but not sure how to post it
Next chance you get, remove the cables from the cable collector. Then just plug the transducer and the power cable into the unit. This will verify that the transducer is plugged all the way in. If that still doesn't work then check the transducer cable for damage.
If possible plug in another transducer to the unit. It can be the compact or just a 2d transducer that is compatible.
Cable connector? The cable from the transducer is plugged directly into the back of the unit..?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/05/18 10:31 AM
Cable connector? The cable from the transducer is plugged directly into the back of the unit..?
Cable COLLECTOR. The box thingy that holds all the cable plugs and snaps onto the back of the display.
Ok Everything Is plugged in fully in the back of the unit, got another transducer. The 2d works..and SI is picking up the bottom, like if i drop off into a creek channel you can clearly tell but its just a blank blue screen with a few random dots no matter what settings are I spoke with the guy I bought it from and he said he was running a sd card with the 6.670 update which is for a 998 modle.. my 1197c is running the 6.640, the last update for the 1197.. could this be the issue?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/19/18 08:46 PM
Ok Everything Is plugged in fully in the back of the unit, got another transducer. The 2d works..and SI is picking up the bottom, like if i drop off into a creek channel you can clearly tell but its just a blank blue screen with a few random dots no matter what settings are I spoke with the guy I bought it from and he said he was running a sd card with the 6.670 update which is for a 998 modle.. my 1197c is running the 6.640, the last update for the 1197.. could this be the issue?
Do you have the SI RANGE set to deeper than the bottom is?
He could not load the 998 software on the 1197 and you can't either. The unit will not run on any software that is on a memory card. Software is installed in the unit's memory ONLY.
Do a Restore Defaults to get rid of any menu changes anyone has done that you cannot figure out.
Ok. Yes sir i’ve reset it.. adjusted the range from120 to low not sure exactly how close but in 10’ to 25’ of water.. alright so i gigured he was just shooting the bull my way to keep me from posting much about his sorry deal online
Software Update
HELIX G2N v. 1.840
SOLIX Series v. 3.230rd
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 09/27/18 03:56 PM
3.23rd is the current software for the solix. that was released earlier this summer. Should be a new software update released soon. It should fix the depth reading issue
Helix 9.. 120hrs on unit.. 2d, Di and Si no reading on screen. The unit started off freezing for a second or two now no reading at all. GPS works fine simulator mode works fine...suggestions? If transducer is bad would the screen still scroll across or would there be no reading at all ?
Posted By: CMS3
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/03/18 01:09 PM
I got a question for those who know more about electronics than I do:
I have a helix 12 gen 1 SI on the console and want to upgrade the bow unit, I am thinking of a helix 10 mega DI to be able to look at brush for fish and also want to add a 360 when able. Now the question I have is for DI looking at piles for fish, and using the 360 how much am I giving up with a 10 and not a 12? If its a big deal I can go with a 12 but I like the price of the 10 much more. Let me know what y'all think, and I understand that a lot of it is just opinion.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/03/18 06:06 PM
I got a question for those who know more about electronics than I do:
I have a helix 12 gen 1 SI on the console and want to upgrade the bow unit, I am thinking of a helix 10 mega DI to be able to look at brush for fish and also want to add a 360 when able. Now the question I have is for DI looking at piles for fish, and using the 360 how much am I giving up with a 10 and not a 12? If its a big deal I can go with a 12 but I like the price of the 10 much more. Let me know what y'all think, and I understand that a lot of it is just opinion.
I think your gonna like the 12" better. The 360 image will fit on the 12" screen better than the smaller screens.
Posted By: Kylefield
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/20/18 09:50 PM
I have a 1199 CI HD and with an early model 360 pole on the back. I would like to have a 2nd dept finder on front that can show my 360 from the back of the boat while allowing my original unit to do the same. what would be a good model to put on the front that could interface with my existing equipment and what interface do I need? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/21/18 12:39 AM
I have a 1199 CI HD and with an early model 360 pole on the back. I would like to have a 2nd dept finder on front that can show my 360 from the back of the boat while allowing my original unit to do the same. what would be a good model to put on the front that could interface with my existing equipment and what interface do I need? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Any Helix model that has Ethernet. Makes no difference if it is a SI model, DI model or Sonar Model. That would be a Helix 7 G2N, or any Helix 9, Helix 10, or Helix 12.
Also an ONIX and SOLIX will display 360 at the same time.
The 360 is an Ethernet accessory, you have one cable now and two connections. To have more connections, you need the AS ETH 5PXG Ethernet Switch. Then each device would connect to the Switch via Ethernet cable. The Helix models need the AS EC QDE Ethernet adapter just like your 1199 does.
This is my 360 being displayed on a Helix, SOLIX and ONIX at the same time:
Posted By: FishTheBite
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/12/18 11:35 AM
I recently updated my Helix 10si G1 to the 1.840 software and missed the part about turning off the Auto Upload Data function before the update. The unit now will not work when my Terrova is turned on. It’s my understanding that I need to reinstall older software and then go back through the update process correctly.
Does anybody have an older update backed up that they would be willing to share?
I will also be calling Humminbird today to see if they can give me access to an older software update without me having to send them the unit.
Posted By: texasryan9
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/10/19 10:53 PM
I've got a question about networking a couple of units. I've got a 998C SI model (serial number 11101802-0149) at the console, and a 788 CI Combo (serial number 10020202-0531)at the bow. Can these two units be networked together? If so, what cable(s) do I need? Also, is it possible to have the 788 read the mapping card that is in the 998, but use the GPS antenna that is in the 788 for location?
I would like to able to view all of my waypoints, tracks, mapping card, etc. on both units, but I still want to be able to have the separate GPS antennas used. Is this possible?
Any information is appreciated. Thanks!
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 01/11/19 12:04 AM
I've got a question about networking a couple of units. I've got a 998C SI model (serial number 11101802-0149) at the console, and a 788 CI Combo (serial number 10020202-0531)at the bow. Can these two units be networked together? If so, what cable(s) do I need? Also, is it possible to have the 788 read the mapping card that is in the 998, but use the GPS antenna that is in the 788 for location?
I would like to able to view all of my waypoints, tracks, mapping card, etc. on both units, but I still want to be able to have the separate GPS antennas used. Is this possible?
Any information is appreciated. Thanks!
The 788 will only be able to network if its the 788 HD model.
only solix /onix can share maps from one unit to another
Posted By: Chaparro75
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 02/28/19 05:46 AM
Helix 9.. 120hrs on unit.. 2d, Di and Si no reading on screen. The unit started off freezing for a second or two now no reading at all. GPS works fine simulator mode works fine...suggestions? If transducer is bad would the screen still scroll across or would there be no reading at all ?
My helix 9 has an option to turn off the transducer. Maybe you can check that. It also has the system check. Might run that and see if it says transducer connected.
Posted By: shadboy
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/19 02:40 AM
? For Mr. Wayne P.
I am looking at the Helix 7 SI Mega+ (not 100% sure if correct). Basically best and latest model. I am looking for some images of DI. I have 1st gen and DI was most disappointing aspect of this great ff. Also what is best ducer for that model. I ain’t cheaping out this time.
Thank you sir.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 03/28/19 12:03 PM
? For Mr. Wayne P.
I am looking at the Helix 7 SI Mega+ (not 100% sure if correct). Basically best and latest model. I am looking for some images of DI. I have 1st gen and DI was most disappointing aspect of this great ff. Also what is best ducer for that model. I ain’t cheaping out this time.
Thank you sir.
There is no Helix 7 MEGA SI+. The current model is Helix 7 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G3 or Helix 7 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G3N.
The transducer that comes with those is just like the Compact SI transducer of earlier models and does not have a Down Imaging piezo. The unit has composite DI views created by blending the two SI pulses.
The difference is the G3/G3N has the additional MEGA Imaging frequency and Dual Spectrum CHIRP 2D sonar instead of Dual Beam 83/200 kHz.
I have tried the larger transducer that the larger units have as a standard but did not notice any improved images in the short period I tested it. The larger SI+ transducer does not add dedicated DI to that unit or + power, just a couple hundred more dollars.
This is the two Compact SI transducers:
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/HLjf6GNH/20181126-124432.jpg)
This is the standard transducer for the Helix 7 MEGA SI units compared to the standard MEGA SI+ transducer:
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/rwS1SdMZ/20181216-165104.jpg)
Posted By: shadboy
Re: Humminbird - 03/29/19 01:15 AM
Thanks Wayne.
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird - 04/08/19 11:58 AM
Will the newer, I think its the 1.9 update on my helix 10 chirp mega fix the shallow water reading? It just started it the last time out,been reading good before then. Wish I would have reset the default settings while I was out there. 1.610 is what I'm running now. And is this the new base map soft ware 1.051
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/08/19 12:58 PM
Will the newer, I think its the 1.9 update on my helix 10 chirp mega fix the shallow water reading? It just started it the last time out,been reading good before then. Wish I would have reset the default settings while I was out there. 1.610 is what I'm running now. And is this the new base map soft ware 1.051
My units using 1.900 don't have the depth glitch, some still do.
The Humminbird Basemap is a separate download from the unit software.
1.460 is the software version that added the capability to install the Basemap, all versions with a higher number have that included, but you still have to install the separate Basemap file if you don't have it.
There is no new file, just the one in three versions depending on what unit you have. 1.051 is the 8GB+ file you would have.
It is the 2017 Lakemaster coverage and none are HD.
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird - 04/08/19 01:23 PM
Thanks Wayne I'm going to go back to default settings before I do anything and see if that helps. I'm pretty good at pushing the wrong buttons
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird - 04/08/19 06:28 PM
Going back to default setting fixed it
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/13/19 09:21 PM
Finally got the boat back on the water for a shakedown yesterday after 18 months. I have G1 helix 10 KVD with SI Y cabled to a shoot through lowrance 2D thru-hull transducer. The Helix would not display any depth reading until I dropped the terrova (which is linked to the Helix) in the water.
Does the terrova iPliot send depth data to the Helix through the Ethernet cable?
The Lowrance 2D transducer is 15 years old. Do they wear out
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/13/19 11:24 PM
Finally got the boat back on the water for a shakedown yesterday after 18 months. I have G1 helix 10 KVD with SI Y cabled to a shoot through lowrance 2D thru-hull transducer. The Helix would not display any depth reading until I dropped the terrova (which is linked to the Helix) in the water.
Does the terrova iPliot send depth data to the Helix through the Ethernet cable?
The Lowrance 2D transducer is 15 years old. Do they wear out
That makes no sense. Do you have another Humminbird unit connected to the Minnkota US2 transducer?
iPilot has nothing to do with sonar, that is GPS.
