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Slip cork time!?!

Posted By: HumanSeine

Slip cork time!?! - 03/06/17 10:10 AM

I have not been catfishing in over a week so I am guessing from the bite on my last trip that the fish may be in slip corking time. I struggle somewhat with my slipcork fishing and miss loads of fish while using the technique. I think my problem is that I am an over achiever in seeing the bite quickly and setting the hook too quickly. Don't get me wrong I do catch fish during this time and love to fish this way. I am considering using a softer tip rod on two of my rigs for slip corking this year to see if a rod change might help with my personal results? So last week when I was fishing I got bit at 30 and 20 feet deep with the twenty being more good. I did not get my usual number of bites at all so I did some math in my head and said the fish may be in transition between where and there. So my plan next trip is to try there first and work my way back to where. I realize this may sound confusing but I am sure this might sound familiar to regular catfish fishermen. It is just a plain thrill for me to watch the cork start moving when I am fishing with my Stubby cheese bait. Because Stubbys bait is amazing but it usually does not swim without a fish getting to it lol. Now I do own 10 medium heavy pro angler rods and they are in fact great. I plan to hit academy and pick me a couple of the clearance big yellow rods to do my slipcorking with. I realize that I could also use a different line for the same effect but I don't like to remove my braid for anything. Now when you catch a catfish at Fork it is a fact that he will find a log to wrap up with so the security with the braid is needed in my opinion. Heck I might even try some mono on one of my more soft rods to see if the adjustments help my results. Now since I was a bass fisherman for many years I am aware that small changes in equipment can yield big dividends in fish. So I would be curious in what most of you use for your slip cork fishing?
Posted By: WillieRip

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/06/17 12:05 PM

Slip cork time is coming.
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Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/06/17 12:51 PM

Ok willie nice slip bobber commercial. I did get from the video that they are using much lighter tackle than I. I am thinking going to a more flexible rod might be my answer. Now I do not see switching to 6 pound line because I fish in serious grass and logs at Lake Fork and also catch much larger catfish mainly than the ones in the video. Now if the small ones bite I catch them also. I always carry something to remove hooks. I have a mount in two spots in my boat with pliers for that purpose.

Posted By: WillieRip

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/06/17 01:03 PM

hehe! I don't even use rod and reel any more. I handline only now, but people still buy these from me.

Still with rod and reel I like a light rod like a 7wt fly rod blank made into a spinning rod, 9 wt at the most. At least in my waters these channels aren't much bigger the big bluegill I catch. With the channels in my waters, you just don't need much backbone in a rod.

To me channel catfish is a panfish. It's more like fishing for trout than you'd expect.
Posted By: Big Zee

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/06/17 02:18 PM

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Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: HumanSeine
I have not been catfishing in over a week so I am guessing from the bite on my last trip that the fish may be in slip corking time. I struggle somewhat with my slipcork fishing and miss loads of fish while using the technique. I think my problem is that I am an over achiever in seeing the bite quickly and setting the hook too quickly. Don't get me wrong I do catch fish during this time and love to fish this way. I am considering using a softer tip rod on two of my rigs for slip corking this year to see if a rod change might help with my personal results? So last week when I was fishing I got bit at 30 and 20 feet deep with the twenty being more good. I did not get my usual number of bites at all so I did some math in my head and said the fish may be in transition between where and there. So my plan next trip is to try there first and work my way back to where. I realize this may sound confusing but I am sure this might sound familiar to regular catfish fishermen. It is just a plain thrill for me to watch the cork start moving when I am fishing with my Stubby cheese bait. Because Stubbys bait is amazing but it usually does not swim without a fish getting to it lol. Now I do own 10 medium heavy pro angler rods and they are in fact great. I plan to hit academy and pick me a couple of the clearance big yellow rods to do my slipcorking with. I realize that I could also use a different line for the same effect but I don't like to remove my braid for anything. Now when you catch a catfish at Fork it is a fact that he will find a log to wrap up with so the security with the braid is needed in my opinion. Heck I might even try some mono on one of my more soft rods to see if the adjustments help my results. Now since I was a bass fisherman for many years I am aware that small changes in equipment can yield big dividends in fish. So I would be curious in what most of you use for your slip cork fishing?


7ft medium-medium heavy spinning rod, a crankbait rod would be ideal. 8(if your brave lol)-14lb test mono or fluro (i'd avoid braid for any slipcork methods. An even better rod would be a salmon rod 8-9 1/2ft in length, like this one. http://www.basspro.com/Browning-Fishing-Six-Rivers-2Piece-Spinning-Rod/product/1406130906242/
Posted By: BrianTx01

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 01:29 PM

I think any medium fishing rod is good for channels. The key is to watch the float and not the rod tip.
Posted By: scott01

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CoC Angler
Originally Posted By: HumanSeine
I have not been catfishing in over a week so I am guessing from the bite on my last trip that the fish may be in slip corking time. I struggle somewhat with my slipcork fishing and miss loads of fish while using the technique. I think my problem is that I am an over achiever in seeing the bite quickly and setting the hook too quickly. Don't get me wrong I do catch fish during this time and love to fish this way. I am considering using a softer tip rod on two of my rigs for slip corking this year to see if a rod change might help with my personal results? So last week when I was fishing I got bit at 30 and 20 feet deep with the twenty being more good. I did not get my usual number of bites at all so I did some math in my head and said the fish may be in transition between where and there. So my plan next trip is to try there first and work my way back to where. I realize this may sound confusing but I am sure this might sound familiar to regular catfish fishermen. It is just a plain thrill for me to watch the cork start moving when I am fishing with my Stubby cheese bait. Because Stubbys bait is amazing but it usually does not swim without a fish getting to it lol. Now I do own 10 medium heavy pro angler rods and they are in fact great. I plan to hit academy and pick me a couple of the clearance big yellow rods to do my slipcorking with. I realize that I could also use a different line for the same effect but I don't like to remove my braid for anything. Now when you catch a catfish at Fork it is a fact that he will find a log to wrap up with so the security with the braid is needed in my opinion. Heck I might even try some mono on one of my more soft rods to see if the adjustments help my results. Now since I was a bass fisherman for many years I am aware that small changes in equipment can yield big dividends in fish. So I would be curious in what most of you use for your slip cork fishing?


7ft medium-medium heavy spinning rod, a crankbait rod would be ideal. 8(if your brave lol)-14lb test mono or fluro (i'd avoid braid for any slipcork methods. An even better rod would be a salmon rod 8-9 1/2ft in length, like this one. http://www.basspro.com/Browning-Fishing-Six-Rivers-2Piece-Spinning-Rod/product/1406130906242/


Curious as to why you would avoid braid for slip corks? For me personally, it works great. As I mentioned earlier the line floats so it's much easier to stay in contact with you cork vs mono which sinks. Of course, if the slip cork bite is on good, anything will work and you normally get bit almost immediately when the bait sinks and the cork sits up, lol. But, if the bite is slower mono sinks and creates more slack in the line that has to be taken up before setting the hook. I've even had the mono get hung around rocks when it sinks which creates more issues. If you're concerned about catfish seeing the line, you can always use a 6"-12" mono or fluoro leader. But really, 20 ln braid has the diameter of 6 lb mono so it's small and the lakes around here aren't so clear that line is an issue. Anyway, just interested in others opinions. Thx
Posted By: Toes-in-tha-water

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 07:01 PM

I've never fished this way for catfish. How do you know when 'it's time'?
Posted By: scott01

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 08:11 PM

When the channel cats stack up in 1'-4' of water on rocks or windblown banks. smile For me, in the DFW area, it seems to always be around the first of May but water temp is the key, typically about 70 degrees and up so it could be a little sooner.
Posted By: Coreywms

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/08/17 09:14 PM

I've been using the CJ's Bait slip corks. You can see them in action on their website. www.CJsBait.com
Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/09/17 12:28 PM