Explain your entire setup.
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/14/19 01:18 AM
I do not have another Humminbird connected to the MinnKota US2. I have an external Lowrance DI transducer on the trolling motor and ran the cable up the shaft and to an Elite 7 that I use on the bow.
I have a Helix 10 SI KVD at the console, installed the SI transducer on the stern and ran it and the existing Lowrance 2D thru-hull transducer (using a Motorguide Sonar Adapter - Lowrance to Humminbird) to the Helix 10 with an AS-SIDB-Y cable.
Terrova with iPilot connected to the Helix the Ethernet adapter cable.
The whole setup worked time last time I had the boat out more than a year ago.
Took the boat out for the first time in over a year and ran it yesterday. No 2D sonar on the Helix for over 1/2 hour.
Stopped and put the Terrova down in the water, the Lowrance showed the depth immediately, then about 5 minutes later the Helix started showing the depth.
I agree it doesn't make sense, that'w why I was wondering if US2 data was sent via the Ethernet cable (I couldn't find an answer in the manual). I also wonder if the 2D transducer in the hull could be bad and needs replaced.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/14/19 01:44 AM
I do not have another Humminbird connected to the MinnKota US2. I have an external Lowrance DI transducer on the trolling motor and ran the cable up the shaft and to an Elite 7 that I use on the bow.
I have a Helix 10 SI KVD at the console, installed the SI transducer on the stern and ran it and the existing Lowrance 2D thru-hull transducer (using a Motorguide Sonar Adapter - Lowrance to Humminbird) to the Helix 10 with an AS-SIDB-Y cable.
Terrova with iPilot connected to the Helix the Ethernet adapter cable.
The whole setup worked time last time I had the boat out more than a year ago.
Took the boat out for the first time in over a year and ran it yesterday. No 2D sonar on the Helix for over 1/2 hour.
Stopped and put the Terrova down in the water, the Lowrance showed the depth immediately, then about 5 minutes later the Helix started showing the depth.
I agree it doesn't make sense, that'w why I was wondering if US2 data was sent via the Ethernet cable (I couldn't find an answer in the manual). I also wonder if the 2D transducer in the hull could be bad and needs replaced.
It is physically impossible to get US2 sonar data directly via Ethernet. You can share the US2 sonar if it is connected to another Humminbird unit using Ethernet.
You may have a weak shoot-thru, loose or faulty Y cable, or the shoot-thru has partially come loose.
Disconnect the Y cable from both transducers and connect the SI transducer directly to the display--check for the depth reading.
Do the same with the shoot-thru.
That should let you know what part is faulty.
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/14/19 09:13 PM
Thank you, Wayne.
Posted By: donothin
Re: Humminbird - 04/17/19 12:43 PM
What is the rumor on HB and panotix like technology? If they get it, will likely work on ONIX?
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/19/19 11:10 AM
Using the Humminbird ethernet, can I control an iPilot through a Gen 1 Helix at both the bow and the console?
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/21/19 02:49 AM
2004 SX190, should the SI transducer be on the transom or under it by the drain and live well inlets?
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2019/04/full-9031-9305-51c3525b_fbf3_4852_9f80_fcd4524ff137.jpeg)
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 04/21/19 03:00 AM
Using the Humminbird ethernet, can I control an iPilot through a Gen 1 Helix at both the bow and the console?
Yes, as long as you have the I pilot link and the 5 port Ethernet switch you can connect all three.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 04/21/19 03:04 AM
2004 SX190, should the SI transducer be on the transom or under it by the drain and live well inlets?
Where it is now is fine as long as you are not expecting to get 2d readings while on plane. The 2 most important things are that the transducer has a clear view right and left and is level.
Posted By: SaltyDawg88
Re: Humminbird - 04/21/19 03:46 AM
Personaly, I would have mounted it where the red square is so you have sonar at all times.
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2019/04/full-25814-9310-transducer.jpeg)
Posted By: back water
Re: Humminbird - 04/22/19 05:55 PM
I have the same issue. Where the red square is the ducer would hit the cross member on the trailer.Could move boat back on the trailer. But what would that do to trailer weight or tung weight? Would it be good for the transom to hang over the trailer bunk boards?
Posted By: ScottCook
Re: Humminbird - 04/22/19 07:47 PM
Thank you, 44Diesel and Saltydawg88, I think I'll move it and see what happens next.
I have the same issue. Where the red square is the ducer would hit the cross member on the trailer.Could move boat back on the trailer. But what would that do to trailer weight or tung weight? Would it be good for the transom to hang over the trailer bunk boards?
Wouldn't hit the cross member, the bunks are higher than that and the cross member is not that close to the boat when loading or unloading; the boat floats above it.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/23/19 01:44 AM
Thank you, 44Diesel and Saltydawg88, I think I'll move it and see what happens next.
I have the same issue. Where the red square is the ducer would hit the cross member on the trailer.Could move boat back on the trailer. But what would that do to trailer weight or tung weight? Would it be good for the transom to hang over the trailer bunk boards?
Wouldn't hit the cross member, the bunks are higher than that and the cross member is not that close to the boat when loading or unloading; the boat floats above it.
Leave it where it is and install a shoot-thru 2D transducer for 2D sonar/Depth. That is the proper installation for that hull.
Posted By: back water
Re: Humminbird - 04/23/19 03:06 PM
Thanks Wayne Which ducer, do I need a transfer switch?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 04/25/19 02:24 AM
Thanks Wayne Which ducer, do I need a transfer switch?
What unit do you have?
Posted By: back water
Re: Humminbird - 04/25/19 03:08 PM
Helix 7DI/SI G1
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 04/25/19 08:06 PM
Thanks Wayne Which ducer, do I need a transfer switch?
What unit do you have?
No need for a switch , just a y cable. The 2d ducer will connect to one end and the si/di ducer will connect to the other end. The head unit will process both ducers as one ducer. 2d will only and always come from the 2d ducer and temp and si/ di will come from the 2d ducer. The y cable is pinned out so the 2d element in the si ducer is disabled.
Gonna want to test the shoot them ducer before install by placing the dicer in the area you want to mount it and submerge the ducer under some water, usually just add some water to the bilge area. Put something heavy on the super to keep it in place and drive around and move the ducer till you find the sweet spot.
https://humminbird.johnsonoutdoors....-hull-singledualbeam-transducer?id=18691
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 04/25/19 09:53 PM
No need for the T model transducer. The Y cable does not have a circuit for it on the Dual Beam side of the Y.
XP 9 20
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird - 05/28/19 07:36 PM
Can I change the color of my waypoints all at once,...or do they need to be done one at a time, I have a Helix 7 , jim
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 06/28/19 03:44 PM
Posted By: doctorxring
Re: Humminbird - 07/01/19 06:30 AM
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Just don’t tell me I’ll have to upgrade my Helix MEGA Gen 2 to a Gen3 to use this new 360 unit.
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Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/01/19 10:36 PM
MEGA 360 Informat[size:17pt][/size]ion:
MEGA 360 Compatibility:
Direct Connect MEGA 360 Sonar Transducer:
SOLIX 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G2
SOLIX 15 CHIRP MEGA DI+ G2 CHO
SOLIX 12 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G2
SOLIX 12 CHIRP MEGA DI+ G2 CHO
SOLIX 10 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G2
SOLIX 10 CHIRP MEGA DI+ G2 CHO
HELIX 12 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 12 CHIRP MEGA DI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 10 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 10 CHIRP MEGA DI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 9 CHIRP MEGA DI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3N
HELIX 8 CHIRP MEGA DI+ GPS G3N
(Note that due to a hardware limitation in the SOLIX “G1” and HELIX G2N, MEGA 360 cannot directly connect and be controlled by these models)
Indirectly via an Ethernet subscription to a SOLIX G2 or HELIX G3N model:
All SOLIX G2
All SOLIX “G1”
All HELIX G3N
All HELIX G2N
FAQ:
How does the MEGA 360 connect?
The new MEGA 360 connects the same way that a conventional 2D, DI, or SI transducer connects.
The MEGA 360 can be connected directly alongside a second transducer with a transducer splitter cable. For HELIX units use: 9 M360 2DDI Y (720107-1). For SOLIX units use: 14 M360 2DDI Y (720108-1).
If the MEGA 360 is connected in addition to another transducer, sonar options will be 2D, DI, 360, and SI from the MEGA 360. Stand-alone SI will not be an option while the MEGA 360 is connected
Can I connect other transducers at the same time as the MEGA 360?
Yes
HW, HW/MEGA DI+, HW/MEGA DI+/MEGA SI+ imaging transducers can be connected in conjunction with the MEGA 360. Built-In MEGA DI+ from a Minn Kota trolling motor can also be connected at the same time as a MEGA 360.
A transducer splitter cable is needed to do this. Use a 9 M360 2DDI Y (HELIX) (720107-1) or a 14 M360 2DDI Y (SOLIX) (720108-1) accessory cable.
If an MEGA SI+ transducer is connected with one of these y-cables, the Humminbird will not be able to get SI data from the MEGA SI+ transducer – only HW and MEGA DI+ will be available. However, the user can get MEGA SI data from the MEGA 360.
US2 Minn Kota transducers and Humminbird transducers that are 83/200 or 50/200 cannot be connected at the same time via Y cable with a MEGA 360.
Airmar High-Wide transducers can be connected at the same time as a MEGA 360, but Low, Medium, High, and 50/200 kHz Airmar transducers cannot be connected at the same time.
What is the MEGA 360 wet switch used for?
The MEGA 360 wet switch automatically stops MEGA 360 pinging/rotation while the transducer is out of the water, in order to prevent wear and tear.
The MEGA 360 and Humminbird unit remember if the user had pinging turned on or off, and when the MEGA 360 is put back into the water, it will resume the users selected previous operation mode.
What other frequencies does the MEGA 360 support besides MEGA?
The MEGA 360 can ping at MEGA and 455 kHz frequencies.
How can I use the MEGA 360 to mark waypoints and spot-lock points?
The MEGA 360 can be used to create waypoints and spot-locks.
In order to do this a Humminbird AS GPS HS (408400-1) or Minn Kota i-Pilot Link BT Heading Sensor must be on the network.
In order to use Minn Kota i-Pilot Link BT Heading Sensor data:
SOLIX must be running software version 3.400 or later
HELIX must be running software version 1.940 or later
i-Pilot Link must be running software version 1.270 or later | i-Pilot Link remote version 2.010 or later
How is the MEGA 360 powered?
The MEGA 360 is powered by a separate power cable that connects to a 12 volt power source.
Is the MEGA 360 easy to install and remove?
The MEGA 360 has connectors and a mounting bracket that are designed to be installed or removed in 1-2 minutes.
What trolling motors is the MEGA 360 compatible with?
The MEGA 360 is compatible with 45” and 54” shaft-length Minn Kota Ultrex, Fortrex, and Maxxum trolling motors.
Is there a transom mount version of the MEGA 360?
No
Can the MEGA 360 be shared between the HELIX and SOLIX over Ethernet?
No.
If the MEGA 360 is connected to a SOLIX – it can only be shared over Ethernet to other SOLIX units.
If the MEGA 360 is connected to a HELIX – it can only be shared over Ethernet to other HELIX units.
Posted By: doctorxring
Re: Humminbird - 07/02/19 06:41 PM
Stand-alone SI will not be an option while the MEGA 360 is connected
Very interesting. Well, this reduces my lust for the 360 MEGA in respect to the way I use 360 sonar. I use SI to find
bluegill beds, drop the iPilot Spot Lock, and then switch the screen to 360 view to position the boat on the bed and
direct my casting, etc.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 07/16/19 12:44 AM
OK Wayne, so I bought a used Helix 12 with only 5 hours on it. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to have asked the question if it had side or down scan on it. Because it said Mega and Chirp I thought I had gotten a good deal on an almost new unit. So now I've mounted it and called Humminbird to find out why there's no side or down scan. Gave them the serial number and it's a Gen 1. Great 2 d view, but not what I was really looking for. What now? Can it be upgraded to add those features or do I have to sell it and buy a newer one. I don't need all the technical stuff and don't care if it's touch screen. Just want the down and side scan. If this one can't be upgraded, which unit will give me both of those features for the best price out there? Thank you!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/16/19 12:08 PM
OK Wayne, so I bought a used Helix 12 with only 5 hours on it. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to have asked the question if it had side or down scan on it. Because it said Mega and Chirp I thought I had gotten a good deal on an almost new unit. So now I've mounted it and called Humminbird to find out why there's no side or down scan. Gave them the serial number and it's a Gen 1. Great 2 d view, but not what I was really looking for. What now? Can it be upgraded to add those features or do I have to sell it and buy a newer one. I don't need all the technical stuff and don't care if it's touch screen. Just want the down and side scan. If this one can't be upgraded, which unit will give me both of those features for the best price out there? Thank you!!
No you cannot "upgrade" a first generation unit to a second generation unit.
No you cannot add Side Imaging and Down Imaging to a 2D-only model.
The only thing you got that was mentioned is CHIRP 2D sonar.
MEGA is the 1200 kHz frequency used with Side Imaging and Down Imaging, no first generation Helix units have that.
Posted By: Resh
Re: Humminbird - 07/16/19 05:16 PM
Basic question. Are the casting circles in diameter or radius in feet? So if I set a 50 ft. casting circle, is the whole circle 50 feet across, or am I 50 feet from the waypoint on the edge of the circle?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/16/19 05:43 PM
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Basic question. Are the casting circles in diameter or radius in feet? So if I set a 50 ft. casting circle, is the whole circle 50 feet across, or am I 50 feet from the waypoint on the edge of the circle?
If you have the unit set up for feet the setting is feet. The setting is the
radius, 50' would be a 100' circle.
Posted By: Resh
Re: Humminbird - 07/16/19 11:24 PM
Thank you sir
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird - 07/18/19 07:12 PM
I am having troubles getting my helix 10 to turn on, and to stay on once it starts. I might have to disconnect/reconnect the plugs five times or more to get it to start.
How do I fix this?
Wire it directly to the battery. Fixed mine.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 07/21/19 06:54 PM
Is there a Helix 12 that has both side and down imaging?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/21/19 07:03 PM
Is there a Helix 12 that has both side and down imaging?
The G2N and G3N Helix 12 SI models have 2D sonar, Side Imaging, and true Down Imaging.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2NHelix 12 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3NThe first generation Helix 12 SI units have 2D sonar, Side Imaging and Composite Down Imaging views.
Composite DI is generated via software by blending the two SI pulses.
Helix 12 CHIRP SI GPS
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 07/21/19 07:06 PM
Is there a Helix 12 that has both side and down imaging?
The top transducer is the MEGA SI and the bottom transducer is the MEGA SI+
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/QdhX0cXC/2megaSI.jpg)
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 07/22/19 01:26 AM
Thanks Wayne!
Posted By: Pilothawk
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/19 12:40 PM
I have never done a software update on my Helix 10 with side imaging. It’s working fine. What advantages are there in risking a software upgrade?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 08/02/19 01:47 PM
I have never done a software update on my Helix 10 with side imaging. It’s working fine. What advantages are there in risking a software upgrade?
If its working fine stay with current software. There isn't any must have features with software updates. They mostly try to correct issues but that can also create new ones. Depending on which helix you have some of the recent software updates new features are geared towards the new Minn Kota MDI trolling motor
To network two helix graphs, I can just put a ethernet cable to them? Also doesn't the software have to be the same on both units to network them? I have an older Helix 10 Si and Im getting a new Mega Helix 12 Si. They also both have to have map cards correct? Will they share mapping with the helix 10 having an older hot maps platinum and a new map card on the new graph?
After the helix 12 and helix 10 are linked, If I get a ultrex/ulterra will I need a hub or can I just plug the "link" troller motor into another port on the front helix 10 graph and that will act as a hub?
I bet its not too long and we will get rid of all the cables....?
Anyone know of any discounts on new helix 12 Si units?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/01/19 06:52 PM
To network two helix graphs, I can just put a ethernet cable to them? Also doesn't the software have to be the same on both units to network them? I have an older Helix 10 Si and Im getting a new Mega Helix 12 Si. They also both have to have map cards correct? Will they share mapping with the helix 10 having an older hot maps platinum and a new map card on the new graph?
After the helix 12 and helix 10 are linked, If I get a ultrex/ulterra will I need a hub or can I just plug the "link" troller motor into another port on the front helix 10 graph and that will act as a hub?
I bet its not too long and we will get rid of all the cables....?
Anyone know of any discounts on new helix 12 Si units?
An Ethernet cable and a AS EC QDE Ethernet adapter for each Helix unit.
Both should have their current software.
Helix units don't share mapping, if you want the same mapping on both, then both need the same map card.
An Ethernet cable only has two ends and there is no Y cable to connect them. Soooo you would need the AS ETH 5 PXG Ethernet Switch to connect three devices together. LINK is an Ethernet connection.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/21/19 07:31 PM
ONIX software update 3.350 available now.
Software Update - ONIX / ION Series v. 3.350
Released 09/13/2019
Software Description
PLEASE NOTE:
• Software version 3.040 or greater must be installed prior to 3.350. No damage will occur if 3.040 or greater is not installed, but the update will not be successful. 3.040 is also included in this zipped file.
• Version 3.000 must be installed prior to any of these installations. If you are not running version 3.000, click HERE to install it prior to this installation.
Updated Features:
• None
Summary of issues that have been addressed in v3.300:
SONAR
• Fixed several issues with 2D sonar digital depth tracking.
i-PILOT LINK
• Fixed several issues with Follow-the-Contour engagement and extensionsFixed several issues with 2D sonar digital depth tracking
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/19 02:49 PM
What would be the best transducer for me on my trolling motor? I have a Solix 12 on the front.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/19 03:13 PM
What would be the best transducer for me on my trolling motor? I have a Solix 12 on the front.
Which solix 12 do you have. Mega or mega +. What sonar capabilities do you want from the trolling motor transducer
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/19 03:21 PM
I will have to check. The transducer that came on my trolling motor was a Mega SI. Does this transducer have Chirp as well?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/19 03:37 PM
I will have to check. The transducer that came on my trolling motor was a Mega SI. Does this transducer have Chirp as well?
The head unit chirps the transducer. All the transducer does is provide the quality of chirp returns. The gen 2 solix mega + transducers comes with dual spectrum HW 2d built in which is a higher quality chirp 2d. The gen 1 Comes with dual beam 2d but it does have the capability of dual spectrum HW
The dual spectrum has no relation to the si/di frequencies however
I would like to upgrade my console unit to the to get to mega SI/DI. I am currently running a 998C HD SI, are there updates that help the 998 to get to better SI/DI? I have been out of fishing for awhile and the technology has really taken off.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/05/19 04:52 PM
I would like to upgrade my console unit to the to get to mega SI/DI. I am currently running a 998C HD SI, are there updates that help the 998 to get to better SI/DI? I have been out of fishing for awhile and the technology has really taken off.
No, the last update for a 998 was over four years ago. The 998 does not have Down Imaging, it has composite DI views created by blending the two SI pulses.
The Helix MEGA SI units in the 8", 9", 10", and 12" display sizes have true Down Imaging with a DI piezo in the SI transducer.
Posted By: J Rankin
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/05/19 10:01 PM
How do add this coordinates to my hummingbird?? It’s not letting me add all the numbers
30*19’21.90 n
96*34’14.63 w
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/05/19 11:17 PM
How do add this coordinates to my hummingbird?? It’s not letting me add all the numbers
30*19’21.90 n
96*34’14.63 w
Go to the unit Setup Menu and down to Position Format. Change it to DD MM SS
Enter the numbers without the ones after the decimal--no space for decimal seconds.
After you are finished, you can go back and return the format back to default DD MM.MMM
That co-ordinate is on Lake Somervile in about 15' of water around a point from a boat ramp.
Posted By: J Rankin
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/06/19 12:23 AM
Cool .. thanks .. I got them loaded..
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/08/19 01:09 PM
what power cord do I need for a 688,..???
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/08/19 01:40 PM
what power cord do I need for a 688,..???
PC-11
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/17/19 07:00 PM
If I mounted the transducer backwards on my trolling motor, would that effect the boat direction that is being shown on the screen ?
I guess Im asking where is the boat getting its signal for direction..? from the transducer or the head unit...?? thanks
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/17/19 07:10 PM
Your right side would then be your left. Depending on which unit you have , there is a transducer orientation setting that will reverse the sides.. if you were to mount it backwards it would still display the right and left sides correctly on the unit
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/17/19 10:06 PM
confusing,..I have a HB Helix 9 Mega with traditional and DI only, seems like left and right are opposite, but fwd and reverse are shown correctly
on the gps...
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/17/19 10:20 PM
The GPS is in the head unit and has nothing to do with the transducer
Posted By: ALY
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/04/19 02:28 PM
I replaced my GPS ONLY puck on my 1198 with a GPS+Heading Sensor Puck. My projected course line seems to be off quite a bit at slow troll speeds. I did not install the puck next to any electro mag interference sources ( I used a compass to verify a suitable mounting location).