It is time to slipcork fish when the fish are shallow. This occurs thruout the year but in spring it is common. Now on windy days I have found slipcorking is a better way to catch fish. I have decided that I am going to order me some corks from Blackwarriorlures.com. Now I do respect willierip for having his own business making the corks and after checking his website learned that he has quit his job to pursue this. Now you got to be committed to do this and he must know he has a good product which I have no doubt that he does. I just really enjoy catching all kinds of fish slipcork fishing. It adds to the thrill for me to watch my cork.
Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/11/17 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: scott01
Originally Posted By: CoC Angler
Originally Posted By: HumanSeine
I have not been catfishing in over a week so I am guessing from the bite on my last trip that the fish may be in slip corking time. I struggle somewhat with my slipcork fishing and miss loads of fish while using the technique. I think my problem is that I am an over achiever in seeing the bite quickly and setting the hook too quickly. Don't get me wrong I do catch fish during this time and love to fish this way. I am considering using a softer tip rod on two of my rigs for slip corking this year to see if a rod change might help with my personal results? So last week when I was fishing I got bit at 30 and 20 feet deep with the twenty being more good. I did not get my usual number of bites at all so I did some math in my head and said the fish may be in transition between where and there. So my plan next trip is to try there first and work my way back to where. I realize this may sound confusing but I am sure this might sound familiar to regular catfish fishermen. It is just a plain thrill for me to watch the cork start moving when I am fishing with my Stubby cheese bait. Because Stubbys bait is amazing but it usually does not swim without a fish getting to it lol. Now I do own 10 medium heavy pro angler rods and they are in fact great. I plan to hit academy and pick me a couple of the clearance big yellow rods to do my slipcorking with. I realize that I could also use a different line for the same effect but I don't like to remove my braid for anything. Now when you catch a catfish at Fork it is a fact that he will find a log to wrap up with so the security with the braid is needed in my opinion. Heck I might even try some mono on one of my more soft rods to see if the adjustments help my results. Now since I was a bass fisherman for many years I am aware that small changes in equipment can yield big dividends in fish. So I would be curious in what most of you use for your slip cork fishing?


7ft medium-medium heavy spinning rod, a crankbait rod would be ideal. 8(if your brave lol)-14lb test mono or fluro (i'd avoid braid for any slipcork methods. An even better rod would be a salmon rod 8-9 1/2ft in length, like this one. http://www.basspro.com/Browning-Fishing-Six-Rivers-2Piece-Spinning-Rod/product/1406130906242/


Curious as to why you would avoid braid for slip corks? For me personally, it works great. As I mentioned earlier the line floats so it's much easier to stay in contact with you cork vs mono which sinks. Of course, if the slip cork bite is on good, anything will work and you normally get bit almost immediately when the bait sinks and the cork sits up, lol. But, if the bite is slower mono sinks and creates more slack in the line that has to be taken up before setting the hook. I've even had the mono get hung around rocks when it sinks which creates more issues. If you're concerned about catfish seeing the line, you can always use a 6"-12" mono or fluoro leader. But really, 20 ln braid has the diameter of 6 lb mono so it's small and the lakes around here aren't so clear that line is an issue. Anyway, just interested in others opinions. Thx


I've had problems with getting the stopper to stay in place when using anything under 30lb braid. I always make sure to pull the knot tight when putting the stopper on, and it would work fine for the first 4 or 5 casts, but once the braid got good and wet i found the stopper would slip easily (too easily for my taste). IDK if its the slickness of the braid or what, but slip stoppers work better for me on mono or flurocarbon. I do love to use braid if im tight lining for channels with puchbait. in that instance all it takes is a small split shot to get you to your right depth and your set lol.
Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/11/17 09:55 AM

also, slip corking is not only for the shallow bite. I've had success on cedar creek and fork and hubbard fishing slip corks near bridge pilings and timber in 15-30ft of water keeping my bait suspended 1-3 ft off the bottom.
Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/11/17 12:36 PM

Now you deep water cork fishermen are not supposed to let everyone know to fish that way. So someone let the cat out deep corking is a very good fishing technique. In early spring I fish with goldfish for catfish on deep water corks. Some big catfish bite the goldfish. Now an occasional green fish will bite goldfish also. I also get an occasional bite from a friendly gar or mud fish. I really enjoy my early goldfish time. Now CJ makes some very good corks for the deep water goldfish fishing. I really like his corks because you can cast them into the wind well. As most of you know the wind does blow at Lake Fork. Now I do fish prepared bait on the corks a bunch and it narrows the variety of fish that You catch. I am not a Cajun so I do not eat mud fish or gar but they are great fun to catch. I suggest some well working pliers for hook removal on the gar bites.
Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/11/17 12:47 PM

Now I use mono most times for deep corking because of the slip knot issue that Coc mentioned above. I did not realize that folks use the deep bobbers because most guys I fish with seem amazed when I beak out my deep water slip bobber rod. Now catfish are not shy but at times I think fishing out some space from the boat increases catch rate at times. So yes I do fish slipcorks long and often in deep water. It is just a thrill to watch a cork . If I am fishing multiple rods I will use the corks. You miss fewer fish with them and there is no guess when you get bit.
Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/11/17 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: HumanSeine
Now I use mono most times for deep corking because of the slip knot issue that Coc mentioned above. I did not realize that folks use the deep bobbers because most guys I fish with seem amazed when I beak out my deep water slip bobber rod. Now catfish are not shy but at times I think fishing out some space from the boat increases catch rate at times. So yes I do fish slipcorks long and often in deep water. It is just a thrill to watch a cork . If I am fishing multiple rods I will use the corks. You miss fewer fish with them and there is no guess when you get bit.