Is there any calibration that I need to perform now that I have a Puck with the heading sensor built in? If so, could someone point me in the right direction (no pun intended). This is on an 1198si unit.
Thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/04/19 03:22 PM
I replaced my GPS ONLY puck on my 1198 with a GPS+Heading Sensor Puck. My projected course line seems to be off quite a bit at slow troll speeds. I did not install the puck next to any electro mag interference sources ( I used a compass to verify a suitable mounting location).
Is there any calibration that I need to perform now that I have a Puck with the heading sensor built in? If so, could someone point me in the right direction (no pun intended). This is on an 1198si unit.
Thanks
As stated on your BBC post, review page 16 in the manual that came with the antenna.
Posted By: ALY
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/04/19 03:35 PM
Thank you Wayne!
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/19 07:38 PM
Can I update my Helix 10 without the transducer hooked up? I want to do it in the house where it's warm.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/19 08:03 PM
Can I update my Helix 10 without the transducer hooked up? I want to do it in the house where it's warm.
yes, put it in simulator mode and make sure the power source is good. You do not want a power loss during update process
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 02:18 PM
updated my helix 10 g2 to 2.11. now when you go to user mode the choice is custom or angler. if you're going to tweak it some, do you use angler or custom mode?
thanks in advanced
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 02:22 PM
updated my helix 10 g2 to 2.11. now when you go to user mode the choice is custom or angler. if you're going to tweak it some, do you use angler or custom mode?
thanks in advanced
You have more menu options in advanced mode
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 02:26 PM
there is only angler or custom mode
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 03:44 PM
there is only angler or custom mode
Yes custom mode not advanced
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 04:53 PM
thanks
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 05:06 PM
A Sept 2018 software update renamed the two User Mode settings.
Used to be Normal and Advanced, now it is Angler and Custom.
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 05:18 PM
Thanks
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 07:08 PM
If I want to study a lake on my helix 10 with my my chip in (I've got it in the house no transducer) do need to turn the sonar off?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 07:19 PM
If I want to study a lake on my helix 10 with my my chip in (I've got it in the house no transducer) do need to turn the sonar off?
Yes or simulator
Posted By: RonH
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/18/19 07:21 PM
Thanks
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/19 03:55 PM
Guys, you have probably answered this question before, but, I have problems getting true depth readings with my Solix. I have a Solix at the steering and on the bow. Both are inconsistent and unreliable and I bought new in December of 2018. Any thoughts?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/19 04:02 PM
Guys, you have probably answered this question before, but, I have problems getting true depth readings with my Solix. I have a Solix at the steering and on the bow. Both are inconsistent and unreliable and I bought new in December of 2018. Any thoughts?
What's your current software? What's your transducer setup?
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/19 04:04 PM
Original software and Mega SI, front and back.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/19 04:14 PM
Original software and Mega SI, front and back.
Update the software to 3.5. it's the latest. there has been software fixes for the erratic depth issues
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/20/19 04:16 PM
Original software and Mega SI, front and back.
Update the software to 3.5. it's the latest. there has been software fixes for the erratic depth issues
Ok, thanks for the info!
Posted By: elmo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 01:28 AM
I have 2 hds lowrance with si/di networked.one bow and one at the console The lss transducer is mounted on the back of the boat.
I recently bought a hummingbird 10 si/di. I plan to mount it at the console also with the bird transducer on the back of the boat as a stand-a-Lone unit. Can I install the bird transducer on the same level as the lowrance transducer and expect side imaging and/ or down imaging to work on both brands? Thanks for the information in advance.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 01:35 AM
I have 2 hds lowrance with si/di networked.one bow and one at the console The lss transducer is mounted on the back of the boat.
I recently bought a hummingbird 10 si/di. I plan to mount it at the console also with the bird transducer on the back of the boat as a stand-a-Lone unit. Can I install the bird transducer on the same level as the lowrance transducer and expect side imaging and/ or down imaging to work on both brands? Thanks for the information in advance.
Humminbird's SI covers from the water's surface to past vertical under the transducer on both sides, so anything within that coverage will produce a recorded echo.
Depending on what model Humminbird (Helix or SOLIX) and which generation, you may have 4 frequencies that will cross-talk with the Lowrance unit.
So exactly what model and what generation Humminbird do you have?
Posted By: elmo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 01:52 AM
Thank you Wayne. It is a G2 Helix. Just bought it new. I really wanted it for lakemaster use but would like to use other options at the same time as the lowrance too.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 02:14 AM
Thank you Wayne. It is a G2 Helix. Just bought it new. I really wanted it for lakemaster use but would like to use other options at the same time as the lowrance too.
There are two issues of Helix 10 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N's.
One was discontinued last year before the G3N's were produced, it is the 2017/2018 model,.
One is a HW promo version produced and sold recently by Cabelas and Bass Pro and is a 2019 model.
The first six digits of the serial number is the day the unit was made YY MM DD
The older model has 83/200 kHz single frequency or Chirped for 2D sonar.
The HW promo model has HW CHIRP 140-240 kHz for 2D sonar.
Both versions have 455/800/1200 kHz single frequency or Chirped for Side Imaging and Down Imaging.
Any two units operating at the same time on the same frequencies will cross-talk when their sonar pulses overlap. That is a sure thing for 2D sonar and Imaging with the transducers that close.
The Lowrance normally uses 83/200 kHz for 2D sonar and 455/800 kHz for Side Scan and Down Scan.
The older Humminbird G2N uses 200 kHz all the time for the Depth readout no matter what frequency you choose to view.
Sooooo, to get any useful sonar data on both units at the same time, don't use the same frequencies.
Posted By: elmo
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 02:19 AM
Gotcha. But installing them a ft or so apart on the same plane is ok?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/21/19 02:24 AM
Gotcha. But installing them a ft or so apart on the same plane is ok?
Yes for waters deep enough so side blockage is not an issue.
Humminbird's SI will cover hundreds of feet with the outboard skeg stuck in the bottom.
I'm going to likely be repeating a question that has been covered but this is a 135 page thread. I purchased a Helix 12 inch G3N CHO with CHIRP , MEGA DI Plus, with GPS. I am placing at the bow where I have an existing Lowrance GEN 3 9 inch unit. My purpose is to have standard sonar and MEGA 360. The MEGA 360 is on backorder so I have some time to think about installation which I'm currently doing. I am going to set it up on my own and am placing it on the bow of a ZX 250. Luckily I have unused power leads to the bow so no need to pull a new circuit. Here are my questions:
1. I have an Ultrex with universal sonar and that is the standard sonar. Not the DI or SI transducer. When I unplug the connection to the Lowrance transducer, what Humminbird cable do I use to connect US to the Helix?
2. When I eventually receive the MEGA 360, what cable is used to connect the MEGA 360 and the Universal Sonar?
3. I assume if I wanted to , I could also attach a DI transducer to the trolling motor. So with that transducer plus the US and MEGA 360, is there a cable that connects all three? It seems somewhere I saw that the MEGA 360 or a DI transducer may connect via an Ethernet port.
4. I simply have not seen this kind of guidance in instruction for Humminbird and I am new to Humminbird having never owned a HB unit.
Thanks for any help.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/22/19 09:04 PM
I'm going to likely be repeating a question that has been covered but this is a 135 page thread. I purchased a Helix 12 inch G3N CHO with CHIRP , MEGA DI Plus, with GPS. I am placing at the bow where I have an existing Lowrance GEN 3 9 inch unit. My purpose is to have standard sonar and MEGA 360. The MEGA 360 is on backorder so I have some time to think about installation which I'm currently doing. I am going to set it up on my own and am placing it on the bow of a ZX 250. Luckily I have unused power leads to the bow so no need to pull a new circuit. Here are my questions:
1. I have an Ultrex with universal sonar and that is the standard sonar. Not the DI or SI transducer. When I unplug the connection to the Lowrance transducer, what Humminbird cable do I use to connect US to the Helix?
2. When I eventually receive the MEGA 360, what cable is used to connect the MEGA 360 and the Universal Sonar?
3. I assume if I wanted to , I could also attach a DI transducer to the trolling motor. So with that transducer plus the US and MEGA 360, is there a cable that connects all three? It seems somewhere I saw that the MEGA 360 or a DI transducer may connect via an Ethernet port.
4. I simply have not seen this kind of guidance in instruction for Humminbird and I am new to Humminbird having never owned a HB unit.
Thanks for any help.
1. Don't, you would be removing the MEGA 360 capability. Don't get the CHO and install the MDI+ transducer on the US2 trolling motor.
All third generation Helix units and second generation SOLIX units have standard HW CHIRP 2D sonar 140-240 kHz.
2. None, get the Helix MEGA 360 Y cable and connect the MEGA 360 and MEGA DI+ transducer to the display.
3. Forget you have US2 transducer. Ethernet has nothing to do with MEGA 360 other than it can be shared to G2N and other G3N units via Ethernet. The MEGA 360 is a transducer connection NOT an Ethernet connection like the 360 is.
4. I have the MEGA 360 and run it with a Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G3N, but use the MDI+ transducer since you cannot connect both the Side Imaging piezos and the MEGA 360 to the unit. The MEGA 360 replaces Side Imaging.
So, I have to purchase that $220 attach to the bottom of the trolling motor transducer?
Humminbird XTM 14 HW MDI T (710291-1)
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/22/19 09:33 PM
So, I have to purchase that $220 attach to the bottom of the trolling motor transducer?
Humminbird XTM 14 HW MDI T (710291-1)
You did state HELIX????? That is a SOLIX transducer.
It's simple, get the Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA DI+ GPS G3N.
It comes with the MDI+ transducer that fits a Helix MEGA DI+ unit.
Then get the Humminbird AD MTM HW MDI mount for it.
https://humminbird.johnsonoutdoors....i-mega-di-trolling-motor-adapter-bracket
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/22/19 09:40 PM
So, I have to purchase that $220 attach to the bottom of the trolling motor transducer?
Humminbird XTM 14 HW MDI T (710291-1)
The first few uses of the MEGA 360, I was using the 360 and MEGA 360 with dual Helix 12's.
I posted some screen shots on BBC in the Humminbird Image Interpretation threads.
That's a strong question with five question marks! Yeah, I have a Helix. I have the unit but I did not get a transducer. At the time I thought it would take a combination of a MEGA 360 plus a standard transducer (the US on the Ultrex). I am not an expert or even familiar with Humminbird, I am first time Humminbird user and a fool with enough money to buy these toys. I will have to purchase a trolling motor mounted transducer. It seems you are saying standard sonar and down imaging come from the same transducer and I don't need another transducer for sonar or imaging beyond those two. I think my Lowrance units use a thru hull standard transducer and the SI/DI transducer on the jack plate. I'm not familiar at all with the proper combination of transducers to run standard sonar and DI on a Humminbird but I will get it right. I was going to call Humminbird tech service tomorrow to ask the same questions. I don't know when the MEGA 360 will come off backorder. My Ultrex was on backorder for months before it was shipped. I can't even find the Y connectors in stock anywhere.
And thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/22/19 10:17 PM
That's a strong question with five question marks! Yeah, I have a Helix. I have the unit but I did not get a transducer. At the time I thought it would take a combination of a MEGA 360 plus a standard transducer (the US on the Ultrex). I am not an expert or even familiar with Humminbird, I am first time Humminbird user and a fool with enough money to buy these toys. I will have to purchase a trolling motor mounted transducer. It seems you are saying standard sonar and down imaging come from the same transducer and I don't need another transducer for sonar or imaging beyond those two. I think my Lowrance units use a thru hull standard transducer and the SI/DI transducer on the jack plate. I'm not familiar at all with the proper combination of transducers to run standard sonar and DI on a Humminbird but I will get it right. I was going to call Humminbird tech service tomorrow to ask the same questions. I don't know when the MEGA 360 will come off backorder. My Ultrex was on backorder for months before it was shipped. I can't even find the Y connectors in stock anywhere.
You do seem confused, now I understand.
Since you already have a Helix DI+ CHO, then get the XTM 9 HW MDI T transducer. It will include the trolling motor mount, two stainless steel hose clamps and a RFI choke for the battery charger lead if you have an on-board charger that does the trolling motor battery/s and the starting battery.
Humminbird transducers for Helix units have a 9 in the model name, transducers for SOLIX units have a 14 in the model name.
If you would have purchased the unit with transducer, it would include a transom transducer that does Down Imaging, HW CHIRP 2D sonar, and temp---then all you would need is the trolling motor adapter.
The Side Imaging version comes with a transducer that does Side Imaging, Down Imaging, HW CHIRP 2D sonar, and temp. Most that get either of those models for the console, also get a shoot-thru HW transducer for the bilge if their hull is suitable for a shoot-thru application.
The two transducers are connected to the display with a 2D splitter Y cable. That SI transducer is what Lowrance copied with their "triple shot" and "all-in-one" transducers. The Humminbird ONIX SI model was the first with the "all in one".
Next best would have been getting the Minnkota trolling motor with built-in MDI transducer instead of the US2.
With the MEGA 360, it connects to the unit's single transducer port, and takes the 9 M360 2DDI Y cable to connect another transducer with the MEGA 360 transducer to the unit's single transducer port.
If you get all the parts before the Y cable is available, you can still use the Helix adapter cable that comes with the MEGA 360 to at least do SI and MEGA 360. It comes with a SOLIX cable also.
The MEGA 360 works fine without another transducer, just need another one to have a depth readout of the MEGA 360 view.
A person in Finland has posted some MEGA 360 screen shots today so the first wave of units have gone out world-wide. Looks like he doesn't have the MEGA 360 Y cable either, can tell by the missing readouts on his screen shots.
First few times I used mine, it was just with the MEGA 360 connected to the G3N.
I just ordered the transducer from Humminbird. And as I looked at the array of choices on the page I can clearly see the DI in my case is also a dual spectrum CHIRP transducer. So I should be good to go albeit $260 poorer.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/22/19 10:35 PM
I just ordered the transducer from Humminbird. And as I looked at the array of choices on the page I can clearly see the DI in my case is also a dual spectrum CHIRP transducer. So I should be good to go albeit $260 poorer.
Good deal. The Dual Spectrum HW piezo is Low-Q CHIRP rated like an AIRMAR.
Dual Spectrum means the unit has settings to use the upper end or lower end of the CHIRP range or the whole CHIRP range of 140-240 kHz.
Prior units chirped the 83/200 kHz piezo in the transducers called Dual Beam, including the US2.
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird - 01/02/20 02:35 PM
Original software and Mega SI, front and back.
Update the software to 3.5. it's the latest. there has been software fixes for the erratic depth issues
Ok, thanks for the info!
That worked! Thanks again.
Posted By: Wubby
Re: Humminbird - 01/21/20 12:45 AM
I currently have a 998c si at the console linked to a terrova i-Pilot. I recently purchased a helix 7 sI gen3 for the bow. Is there a cable available to link the to units without the Ethernet switch.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/21/20 01:04 AM
I currently have a 998c si at the console linked to a terrova i-Pilot. I recently purchased a helix 7 sI gen3 for the bow. Is there a cable available to link the to units without the Ethernet switch.
IF the Helix 7 is a
G3N you can link them with an Ethernet cable and an Ethernet Adapter AS EC QDE on the Helix .
If it is the
G3, it cannot be linked with any method.
Posted By: Wubby
Re: Humminbird - 01/21/20 02:13 AM
Thanks for the info. I believe the Terrova is linked to the 998 with a Ethernet cable will the terrova and the helix link via Ethernet cables. Thanks in Advance
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/21/20 01:05 PM
Thanks for the info. I believe the Terrova is linked to the 998 with a Ethernet cable will the terrova and the helix link via Ethernet cables. Thanks in Advance
You state you "believe" the Terrova is linked to the 998, don't you know?
IF your Helix is a G3N, you can connect all three devices via Ethernet.
To do that you need the AS ETH 5PXG Ethernet Switch.
Each device would connect to the Switch with an Ethernet cable===total of three Ethernet cables.
Posted By: Texas Grown
Re: Humminbird - 01/25/20 01:19 AM
Just want to thank Wayne P. for all his insight. And a few others.
I've had the transducer and Y cable for Mega 360 on backorder for a while now. I ordered these items from Anchor Express which upon shipment saves perhaps $75 off the cost I've seen in several other sites and I don't have to pay sales tax (for a thousand dollar plus cost item). But my reason for posting is after being placed on backorder and seeing two delays in shipping at first from late December to early January and now delayed to late February, Anchor Express indicates there is a component problem with the system which is delaying shipment. So I'm assuming all of you who have ordered this system are seen similar delays. If not I don't really understand the delay. I was an early user of Ultrex and that sucker was put on backorder for months.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 02/02/20 04:53 PM
I've had the transducer and Y cable for Mega 360 on backorder for a while now. I ordered these items from Anchor Express which upon shipment saves perhaps $75 off the cost I've seen in several other sites and I don't have to pay sales tax (for a thousand dollar plus cost item). But my reason for posting is after being placed on backorder and seeing two delays in shipping at first from late December to early January and now delayed to late February, Anchor Express indicates there is a component problem with the system which is delaying shipment. So I'm assuming all of you who have ordered this system are seen similar delays. If not I don't really understand the delay. I was an early user of Ultrex and that sucker was put on backorder for months.
Yes there is/was an issue
getting parts. From what I have seen is distributors are getting some now.
When and from where you ordered would determine your ship date.
It works great:
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Posted By: Bigkracka
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/01/20 09:48 PM
Holy [censored] this is confusing. What would you recommend for a long time fisherman but new to all this? I have an Xpress boat on order with a Helix 7 and ipilot ultrex.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/01/20 11:29 PM
Holy [censored] this is confusing. What would you recommend for a long time fisherman but new to all this? I have an Xpress boat on order with a Helix 7 and ipilot ultrex.
PM sent with some suggestions
Posted By: LakeTylerMan
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/18/20 02:21 PM
My Mega 360 transducer has now been on back-order since November. Anybody getting these? I'm convinced it's tied to Chinese manufacturing.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/18/20 02:26 PM
My Mega 360 transducer has now been on back-order since November. Anybody getting these? I'm convinced it's tied to Chinese manufacturing.
Some have been getting them within the past few days.
Posted By: rhw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 04/04/20 03:50 PM
wayne p.im like the other guy above.new boat coming.what would you suggest.mostly crappie in south texas
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/11/20 02:01 AM
just got a 2020 express with helix 7 . took navionics plus out of my 899 and put it in the helix, its doesnt seem to let me do the depth offset or much of anything ?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/11/20 02:24 AM
Depth offset is for lakemaster map cards
Posted By: FishFearMe
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/11/20 02:45 AM
Depth offset is for lakemaster map cards
10-4 does it work on base map ?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/11/20 10:02 AM
Depth offset is for lakemaster map cards
10-4 does it work on base map ?
Water level offset only works with HD contours.
Depth Offset is an adjustment for the transducer depth, not map related.
Posted By: LUguy08
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/22/20 09:28 PM
I have had so many problems with this unit and have had to send it to Humminbird once already for a fix. Last week I was fishing, using the DI and working fine, then i made a run and when i stopped, the screen was black. Depth was reading fine, but no image. I went out yesterday and played with the settings and got the bottom back, but I am not getting clear images of pilons and brush and such. Can anyone relate, or help me with this problem? I started by resetting to default and got the same results. I had to change surface clutter and sharpness to get the bottom back. I want to be able to see fish, bait, and structure and am loathing sending it back to Humminbird for yet another problem.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/22/20 10:29 PM
I have had so many problems with this unit and have had to send it to Humminbird once already for a fix. Last week I was fishing, using the DI and working fine, then i made a run and when i stopped, the screen was black. Depth was reading fine, but no image. I went out yesterday and played with the settings and got the bottom back, but I am not getting clear images of pilons and brush and such. Can anyone relate, or help me with this problem? I started by resetting to default and got the same results. I had to change surface clutter and sharpness to get the bottom back. I want to be able to see fish, bait, and structure and am loathing sending it back to Humminbird for yet another problem.
Can't see what unit you have from here, how about describing it and how it is installed?
Posted By: LUguy08
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 05/23/20 02:38 AM
Sorry about that. I have the Helix 10 DI GPS g2n. It was factory installed when I bought the boat. I can provide more detail if needed. Just let me know if you need any other info.
Posted By: JCSHEPHE
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/03/20 02:05 AM
Just bought a boat with a brand new HELIX 5 G2 with down imaging. The owner never used it. It has probably been sitting in the box for 2 years.
Looks perfect for what I need fish finder wise, but no chartplotter / map.
Does Humminbird make one that will hook up to the same cords/input that has a chartplotter or map function? Or would I have to rewire any different unit?
HUGE THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 06/06/20 03:14 PM
Just bought a boat with a brand new HELIX 5 G2 with down imaging. The owner never used it. It has probably been sitting in the box for 2 years.
Looks perfect for what I need fish finder wise, but no chartplotter / map.
Does Humminbird make one that will hook up to the same cords/input that has a chartplotter or map function? Or would I have to rewire any different unit?