You are exactly correct. My apologies for letting the cat out of the bag.
Posted By: Wildman of the navidad

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/12/17 02:42 AM

I normally use slipcorks for fishing live bait in heavy cover longjams and rockbanks for fathead love seeing the float just disappear
Posted By: 1Tacklehoarder

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/12/17 04:45 AM

What kind of hook and bait do you like to use in log jams?
Posted By: WillieRip

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/12/17 04:46 AM

Slip corking is much like watching a fish take a dry fly as in fly fishing.
Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/13/17 12:11 PM

Ok there are two reasons I avoid braid for slipcorking. One: bobber stop knot slides two: braid gives the fish less time to get the bait because of no stretch in line. Now when I see a bite I set the hook very quickly and often jerk the hook away from fish before they have it good. It is a problem with me only probably. Now I can tell you that almost anyone catches more fish than I while we are slip bobber fishing. So I can break out my grungy ol d fiberglass rod with 20 pound stren on it and catch fish better.
Posted By: Wildman of the navidad

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/14/17 01:55 AM

#10 kahle with live sunfish or bullhead it still amazes me the fish I've caught 3ft off the bank in a log jam 60_80# leader an a thill cigar float coolio
Posted By: Catfish-hunter

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/14/17 11:50 AM

If I'm channel cat fishing in water shallower than the length of my pole,it's a fixed cork. If fish are in 6-12',I might use a slip cork. I don't know why 1-4' deep you need to rig up a slip cork. Seems a waste of time. You want to see a bobber dance,use a pencil style fixed and weight it proper. You can get same thrill with a lot less work.
Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/15/17 06:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Catfish-hunter
If I'm channel cat fishing in water shallower than the length of my pole,it's a fixed cork. If fish are in 6-12',I might use a slip cork. I don't know why 1-4' deep you need to rig up a slip cork. Seems a waste of time. You want to see a bobber dance,use a pencil style fixed and weight it proper. You can get same thrill with a lot less work.


This is true if you're fishing 5ft deep or less only........
Posted By: stubby77

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/15/17 01:47 PM

Love to see the cork disappear .
Posted By: HumanSeine

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/18/17 06:18 PM

Ok I want to respond to catfish hunter. There are areas on most north Texas lakes with acres of water that are 4 feet deep. I anchor on them and cast my slip corks all around my boat before moving my boat again. When the fish are in this shallow you can usually load your ice chest. Now I like using a slip cork if I am casting my rod because the cork is heavy and casts really well in the wind. Now if you had rather use a clip on bobber that is great also. I think it is just a matter of preference and makes not that much difference. Now I must say that CJ's bobbers are a difference maker . The CJ corks can be casted well directly into a wind. I really enjoy windy day fish catching. If you doubt the effectiveness of the CJ corks I recommend that you try them. They are large and heavy. I call it full contact catfishing. There is no finesse with this setup.
Posted By: HeavyLead

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/19/17 01:50 AM

When do you DFW guys expect to start slip corking? I usually start trying when the shad are up in the rocks. So maybe another month?
Posted By: CoC Angler

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/20/17 07:20 AM

Originally Posted By: HeavyLead
When do you DFW guys expect to start slip corking? I usually start trying when the shad are up in the rocks. So maybe another month?


I'm going to give it a try tomorrow actually.
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/20/17 11:59 AM

It's time here on my local lake, and the channels will be up in 1 to 5' along the willows and rocks.
I use a pencil cork and a small split shot above a 5 circle hook with cut shad.
I fish down a bank and cover a lot of water using my trolling motor, and cast just as you would using a top water lure fishing for bass. If I get several hits down a bank, I'll turn around or stop and work the area over.
It's a blast and very similar to top water bass fishing, as a lot of times the aggressive channels will nail the bait just after or shortly after it hits the water.
When the cork goes under, I don't jerk the rod but just start reeling, and with the circle hook that is all you have to do, fish on!
One of my most enjoyable ways to fish the slip cork.
Posted By: HeavyLead

Re: Slip cork time!?! - 03/22/17 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: CoC Angler
Originally Posted By: HeavyLead
When do you DFW guys expect to start slip corking? I usually start trying when the shad are up in the rocks. So maybe another month?


I'm going to give it a try tomorrow actually.


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