HUGE THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
Yes, same unit with GPS in the model name----Helix 5 CHIRP DI GPS G2
https://humminbird.johnsonoutdoors.com/fish-finders/helix/helix-5-chirp-di-gps-g2
Posted By: otrdriver2002
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/06/20 03:04 AM
Does anyone know If a 360mega will work on a 1198c until I can afford a Solix? Thx
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/06/20 04:08 AM
Does anyone know If a 360mega will work on a 1198c until I can afford a Solix? Thx
No it will not, has to be a mega + unit. The 1198 can't process mega frequencies , and the mega 360 connects as a transducer. The 1198 connected to the original 360 through Ethernet. The 1198 is not compatible with hardware or software. Although the mega 360 can ping the 455 khz the 1198 can't process the mega 360 as a tranaducer
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/07/20 07:14 PM
Guys I keep getting low voltage alarm on my Solix even when my battery is freshly charged. Any thoughts?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/07/20 07:46 PM
Guys I keep getting low voltage alarm on my Solix even when my battery is freshly charged. Any thoughts?
What does the voltage display on the unit read? What size wire and where is it connected to battery, fuse block, boat harness, boat main fuse panel. What is the voltage alarm set at? What software version, there was a software release that addressed voltage alarm issues
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/10/20 01:23 PM
I have the 3.5 update installed and the wiring is ran through the boat main fuse panel. I have a Phoenix boat and the wiring is not easily accessible to run new power cable to the battery. Voltage alarm is set at 10.5 but I have silenced the alarm. My GPS is slow to update sometimes and I thought that low voltage may be a contributor to this.
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/10/20 01:25 PM
Also, will the G2 transducer for a Solix work on a G1 Solix? I need to replace one and was thinking about buying the new transducer.
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/16/20 01:04 AM
Also, will the G2 transducer for a Solix work on a G1 Solix? I need to replace one and was thinking about buying the new transducer.
Low voltage does create GPS issues among other things but fps issues are usually the first sign. I think it would be worth your time to either add a dedicated fuse panel or wire straight back with 10 ga. Wire.
The 2 transducers are tuned different so no
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/17/20 08:17 PM
Thank you, sir, I will just run a dedicated wire for each graph. Maybe I can fish tape it through.
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/20 05:57 PM
Okay, running the individual power cables worked, however, the sonar is hanging up and will not continue updating. The mapping will still be updating and working fine and the sonar, DI, and SI will freeze up and not continue updating. Any ideas?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 08/31/20 08:35 PM
Okay, running the individual power cables worked, however, the sonar is hanging up and will not continue updating. The mapping will still be updating and working fine and the sonar, DI, and SI will freeze up and not continue updating. Any ideas?
Is your unit still under warranty? I would update to the 3.7 software
Posted By: Big Dawg
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/01/20 01:27 PM
Unit is 2 years old, so, I don't know about the warranty. I have downloaded the new update, I just need to install it on the unit. Maybe that will help. Thanks for the info!
Posted By: D.D.R.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/12/20 06:38 PM
I’m having issues with temperature readout on my Helix 10 Gen 3 Mega SI+. All of a sudden the reading was gone from my screen. I’ve searched the overlay reading list, reset defaults, it’s just gone! Any ideas on how to get those readings back on my screen?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/12/20 09:52 PM
I’m having issues with temperature readout on my Helix 10 Gen 3 Mega SI+. All of a sudden the reading was gone from my screen. I’ve searched the overlay reading list, reset defaults, it’s just gone! Any ideas on how to get those readings back on my screen?
Can't remember if it matters on the helix but check the user mode, make sure it's in advanced. Can also check hummingbird FAQ on this subject
https://www.humminbird.com/support/faqs/TempReading
Posted By: D.D.R.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/14/20 07:43 PM
Update - I searched through everything in the unit to get my temp reading back, nothing. I restored default settings, nothing. Called humminbird and was asked to update the software which in the description didn’t have anything to do with temp readings. I updated software and it fixed the issue. Now if this high dollar unit would link to my I pilot and automatically put me on the fish, I’d buy three more!
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/25/20 04:11 PM
Will a Helix 12 Chirp Mega Side imaging gn2 network with a helix 7 chirp gn2 plug and play? or is there going to have to be an update in software? and will the cable just hook directly from one unit to the other?
I plan on using the helix 12 as the primary source and just have the helix 7 show what the 12 is reading.
Thanks
Keith
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 09/25/20 05:07 PM
Will a Helix 12 Chirp Mega Side imaging gn2 network with a helix 7 chirp gn2 plug and play? or is there going to have to be an update in software? and will the cable just hook directly from one unit to the other?
I plan on using the helix 12 as the primary source and just have the helix 7 show what the 12 is reading.
Thanks
Keith
Yes they will share data but do it best if the software versions are the same or close.
Both need the AS EC QDE Ethernet Adapter, and then an Ethernet cable between them.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/02/20 05:53 PM
One more Question Wayne,
I got everything i need to hook my network up with the helix 7 gn2 chirp gps and my helix 12 mega SI chirp gps ( etc )
Should i restore defaults on each unit before i link them together? Or will they see each other with out restore?
Thanks again
Keith
Posted By: Justin B
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/04/20 02:24 PM
Posted By: Justin B
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/04/20 02:24 PM
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Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/04/20 02:51 PM
One more Question Wayne,
I got everything i need to hook my network up with the helix 7 gn2 chirp gps and my helix 12 mega SI chirp gps ( etc )
Should i restore defaults on each unit before i link them together? Or will they see each other with out restore?
Thanks again
Keith
Do not need to restore defaults for the Ethernet connection to work.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/04/20 02:52 PM
It could be the transducer or the processor. The only way to tell is test with another transducer.
Posted By: Justin B
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/04/20 03:45 PM
Hopefully I can test it this week. Thanks!
Posted By: Justin B
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/10/20 01:51 AM
So I was able to test another transducer and it worked. So my question is.... Is my XM 920 MSI T campatible with the XNT 9T Chirp Mega SI transducer?
Thank you
Posted By: z289sec
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/12/20 01:41 AM
Posted in the general section, but nobody had any ideas. Thought I would post here too. My Helix7 G3N was working the best it had ever worked last weekend, after changing some settings, I was actually able to start seeing fish on down and side. Then, Saturday morning I turned the unit on, and it would only display pages with maps, no 2D, no DI, no SI. Shut the unit down, and restarted, and all of my pages came back. My 2D sonar never showed anything at all in the entire water column, all day, and all night. Even with the sensitivity cranked up. I could see structure and what not, on down and side, but nothing, other than the bottom, on 2D. I even reset back to default settings, and still nothing. I was catching fish, but I never could see any on my 2D (which is my primary source for finding them) I have proper depth, and bottom contours, I have proper water temps, and proper speed. But nothing between the bottom and my transducer on 2D.
Doesn't make any sense at all to me.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/12/20 11:00 AM
Posted in the general section, but nobody had any ideas. Thought I would post here too. My Helix7 G3N was working the best it had ever worked last weekend, after changing some settings, I was actually able to start seeing fish on down and side. Then, Saturday morning I turned the unit on, and it would only display pages with maps, no 2D, no DI, no SI. Shut the unit down, and restarted, and all of my pages came back. My 2D sonar never showed anything at all in the entire water column, all day, and all night. Even with the sensitivity cranked up. I could see structure and what not, on down and side, but nothing, other than the bottom, on 2D. I even reset back to default settings, and still nothing. I was catching fish, but I never could see any on my 2D (which is my primary source for finding them) I have proper depth, and bottom contours, I have proper water temps, and proper speed. But nothing between the bottom and my transducer on 2D.
Doesn't make any sense at all to me.
1-800-633-1468
Posted By: z289sec
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/12/20 11:28 PM
Posted in the general section, but nobody had any ideas. Thought I would post here too. My Helix7 G3N was working the best it had ever worked last weekend, after changing some settings, I was actually able to start seeing fish on down and side. Then, Saturday morning I turned the unit on, and it would only display pages with maps, no 2D, no DI, no SI. Shut the unit down, and restarted, and all of my pages came back. My 2D sonar never showed anything at all in the entire water column, all day, and all night. Even with the sensitivity cranked up. I could see structure and what not, on down and side, but nothing, other than the bottom, on 2D. I even reset back to default settings, and still nothing. I was catching fish, but I never could see any on my 2D (which is my primary source for finding them) I have proper depth, and bottom contours, I have proper water temps, and proper speed. But nothing between the bottom and my transducer on 2D.
Doesn't make any sense at all to me.
1-800-633-1468
Already called them. Their only suggestion was update software. I don't see how that could possibly make it stop working one weekend, from the previous one, but I'll give it a shot.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 10/23/20 07:00 PM
Will a Helix 12 Chirp Mega Side imaging gn2 network with a helix 7 chirp gn2 plug and play? or is there going to have to be an update in software? and will the cable just hook directly from one unit to the other?
I plan on using the helix 12 as the primary source and just have the helix 7 show what the 12 is reading.
Thanks
Keith
Yes they will share data but do it best if the software versions are the same or close.
Both need the AS EC QDE Ethernet Adapter, and then an Ethernet cable between them.
Wayne just wanted to say THANKS and let you know that everything works like it should. Below are pics of the 12 mega and the 7 chirp. That 7 has an awesome clarity and detail. Thanks again
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/10/full-56282-70995-pic1.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/10/full-56282-70996-pic2.jpg)
Posted By: bass214
Re: Humminbird - 11/15/20 02:24 AM
Does anyone here own and use hummingbird 360 and how happy are you with it?
Posted By: Coolarrow
Re: Humminbird - 11/15/20 10:19 PM
Humminbird Helix 7 DI gps trolling motor interference. So I’ve watched YouTube videos on this issue and I see it’s common. I ran separate circuit from the battery to the bow graph. I grounded the head of the trolling motor. And I disconnected the three bank charger from the battery that feeds the graph. I’m still getting interference! Bad. As soon as I hit the button on the trolling motor which is a motor guide x3 the depth goes to 1100 feet and the screen turns red and yellow. Please help!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 11/16/20 01:31 PM
Does anyone here own and use hummingbird 360 and how happy are you with it?
I used the 360 for about 6 years and have used the MEGA 360 for about a year. The MEGA 360 is outstanding with near Side Imaging quality images.
Brush pile:
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/WpfYQr0F/S00004.png)
Bridge with SI and MEGA 360:
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/vTcmF1SG/S00098.png)
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/ZRYRHs8B/S00075.png)
Posted By: bass214
Re: Humminbird - 11/17/20 02:18 PM
Is it difficult to adjust?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 11/17/20 02:41 PM
Is it difficult to adjust?
No, you only "adjust it" if you need to.
Posted By: sbmcruise
Re: Humminbird - 11/27/20 03:31 PM
It looks like live imaging is coming to Humminbird March 2021:
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/11/full-1521-75716-humminbird_mega_live_imaging.png)
Posted By: otrdriver2002
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 11/28/20 03:56 AM
Thanks
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/07/20 10:32 PM
I have a Helix 12 Mega SI Chirp gps gn2 networked with a Helix 7 chirp gps ( a picture of them is above this a few posts ) And last saturday the side imaging on the linked units both had the left side fade almost to nothing. I tried to reset defaults, Power on and off, checked connections and checked voltage and nothing helped it. Does this sound like the left crystal in the mega transducer is going out? it did the same thing on 800mhz but not quite as bad as on MEGA SI. Just want some feed back or if i am missing something.
Keith
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/07/20 10:38 PM
I have a Helix 12 Mega SI Chirp gps gn2 networked with a Helix 7 chirp gps ( a picture of them is above this a few posts ) And last saturday the side imaging on the linked units both had the left side fade almost to nothing. I tried to reset defaults, Power on and off, checked connections and checked voltage and nothing helped it. Does this sound like the left crystal in the mega transducer is going out? it did the same thing on 800mhz but not quite as bad as on MEGA SI. Just want some feed back or if i am missing something.
Keith
Good guess, checking the lower frequency is a good test of a weak piezo.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/07/20 10:39 PM
That's what i thought. Thanks Wayne. I will get a new transducer .
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/15/20 01:17 AM
Okay. The new Transducer did not fix the problem of my left side imaging fading . In fact now i have lost both sides of side imaging on all frequencies. I read there is an update. Do you think this will fix the problem? or am i going to have to send it to HB
Helix 12 MEGA SI Chirp gps. Linked with a Helix 7 CHIRP gps. BOTH Gn2
Do you think that linking the new Helix 7 has caused the helix 12 to lose my side imaging? Down, 2d and gps still work great.
Thank you
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/16/20 12:07 AM
I finally talked tech support and since i have never updated my software they told me that the update should fix the side imaging problem. We will see
Posted By: randfish
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/19/20 05:17 AM
My Helix 10 did the same thing on the left side and Humminbird support repaired the circuit board.
Posted By: PlanoKeith
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 12/23/20 02:11 PM
My Helix 10 did the same thing on the left side and Humminbird support repaired the circuit board.
Thanks for the info randfish.
Well after new transducer, software update they finally told me to send it in. So at least it will be fixed.
Here are pics of all three frequencies after the software update. My sensitivity was at 10. But i was n the marina and usually i see all the poles around the boat slips and docks. I turned the sensitivity up to 20 and still nothing.
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/12/full-56282-78500-img_1025.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/12/full-56282-78501-img_1027.jpg)
![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/12/full-56282-78502-img_1029.jpg)
Posted By: cliffshot
Re: Humminbird - 12/30/20 05:41 PM
What Transducers will work with a Helix 9 G2 Chirp unit?
I have a Helix 7DI GN2 XNT 9 DI transducer. Will it work on a Helix9 GN2 Chirp unit?
Thanks for the help.
cliffshot
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 12/30/20 06:07 PM
It will work but you will only get 2d since your helix 9 is a sonar/gps unit
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 12/30/20 06:11 PM
What Transducers will work with a Helix 9 G2 Chirp unit?
I have a Helix 7DI GN2 XNT 9 DI transducer. Will it work on a Helix9 GN2 Chirp unit?
Thanks for the help.
cliffshot
A CHIRP unit has 2D sonar ONLY, you can't add Down Imaging to it by connecting a Down Imaging transducer.
The standard 2D frequency for the Helix 7 CHIRP DI GPS G2N is 200/455 kHz, that is the 2D piezo in the DI transducer.
The standard 2D frequency for the Helix 9 CHIRP GPS G2N is 83/200 kHz.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/13/21 12:55 PM
Good morning Wayne,
Bought a used boat last week with a Gen2 Helix 9 chirp SI/GPS at the console, and a Gen 2 Helix 10x chirp DI/GPS on the bow. Transducer on the back of hull has a crack in it and not working properly. (Won't read bottom consistently) Probably going to upgrade to a 12" unit eventually at the console. What transducer will work with my current Gen 2's and also match up with a newer gen4 units like a Solix, etc? Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/13/21 02:42 PM
Good morning Wayne,
Bought a used boat last week with a Gen2 Helix 9 chirp SI/GPS at the console, and a Gen 2 Helix 10x chirp DI/GPS on the bow. Transducer on the back of hull has a crack in it and not working properly. (Won't read bottom consistently) Probably going to upgrade to a 12" unit eventually at the console. What transducer will work with my current Gen 2's and also match up with a newer gen4 units like a Solix, etc? Thanks!
None unless you want to get a Helix gen2 transducer and dumb down a new unit to the Helix G2N level.
Helix third and forth generation units have HW CHIRP as standard for 2D sonar.
SOLIX second and third generation units have HW CHIRP as standard for 2D sonar.
Older units have 83/200 kHz as standard for 2D sonar.
There is no gen4 SOLIX, the gen 3's are just coming out.
A SOLIX unit has a 14-pin transducer connection.
A Helix unit has a 7-pin transducer connection.
They are not interchangeable.
You can adapt a SOLIX transducer to work with a Helix by using the Minnkota built-in transducer adapter MKR-MI-1.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/13/21 07:29 PM
I guess for the moment I'll just get the Gen2 transducer. What model transducer would that be? Best place and price to buy? Thanks Wayne! You're always a great resource!!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/13/21 08:07 PM
I guess for the moment I'll just get the Gen2 transducer. What model transducer would that be? Best place and price to buy? Thanks Wayne! You're always a great resource!!
This is the G2N MEGA SI transducer. Do a web search for that model. Since it is discontinued, you will see a wide range of prices.
https://humminbird.johnsonoutdoors....ransom-helix-mega-si-mega-di-transducer.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/14/21 12:32 PM
Thanks Wayne.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/14/21 07:56 PM
One last question. Does the G2N Mega SI also do down imaging? Thanks!
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/14/21 08:08 PM
One last question. Does the G2N Mega SI also do down imaging? Thanks!
That would be a Helix 9, Helix 10, or Helix 12 to be G2N and have MEGA SI. Yes those SI units have dedicated Down Imaging from a Down Imaging piezo in the SI transducer.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/14/21 08:09 PM
One last question. Does the G2N Mega SI also do down imaging? Thanks!
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/14/21 08:10 PM
Cool man...thanks so much!
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 02:19 AM
Hey Wayne. Found the transducer. Current one has 2 wires coming off the back of the unit but one entering the transducer. New one is single line all the way. What do you think is the deal?
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 02:21 AM
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 02:28 AM
Hey Wayne. Found the transducer. Current one has 2 wires coming off the back of the unit but one entering the transducer. New one is single line all the way. What do you think is the deal?
It has the y splitter cable. Your getting si/ di from the si ducer and getting 2d from a shoot thru in the bilge area most likely unless you have another transom mount ducer somewhere
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 03:11 AM
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[quote=fivebites]Hey Wayne. Found the transducer. Current one has 2 wires coming off the back of the unit but one entering the transducer. New one is single line all the way. What do you think is the deal?
It has the y splitter cable. Your getting si/ di from the si ducer and getting 2d from a shoot thru in the bilge area most likely unless you have another transom mount ducer somewhere
Dang, so this transducer won't shoot 2d? there's not another transom mount so it's gotta be in the hull somewhere. I'll have to yank out batteries to see. Thanks Diesel. Since it a splitter is there a way to still use this ducer and a splitter to run both?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 03:18 AM
Hey Wayne. Found the transducer. Current one has 2 wires coming off the back of the unit but one entering the transducer. New one is single line all the way. What do you think is the deal?
It has the y splitter cable. Your getting si/ di from the si ducer and getting 2d from a shoot thru in the bilge area most likely unless you have another transom mount ducer somewhere
Dang, so this transducer won't shoot 2d? there's not another transom mount so it's gotta be in the hull somewhere. I'll have to yank out batteries to see. Thanks Diesel. Since it a splitter is there a way to still use this ducer and a splitter to run both?
It will do 2d just plug it directly to the unit if that's what you want or disconnect the old si ducer from the y splitter cable and connect the new transducer to it,
Most guys use the splitter cause it can be difficult to get on plane 2d depth readings from the si ducer and you can mount the si ducer higher for a little more protection from damage
All the splitter cables does it disables the 2d element in the si ducer so you can use a separate 2d ducer. Temp readings will come from the si ducer
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 02:21 PM
Cool. Thanks Diesel. Old ducer is shot. Cracked and reading crazy numbers all over the board.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 01/16/21 08:38 PM
A shoot-thru transducer has two or three pins in the plug. That would be connected to the smallest cable on the Y cable that has Dual Beam on a tag.
The transducer in the picture is the Side Imaging one and would connect to the largest cable on the Y cable.
Also the shoot-thru needs to match the SI transducer. Older shoot-thru transducers are 83/200 kHz and the MEGA SI+ is HW CHIRP 2D sonar.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 01/28/21 02:27 AM
Any of you guys have a good number for Jsplinter that started the first post on this thread? Sent him a pm but hasn't seen it yet. Is he still on here?
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 02/01/21 11:05 PM
Wayne, I hate to keep coming to the well but you and Diesel are the best sources I have. I got the transducer working but I think I'm going to a 12" at the console. So currently running a Gen 2 Chirp DI/GPS Helix 10 at the bow and Gen 2 Chirp SI Helix 9 at the console. I'm eventually adding either a Livescope or 360 to the bow, but for now am buying a 12" (possibly 15") for the console. So questions are as follows:
1) will the thru hull transducer currently used for the Gen2's work with Gen 3 or 4's? If not do the new units come with transom AND thru hull transducers?
2) If I have to switch to any of these will they still network with the Gen 2 10 up front?
3) Best bang for the buck unit for down and side imaging on the 12"/15" I'm shopping for?
Thanks to you both!
Randy
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 02/08/21 04:14 PM
Anyone know the answers to the three questions above?
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 02/08/21 06:43 PM
Anyone know the answers to the three questions above?
1. No, and No. The standard 2D frequency for third and fourth generation Helix units is HW CHIRP.
2. Yes if the unit operating software is current.
3. The G4N's are selling as fast as dealers can get them. There has been a shortage of units since Spring 2020 due to that COVID thing--good luck finding any G3N models. So your bang will mostly likely be MSRP. You can see what the MSRP is for all current models is on the Humminbird website.
Posted By: fivebites
Re: Humminbird - 02/08/21 06:48 PM
Thanks Wayne!
Posted By: bnw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/21 02:31 AM
Need help- when I find a brush pile on my side imaging and mark it, what is the easiest way to get back on that pile?
I have a riptide ulterra trolling mtr that is linked in, normally i would go back to my gps scroll over to the spot i marked and hit GO TO,after that whats next?
Hope this makes since
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/21 02:39 AM
Turn on the prop and it should take you straight to it, you should have a distance to go displayed and it should decrease as you get closer
Posted By: bnw
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 07/07/21 01:48 PM
CAN I MARK THAT PILE ON THE SIDESCAN AND THEN HIT GO TO ? THEN TURN THE PROP ON AFTER I HIT GO TO
Hey all, I have a Helix 7 Gen 3 with Mega SI. When I set the SI range to Auto, it does not change regardless of depth or distance to the shore. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the help!
Posted By: Chasin Hogs
Re: Humminbird - 09/02/21 06:36 PM
So the amp draw on the helix 15 is 4 and the 12 is 1.75? Or did I get
bad info.
Trying to find a reason to get a 15. I could get 2 12s and use less amps
with better quality picture?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 09/02/21 09:42 PM
So the amp draw on the helix 15 is 4 and the 12 is 1.75? Or did I get
bad info.
Trying to find a reason to get a 15. I could get 2 12s and use less amps
with better quality picture?
HELIX 12 GEN 4 SI is 3.2 amp draw
Posted By: Chasin Hogs
Re: Humminbird - 09/03/21 03:11 AM
Thanks diesel.
Posted By: isaacfisher
Re: Humminbird - 09/16/21 02:15 PM
They have just released a new update this morning. Software Update - v. 2.660. It looks like it is ready for the MEGA Image device. I have updated my unit successfully.
https://www.humminbird.com/support/software-updates
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 09/16/21 10:07 PM
Posted By: Coolarrow
Re: Humminbird - 09/29/21 07:19 PM
Guys I have a quick question. I have a new Ultrex 80 mega DI I pilot link. I have it all hooked it to my new Hummingbird Helix 8 mega DI Gen4. I bought the needed adapter for the transducer and I have the Ethernet cable plugged in as well. I can operate the trolling motor via the Helix, it’s awesome. Can you tell me which transducer I’m supposed to select when operating this setup? The one that popped up factory when I first put it on the boat and tried it had very poor images on the DI setting. I switched to another option on the transducer select on the graph and it got better but nothing like I see pictures of on other guys graphs. Mine are kinda grainy. I just want to know which setting i need to be on. I’ve looked but I can’t find the setup. Thanks In advance.
Posted By: Chasin Hogs
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/21 07:03 PM
I have another dumb question.
When I pull up the 360 to move I get a notification on the unit
at console. One either says 360 lost? Yes or no? Or it says
retract 360? Yes or no. It also causes the unit to switch views at console.
If I have it on SI it could go to 2d without me hitting any buttons.
Posted By: Wayne P.
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/21 08:55 PM
I have another dumb question.
When I pull up the 360 to move I get a notification on the unit
at console. One either says 360 lost? Yes or no? Or it says
retract 360? Yes or no. It also causes the unit to switch views at console.
If I have it on SI it could go to 2d without me hitting any buttons.
The MEGA 360 has a wet switch that turns it off when it is not submerged so you should get some notification it is off/lost and would only do that if your console unit has it selected to be a source in the Network menu.
The Yes or No is asking if you want to turn it OFF.
The Retract 360 concerns the original 360 transom mount version and should not be a message IF you have current software.
Posted By: Chasin Hogs
Re: Humminbird - 10/04/21 09:49 PM
Thanks Wayne!
Posted By: pil,b
Re: Humminbird - 10/10/21 03:00 PM
HB 898 getting power when turned on but nothing on screen, it did one time but after turning off and back on shows only power. Is it time for the dumpster ?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 10/10/21 03:22 PM
If you have any map cards in it, try removing them before powering up, if that doesn't work then most likely it's time to upgrade
Finally watched a video after taking my mega live out on how to clear interference and feel silly. My brain said sensitivity high and contract low would clear it but uts the opposite. Now looks great
Posted By: SRitchey
Re: Humminbird SONAR - 03/28/22 04:17 PM
Humminbird Helix Sonar Manuals fresh from the printer!!
I have received Sonar class requests as far away as Kentucky and have had students drive in from Louisiana and Oklahoma. The response has been overwhelming to my classes and I have really enjoyed seeing anglers excitement when things come together and they gain the skills to interpret their sonars. Not every angler that has contacted me has been able to trailer in to take my class, so I have written a manual for anglers.
It is a Humminbird Helix manual designed for anglers. The manual is 7 Chapters and 60 single-sided 8.5" by 11" pages with black & white and color images. The manual goes through every tab in the Helix Menu and into detail about specific settings and why I recommend those settings.
GPS and mapping, Helix Tabs and settings, Basic Sonar Shapes, a chapter dedicated to sonar interpretation, and understanding the 2-Dimensional image compression of a 3-Dimensional environment. Chapters using real sonar screens with explanations and interpretations to help you learn to better your skills at reading echo returns and included are practice screen shots.
There is a chapter that goes into Side and Down Imaging also. To give you a better understanding and explanation of what the screen can show you and how to read it.
This manual is designed be more user friendly and help anglers get more from their Sonar/Chartplotters and less technical than the supplied manuals that accompanied your units. In order to get the most benefit, I recommend using both together. For topics that you want the more information on, refer to the owner's manual to get technical specifics about a particular setting or feature.
The first 40 sold will be $40 and will include the cost of the manual, sales tax and shipping in the US. The printer is working on these right now and should be done in the next week. I am taking advance orders now you can pay by check or paypal friends/family. Please send me a PM here and I will follow up with you.
Thanks - Craig
Do you still have these available? I have 2 Helix 10 G2N Mega units and would be interested in getting one if they are covered in your
manual. Thanks - Steve
Posted By: Goosehill77
Re: Humminbird - 04/08/22 07:41 PM
I updated my HELIX 12 GEN 4 SI to latest update and now I do not have SI or some other pages that I previously had prior to updating unit. Any ideas how to remedy this?
I have a Helix 9 Chirp SI GPS G2N unit. My side imaging does not work. It shows the center line with the boat on the top of the screen but nothing to the right or left side of the screen. I have put the unit back to factory defaults but that didn't change a thing. I don't know if my issue is the transom mounted transducer or the head unit. All of my other options (chirp, DI, mapping) work perfect. I live between Dallas and Tyler on Cedar Creek lake. Is there a Humminbird person that I can contact for help with this issue?
Posted By: Bflan19
Re: Humminbird - 04/21/22 06:48 PM
Anyone purchased anything from
www.factoryoutletstore.com before? I'm looking to upgrade my graphs, and they show to have it in stock, but wasn't sure about the sites legitimacy. Thank you
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 04/22/22 02:41 AM
Their site is legitimate but they are in no way affiliated with humminbird. Customer service is kinda hit or miss with them
Posted By: Bflan19
Re: Humminbird - 04/23/22 04:05 AM
Thank you!!!
Posted By: Capt BB
Re: Humminbird - 05/19/22 12:05 AM
Hey Humminbird gurus, I'm having issues with my Solix 15. First, my SI recently started to only show a small strip of data on the port side and extremely dim. The starboard side is completely normal. Second, the detail on my DI and sonar have diminished from when they were new. I can see the bottom just fine but fish and structure detail is missing. Does this sound like a transducer problem? Humminbird wants $819 to test my graph. My graph is just out of warranty. Anybody have these problems?
Posted By: 44 Diesel
Re: Humminbird - 05/19/22 12:48 AM
Hey Humminbird gurus, I'm having issues with my Solix 15. First, my SI recently started to only show a small strip of data on the port side and extremely dim. The starboard side is completely normal. Second, the detail on my DI and sonar have diminished from when they were new. I can see the bottom just fine but fish and structure detail is missing. Does this sound like a transducer problem? Humminbird wants $819 to test my graph. My graph is just out of warranty. Anybody have these problems?
Sounds like transducer issue, if you can find someone with another solix would be the best and easiest way to diagnose. You can try restoring defaults but that may be a longshot
Posted By: Capt BB
Re: Humminbird - 05/19/22 01:22 AM
Thanks 44. Good idea.
Posted By: insaned74
Re: Humminbird - 05/30/22 10:20 PM
I have a Hummingbird Tracker Pro angler on a 2000 Bass Tracker. It was in simulation mode yesterday and I couldn't clear it, clue?
Posted By: ReelSlow
Helix shallow water depth readings - 01/29/23 02:44 PM
edit.... found depth offset in menu
Posted By: CHAMPION FISH
Re: Helix shallow water depth readings - 03/16/23 03:34 PM
I have 2 Humminbird Gen 3’s on my boat and getting ready to purchase the 360 imaging unit. I have heard this unit draws a lot of battery power. The guys that are using the 360 imaging, do you have a dedicated battery just for that unit only, or am I getting wrong information?
Posted By: bifflebug60
Re: Helix shallow water depth readings - 03/27/23 09:20 PM
I have the same question as Champion Fish does regarding a separate power source for the mega 360. Along with many other questions. I too want to upgrade to the 360. I'm currently running a helix 7 si gps g2n on the bow and a helix 7 chirp gps g3 at the console. Looking at a helix 10 or possibly 12 and a mega 360 transducer. Would like to link to tne 7 g2n.
I have a terrova trolling motor with 2d sonar so I would need a universal mount of some sort for the 360 transducer.
What would be better, mounting new unit at the bow and possibly moving the 7 g2n to the console (using one strictly for mapping and the other for sonar)? Or mounting new unit at the console and linking with the 7 g2n up front? If I could afford two new units I know that would be the best solution, just can't swing the right now. Is either option I've listed a viable one? Also this is my first post, been a lurker for many years. Thanks y'all!
Posted By: Greg W
Re: Helix shallow water depth readings - 02/09/24 08:23 PM
Weird question but here goes. I have a Hellix 10 Gen 3 SI at the console and Helix 10 Gen 3 DI at the bow. That's the way both are labeled. One at the bow I use the built in DI transducer of the TM. Everything is fine. Now here's the weird part. I can take that DI labeled head unit and put it on the connector at the console using the larger SI transducer. And side imaging works fine. So my question is are these head units really different, or do they just ship one head until with a different transducer. I'm about to finally upgrade my firmware and was wondering if upgrading the front graph to the DI firmware will cause any issues if it's really an SI head unit.
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